Re: [mythtv-users] I'm getting real pissed off about IVTV

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Wednesday 25 Jan 2006 17:02, Richard Bronosky wrote:

Hi Richard,

Looks like , to me, you have a half dead board... I've had two so far, DOA, 
The first has been confirmend DOA and the 2nd is going back tomorrow, let's 
hope the 3rd works...I guess that they will test with a windows box.

The test you did below is all that I did in the end, the clue is when you set 
the freq/channel on /dev/video0 or 1, it either says "signal found" or 
doesn't respond with anything...

Steve

> I tried:
> cat /dev/video0 > ~/tmp/video0.mpg
> [wait 5 seconds, ctrl-c]
> cat /dev/video1 > ~/tmp/video1.mpg
> [wait 5 seconds, ctrl-c]
>
> video0.mpg contained a viewable file that was 5.7meg
> video1.mpg was 0 bytes
>
> Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> > Richard Bronosky wrote:
> >> I don't own a windows box.  Is there a method of testing it in Linux
> >> that I have not done?  (see my logs link in the "situation" page below.)
> >
> > Not that I know of short of cat /dev/video1 > test.mpg to dump the
> > output of the card to a file.  It is impossible to say without having
> > other evidence of the card functioning in another system whether you are
> > experiencing a hardware problem.  It is not uncommon from the messages
> > I've read to have a PVR-500 with one tuner defective.  I've also seen
> > reports where loading the Windows drivers/firmware on a Windows system
> > resets the card to a working state.  I think this is usually indicative
> > of a firmware issue but either way, testing in another OS should give
> > you the confirmation of whether the card works at all.
> >
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mac 7200

[Stephen Atkins]

Carl Fongheiser wrote:
> On 1/21/06, *Stephen Atkins* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> It does have SCSI but only the 50 pin version.  It also has a RJ45
> network but like the posts say its only 10BaseT.  Whats funny is
> it has
> svideo/audio in and audio out.  I've never been able to find an app in
> Mac to get these to work but I was hoping to use them with a myth
> box.
> Like I say if there is anyone in the Calgary region that wants a old
> 7200/120 I think I can part with it no questions/money needed.
>
>
>
> Are you sure it's a 7200?  I've never seen a 7200 with S-Video.  That 
> sounds more like a 7500.
Actually its a 7600/120.  Can believe I missed that.  Still no good for 
a front end.

Stephen
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mac 7200

[Stephen Atkins]

Carl Fongheiser wrote:
> On 1/21/06, *Joseph A. Caputo* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>
> Maybe not even.  IIRC, those older Macs (a) had built-in Ethernet, but
> need a proprietary AAUI -> RJ45 adapter/transceiver, and (b) it's only
> 10baseT not 10/100.  So only slightly faster (realistically) than
> 802.11b.
>
> Try http://www.lowendmac.com/  for info & ideas.
>
>
> The 7200 has a 10BaseT RJ45 connector as well as the AAUI connector.  
> Still not fast, but you can easily pop in a PCI 100BaseTX card.  If 
> you run something other than MacOS, you probably can use any cheap 
> card you might have around.
It does have SCSI but only the 50 pin version.  It also has a RJ45 
network but like the posts say its only 10BaseT.  Whats funny is it has 
svideo/audio in and audio out.  I've never been able to find an app in 
Mac to get these to work but I was hoping to use them with a myth box.  
Like I say if there is anyone in the Calgary region that wants a old 
7200/120 I think I can part with it no questions/money needed.

Stephen
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[mythtv-users] mythfilldatabase authentication rejected

[Stephen Sassman]

Hi everyone. I'm trying to get this thing set up. I can login to the
zap2it website with the username and password that I entered into video
sources part of mythtv-setup. Also can log into mysql with username
mythtv and password mythtv. The mythconverg database appears to be
setup (lots of tables in there). But when I try to run mythfilldatabase
it says authentication rejected. I tried with mythbackend running and
with it stopped. Also tried with and without firewall. Tried it as user
mythtv and as root with same results. Here is the output:

$ mythfilldatabase
Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the
authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based
authentication failed
2006-01-18 14:16:53.605 New DB connection, total: 1
2006-01-18 14:16:53.636 New DB connection, total: 2
Refreshing Tomorrow's data
2006-01-18 14:16:53.660 New DB DataDirect connection
Retrieving datadirect data...
Grabbing data for Wed Jan 18 2006 offset 1
>From : Thu Jan 19 05:00:00 2006 To : Fri Jan 20 05:00:00 2006 (UTC)
--14:16:53--  http://datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com/tvlistings/xtvdService
   => `-'
Resolving datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com... 206.18.98.160
Connecting to datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com|206.18.98.160|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized
Connecting to datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com|206.18.98.160|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized
Authorization failed.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Using svhs inputs on hauppauge 150

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Friday 13 Jan 2006 21:36, Michael T. Dean wrote:
Thanks mike,

I'll do a search on the archives...

> Stephen Kitchener wrote:
> >Hi List,
> >
> >Please excuse me if this is a totally stupid idea and I apologise in
> > advance.
> >
> >What I am trying to do is to use mythtv to record from the svhs sockets on
> > a video tape player into mythtv and then from there to DVD.
> >
> >I have mythtv setup and working well, and it's being used, so this is an
> >additional task for it.
> >
> >Is this possible, might I be better off just using ivtvctl, ivtv-tune and
> >friends to do this ???
> >
> >I have looked for info, and have tried to set up mythtv to accept input
> > from the tape player, but, unless I have missed the point, I don't seem
> > to have succeeded...
>
> You need to create a channel for the VCR (I made one numbered 999) and
> then do a manual recording (i.e. create a new manual recording
> rule--don't use the "r" button in LiveTV).  Search the lists for (many,
> many) posts explaining how.  (Note, though, that you don't need to
> create guide data as at least one of the posts claims.)
>
> Mike
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[mythtv-users] Using svhs inputs on hauppauge 150

[Stephen Kitchener]

Hi List,

Please excuse me if this is a totally stupid idea and I apologise in advance.

What I am trying to do is to use mythtv to record from the svhs sockets on a 
video tape player into mythtv and then from there to DVD.

I have mythtv setup and working well, and it's being used, so this is an 
additional task for it.

Is this possible, might I be better off just using ivtvctl, ivtv-tune and 
friends to do this ???

I have looked for info, and have tried to set up mythtv to accept input from 
the tape player, but, unless I have missed the point, I don't seem to have 
succeeded...

Any help appreciated. 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Questionaire: What do you have your case powerbutton do?

[Stephen Dolan]

>
> I'd like to know how you turn your myth box on using the IR remote
> though.  I'm using the IR receiver that came with my Hauppauge Nova-t
> and IFAIK I can't use this for powering up [I'd be happy to be proved
> wrong].

I'd also be very interested in knowing how this is done. Currently, my
power button kills mythfrontend and since its a combined FE/BE and the
BE is set to shutdown if idle, this will also shut the machine down
assuming nothing is recording and there are no flagging jobs running.
I use nvram-wakeup then to automatically power the machine on when it
needs to record the next show
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Re: [mythtv-users] replaceing a Hauppage 150 with a pvr 500

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Monday 09 Jan 2006 09:23, Marius Schrecker wrote:
> > On Saturday 07 Jan 2006 15:25, Chris wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Chris.
> >
> > RMA ready and waiting..
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >> > When I did
> >> >
> >> > ivtv-tune -f759.25 -d/dev/video0
> >> > All I got was this.
> >> >
> >> > /dev/video0: 759.250 MHz
> >> >
> >> > But when I tried the other device.
> >> > ivtv-tune -f759.25 -d/dev/video1
> >> >
> >> > I got,
> >> >
> >> > /dev/video1: 759.250 MHz  (Signal Detected)
> >>
> >> I had the same problem as you
> >>
> >> my card was broken, i got a new card and everything worked.
> >>
> >> from the few channels i did got a signal the quality was _bad_
> >>
> >> good tuner:
> >> http://www.siggynet.org/video2-net5.png
> >>
> >> bad tuner:
> >> http://www.siggynet.org/video1-net5.png
> >>
> >>
> >> good luch
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> > (Just in case you or other don't know, there's only one antenna socket
> >> > for the board that supplies signal to each TV tuner...)
> >> >
> >> > I am wondering if this indicates that there is a hardware fault and
> >>
> >> it's
> >>
> >> > one of a batch that someother poster talked about on the list...
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
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> There have been so many posts about bad quality on the PVR-500 recently,
> and mine isn't great either, although the difference between tuners is
> nothing like as bad as the examples posted.
>
> Also, to confuse matters, I've noticed quality differences between
> different firmware and ivtv driver versions. Way back last summer, when I
> was wondering whether to go for a 500 or a 350, I posted to the list and
> someone replied that the picture quality from the 500 was (if anything)
> better than the 350. This certainly doesn't szeem to be the current
> consensus.
>
> A couple of questions:
>
> On a "good" card, should there be any noticable difference in picture
> quality between tuners?
>
> Has anyone identified a batch/production run number for the "bad" cards?
>
> Is there any output I can use to ascertain signal strength for any given
> tuned channel? I'm still VERY disappointed at the signal quality being so
> very much worse from the 150 than directly to my cheap Viewpia lcd TV,
> this is true even if I degrade the signal to the TV by running it through
> a splitter which I remove when viewing through the 500.
>
> The only sure-fire way I can think of finding out what's going on is to
> take the whole setup to a TV repair workshop and feed it with a signal of
> known strength.
>
> Any ideas/views, before I throw away the 500 as being completely unusable?
>
> Marius

Hi Marius,

As I understand it the signal is simply split between the two tuners, so there 
should be no difference between them

Anyway, you asked for some details as to if there are any identification as to 
what are the potentiality 'duff' boards, from mine I get,

On the reverse side to the tuners.
Bar code Sticker has 1705 8055378 on it
Part no Sticker has 5188-1035
On the Front.
The tuners are PAL B/G-I-D/K-SECAM 23559 rev D491

I'm Running ivtv 0.4.1 if that makes any difference...and the firmware from 
pvr_2.0.24.23035.zip

My 500 is going back tomorrow for replacement (10/1/06), so if there is any 
more info required, shout now...

Steve

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Re: [mythtv-users] replaceing a Hauppage 150 with a pvr 500

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Saturday 07 Jan 2006 15:25, Chris wrote:

Thanks Chris.

RMA ready and waiting..

Steve

> > When I did
> >
> > ivtv-tune -f759.25 -d/dev/video0
> > All I got was this.
> >
> > /dev/video0: 759.250 MHz
> >
> > But when I tried the other device.
> > ivtv-tune -f759.25 -d/dev/video1
> >
> > I got,
> >
> > /dev/video1: 759.250 MHz  (Signal Detected)
>
> I had the same problem as you
>
> my card was broken, i got a new card and everything worked.
>
> from the few channels i did got a signal the quality was _bad_
>
> good tuner:
> http://www.siggynet.org/video2-net5.png
>
> bad tuner:
> http://www.siggynet.org/video1-net5.png
>
>
> good luch
>
> Chris
>
> > (Just in case you or other don't know, there's only one antenna socket
> > for the board that supplies signal to each TV tuner...)
> >
> > I am wondering if this indicates that there is a hardware fault and it's
> > one of a batch that someother poster talked about on the list...
> >
> > Regards
> >
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Re: [mythtv-users] replaceing a Hauppage 150 with a pvr 500

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Saturday 07 Jan 2006 14:24, Stephen Kitchener wrote:


I missed something that might be important,

When I did 

ivtv-tune -f759.25 -d/dev/video0
 
All I got was this.

/dev/video0: 759.250 MHz

But when I tried the other device.
ivtv-tune -f759.25 -d/dev/video1
 

I got,

/dev/video1: 759.250 MHz  (Signal Detected)

(Just in case you or other don't know, there's only one antenna socket for the 
board that supplies signal to each TV tuner...)

I am wondering if this indicates that there is a hardware fault and it's one 
of a batch that someother poster talked about on the list...

Regards

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] replaceing a Hauppage 150 with a pvr 500

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Saturday 07 Jan 2006 11:15, weeny wrote:
>  Stephen Kitchener:
> > I did try as you suggested and the output is below..
> >
> > ivtvctl -a gives
>
> Did you try ivtvctl -a with the device option each for the
> corresponding /dev/video devices? I think per default it only checks the
> first one...

OK I did the command for each /dev/video0 and /dev/video1

/dev/video0

ioctl IVTV_IOC_G_CODEC ok
Codec parameters
aspect  : 2
audio   : 0x00e9
bframes : 3
bitrate_mode: 0
bitrate : 450
bitrate_peak: 600
dnr_mode: 0
dnr_spatial : 0
dnr_temporal: 8
dnr_type: 0
framerate   : 1
framespergop: 12
gop_closure : 1
pulldown: 0
stream_type : 0
ioctl VIDIOC_G_FMT ok
Type   : Video Capture
Width  : 720
Height : 576
ioctl VIDIOC_QUERYCAP ok
Driver name   : ivtv
Card type : WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1)
Bus info  : :02:08.0
Driver version: 1025
Capabilities  : 0x01070051
ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMINPUT
Input   : 0
Name: Tuner
Type: 0x0001
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x00FF ( PAL )
Status  : 0

Input   : 1
Name: Composite 0
Type: 0x0002
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM )
Status  : 0

Input   : 2
Name: Composite 1
Type: 0x0002
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM )
Status  : 0

Input   : 3
Name: S-Video 0
Type: 0x0002
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM )
Status  : 0

Input   : 4
Name: S-Video 1
Type: 0x0002
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM )
Status  : 0
ioctl VIDIOC_G_INPUT ok
Video input = 0
ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMOUTPUT
ioctl VIDIOC_G_OUTPUT failed: Invalid argument
ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMAUDIO
Input   : 0
Name: Tuner Audio In

Input   : 1
Name: Audio Line 1

Input   : 2
Name: Audio Line 2

Input   : 3
Name: Audio Line 3

Input   : 4
Name: Audio Line 4
ioctl VIDIOC_G_AUDIO ok
Audio input = 0: Tuner Audio In
ioctl VIDIOC_G_FREQUENCY ok
Frequency = 12148
ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMSTD
index   : 0
ID  : 0x3000
Name: NTSC
Frame period: 1001/3
Frame lines : 525

index   : 1
ID  : 0x00FF
Name: PAL
Frame period: 1/25
Frame lines : 625

index   : 2
ID  : 0x007F
Name: SECAM
Frame period: 1/25
Frame lines : 625
ioctl VIDIOC_G_STD ok
Video standard = 0x00ff
ioctl: VIDIOC_QUERYCTRL
Brightness = 383
Contrast = 63
Saturation = 63
Hue = 0
Volume = 58880
Mute = 1

/dev/video1

ioctl IVTV_IOC_G_CODEC ok
Codec parameters
aspect  : 2
audio   : 0x00e9
bframes : 3
bitrate_mode: 0
bitrate : 800
bitrate_peak: 960
dnr_mode: 0
dnr_spatial : 0
dnr_temporal: 8
dnr_type: 0
framerate   : 0
framespergop: 12
gop_closure : 1
pulldown: 0
stream_type : 14
ioctl VIDIOC_G_FMT ok
Type   : Video Capture
Width  : 720
Height : 576
ioctl VIDIOC_QUERYCAP ok
Driver name   : ivtv
Card type : WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2)
Bus info  : :02:09.0
Driver version: 1025
Capabilities  : 0x01030051
ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMINPUT
Input   : 0
Name: Tuner
Type: 0x0001
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x00FF ( PAL )
Status  : 0

Input   : 1
Name: Composite 0
Type: 0x0002
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM )
Status  : 0

Input   : 2
Name: Composite 1
Type: 0x0002
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM )
Status  : 0

Input   : 3
Name: S-Video 0
Type: 0x0002
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM )
Status  : 0

Input   : 4
Name: S-Video 1
Type: 0x0002
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM )
Status  : 0
ioctl VIDIOC_G_INPUT ok
Video input = 0
ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMOUTPUT
ioctl VIDIOC_G_OUTPUT failed: Invalid argument
ioct

[mythtv-users] ivtv 0.4.1 - mythtv 18.1 and hauppauge PVR 500

[Stephen Kitchener]

Hi All,

I am having problems getting the two tuners on the Hauppauge 500 pvr working, 
I can only get the second one recording a channel.

Anyway, I was wonding if the renumbering of the inputs, as described in the 
changelog of ivtv 0.4.1 eg..

- Input numbering for PVR 150/500 cards have changed, this will
  require users to reconfigure apps that use these cards.
  0="Tuner" 1="Composite 0" 2="Composite 1" 3="S-Video 0" 4="S-Video 1"

Would effect the setup on mythtv as it only shows "tuner" and not "tuner0" as 
I have seen in various How-To's that I have seen around.

Has anyone been successful with a PVR 500, ivtv 0.4.1 and mythtv 18.1 


Thanks

Steve
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[mythtv-users] Audio breakup problems on channel 60 with PVR-150MCE

[Stephen Trier]

My MythTV installation works great, except for channel 60.  On that
channel only, the audio is broken up very rapidly.  It's getting chopped
up, dropping out and coming back a few times a second.  It is a lot
like what multipath fading sounds like on FM radio when it's caused by a
passing airplane or other moving object.  The video on channel 60 looks
fine; it's just the audio that is messed up.

I'm using two PVR-150MCE tuners, Gentoo, MythTV 0.18.1-r1, and
ivtv-0.4.0-r2, on AMD64 (Asus A8V Deluxe motherboard).  My source is
NTSC cable TV in the US, and channel 60 is the USA network for me.

The problem is identical on both tuners.  The problem shows up in
mplayer and in MythTV, and within MythTV both in recordings and live TV.
Going directly from the cable line to the tuner vs. putting the line
through a splitter first makes no difference.

When I connect the cable feed directly to the TV, channel 60 sounds OK.
(It sounds slightly noisier/fuzzier than other channels, but I have to
listen very careful to discern it.)

I played with Myth's fine tuning setting without any luck.

No other channels have the problem.

Any ideas?

      Stephen

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Re: [mythtv-users] replaceing a Hauppage 150 with a pvr 500

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Friday 06 Jan 2006 19:59, weeny wrote:
> Am Freitag 06 Januar 2006 18:26 schrieb Stephen Kitchener:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I must be doing something wrong that is really basic, but I have tried to
> > replace my Hauppauge 150 with a  Hauppauge pvr 500 and all I get is noise
> > on the signal, ie no picture...
> >
> > When I put the 150 back all is well...(After I delete the setup for the
> > 500 and reset for the 150)
> >
> > When I replaced the TV card I re-ran the setup program for mythtv and
> > deleted the card details, I added the card twice, once each for each of
> > the tuners and selected video0 for the first and video1 for the second, I
> > then allocated "tuner" for each of the separate parts of the card.
> >
> > Did I missed anything, do I need to re-populate the database ?, I did it
> > anyway but there was no change...
> >
> > I suppose that I could have a dead card, but hopefully not..
> >
> >
> > Any help appreciated.
> >
> > Steve K
>
> Hi Steve,

Hi Weeny,

I did some more tests, it appears that I can record on the 2nd tuner and get 
no signal at all on the first...

I did try as you suggested and the output is below..

ivtvctl -a gives
ioctl IVTV_IOC_G_CODEC ok
Codec parameters
aspect  : 2
audio   : 0x00e9
bframes : 3
bitrate_mode: 0
bitrate : 450
bitrate_peak: 600
dnr_mode: 0
dnr_spatial : 0
dnr_temporal: 8
dnr_type: 0
framerate   : 1
framespergop: 12
gop_closure : 1
pulldown: 0
stream_type : 0
ioctl VIDIOC_G_FMT ok
Type   : Video Capture
Width  : 720
Height : 576
ioctl VIDIOC_QUERYCAP ok
Driver name   : ivtv
Card type : WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1)
Bus info  : :02:08.0
Driver version: 1025
Capabilities  : 0x01070051
ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMINPUT
Input   : 0
Name: Tuner
Type: 0x0001
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x00FF ( PAL )
Status  : 0

Input   : 1
Name: Composite 0
Type: 0x0002
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM )
Status  : 0

Input   : 2
Name: Composite 1
Type: 0x0002
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM )
Status  : 0

Input   : 3
Name: S-Video 0
Type: 0x0002
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM )
Status  : 0

Input   : 4
Name: S-Video 1
Type: 0x0002
Audioset: 0x0003
Tuner   : 0x
Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM )
Status  : 0
ioctl VIDIOC_G_INPUT ok
Video input = 0
ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMOUTPUT
ioctl VIDIOC_G_OUTPUT failed: Invalid argument
ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMAUDIO
Input   : 0
Name: Tuner Audio In

Input   : 1
Name: Audio Line 1

Input   : 2
Name: Audio Line 2

Input   : 3
Name: Audio Line 3

Input   : 4
Name: Audio Line 4
ioctl VIDIOC_G_AUDIO ok
Audio input = 0: Tuner Audio In
ioctl VIDIOC_G_FREQUENCY ok
Frequency = 12148
ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMSTD
index   : 0
ID  : 0x3000
Name: NTSC
Frame period: 1001/3
Frame lines : 525

index   : 1
ID  : 0x00FF
Name: PAL
Frame period: 1/25
Frame lines : 625

index   : 2
ID  : 0x007F
Name: SECAM
Frame period: 1/25
Frame lines : 625
ioctl VIDIOC_G_STD ok
Video standard = 0x00ff
ioctl: VIDIOC_QUERYCTRL
Brightness = 383
Contrast = 63
Saturation = 63
Hue = 0
Volume = 58880
Mute = 1

Dosn't this look like there is only one tuner being found.but the messages 
in dmesg seem to conflict with this, dmesg (Part of) is below...

ivtv:   START INIT IVTV 
ivtv:  version 0.4.1 (tagged release) loading
ivtv:  Linux version: 2.6.12-12mdk 686 gcc-4.0
ivtv:  In case of problems please include the debug info between
ivtv:  the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
ivtv:  any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 150 card (cx23416 based)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:08.0[A] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
tveeprom: Second (radio) tuner idx 101
tveeprom: ivtv version
tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 23659, rev = D491, serial# = 8055378
tveeprom: tuner = Philips FQ1216AME MK4 (idx = 91, typ

[mythtv-users] replaceing a Hauppage 150 with a pvr 500

[Stephen Kitchener]

Hi,

I must be doing something wrong that is really basic, but I have tried to 
replace my Hauppauge 150 with a  Hauppauge pvr 500 and all I get is noise on 
the signal, ie no picture...

When I put the 150 back all is well...(After I delete the setup for the 500 
and reset for the 150)

When I replaced the TV card I re-ran the setup program for mythtv and deleted 
the card details, I added the card twice, once each for each of the tuners 
and selected video0 for the first and video1 for the second, I then allocated 
"tuner" for each of the separate parts of the card.

Did I missed anything, do I need to re-populate the database ?, I did it 
anyway but there was no change...

I suppose that I could have a dead card, but hopefully not..


Any help appreciated.

Steve K
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Re: [mythtv-users] access denied for remote frontend

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Thursday 05 Jan 2006 16:54, Eric Sharkey wrote:
> Thanks for the reply, Steve.
>
> > On Thursday 05 Jan 2006 16:16, Eric Sharkey wrote:
> > You need to change mysql's startup file...
> >
> > /etc/sysconfig/mysqld
>
> I assume you mean /etc/mysql/my.cnf.

Nope, that's where the RPM put the file.

>
> > eg...
> >
> > # (oe) Remove --skip-networking to enable network access from
> > # non local clients. Access from localhost will still work.
> > # MYSQLD_OPTIONS="--skip-networking"
> > MYSQLD_OPTIONS=""
> >
> > # (oe) set TMPDIR and TMP environment variables
> > TMPDIR="${datadir}/.tmp"
> > TMP="${TMPDIR}"
>
> How does this help?

It dosn't...sorry I misread your email - 
>
> As I said, I have no problems connecting to the mysql server
> from the remote frontend using the mysql command line client.
> The mysql server is configured for remote network access and it
> works.  The problem is not a skip-networking setting or anything
> like that.  If it was, I couldn't connect at all.
>
> I have tmpdir set to /tmp.  I've not read anything that suggests
> that this setting would be important, provided that /tmp has
> sufficent space.
>
> The problem seems to be that the mythfrontend client is not sending
> the right password or not sending it in the right way.  I can't
> figure out why.
>
> Eric
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Re: [mythtv-users] access denied for remote frontend

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Thursday 05 Jan 2006 16:16, Eric Sharkey wrote:
You need to change mysql's startup file...

/etc/sysconfig/mysqld

eg...

# (oe) Remove --skip-networking to enable network access from
# non local clients. Access from localhost will still work.
# MYSQLD_OPTIONS="--skip-networking"
MYSQLD_OPTIONS=""

# (oe) set TMPDIR and TMP environment variables
TMPDIR="${datadir}/.tmp"
TMP="${TMPDIR}"

Steve

> I'm trying to connect a remote frontend to a working mythtv box and I
> keep getting Access Denied errors when the frontend tries to connect
> to the mysql server.
>
> I've read the docs and googled this to find all of the common problems
> and none of them seem to fit my situation.
>
> The mysql server is up and correctly configured for remote access.
> If on the remote frontend box I run:
>
>   mysql -h mythtered -u mythtv -p mythconverg
>
> Then I get connected correctly and can see all of the tables, yet when
> mythfrontend tries to connect to the same host using the same dbname,
> username, and password it gets access denied.
>
> I snarfed the mysql network traffic and looked at the difference
> between the mysql command line client and the mythfrontend traffic and
> noticed that mysql sends a packet that looks like:
>
> 0x:  4508 0080 7379 4000 4006 019a c0a8 2201  [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]@.".
> 0x0010:  c0a8 220b a157 0cea 6049 546a f15c f05f  .."..W..`ITj.\._
> 0x0020:  8018 05b4 b4ad  0101 080a 60a6 271b  `.'.
> 0x0030:  9ebf dbb9 4800 0001 8da6 0300  0001  H...
> 0x0040:  0800         
> 0x0050:      6d79 7468 7476 0014  mythtv..
> 0x0060:  c18a 400a ccf7 be84 35aa df4f dd48 f934  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 0x0070:  f16d 8e76 6d79 7468 636f 6e76 6572 6700  .m.vmythconverg.
>
> while mythfrontend looks like:
>
> 0x:  4508 0058 b25c 4000 4006 c2de c0a8 2201  [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]@.".
> 0x0010:  c0a8 220b a11b 0cea 5f6d 528a f03e 2a70  .."._mR..>*p
> 0x0020:  8018 05b4 2aa8  0101 080a 60a5 e0e1  *...`...
> 0x0030:  9ebf 9582 2000 0001 8d20  006d 7974  .myt
> 0x0040:  6874 7600 5f5c 4952 555e 525d 006d 7974  htv._\IRU^R].myt
> 0x0050:  6863 6f6e 7665 7267  hconverg
>
> It looks like both of these packets end with username, obscured password,
> and database name but, but the mythfrontend is using fewer characters
> for the password, so it must be using some sort of different password
> obfuscation algorithm, or a different password.
>
> Any idea what could cause this?
>
> Both machines are Debian Sid running the same mythtv 0.18.1 packages.
>
> Eric
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Thursday 22 December 2005 02:01, Greg Estabrooks wrote:
> > Been out all day, so I've only just caught up on this thread. My God! You
> > "'mericuns" don't half make things complicated!!!
>
>  *Cough* I'm Canadian, but some of our channels are American based ;)

They might as well put "But I'm Canadian!" on my flaming headstone. I never 
fail to mistake Canadians for Americans. Sorry, but I'm crap at accents, and 
to be fair there weren't really many clues that you're from north of the 
border as you were only talking about us icons :-)

>  Plus I've been doing some tests against a few American friends channels
> lists.
>
> > 3. Attempt a (fuzzy?) match against the callsign of a channel.
>
>  I'd definately see this as a big one as it is likely to find most
> channels, at least in North America, maybe falling back to a name match if
> nothing is found.
>
> > 4. Add a "Processing web pages, please wait..." message.
>
>  You might also consider putting a "Item 13 of 26" type marker next to the
> name or callsign being checked.  If only to tell a user just how much more
> they have to go through :)
>
>  One thing I also found was that hitting s to skip was a bit of a pain when
> you are comparing several hundred channels. maybe enter/blank moves on
> to the next comparison? Even if a user accidentily hits enter more than
> they ment they can just run the app again.

Both good suggestions. Added to my list.

> > situations. i.e. the command line parameter is a comma seperated list of
> > master lists that are all loaded at once. Any thoughts guys, as this is a
> > feature you need, not me?
>
>  That sounds good to me.
>
> > I can just see me trying to figure this little lot out with a belly full
> > of turkey and "several" beers inside of me 8-P
>
>  Sounds like a good time to me...well the turkey anyway :)
>
>  One thing I tripped across tonight is something I completely forgot about.
> There is a callsignnetworkmap and networkiconmap table in the mythconverg
> database That can be populated with mappings of callsign to URL so that
> mythfilldatabase will try to download the icons for you for any callsign
> you have in your channel list. I think a little script to take the data
> I've gathered and import it into those tables would make it much easier for
> most as myth will pull in the icons for them. And of course the more
> comprehensive that data is the less people will have to do manually.
>
>  I see this tool as a great way to come up with that data. Might be
> more work for me, but should make it much easier for others.

Okay, so the callsign in the channel table is looked up in the 
callsignnetworkmap table, and then the network is looked up in the 
networkiconmap table. Two areas of concern:
1. What would network be set to? Something similar to the name field in the 
channel table???

2. I don't know if or how mythtv utilises these tables, so I'm a bit wary of 
changing them. Are these dominant or recessive over the icon field in the 
channel table? Are these tables used to update the icon field?

I'm not sure if you're asking for a feature added to mythalsig, or just 
pointing out how mythalsig is useful for obtaining the raw data to get 
inserted into these tables.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Thursday 22 December 2005 01:38, Stephen Boddy wrote:
> Been out all day, so I've only just caught up on this thread. My God! You
> "'mericuns" don't half make things complicated!!!
>
> I'll be away from my main system for the next week, but I'll take the guts
> with me on the lappyb and see if I can't make some progress. I'm going to
> try and list the outstanding requests here:
>
> 1. Seperate out the country/state code specific parts. I think it is
> additionally a good idea to move the country/state specific settings to
> here too. Then an command line option will be added to pass a country
> code/state field to the program. These files will just be a python file
> containing variables that get imported. It's very easy, and I don't have to
> go making up config file formats ;-) If not passed program will default to
> a country/state code defined in main the program file, as it does now.
>
> 2. Add a command line option to restrict to the channels of a particular
> source id. If not passed program behaves as it does now.
>
> 3. Attempt a (fuzzy?) match against the callsign of a channel.
>
> 4. Add a "Processing web pages, please wait..." message.
>
> 5. I can sort of see a way to build composites to deal with us(-il|--in)
> situations. i.e. the command line parameter is a comma seperated list of
> master lists that are all loaded at once. Any thoughts guys, as this is a
> feature you need, not me?
>
> 6. Fix the program from wigging out (line 200) when the country code does
> not exist. This will probably be substantially changed anyway, going to
> seperate file master lists/settings.

Just thought of another:

7. Ability to restrict channels processed from country/state composite. At the 
moment if you want to just change entry 79/80, but it already has an entry, 
then autospeed won't get you to it quickly. Maybe another fuzzy match, with a 
configurable number of results?

Tack on any additions here, but for my sanity keep the full list, and try to 
maintain a single clean list. Cheers guys :-)

> I can just see me trying to figure this little lot out with a belly full of
> turkey and "several" beers inside of me 8-P
>
> While we're piling on ideas, does anyone have anymore before I lose my nice
> threaded, sorted mail lists over the next week?
>
> Just a note on perl that Steve A. made. Might be easier for you, but I
> simply never liked the syntax :-) If it wasn't in python, it wouldn't have
> gotten written. Don't mean to come off a zealot, but I find python very
> quick and easy to read and write, very quick and easy to debug (except when
> it is I myself that is the bug ;-) and very featureful (batteries included)
> meaning I don't have to fart around tracking down libraries, installing
> them, then figuring out how to use them. They're included, and very well
> documented. And finally, when I come back to a piece of python after an
> extended period, I grok what it's doing and how as I read it. With perl I
> just see gibberish.
>
> I would seriously recommend taking the hour or so to work through the
> tutorial. It is staggeringly easy to become productive with python in a
> very short period of time.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 16:26, Greg Estabrooks wrote:
> > "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/logo/tv/ww/wset_abc13_lynchburg.jpg"; and the
> > station name "WSET 13 Lynchburg" but doesn't find eityher.
>
>  Ok, this was my fault. I  was pointing at "us" and not at the various
> states as I assumed "us" would include all of them.   I've wipped all of my
> existing icons, and modified my source to to also store the URL in my
> channel table of the icon it found for easily generating a list of them
> when I'm done.
>
>  I also got channel dumps from a few friends with dishnet and have filled
> in several hundred of those channels. So if we use external "master files"
> , say with a default file and a command parameter override to point to a
> specific file then it should be system to pull the callsign name and URL
> out  and generate the files.   I've got about 80% of the icons done from
> the dishnet 110w satellite as well as almost all of the stations available
> on my local Cable ISP.

Been out all day, so I've only just caught up on this thread. My God! You 
"'mericuns" don't half make things complicated!!!

I'll be away from my main system for the next week, but I'll take the guts 
with me on the lappyb and see if I can't make some progress. I'm going to try 
and list the outstanding requests here:

1. Seperate out the country/state code specific parts. I think it is 
additionally a good idea to move the country/state specific settings to here 
too. Then an command line option will be added to pass a country code/state 
field to the program. These files will just be a python file containing 
variables that get imported. It's very easy, and I don't have to go making up 
config file formats ;-) If not passed program will default to a country/state 
code defined in main the program file, as it does now.

2. Add a command line option to restrict to the channels of a particular 
source id. If not passed program behaves as it does now.

3. Attempt a (fuzzy?) match against the callsign of a channel.

4. Add a "Processing web pages, please wait..." message.

5. I can sort of see a way to build composites to deal with us(-il|--in) 
situations. i.e. the command line parameter is a comma seperated list of 
master lists that are all loaded at once. Any thoughts guys, as this is a 
feature you need, not me?

6. Fix the program from wigging out (line 200) when the country code does not 
exist. This will probably be substantially changed anyway, going to seperate 
file master lists/settings.

I can just see me trying to figure this little lot out with a belly full of 
turkey and "several" beers inside of me 8-P

While we're piling on ideas, does anyone have anymore before I lose my nice 
threaded, sorted mail lists over the next week?

Just a note on perl that Steve A. made. Might be easier for you, but I simply 
never liked the syntax :-) If it wasn't in python, it wouldn't have gotten 
written. Don't mean to come off a zealot, but I find python very quick and 
easy to read and write, very quick and easy to debug (except when it is I 
myself that is the bug ;-) and very featureful (batteries included) meaning I 
don't have to fart around tracking down libraries, installing them, then 
figuring out how to use them. They're included, and very well documented. And 
finally, when I come back to a piece of python after an extended period, I 
grok what it's doing and how as I read it. With perl I just see gibberish.

I would seriously recommend taking the hour or so to work through the 
tutorial. It is staggeringly easy to become productive with python in a very 
short period of time.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 17:16, Matt wrote:
> Channel "AMC" is currently set to "/home/mythtv/.mythtv/channels/amc.jpg"
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "mythalsig.py", line 200, in ?
>     assign_icons(channel_list, icon_dict)
>   File "mythalsig.py", line 127, in assign_icons
>     if master_list[lyngsat_country_code].has_key(channel_set[0]):
> KeyError: 'us-in'

Ah, I see. Yes, that needs a one line fix, prob:
if master_list.has_key(lyngsat_country_code) and  
master_list[lyngsat_country_code].has_key(channel_set[0]):
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 02:36, Matt wrote:
> Sure, I can comment out everything.  What exactly do you want me to do
> and I'll get it for you.

The bit I'm interested in is the bit that should look similar to the following 
that is printed to the console after the program errors out. This will tell 
me exactly which line is causing the problem for you. You shouldn't have to 
do anything special for python to print this this, it's the normal output 
when a program causes an exception. Just cut and paste it to the list.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in ?
  File "", line 2, in my_func
TypeError: exceptions must be classes, instances, or strings (deprecated), not 
NoneType

Like I said, this is a quick hack, and is likely to be fragile. :-)
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 01:53, Matt wrote:
> I was able to get it working by adding the following to the master list:
>
>},
> 'us': {
>
> },
> 'us-il': {
>
> },
> 'us-in': {
>
> },
> }
>
> If you are going to use a country code, it MUST be in the master list
> or it will error out.

Actually Matt, I don't suppose you've got a copy of the stack trace that 
should have been produced. I think I know where this might have happened, but 
the trace would save me a bit of experimentation time.

Cheers
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 01:53, Matt wrote:
> I was able to get it working by adding the following to the master list:
>
>},
> 'us': {
>
> },
> 'us-il': {
>
> },
> 'us-in': {
>
> },
> }
>
> If you are going to use a country code, it MUST be in the master list
> or it will error out.

Okay, another wee buggette to sort tomorrow. Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Tuesday 20 December 2005 23:38, Greg Estabrooks wrote:
> > As I'm sure you've sussed out I've included the master list in the main
> > file as a dictionary (or hash in perl parlance)
>
>  I see that.   I just figured that by using external files the script
> wouldn't grow to outrageous sizes plus the user could replace/update the
> master file without having to replace the script itself.

OK, I'll look at that tomorrow some time.

> > "search term" is tested against for a best match. There is a threshold
> > and a max of the 10 best matches.
>
>  I imagine for most of the channels that would be fine.
>
>  One thing I've noticed is that I have some channels with different channel
> numbers but identical "names". You might consider checking the list for
> duplicate names and only pass through a name once.   For example I've
> got several channels named "PPV"  and have to go through and skip through
> each one at a time :)

That should be a sort and uniq on the list from the db, then possibly a tweak 
to the SQL statement that updates the db. Again, a job for tomorrow.

> > > station name "WSET 13 Lynchburg" but doesn't find eityher.
> >
> > Strange, that name should be a good match against the base filename of
> > the icon on LS?!?
> >
> > Does it give you incorrect possibilities? Or is it an empty list? All
> > entries get converted to upper case for matching purposes.
>
>  It returns incorrect options. In fact I've run accross several instances
> of it now . For example the Channel Name "KAFT" doesn't find a match with
> the station "KAFT PBS Fayetteville" with a url/filename of
> http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/icon/tv/kk/kaft_pbs_fayetteville.gif

If I'm understanding you, The channel name in the db is only 4 characters, but 
there is 21 in the LS stripped name (kaft_pbs_fayetteville) I think because 
of the low character count in the name, other names stripped names have "more 
in common". i.e. funkay_trippin would have more in common because there are 
less incorrect letters.

Hopefully neither of us is mixing up name and callsign in the channel table. 
If instead of "KAFT" the channel name was "KAFT PBS Fayetteville" then you'd 
have an almost perfect match.

I think the fuzzy function is probably really dumb, and I'm glorifying it with 
a name it doesn't deserve. All I can suggest is that the first time you set 
these with the "f" option and enter a tougher match like "fayetteville". If 
you set them up as defaults, then you won't have to worry in future... Once I 
change that master_list to suit at least :-)

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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 00:08, Matt wrote:
> On 12/20/05, Greg Estabrooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Maybe it's just me, but I'm not seeing anything.  I've downloaded it,
> > > set the variables, and when I type python mythalsig.py nothing
> > > happens, it just sits there.
> >
> >  I assume you editted the script to point it at your database,
> > icon storage locations and set your country info ?
>
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Okay, cut and paste you settings section. Another idea is to try and run 
ethereal. So; Are you seeing traffic to the machine with the db? I'm assuming 
you're running the script on a different machine. If you are, did you allow 
remote machine access to the db with the grant commands from the MythTV docs? 
Are you seeing traffic to Lyng-Sat website? It can take several seconds, even 
with the less profligate UK logos. Only once all this is done will you see a 
prompt.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Tuesday 20 December 2005 22:45, Greg Estabrooks wrote:
> > I like the idea of the master list, and I'll have a think of the best
> > way. Probably have to be seperated by country in case there are
> > equivalent channel names with different logos.
>
>  Yeah that's basically what I was thinking.  A Plain text format with
> something like
>
> "TEXT" = filename(or URL)
>
>  Where TEXT could be a callsign or a full station name.
>
>   For example :
>
> "WSET" = file1.jpg
> "WSET 13 CityName" = file1.jpg
> "ATV" = file2.jpg
> "ATV Halifax" = http://www.blah.com/logos/file3.jpg

As I'm sure you've sussed out I've included the master list in the main file 
as a dictionary (or hash in perl parlance)

> > getting exact matches. If people have assigned there own names it's
> > likely to be somewhat ineffective.
>
>  I'm not very familiar with Python

I'm not bad with it, and as you can see it's pretty good for hacking up 
versatile little scripts.

>  but are the matches done on the 
> filename, the station name  or both?  I've had many incidents where I
> didn't get a fuzzy match but where the callsign I was matching against
> should have easily matched either and they aren't found. And yeah I've
> updated the lyngsat_page_count value as well as the country code.

Okay, the name field in the channel table is used as the "search term". A list 
of all the available URL's for icons for a country is built. This is 
basename'd (discards the folder) and splitext'd (to lose the suffix) and a 
list of these stripped down icon filenames is created. This list is what the 
"search term" is tested against for a best match. There is a threshold and a 
max of the 10 best matches.

> For example I'm setting up a box for my uncle which will have a channel
> with the callsign WSET  which would match both the file name
> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/logo/tv/ww/wset_abc13_lynchburg.jpg"; and the
> station name "WSET 13 Lynchburg" but doesn't find eityher.

Strange, that name should be a good match against the base filename of the 
icon on LS?!?

Does it give you incorrect possibilities? Or is it an empty list? All entries 
get converted to upper case for matching purposes.

Two options. Manuall add an override in the master list. It's the entry in the 
channel.name field to the full URL off of LS. Look at the UK one and you'll 
get the idea.

Otherwise if you need further help I'll have to send one with some basic debug 
lines to figure out what the problem is.

> > BTW, what's the policy on attachments to the mail list? Don't want to be
> > on the receiving end of an Isaac lashing <:-(
>
>  Can't say I've seen any complaints about small attachments of small
> scripts or patches.  Larger stuff should of course be put up on a webserver
> with a link to it.

Good to know I won't need my flame retardent clothing ;-)
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Tuesday 20 December 2005 22:50, Greg Estabrooks wrote:
> > I'll give it a few days, and if all is well I'll see if it can be added
> > to contrib or something.
>
>  I don't see that as a problem :) If it works well I'll add it.
>
> > I've compressed it so Isaac doesn't come after me with a big stick :-)
>
>  I'll host it for you if you like for now.
>
>  http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/mythalsig.py.bz2
>
>  One suggestion though would be a flag/parameter to specify at runtime
> a sourceid for those who have more than one.

Thanks for that. I don't have any reason to run a web server here, and it 
would be a bit OTT to run one for a 2k file :-)

Not sure I understand the need for a source id flag?!? Unless you're trying to 
narrow down the number of channels processed in one hit, the source id 
wouldn't come into it AFAICT. But then I do have a pretty limited 30 or so 
channels...
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Tuesday 20 December 2005 21:33, Stephen Boddy wrote:
> Okay Greg, I've got the bones of a master list set up. The first time you
> run the script, uncomment the last pprint statement. This gives you the
> fundamentals of the master list for your provider (assuming constant
> names). Still needs a little massaging, but it's not hard.
>
> The question is when to use the master list. Now I don't want it to
> download all icons every time, So I suggest using the master only if there
> is 'none' in that field. This way, those of us with hundreds of channels
> don't hammer the LS server everytime we run the script. If you want to do a
> full fresh icon retrieval, set all your icon fields to none.
>
> To get around stepping through all assigned channels, I'm thinking of an
> option to skip all entries that have something assigned, be it from the db,
> or allocated by the master list (i.e. only stop when icon is 'none' and no
> entry exists in the master list). That should speed up entry once the
> master lists start getting fuller.

OK, last one I promise ;-)

Here you go with a working master list and autospeed feature. If the entries 
have been created enter "a" and it will auto fill-in all the entries it has a 
master entry for without waiting for user input. It skips over existing 
entries. It only pauses on 'none' entries. You could even dummy that by 
having a blank icon and adding a master entry for it.

I'll give it a few days, and if all is well I'll see if it can be added to 
contrib or something.

I've compressed it so Isaac doesn't come after me with a big stick :-)
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Tuesday 20 December 2005 20:57, Stephen Boddy wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 December 2005 20:21, Greg Estabrooks wrote:
> > > UK. Let me know if you have probs (or even better, fixes) and I'll help
> > > out where I can. It's not commented, and probably fragile in places,
> > > but it works
> >
> >  I just tried this out and the first thing I noticed was that the loop to
> > go through the list of channels/icons doesn't actually skip the rest if
> > you hit "." as you are resetting the end variable before the while loop
> > starts again. Moving the "end=0" to just before the for loop worked for
> > me.
> >
> >  Now if only we can get the name matches to find more of them. For me
> > it takes a while with a few hundred channels :)  Or better
> > come up with a master list(s) for each country that could be distributed
> > with it? Maybe check the master list for a match, if no match then try
> > the fuzzy match?
>
> Rats. I was play around with the flow since I had that bit working. I was
> so focused on testing the fuzzy stuff that I never tested that again. It's
> actually exit=0 that needs to move, but thanks for catching that one. I
> also changed the text for the f option. The program replaces the string
> that is used for the fuzzy match, and the prompt now better reflects that.
>
> I like the idea of the master list, and I'll have a think of the best way.
> Probably have to be seperated by country in case there are equivalent
> channel names with different logos.
>
> In my case my channel names come from a DVB scan, so the chances are good
> for getting exact matches. If people have assigned there own names it's
> likely to be somewhat ineffective.
>
> The only other concern I have is having read the Disclaimer on their site,
> I'm not too sure of the right or wrong of using their icons in the first
> place. I know the wikipedia has a lot of the UK channel logos, but from
> what I've seen they would be harder to make use of, as the pages wouldn't
> be so easy to parse.
>
> BTW, what's the policy on attachments to the mail list? Don't want to be on
> the receiving end of an Isaac lashing <:-(

Okay Greg, I've got the bones of a master list set up. The first time you run 
the script, uncomment the last pprint statement. This gives you the 
fundamentals of the master list for your provider (assuming constant names). 
Still needs a little massaging, but it's not hard.

The question is when to use the master list. Now I don't want it to download 
all icons every time, So I suggest using the master only if there is 'none' 
in that field. This way, those of us with hundreds of channels don't hammer 
the LS server everytime we run the script. If you want to do a full fresh 
icon retrieval, set all your icon fields to none.

To get around stepping through all assigned channels, I'm thinking of an 
option to skip all entries that have something assigned, be it from the db, 
or allocated by the master list (i.e. only stop when icon is 'none' and no 
entry exists in the master list). That should speed up entry once the master 
lists start getting fuller.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Tuesday 20 December 2005 20:21, Greg Estabrooks wrote:
> > UK. Let me know if you have probs (or even better, fixes) and I'll help
> > out where I can. It's not commented, and probably fragile in places, but
> > it works
>
>  I just tried this out and the first thing I noticed was that the loop to
> go through the list of channels/icons doesn't actually skip the rest if you
> hit "." as you are resetting the end variable before the while loop starts
> again. Moving the "end=0" to just before the for loop worked for me.
>
>  Now if only we can get the name matches to find more of them. For me
> it takes a while with a few hundred channels :)  Or better
> come up with a master list(s) for each country that could be distributed
> with it? Maybe check the master list for a match, if no match then try the
> fuzzy match?

Rats. I was play around with the flow since I had that bit working. I was so 
focused on testing the fuzzy stuff that I never tested that again. It's 
actually exit=0 that needs to move, but thanks for catching that one. I also 
changed the text for the f option. The program replaces the string that is 
used for the fuzzy match, and the prompt now better reflects that.

I like the idea of the master list, and I'll have a think of the best way. 
Probably have to be seperated by country in case there are equivalent channel 
names with different logos.

In my case my channel names come from a DVB scan, so the chances are good for 
getting exact matches. If people have assigned there own names it's likely to 
be somewhat ineffective.

The only other concern I have is having read the Disclaimer on their site, I'm 
not too sure of the right or wrong of using their icons in the first place. I 
know the wikipedia has a lot of the UK channel logos, but from what I've seen 
they would be harder to make use of, as the pages wouldn't be so easy to 
parse.

BTW, what's the policy on attachments to the mail list? Don't want to be on 
the receiving end of an Isaac lashing <:-(
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Monday 19 December 2005 23:26, Stephen Boddy wrote:
> On Monday 19 December 2005 23:02, James Oltman wrote:
> > I wish I could do that!  I am relatively to fully useless when it comes
> > to writing any kind of software.  Given enough time, I am sure I could
> > READ some code, but write it, definately not.  Haha.
> >
> > Jim
>
> It's OK, I was just pulling your leg.
>
> I was thinking about a python program (coz I'm good at python, lousy at C)
> that would fuzzy string match the channel name against the web site icons,
> retrieve them and amend the db. Should be doable.

Okay, find the first cut attached. You need python and the python-mysql libs. 
Go through the settings at the top, and change them for your situation. Then 
just run the program. It's all self explanatory. I've only tested it for the 
UK. Let me know if you have probs (or even better, fixes) and I'll help out 
where I can. It's not commented, and probably fragile in places, but it works 
for me!

Oooh my first contribution back to Myth. It may be small, but I've got a warm 
fuzzy feeling ;-)

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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Tuesday 20 December 2005 01:01, Brad Fuller wrote:
> James Oltman wrote:
> > Forgive the stupidity, but how can I import those new icons into my
> > setup?
>
> Can the icons be shown when changing channels? I have them in the EPG,
> but I thought that I also saw them in my older version of mythtv while
> changing channels.
>
I think that rather depends on the OSD theme. Try some of the others...
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Monday 19 December 2005 23:31, James Oltman wrote:
> I just looked through my DB and couldn't see any existing channel mappings.
> There was a table for what looked like icons, but there was no data in
> there for me to compare with.

In the "mythconverg" database, in the "channel" table, there is a field 
"icon". That has to have the full path to the icon. 
i.e. /home/mythtv/.mythtv/icons/bbc1.gif
All of mine are gifs btw. I don't know if other formats are supported.

And in response to Phill, it is easier in the channel editor, but tedious and 
slow. I just find knoda quicker for doing these kind of manual interventions.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Monday 19 December 2005 23:02, James Oltman wrote:
> I wish I could do that!  I am relatively to fully useless when it comes to
> writing any kind of software.  Given enough time, I am sure I could READ
> some code, but write it, definately not.  Haha.
>
> Jim

It's OK, I was just pulling your leg.

I was thinking about a python program (coz I'm good at python, lousy at C) 
that would fuzzy string match the channel name against the web site icons, 
retrieve them and amend the db. Should be doable.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Video card recommendation for 24" LCD (1920x1200)

[Stephen Boddy]

On Monday 19 December 2005 08:48, Andy Leung wrote:
> Now I could go with a higher end Nvidia card. But I've
> also read that newer Nvidia cards have dropped support
> for Xvideo hardware scaling (do I need that?). Also
> I'd prefer to have a fanless card if at all possible.
> Any card you'd recommend for my situation? Thanks a
> lot.

I'd love to see a quote on that. It sounds like rubbish to me. My myth box has 
a 6600GT in it, and it's not doing xv scaling in software.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Monday 19 December 2005 19:23, James Oltman wrote:
> Forgive the stupidity, but how can I import those new icons into my setup?

Save them locally, then use mythtv-setup to add the full path to the channels 
configured.

Personally I find it easier to edit the entry in the db using something like 
knoda.

If you want to go about writing a script for semi-automating this, that'd be 
nice ;-)
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[mythtv-users] Choppy video

[Stephen Kirkby]

Hi,

I've been running myth fine for about a year now, but have recently 
wired up the spdif out to my new amp.  All works well on almost all 
programmes, but I've encountered one or two that give choppy jerky 
video, until I select the second sound track at which point things play 
ok again.


Does anyone have any ideas what could cause this, or how to resolve it?

I tried playing the suspect video in mplayer and it played perfectly.  
So then I tried demuxing and remuxing the video (using projectx and 
mplex) and playing back through myth - it was better than before but 
still choppy.


I'm using alsa if this gives anyone clues.

Thanks

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] Is it possible to have two channels appear on one channel??

[Stephen Dolan]

On 12/8/05, Niels Dybdahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I think you could implement it in two different ways:
>
>  1. Create a script which takes the output from your xmltv grabber and joins
> the two channels to one.
>
>  2. Place them as separate channels, but with the same frequency and write a
> script which deletes all programme entries for the time frames where the
> channel is not being broadcastet. This could probably be written as a
> general script, which takes three parameters: Channel id, start time and end
> time. Then run the script on each channel immediately after
> mythfilldatabase.
>
>  Niels Dybdahl
>
Hmmm, option 2 sounds interesting (mainly because I'm not sure how I'd
do option 1!) So with this option, if I understand you, I'd still see
two channels on my schedule, but one would have no data prior to the
changeover time, and the other would have no data after it.

It would certainly be better than what I have at the moment anyhow.

Thanks for the input!
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[mythtv-users] Is it possible to have two channels appear on one channel??

[Stephen Dolan]

It might sound like a strange question, but my cable provider (NTL
Ireland) shows Nickelodeon on a channel up to about 5pm and then shows
Paramount Comedy on the same channel for the rest of the evening!

I was wondering if there is any way, to get mythtv to merge the XML
data for these two channels and show Nickelodeon data before a certain
time and Paramount data after ?

Cheers!
Stephen
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Re: [mythtv-users] Nvidia 8174 driver released

[Stephen Williams]

On 12/7/05, David Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Funny - tried it and had TERRIBLE playback (Jittery playback). Not using
> XVMC, just XV on a AMD64 with 5700.interested to see if anyone else
> tried it?
>
> For now - I've moved back to the 7676 build (which works flawlessly on my
> setup).
>
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Campbell
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:20 AM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: [mythtv-users] Nvidia 8174 driver released
>
> Haven't tried it yet, but for those so inclined...
>
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8174.html
>
> -Ross
>
>
> Linux Display Driver - IA32
> Version: 1.0-8174
> Operating System: Linux IA32
> Release Date: December 5, 2005
>
>  Release Highlights
> Fixed GeForce 7800 GTX clocking problem that affected 3D performance.
> Added support for NVIDIA SLI. Please see the README for details.
> Added a new utility 'nvidia-xconfig', which is a commandline tool for
> updating X configuration files.
> Added support for new GeForce 6100, GeForce 6150 and GeForce 7800 GTX 512.
> Added manpages for 'nvidia-xconfig', 'nvidia-settings', and
> 'nvidia-installer'.
> Made UseEdidFreqs "on" by default; the NVIDIA X driver will use the
> valid HorizSync and VertRefresh frequency ranges from the EDID
> whenever possible.
> Added support for Stereo Digital Flat Panels such as the SeeReal and
> Sharp3D DFPs.
> Added HTML version of the README.
> Added support for static Rotation; see the "Rotate" X config option in
> the README.
> Improved stability on 64-bit Linux 2.6 kernels.
> Fixed driver installation when SELinux is enabled.
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Would be nice to know if they've fixed interlaced Xv output, I don't
think this worked since release 6629 (over a year ago).
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Re: [mythtv-users] Strange MythBackend troubles

[Stephen Norris]

On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 22:51 -0600, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> Do you often leave your frontend on the Watch Recordings screen for long 
> periods of time?
> 
> Kevin

I see this happen if I leave the frontend on that screen...

I also suspect log rotation - I find sometimes the backend is logging
into the already rotated log, and eventually the backend seems to seize
up.

    Stephen

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RE: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au No detailed listings for 3/12/2005

[Stephen Norris]

On Sat, 2005-12-03 at 07:38 +1100, David Maher wrote:
> I'm also using the Michael Immir Smith grabber, Ill just put it down as one 
> of those strange things that happen from time to time. I was worried that it 
> mightr have been a precursor to another listings download bug, but I've been 
> through the listings for the next week and they are all OK.
> The listings are for the melbourne channels btw

I'm not sure if this is related, but I'm not getting any new data since
the run on the 3rd - I have now got 5 days worth of data. The output
looks sensible, although I don't know what all the 'm's mean:

mythfilldatabase
2005-12-05 11:27:32.046 New DB connection, total: 1
2005-12-05 11:27:32.086 New DB connection, total: 2
2005-12-05 11:27:32.088 mythfilldatabase: Listings Download Started
- Start of XMLTV output -
2005-12-05 11:27:32.154 New DB connection, total: 3
grabing Sydney freesd for 7 days into /tmp/myth9VMrv8
starting 5 threads
loading queue
04122005 unchanged
05122005 unchanged
06122005 unchanged
07122005 unchanged
08122005 unchanged
09122005 unchanged
10122005 unchanged
11122005 unchanged
queue is complete...
all threads done, but wait there's more...
building xml structure
writing
 file
cleaning 7 days
done
-- End of XMLTV output --

Is anyone else seeing this? I'm using the version that has this last in
the change log:

# 18 Aug 2005
# Girkers
#  - change the cache directory to mythtv home directory
#  - Add SBS News & ABC2 for all relevant areas
#  - Modify the version number written to xml file
#  - Modified the messages to inform users that there is more to come
# 7 Nov 2005
# Girkers
#  - Patches to fix ninemsn using Javascript to hide data

Stephen

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Re: [mythtv-users] Gentoo n00b needing advice!

[stephen]

Yup - that's what I'm running.  Now if I can only figure out how to
get it to auto-login and startx automatically.


I'm using evilwm for a window manager on gentoo, and used some info from 
this site to get the autologin working:


http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue72/chung.html

There's probably an easier way, but this worked great for me.

This is the relevant portion of my /etc/inittab:

c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -n -l /usr/local/sbin/mythlogin 38400 tty1 
linux


And just for reference, here is my .xinitrc and .xsession (both have the 
same content):


===

# Merge X resources from ~/.Xdefaults
[ -f $HOME/.Xdefaults ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xdefaults

# Set the background and root cursor shape
xsetroot -solid \#400040
xsetroot -cursor_name top_left_arrow

# Start evilwm - snap to borders within 10 pixels
/usr/bin/evilwm -snap 6 -bw 0 &

/usr/X11R6/bin/xset s noblank &
/usr/X11R6/bin/xset s off &
/usr/X11R6/bin/xset dpms off &

exec mythfrontend

===

And my .bash_profile (to automatically start X):

===

# /etc/skel/.bash_profile

# This file is sourced by bash for login shells.  The following line
# runs your .bashrc and is recommended by the bash info pages.
[[ -f ~/.bashrc ]] && . ~/.bashrc

if [ $(tty) == /dev/tty1 ]; then
startx -- -dpi 100 # larger fonts for viewing on the tv
fi

===

Hope it helps,
Stephen

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Re: [mythtv-users] Commercial Flagging - whats it all about

[Stephen Dolan]

Have to agree with Ant. I'm in Ireland and I find that the commercial
detection works reasonably well on the Irish channels, but the UK
channels are very hit and miss - it never seems to properly detect the
commercials on Channel4 for some reason :-(
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Re: [mythtv-users] User job not running

[Stephen Atkins]

Chris Pinkham wrote:

I then setup a couple of recordings to run my Convert to iPod right 
after the commercial flaging.  The jog get queued (and shows up in 
mythweb) but never seems to run.  I don't see anything in my backend log 
about it even trying to run it.  Here is the info from the jobqueue table.
   



Run the following for jobqueue debug messages:

mythbackend -v jobqueue

See if that gives any indication, it should show you the queued job and
when it tries to run.



Comes back with "not allowed to run on this backend".  Funny its the 
only backend I have.  Now what?


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[mythtv-users] User job not running

[Stephen Atkins]

Hello all.  I found on the net (can't find the page anymore) a way to 
have your recordings transcoded into something that can play on a ipod 
video.  I've got the script /usr/local/bin/myth2ipod with rwxr_xr_x. 
I put the line in user job 1:

/usr/local/bin/myth2ipod %DIR% %FILE%
I then setup a couple of recordings to run my Convert to iPod right 
after the commercial flaging.  The jog get queued (and shows up in 
mythweb) but never seems to run.  I don't see anything in my backend log 
about it even trying to run it.  Here is the info from the jobqueue table.


id chanid starttime  inserttime type 
cmds flags status statustime hostname 
args comment
-  -  -  -  
---  ---    -  -  
---  ---  ---
2031003   2005-11-27 19:00:00.0  2005-11-27 20:00:03.0  256  
80 1  2005-11-29 08:18:10.0  
MythMasteriPod encode


Not sure where to go from here so I'm looking for some help.

Stephen
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[mythtv-users] Second Encoder Too Wide and Quiet

[Stephen Henderson]

When my second encoder card is used to record programs, the recordings 
have no sound and the video plays double-wide, yet cropped such as to 
present the proper aspect ratio, leaving only the left-hand side of the 
program material visible & stretched.


The first encoder card always works like a charm.

The issue first seemed to appear 6 months ago or so.  I disabled the 
card after frustration and recording a 'critical' Battlestar Galactica 
poorly... ouch.


In a burst of energy... and given the off-season of Galactica, I enabled 
the second card a few weeks ago, and it seemed to be working until I 
physically rebooted the backend server... at that point we were back to 
wide & quiet recordings on the second card.


Until today... somehow the problem is fixed.

I've left it enabled to spur me to debug the problem.

My guess is that the mythbackend is not altering the capture settings on 
the second card, leaving some bad power-on defaults in place.  I'm 
wondering if any readers have ideas surrounding mythbackend's behavior 
w.r.t. setting capture settings, problems that might be related, etc. 


Here's some info:
1. FC4 configured, per J. Wilson's HOWTO, via YUM.
2. Encoder 1 is a PVR350
3. Encoder 2 is a PVR250
4. I've diff'd the ivtvctl output for both cards during the wide & quiet 
era, and today during the double-fisted recording era.  This effort 
clearly illustrates that the capture settings are wrong when things are 
wide & quiet.
5. /var/log/mythtv/mythtbackend.log doesn't seem to be reporting any 
'couldn't set the settings' failure.  Also, the permissions of the 
/dev/video devices do not vary.

6. Mythbackend runs as root.

Thanks for reading! I'd appreciate any suggestions.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Attractive cases

[Stephen Boddy]

On Saturday 12 November 2005 22:11, Nathan Allen Stratton wrote:
> > >I think the advantages of the Silverstone cases is they have so
> > >many options when it comes to size, expansion, and looks. For
> > >example, Silverstone offers the only HT-style case I found that
> > >supports 3 full-height expansion slots (1xAGP, 2xPCI) in a low-profile
> > >design, such as the LC-11M, which is also very quiet.
> > >Not everyone wants those boxy-like Shuttle cases, or the
> > >full-size monster PC cases, like the Aristec HT-400 with 6+ expansion
> > >slots in their home-theater.
>
> Anyone know if you can drive the display of the SilverStone LC10M in
> linux?
>
> -nathan

Yes you can. I have the LC14M (same equipment, just a different fascia.) These 
cases come with an iMon VFD and IR remote. Check out Venky's site for all the 
info you need to get these to work under Linux.

http://venky.ws/projects/imon/

One thing to be aware of with this remote/receiver combo is that it uses a 
different IR protocol compared to pretty much anything else out there. RG6 
vs. RG5 or something like that. If I recall it means that the remote and 
receiver communicate much quicker. So for example, you can't replace the 
remote with a whizz bang back-lit universal. As the iMon remote is not 
back-lit, I consider it a bit of a dud remote for a home theatre PC.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Development update

[Stephen Boddy]

On Friday 28 October 2005 16:09, Jesse Guardiani wrote:
> Steve Adeff wrote:
> Is it still basically the same though?
> I've been reading bits and pieces about a new frontend daemon/frontend
> client architecture and other
> things like OpenGL UI rendering that seem to change Myth's core.
>
> Are these changes in the next gen, or the next next gen?

From the Trac tickets, it looks like the new and improved GUI has been put 
back to 0.20. This is a shame, as I have a friend who keeps banging on about 
how slick Apples Frontend interface is. (Yes I know it's apples and oranges, 
but it'd be nice for MythTV to be /that/ slick.) Mind, the same friend was 
around last night, and he was impressed with the MythTV interface, but the 
speed and functionality more than the visual impression, I think.

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[mythtv-users] Converting VGA ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to component

[Stephen Hocking]

Hi all,

I have an InFocus X1 projector, which in addition to handling HDTV &
TV formats also does VGA, up to 1024x768. Now when switching from an
ordinary video source (connected via S-Video) via the home theatre amp
to the computer, one has to switch both the amp & the projector over
to the new source. I'm currently considering the various home theatre
amps that upconvert all video sources to component video. I'm thinking
of connecting the PC's video via the amp in this case, and wondered if
anyone had experiences with VGA->component cable convertors (I've not
been able to track down a local vendor with a component-out Nvidia
card). Any ideas?


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Re: [mythtv-users] Transcoding, mpeg-2, mpeg-4 ASP vs. AVC

[Stephen Boddy]

On Saturday 22 October 2005 16:47, Michael T. Dean wrote:
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/141559#141559
>
> Note the part that says:
>
> For now, if all you want to do is save space, just transcode to mpeg4
> with mythtv (keep in mind, it's optimized for encoding speed, not
> quality) ...

Damn, that doesn't sound good.

Looks like I need to stick with the original files, and either watch more TV, 
or start building one mother of a storage server!
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Re: [mythtv-users] Transcoding, mpeg-2, mpeg-4 ASP vs. AVC

[Stephen Boddy]

On Saturday 22 October 2005 17:20, Niels Dybdahl wrote:
> > 1. Should I be seeing a drop in quality when I lower the bitrate?
>
> Yes. Lower bitrates result in lower quality.
>

Probably didn't phrase that correctly. I meant that if I have a better 
compression codec, then should reducing the bitrate reduce the quality.

> > To illustrate: A 1.5 GB mpeg-2 recording, transcoded to mpeg-4 with a 2200
> > kilobits/sec has roughly the same filesize and quality as the original
> > mpeg-2.
>
> As the filesize is proportional with the datarate, this indicates that your
> original MPEG2 also was at 2200 kb/s, which is quite low for MPEG2 (I
> record with a PVR-250 at 4500 kb/s and transcode to 1400 kb/s), so the
> starting point for your compression is not very good.

Thinking on this, I never actually checked to ensure that the mpeg-2 stream 
was at 2200 kbps. It is just whatever the incoming DVB-T stream is. But I 
would have thought that regardless of the codec, the same length of content 
at the same bitrate will give a pretty similar filesize. If I have a more 
efficient codec, then surely I should be able to lower the bitrate without 
losing quality.

> > Lowering that to 1600 kbps with high quality and 4mv enc. reduces the
> > file size (prob. to about 70%) but the quality suffers quite badly.
>
> 1600 kbps should be enough for MPEG4, but it also depends upon the number
> of pixels. I do record at 480x576 pixels but as you are recording from
> DVB-T you are probably at 720x576, so you would need 2100 kbps to get the
> approx same quality as I have at 1400 kbps, because you have more pixels.
> Mythtranscoding has settings to choose a different resolution, but it does
> not seem to work on my system.
> Noise is poison for MPEG compression, so as long as you are compression new
> films you should be ok with a completely digital flow. Older film that from
> analog media will probably have more noise and need higher bitrates.

Yes, I suspect it is 720x576. Again, it boils down to an mpeg-2 of size x 
should be able to be reduced in size to y using the more efficient mpeg-4 
codec, without losing quality.

> > Background areas (like trees) that are fairly clear in the original become
> > smeared blurry blobs that pan in jerky little steps. Movements of
> > foreground
> > objects (i.e. a shoulder and head shot) result in a blocky pixelating
> > effect
> > as the face moves quickly, but then settles down once the movement stops.
>
> These are typical artifacts from MPEG4 encoding.
>
> 4. If not, what is the high-quality encoding for? Is it a two-pass vs.
>
> > one-pass?
>
> I do not think that mythtranscode can do two pass encoding, but I am not
> sure.
>
> I would keep the recordings at MPEG2 at 2200 kbps or check if mythtranscode
> can reduce the number of pixels. You might try to go as low as 400x288
> pixels, especially if you are watching on a CRT TV.

Unfortunately it's a big-ass DVI fed HiDef DLP Rear Projector. Losing res is 
not really an option. ;-)
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Re: [mythtv-users] Transcoding, mpeg-2, mpeg-4 ASP vs. AVC

[Stephen Boddy]

On Saturday 22 October 2005 04:33, Phill Edwards wrote:
> I'm recording with DVB-T cards (therefore MPEG2) and transcode to
> MPEG4 with great results.
>
> My transcode settings are:
> Video - Bitrate:2500, Max Quality:2, Min Quality:15, Max Quality diff
> bt frames:3, none of the other checkboxes ticked.
> Sound - MP3, Samplg Rate:32000, MP3 Quality:5.
>
> I think this is reducing the files to about 60% of the MPEG2 size.

Phil,

Well, I tried your settings. I did see a reduction in file size, which is 
strange as you use a bigger bitrate than I did. (2500 vs. 2200). I turned off 
the other settings including the "Scale bitrate for frame size". I still 
think I'm losing quality that I'd expect the more advanced codec to retain.

Are you scaling the video? And also, do you use playback filters of some form?

Just in case it makes a difference, I've got a very large screen, so I really 
notice artefacts.
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[mythtv-users] Transcoding, mpeg-2, mpeg-4 ASP vs. AVC

[Stephen Boddy]

I'm getting a little bit confused as to what MythTV is doing on the 
transcoding front.

I'm recording UK SD DVB-T mpeg2 streams. I'm struggling to keep up with the 
stuff I'm recording, so I'd like to transcode where possible.

I've got the system transcoding files, I know it is using the "From MPEG2" 
profile. (When I change the bitrate the transcoded filesize changes.)

I understood mpeg-4 ASP to require approx. half the bitrate / filesize that 
mpeg-2 does for an equivalent quality file. Then mpeg-4 AVC is even better, 
requiring perhaps a third what mpeg-2 does.

I tried adjusting the settings, but I'm seeing a significant drop in the 
quality, even with a modest reduction in bitrate.

From this I have a few questions for anyone willing to give it a shot.

1. Should I be seeing a drop in quality when I lower the bitrate? To 
illustrate: A 1.5 GB mpeg-2 recording, transcoded to mpeg-4 with a 2200 
kilobits/sec has roughly the same filesize and quality as the original 
mpeg-2. Lowering that to 1600 kbps with high quality and 4mv enc. reduces the 
file size (prob. to about 70%) but the quality suffers quite badly. 
Background areas (like trees) that are fairly clear in the original become 
smeared blurry blobs that pan in jerky little steps. Movements of foreground 
objects (i.e. a shoulder and head shot) result in a blocky pixelating effect 
as the face moves quickly, but then settles down once the movement stops.

2. So why am I not able to get better compression for the same quality when I 
transcode to mpeg-4?

3. Does the transcode process actually use the better AVC codec? I took a look 
at the details on the ffmpeg site (home of libavcodec) and according to: 
http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/ffmpeg-doc.html#SEC19 they don't appear to 
support H.264 which is essentially what AVC is.

4. If not, what is the high-quality encoding for? Is it a two-pass vs. 
one-pass?

Thanks in advance for any explanations.
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythbackend not starting on gentoo

[stephen]

Nick Rosier wrote:


On 10/20/05, Dirk grosse Osterhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Nick Rosier wrote:


On 10/20/05, Dirk grosse Osterhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hej,

I forgot to say that after upgrading mysql I had no longer a
/usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.12 (/usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.14 exists). I
created the symlink myself and received the errors I already reported.

Now I removed the symlink again and get the following output from
mythbackend (also after a recompile of mythtv):




QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded
QSqlDatabase: available drivers:
2005-10-20 12:15:28.424 New DB connection, total: 1
2005-10-20 12:15:28.425 Unable to connect to database!
2005-10-20 12:15:28.426 No error type from QSqlError?  Strange...
2005-10-20 12:15:28.426 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.


Any more ideas?



remove that link you created and run revdep-rebuild. it will check all
library dependencies and rebuild any builds that are missing some. you
can run it with the option -p (pretend) to check what it's going to
rebuild 1st.


Thanks for that idea. In fact the problem was with qt which libmysql
mythtv wanted to use for access to the database. Now it works.



After (major) upgrades it's allways a good thing to check dependencies
with revdep-rebuild.

N.


Another handy little check is equery (from gentoolkit):

$ equery d mysql

will show a list of packages that depend on mysql.  Sometimes 
revdep-rebuild doesn't pick things up for me ...


stephen

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Re: [mythtv-users] diskless backend?

[Stephen Boddy]

On Monday 10 October 2005 18:11, Sonni Nørløv wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a setup with a backend/frontend running on a diskless server in
> my living room, and a 24x7 server  running mysql and nfs, and the daily
> tv channel update.
>
> Main reason for this is setup is that I have no antenna at the 24x7
> server location, and did not want or needed the idle power consumption
> of the tuner card when not in use. Also I could then use the remote on
> the prv250 tuner.
>
> This setup has been running ok for over a year now, the main issue is
> that I have no mythweb on the 24x7 server unless the backend is running,
> which requires it to be booted.

Hmmm. Must admit that this is similar to my thoughts on a slightly odd 
frontend/backend configuration. I'm curious why you can't run MythWeb on your 
24x7 server though. I undestood the web pages and db updates are served by 
apache/php/mysql. Why does the backend need to running?

If the backend does have to be running, could you possibly turn the 
frontend/backend in the frontroom into a slave, then run a master backend on 
the 24x7 server without any local tuners?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Large-scale myth farm

[Stephen Boddy]

On Tuesday 04 October 2005 20:52, Robert Tsai wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 07:24:29PM +0100, Stephen Boddy wrote:
> > Just a quick note that, depending on your system and set-up, the
> > transcoding may take longer than you expect. I have an Athlon 64,
> > and the cool-n-quiet means that when idle it roughly halves the
> > processor speed. Niced processes (i.e. the transcoding) do not cause
> > the processor to ramp up to full speed. I found this out when I
> > niced the MythTV compile and wondered why it was taking so long.
>
> If you are using cpufreq:
>
>   http://lwn.net/Articles/106900/?format=printable
>
> The default value is "0". To change it:
>
>   # echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/ignore_nice
>
> This means that the CPU will run at full throttle even for "nice"d
> processes.

Nice to know for the future. Thanks Rob
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Large-scale myth farm

[Stephen Boddy]

Just a quick note that, depending on your system and set-up, the transcoding 
may take longer than you expect. I have an Athlon 64, and the cool-n-quiet 
means that when idle it roughly halves the processor speed. Niced processes 
(i.e. the transcoding) do not cause the processor to ramp up to full speed. I 
found this out when I niced the MythTV compile and wondered why it was taking 
so long.

On Monday 03 October 2005 18:06, Derek Meek wrote:
> one quad opteron system could easily commflag and transcode four at
> once - and probably capture at least one and display one at the same
> time
>
> trancoding is niced at 17 so if something like capture and/or display
> is going on it looses CPU to the more important process and simply
> takes longer to complete.
>
> Trancoding 640x480 29.97 fps RTJpeg .nuv to MPEG4 runs at about 1/2 to
> 1 hr of time for each 1hr of video when no other tasks are running on
> my Athlon XP 2500+ with 1GB of RAM.  my MPEG settings are something
> like 1200bps with all three settings recommended for internlaced and
> mp3 quality at like 6
>
> comm flagging happens in about 1/2 the time
>
> On 10/3/05, Illtud Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Rob Willett wrote:
> > > Intersting to see a UK government org taking an interest in MythTV.
> >
> > ...Welsh government org, if you please! We're doing this on
> > behalf of the National Screen & Sound Archive of Wales, who have
> > agreements with broadcasters about recording reference copies of
> > broadcast material pertaining to Wales.
> >
> > >>>UK DVB cards/receivers - which would you recommend?
> > >
> > > I persoanlly use the Nebula DVB card, though other people report
> > >
> >  > success with the Avermedia 771 card.
> >
> > Nebula have some linux pages on their website - can people
> > confirm that they're linux friendly?
> >
> > > You can setup the system to record the EPG information provided by the
> >
> > DVB
> >
> > > stream. This works pretty well, though only has a week in advance. I've
> >
> > never
> >
> > > used Subtitiles so can't say if they work.
> >
> > Anybody out there with experience of DVB subtitle capture on mythtv?
> > Does mythtv only do 'live' subtitle decoding from the stream as it
> > plays, or does it capture the subtitles to somewhere else (SMIL?
> > MPEG7?).
> >
> > > Mythtv does not support FM radio nor does it easily support DVB radio
> > > e.g.
> >
> > BBC 7
> >
> > > without a patch. This is because there is no video send with the audio.
> >
> > This is
> >
> > > a majot pain in the butt and I wish they would change MythTv to
> > > properly
> >
> > support
> >
> > > Radio.
> >
> > We'll need audio-only capture, either from an internal tuner or
> > a simple audio-in. We currently have an audio digitization
> > application, so it's not essential that we build this into Myth,
> > but it'd make sense to have it all in one. The BBC (I think
> > we very rarely record non-BBC radio) have some radio listings
> > on: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/
> >
> > > Since there are 30 or so channels you wou would need around 5-7 servers
> > > depending on the hardware specs.
> >
> > We'd only be recording some programmes. We've enough experience of
> > enterprise systems to build a resilient backend (though we'd have
> > to look at how we'd do failover on the master backend - the SPoF
> > of the system). How many quad opterons (Sun do the nice v40z)
> > would it take to transcode say four programmes simultaneously?
> > Could one server handle 4 DVB capture cards? What's the first
> > bottleneck people hit - the PCI bus? hard drive speed?
> >
> > --
> > Illtud Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Uwch Ddadansoddwr Systemau   Senior Systems Analyst
> > Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru  National Library of Wales
> > Yn siarad drosof fy hun, nid LlGC   -  Speaking personally, not for NLW
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording quality and nuvexport

[Stephen Atkins]

Chris Petersen wrote:
 > File is smaller because it gets reencoded (and if you chose to, the
commercials were removed).  Increasing the VBR would work, as well as 
turning down the quantisation level (smaller == better).


You *can* get ivtv recordings directly onto dvd if you demux/remux them, 
but I hear there are issues with ivtv (or the card, I don't know which) 
tossing in weird blank frames every once in awhile when something can't 
be encoded.  If you don't have any, the recording makes a great dvd, but 
if you do, then you end up with AV sync issues when playing back on 
some/most dvd players..  (I don't know how to do this.  I think that 
archiving to dvd-video is a waste of a dvd when I can fit 27 half-hour 
xvid episodes on a dvd and watch them with mythvideo)


Thanks for the info.  I would agree with the xvid but unfortunatly my 
mom only has a dvd player (and its old to boot) so I'm stuck with either 
(s)vcd or dvd.


Stephen
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[mythtv-users] Recording quality and nuvexport

[Stephen Atkins]

Just a quick question as I'm new to making DVD's from recorded programs.

I found on the net somewhere some setting for recording from a pvr250 
into dvd type format.  It records great and the file size is about 2.2G 
for every hour which is about what I expected.  If I try to use 
dvdauthor it gives me all kinds of errors about the VOB format.  No big 
deal I'll just use nuvexport with the dvd option (I want to get rid of 
the commercials anyways).  The file that nuvexport spits out is only 950 
Megs.  I'm using all the defaults since I'm not familure with dvd that 
much.  I'm wondering why the file is less than half the size as the 
original?  Should I increase the VBR and will it make much difference in 
the final quality that much.  Or should I just be happy with the smaller 
file and put more on a single dvd?


Thanks
Stephen
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Re: [mythtv-users] help..mythbackend.."failed to bind port"

[Stephen Boddy]

On Monday 26 September 2005 16:54, Greg Woods wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 08:51 -0700, Nada De nada wrote:
> >  I run the "netstat -l -n
> >
> > | grep 6543" to see if something else was using the
> >
> > port and I got this message
> >
> > tcp   00 0.0.0.0:6543 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
>
> Try running "lsof | grep -w 6543" to find which process is listening on
> that port. I'll lay odds you already have a mythbackend process running.
>
> --Greg
or pass the -p option to the netstat command for the PID & process name.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mounting two hard drives to single mounting point

[Stephen Boddy]

On Friday 23 September 2005 22:24, Tony Godshall wrote:
> According to Jim Reith,
>
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I'm not sure if this has been asked before or if its even possible,
> > >but is there any way to mount two HD's to a single mounting point in
> > >Linux?  I just added a second HD to my mythbox and was hoping there
> > >might be a way for /video to point to both of them.  Thanks.
> > >
> > >Azmat
> >
> > Search for LVM for how to create a multiple disk logical volume
>
> Also search for "union mounts", a bleeding edge feature in
> the 2.6 kernel.

That would not be appropriatefor this use case. The unionfs stacks the disks, 
and would fill up the first one available with write access, and never 
actually touch the "lower" disk. LVM or RAID 0 is the way to go for disk 
concatenation, though he would be better off to get a third drive, and RAID 5 
them. This would give him the smallest drives capacity * 2, with resilience 
if one disk went bad.

Funnily enough I have been reading up on the unionfs with the idea that a set 
of network booting diskless clients would all use a single read-only nfs 
served OS, with a machine specific read-write filesystem stacked on top. That 
way you maintain one system instead of 3 or 4. Marry this up to a backend, 
and you have a single centralized backend and server, then you can hook a new 
frontend into the network, tell it to network boot, and hey presto, another 
frontend!
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: geforce 5200 and cables

[Stephen Atkins]

Kevin Kuphal wrote:


Neil Cronin wrote:


I'm currently using the svideo-out on the 5200 to the svideo-in on the
tv, but there is way too much interference.  I see about 100 grey
lines running from the top right to the bottom left of the screen. 
I've tried various svideo cables (high quality and low quality

cables), but the interference is always there to one degree or
another.  The case fans on the computer are directly besides the agp
slot, and when I turn off the fans the interference goes away
completely.  Hooking up the computer to a monitor displays zero
interference with the fans turned on.
 

Is it possible to move your case fans?  Does the interference decrease 
as you move them further from your card?  Do you really need those 
fans on to provide adequate cooling to your case?
There are always other cooling options (bay mounted coolers, etc) that 
you could use that would work and depending on your situation you 
might not need the fans at all.  Even my smallest case frontend 
doesn't require anything more than the CPU fan...


I also have a FX5200 and it doesn't have a fan on it.  I did put a fan 
beside it because I noticed that it ran really hot (a fan that fits into 
a pci slot).  I am also running a svideo cable from the card to tv 
(actually VCR) and the cable length is 6'.  The one thing I did do was 
spend a bit more ($15.00 CAD) for it and I don't have any problems.  I 
do wonder sometimes if the quality of the cable makes a difference but I 
just can't seem to buy the cheapest.  I'm attaching my xf86config for my 
5200 below just in case thats the problem.  Just so you know I'm using 
the 6629 version from nvidia.


Stephen

Section "Device"
   ### Available Driver options are:-
   ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
   ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
   ### [arg]: arg optional
   Option "DigitalVibrance""85"# 
   #Option "NoFlip" # []
   #Option "Dac8Bit"# []
   #Option "NoLogo" "False" # []
   #Option "UBB"# []
   #Option "Stereo" # 
   #Option "SWcursor"   # []
   #Option "HWcursor"   # []
   #Option "VideoKey"   # 
   Option "NvAGP"  "3"# 
   #Option "IgnoreEDID" # []
   #Option "NoDDC"  # []
   Option "ConnectedMonitor"   "tv"# 
   #Option "ConnectedMonitors"  # 
   Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"# 
   Option "TVOutFormat""SVIDEO"# 
   Option "RenderAccel""true"# []
   #Option "CursorShadow"   # []
   #Option "CursorShadowAlpha"  # 
   #Option "CursorShadowXOffset" # 
   #Option "CursorShadowYOffset" # 
   #Option "UseEdidFreqs"   # []
   #Option "FlatPanelProperties" # 
   #Option "TwinView"   # []
   #Option "TwinViewOrientation" # 
   #Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" # 
   #Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" # 
   #Option "MetaModes"  "720x480" # 
   #Option "UseInt10Module" # []
   #Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" # []
   #Option "NoRenderExtension"  # []
   Option "Overlay""True" # []
   #Option "CIOverlay"  "True" # []
   #Option "ForceEmulatedOverlay" "True" # []
   #Option "TransparentIndex"   # 
   #Option "OverlayDefaultVisual" "True" # []
   #Option "NvEmulate"  # 
   #Option "NoBandWidthTest"# []
   #Option "CustomEDID-CRT-0"   # 
   #Option "CustomEDID-CRT-1"   # 
   #Option "CustomEDID-DFP-0"   # 
   #Option "CustomEDID-DFP-1"   # 
   #Option "CustomEDID-TV-0"# 
   #Option "CustomEDID-TV-1"# 
   Option "TVOverScan" "0.72"# 
   #Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" # 
   #Option "MultisampleCompatibility" # []
   #Option "RegistryDwords" # 
   #Option "NoPowerConnectorCheck" # []
   #Option "AllowDFPStereo" # []
   #Option "XvMCUsesTextures"   # []
   #Option "HorizSync"  # 
   #Option "VertRefresh"# 
   Identifier  "Card0"
   Driver  "nvidia"
   VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
   BoardName   "Unknown Board"
   #BusID   "PCI:2:0:0"
   Option"alwaysshared"
EndSection

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Re: [mythtv-users] Choppy Video on Playback and LiveTV, not with mplayer

[Stephen Atkins]

Stephen Atkins wrote:


Nick wrote:


On 22/09/05, Lee Koloszyc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Hello all,

I am having a problem with mythtv 0.18.1 on Gentoo kernel 2.6.12-r10 on
both livetv and playing pre-recorded videos.
The play back is supper choppy and pauses about every 2 seconds.
Playing the same file directly through mplayer or gmplayer and it runs
as smooth as butter.
The recording works fine though even while recompiling X in the 
background.
I am running on a somewhat slow system: P3 800, VT6x4 mother board, 
512M

ram, Radeon 9250 256mb, PVR150, SBLive.
I am using the ATI binary drivers 8.16.20.
I also had the same problem with an Nvidia FX5200 card in the system,
but had to return the card because of less then desirable svideo 
output.


I've got the same problem with a PVR250 (not mce).  I've noticed in 
my myth logs that my system is trying to load the vidia sync but I 
don't know how to get it to stop trying.  Doing some searching on the 
net it seems the problem could be the OpenGL vsync option when 
compiling with Gentoo emerge.  I'm currently recompiling with a 
modified use flags of +xv -opengl mmx sse.  I'm also using a ati 
(radeon 7500) and I double checked my alsa drivers and they are up to 
date.  After this I'm not sure where to go.  I originally thought it 
might be IVTV but as it plays fine in mplayer I'm sure its a 
Myth/Xorg config problem.




Okay everyone I think the problem has been solved and I didn't need to 
recompile anything.  I don't know if this will work for Lee.  I change 
the video stream type from MPEG2-TS to MPEG2-PS and it started working 
properly.  As MPEG2-TS was the default when I first had things setup I 
didn't think about changing it.  What made me change it was I hit a site 
that gave some setting to record into DVD/SVCD/VCD with out having to 
transcode them.  I figured I'd give them a try as I didn't think I could 
screw this thing up any more.


Does someone know of a site that explains the differences between all of 
these settings and why you would want to use one over another (other 
than the problems I was having).


Stephen
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Re: [mythtv-users] Choppy Video on Playback and LiveTV, not with mplayer

[Stephen Atkins]

Nick wrote:


On 22/09/05, Lee Koloszyc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Hello all,

I am having a problem with mythtv 0.18.1 on Gentoo kernel 2.6.12-r10 on
both livetv and playing pre-recorded videos.
The play back is supper choppy and pauses about every 2 seconds.
Playing the same file directly through mplayer or gmplayer and it runs
as smooth as butter.
The recording works fine though even while recompiling X in the background.
I am running on a somewhat slow system: P3 800, VT6x4 mother board, 512M
ram, Radeon 9250 256mb, PVR150, SBLive.
I am using the ATI binary drivers 8.16.20.
I also had the same problem with an Nvidia FX5200 card in the system,
but had to return the card because of less then desirable svideo output.
   





I'd be worried why it's still trying to use an nvidia device when
you're now using an ATI card. It could likely be related to vsync also
- try using a different method (along with the correct driver) and so
if this improves things.

 


2005-09-22 12:32:11.993 nVidiaVideoSync: Could not open device
/dev/nvidia0, No such file or directory
2005-09-22 12:32:11.995 DRMVideoSync: VBlank ioctl did not work,
unimplemented in this driver?
2005-09-22 12:32:12.019 Using realtime priority.
2005-09-22 12:32:13.111 OpenGLVideoSync: GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info GLX_EXT_visual_rating GLX_EXT_import_context
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address GLX_ARB_multisample
2005-09-22 12:32:13.112 OpenGLVideoSync: GLX Video Sync extension not
present.
2005-09-22 12:32:13.118 Using audio as timebase
2005-09-22 12:32:13.119 Video timing method: RTC
2005-09-22 12:32:13.119 Refresh rate: 16579, frame interval: 33366
2005-09-22 12:32:13.119 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-09-22 12:32:13.253 prebuffer wait timed out..
2005-09-22 12:32:13.253 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-09-22 12:32:15.607 prebuffering pause
   



This buffering could be video or audio related (I'd recommend trying a
new version of ALSA instead of OSS if the video driver issue doesn't
help).
 



I've got the same problem with a PVR250 (not mce).  I've noticed in my 
myth logs that my system is trying to load the vidia sync but I don't 
know how to get it to stop trying.  Doing some searching on the net it 
seems the problem could be the OpenGL vsync option when compiling with 
Gentoo emerge.  I'm currently recompiling with a modified use flags of 
+xv -opengl mmx sse.  I'm also using a ati (radeon 7500) and I double 
checked my alsa drivers and they are up to date.  After this I'm not 
sure where to go.  I originally thought it might be IVTV but as it plays 
fine in mplayer I'm sure its a Myth/Xorg config problem.


What exactly is OpenGL vsync?

I'll keep everyone updated.

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Re: [mythtv-users] garbled audio

[Stephen Atkins]

Robert Denier wrote:


On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 20:54 -0600, Stephen Atkins wrote:
 


Hello again everyone.

So I thought I would try out the latest development sources 0.3.9 but no 
luck.  I then removed the PVR150MCE and still no luck.  What it sounds 
like is that the audio is actually out of sequence in that some audio 
packets(?) are out of order.
   



First all of all you need to be certain it is just a sound card issue,
so I suggest mp3's.  From what you said, it sounds like a sound card
issue and not anything to do with ivtv.
 

Thats part of the problem.  If I didn't run mythtv but used mplayer 
/dev/video0 (or 1) I thought it sounded fine.  But then I turned the 
volume way up and still heard the same thing.  I removed the PVR-150MCE 
hoping that that was it but nope.  Same thing.  Any way I was wondering 
if there was anything wrong with the kernel and based on what your 
saying I will have to try the vanilla sources.  Unfortunatly that won't 
be until at least Friday night so I'll post again after that.


Thanks for the help.

Stephen
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[mythtv-users] garbled audio

[Stephen Atkins]

Hello again everyone.

So I thought I would try out the latest development sources 0.3.9 but no 
luck.  I then removed the PVR150MCE and still no luck.  What it sounds 
like is that the audio is actually out of sequence in that some audio 
packets(?) are out of order.


Can some one tell me what kernel version and ivtv versions they are 
using?  I'm running a 2.6.12-gentoo-r10 with IVTV-0.3.9 and a rom of 
pvr_2.024.23035.


I had everything working before my HD blew up but it was running a 
2.4.25 kernel.


Thanks for the help.

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Re: [mythtv-users] frontend crash during UK dvb-t playback - only at adverts

[Stephen Williams]

On 9/20/05, Alan Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi all – I now have a stable dvb-t myth setup running on an up-to-date
> fedora core system, using the hauppage nova-t. only major problem thus
> far is:
> 
> watching certain UK channels, the frontend crashes when the commercial
> break begins – happens both with recordings and livetv. channels
> identified so far are channel4, e4/e4+1 and  abc1.
> 
> I suspect the reason is that these channels broadcast in a variety of
> aspect ratios, and switch over at the start  of the adverts, causing a
> break in the signal of some kind – i.e. main broadcast  is in 16:9,
> channel ident may be in low-res 4:3, followed by ad in 16:9. this
> often causes a broken keyframe (?) which the system struggles to
> recover from, manifesting itself in a green frame, a period of
> scrambled or non-existent audio, and quite often, the complete and
> sudden death of the frontend. rest of the programme and other channels
> are fine.
> 
> anyone else seeing  this behaviour or anything similar? let me know if
> there's any debug info that'd  help…

I've been running 0.18 since it was released on DVB-T in the UK with a
(version 909) Nova-T. It's quite normal for the adverts and the actual
programme to be in different aspect ratios, at most I see the odd
green frame / short garbled video but very rarely.

You don't say what version of Myth you're running. The current SVN
head is undergoing a major DVB re-write so i'd use the 0.18-fixes
branch for a production system until that all settles down.

Have a look in the logs to see if there's anything useful, otherwise
try and get a backtrace (see the user guide for instructions).

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Re: [mythtv-users] Multiple channels at the same time, with one DVB card ?

[Stephen Williams]

On 9/20/05, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> By same multiplex, does that mean "4.1 4.2 4.3..." but not "4.1 5.1 6.1..."?
> 
> Thanks!

By the same multiplex it effectively means "transmitted on the same
frequency". I don't believe there's any limitation on whether channel
4.1 or 4.2 (for example) have to be transmitted on the same multiplex
or may be transmitted on different multiplexes. I would suspect that
the specs were written such that this sort of organisational detail is
up to the network that runs the multiplex(es).

Whilst it's a stated wish that Myth should be able to handle multiple
channels simultaneously from a single multiplex, I don't think anybody
is actively working on this feature (they can correct me if i'm
wrong!). Likewise, whether or not the current DVB re-write will make
this goal easier / harder is a question for the current DVB devs.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Garbled audio

[Stephen Atkins]

Stephen Atkins wrote:

At this point I'm sure its got something to do with my audio drivers.  
I've got a intel8x0 driver (same driver name as the old kernel but 
this time compiled with the kernel).  Has anyone else seen or heard of 
this problem?


Well I was wrong.  Its not the intel audio driver.  I copied over a 
bigger file that I recorded earlier today (30 min show for my wife) and 
its garbled audio (perfect video) in some places.


Some more info about my cards.  As I said they are a PVR250 and a 
PVR150MCE.  I'm running ivtv-0.2.0-rc3k.  I've also got the 
ivtv-fw-enc.bin and HcwMakoA.ROM from my old HD (they worked fine 
before.  I'm now wondering if its a ivtv/rom problem.  Just wondering if 
anyone else has this type of setup and what versions of the drivers/rom 
they are using.


Thanks again.
Stephen
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[mythtv-users] Garbled audio

[Stephen Atkins]

Hello all.  I had to rebuild my mythtv box this past weekend because of 
a HD failure.  Any way I'm running the exact same hardware as before.  
What did change is my kernel version.  I was using 2.4.25-gentoo 
becasuse it was the only kernel I could find that would allow me to use 
my sata drive (some bug in the drive).  I'm now running a 
2.6.12-gentoo-r10 kernel (as you can tell its Gentoo same as my last 
box).  I've got a PVR250 as video0 and a PVR150MCE as video1.  
Everything worked great on the old box no audio problems.  But this time 
every 5 to 10 seconds the audio gets garbled then straightens its self 
out for 5 or 10 seconds.  If I use mplayer /dev/video0 (or 1) it works 
fine.  Once I use myth it will start garbling the audio.  Exit myth and 
use mplayer again and the audio is garbled.  I recorded about 15 seconds 
of tv and stopped recording right after I got some garbled audio.  I 
copied this file to another computer and it plays fine with no garbled 
audio.


At this point I'm sure its got something to do with my audio drivers.  
I've got a intel8x0 driver (same driver name as the old kernel but this 
time compiled with the kernel).  Has anyone else seen or heard of this 
problem?


Thanks in advance.
Stephen
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythburn... GUI? Or just web interface?

[Stephen Boddy]

On Sunday 18 September 2005 02:03, Jesse Guardiani wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On this page, I see mythburn with
> what looks like an on-screen interface:
>   http://mythburn.sourceforge.net/
>
> But when I installed mythburn from
> here:
>   http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=MythTVBurn_Scripts_HowTo
>
> All I got was a mythweb interface.
> Does the latest version of mythburn
> come with a GUI interface? Or do I
> have to use the web interface?

Hmmm... maybe the line:
"New interface coming soon..."
directly above the picture should give you a hint... ;-)
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Re: [mythtv-users] MYSQL - editor

[Stephen Boddy]

On Sunday 11 September 2005 02:14, A JM wrote:
> Is there an opensource MYSQL database editor that someone could recommend?
> I want to modify some of the descriptions on my recordings and am not great
> with SQL and I thought a GUI would be a great help.
>  Thanks,

I didn't see knoda or rekall mentioned. They don't just work with MySQL (so 
may not have all the features of dedicated apps) and they are still a little 
rough around the edges sometimes. They are both native KDE apps.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: MythTV and Apple Cinema Display 23"

[Stephen Williams]

On 9/12/05, Barry Hee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I don't need to fiddle the X configuration as Fedora Core 4 supports all
> Apple monitors including the 23 "out the box". I just select it from the
> System Settimgs/Display/Hardware with a resolution of 1920 x 1200. The
> desktop is fine but when I am running Myth the image is 'squished'
> vertically not hortizontally.
>  
>  Barry

FC4 may well provide a valid modeline for the monitor "out of the box"
what the symptoms you're seeing are because X-server does not know the
aspect ratio of the display. i.e. it doesn't know whether the display
is a 1920x1200 display with a 4:3 aspect ratio or a 16:9 aspect ratio.

Unless X is able to tell Myth / Mplayer / etc what the aspect ratio is
each of these programs will fall back to some default (Myth assumes a
4:3 display, whilst it appears that VLC assumes a 16:9 display).

I don't run FC so I have no idea what the default for this display is,
but it definitely sounds like you've got a modeline but no info on the
physical dimensions of the display. Also, check the archives for info
on how to set DISPLAYSIZE such that the X is working as 100dpi.

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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV and Apple Cinema Display 23"

[Stephen Williams]

On 9/12/05, Barry Hee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just installed an 23" Apple LCD monitor on my Fedora Core 4 system with
> latest kernel and the image is vertically compressed although width is
> correct. The vertical height is similar to watching a DVD with aspect
> 1:2.35. My recordings are DVB 16:9 and display okay on a 4:3 monitor. Any
> idea why this happens?
>  
>  regards
>  Barry

Have you set the DISPLAYSIZE attributes in your X configuration such
that X knows that the attached display is 16:9 (or whatever the aspect
ratio this display has)?

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Re: [mythtv-users] ripping EVERYTHING on a DVD to a single file

[stephen]

Jesse Guardiani wrote:

Hello,

How do I just rip an entire DVD (without transcoding) to disk
as a single file?

I don't want to rip it to multiple files, because then multiple
files will show up in the Videos section for the same DVD. But
I want everything, as DVD menus are necessary for some DVDs
(i.e. TV series, like CSI - you need the menu to jump around
from show to show), and other special edition DVDs have all kinds
of extras that I don't want to lose.

Any ideas?

Thanks!



I use lsdvd ...

$ lsdvd /dev/cdrom
$ dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/videos/dir/[filename].iso

Works great.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Off Topic - DVB-T, Muxes and reception...

[Stephen Williams]

Just a quick follow-up to my earlier post. You can see the gain for
different aerial groups on the follwoing graph
http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/Articles/img/fig%201, Obviously, higher
gain is better.

The power of the different muxes is given on this page:
http://.dtt-tx-info.org/change_tx.htm

As you can see, muxes C and D are transmitted at half power compared
to the rest. And since mux D is at the highest frequency i'd guess
that the one you're having problems with, right? (Mux D shows TMF, The
Hits, Ftn, etc).

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] Off Topic - DVB-T, Muxes and reception...

[Stephen Williams]

On 9/8/05, Jules Gosnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If all muxes are being transmitted from the same transmitter, why should
> one bundle of channels feel like it is coming from the moon ? Are muxes
> simply s/w abstractions or do they correspond somehow to physical
> divisions in the h/w - i.e. is my problem mux maybe being pumped out at
> a lower power than all the others etc...

1. Not all muxes are transmitted with the same power. There's a
website somewhere that tells you the power of each mux for each
transmitter (should be linked from the freeview website).

2. The sensitivity of your aerial is not constant across all
frequencies. You can buy aerials that give you excellent reception for
certain frequency bands (you'll need to figure out which one is best
or your transmitter) or you can get a 'wideband' aerial that will give
you average reception over a frequency range that should cover any
transmitter (this is what most standard retailers will sell you).

Chances are that what you are reporting is due to '2' above. The 'bad'
mux is almost certainly on the highest or lowest frequency of the six
muxes for your transmitter, and you'll almost certainly be using a
'wideband' aerial. My suggestion would be to either buy a higher gain
'wideband' aerial or (probably better) buy an aerial that matches your
required frequencies.

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] MPEG2 Encoded Program Playback Performance w/VIA Unichrome xvmc

[Stephen Dolan]

> Apologies for going a bit OT, but has anyone out there got this colour
> OSD patch working? I've tried to patch Myth 0.18.1, but the patch on
> the site fails - I guess its for an earlier version of Myth. Anyone
> know if a newer patch is available ?
> 
To answer my own post... the patch is for svn revision 6809 of mythtv.
It won't apply cleanly to the latest SVN version either :-(
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Re: [mythtv-users] MPEG2 Encoded Program Playback Performance w/VIA Unichrome xvmc

[Stephen Dolan]

>  Another indicator that MythTV is using VIA xvmc hardware MPEG2 decoding
>  is that when that option is enabled in the MythTV setup, the OSD
>  displays in greyscale (as described and patched for
>  at http://www.ivor.it/mythtv/).
> 

Apologies for going a bit OT, but has anyone out there got this colour
OSD patch working? I've tried to patch Myth 0.18.1, but the patch on
the site fails - I guess its for an earlier version of Myth. Anyone
know if a newer patch is available ?
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Re: [mythtv-users] VIA XvMCvld

[Stephen Dolan]

> Thanks a lot for your efforts to help me, but I havn't seen any problem with X
> itself, that means if I start a normal X session with window manager and so
> on I have the full screen, only if I start mythfrontend with xinit and
> XvMCvld enabled I get this problem, also just after the start of the X server
> I have the full screen with it's typical grey background, but when
> mythfrontend is starting up it's only the top half.
> 
Its possible that you could have dodgy kernel modules and still have a
functioning X server. Can you try running glxgears or glxinfo to find
out if DRM is working properly. If it is, then you should be getting
around 500fps using glxgears.
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[mythtv-users] Problem with nuvexport...

[Stephen Norris]

This isn't the yuvdenoise one, this is something else. My perl is very
minimal, so if anyone can suggest anything... This is the latest
nuvexport, with all the tools being the latest Fedora Core 3 atrpm/dries
ones.

([EMAIL PROTECTED]) $ nuvexport -debug

Loading MythTV recording info.
100%

Using ffmpeg for exporting.
What would you like to do?

  1. Export to XviD
  2. Export to SVCD
  3. Export to VCD
  4. Export to DVCD (VCD with 48kHz audio for making DVDs)
  5. Export to DVD
  6. Export to DivX
  7. Export to ASF
  8. Export to MP3
  9. Export to PSP (disabled)
 10. MPEG2->MPEG2 cut only (disabled)
 11. Export to .nuv and .sql

  q. Quit

Choose a function:  5


You have recorded the following shows:

  1. Catch Me If You Can (1 episode)
  2. Das Journal (1 episode)
  3. Extra German (1 episode)
  4. Play School (1 episode)

  q. Quit

Choose a show:  4


Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string
at /usr/share/nuvexport/nuv_export/ui.pm line 290,  line 2.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string
at /usr/share/nuvexport/nuv_export/ui.pm line 290,  line 2.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string
at /usr/share/nuvexport/nuv_export/ui.pm line 290,  line 2.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string
at /usr/share/nuvexport/nuv_export/ui.pm line 290,  line 2.

You have chosen to export 1 episode:

  1. Play School:
 (9/5, 09:23 AM) x  ()
 (G)

* Separate multiple episodes with spaces

  c. Continue
  n. Choose another show
  q. Quit

Choose a function, or episode(s) to remove:  c
Where would you like to export the files to? [.]
. isn't writable.
Where would you like to export the files to? [.]
. isn't writable.
Where would you like to export the files to? [.] /tmp
Enable Myth cutlist? [Yes]
yuvdenoise version 1.6.3rc1 is broken and cannot be used.
Press enter to continue.
Enable deinterlacing? [Yes]
Crop broadcast overscan (2% border)? [Yes]
Audio bitrate? [384]
Maximum video bitrate for VBR? [6000]
VBR quality/quantisation (1-31)? [5]


To encode:  Play School:  Untitled
Use the following commands:
Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//)
at /usr/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg/DVD.pm line 136,  line 13.
Use of uninitialized value in multiplication (*)
at /usr/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg.pm line 108,  line 13.
Use of uninitialized value in multiplication (*)
at /usr/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg.pm line 109,  line 13.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string
at /usr/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg.pm line 149,  line 13.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string
at /usr/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg.pm line 150,  line 13.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string
at /usr/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg.pm line 153,  line 13.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string
at /usr/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg.pm line 153,  line 13.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string
at /usr/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg.pm line 153,  line 13.
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string
at /usr/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg.pm line 153,  line 13.
Use of uninitialized value in division (/)
at /usr/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg.pm line 167,  line 13.
Illegal division by zero at /usr/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg.pm line
167,  line 13.


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[mythtv-users] Best card to use - especially signal sensitivity

[Stephen Kitchener]

Hi,

I am looking for user knowledge / experience.

I have been trying an old Hauppauge DVB-T card, and while it works fine, it 
doesn't seem to have the best signal sensitivity with respect to the set-top 
boxes that I have, they all perform well, with no dropouts either video or 
audio, but when I am watching the same program on the PC card I get dropouts, 
I am assuming that this is due to the hardware and not the software that is 
driving it ???

If this is so, can someone suggest a replacement for use in the UK, either PCI 
card or USB-2.

I have been looking at hauppauge's newest offering, but I have been unable to 
find out if it's a better performer, signal wise, when compared to others. 
Hopefully the newer offerings are better at lower signal strengths.

Does any user have any info that I can make some comparisons with ??

Any help or URL's  

Steve 
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Re: [mythtv-users] NOVA-T Hauppauge testing to see if my card is working

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Friday 02 Sep 2005 15:25, Stephen Kitchener wrote:
Hi,

Fixed it - it seems that the system (Mandrake) creates the /dev entries as 
root:video, so the normal user wasn't able to use them, running klear (the 
app I'm using to test) works..

Now - where did I hide that large disk drive :-)

Thanks all
> On Thursday 01 Sep 2005 22:25, Robin Elvin wrote:
>
> Hi Robin,
>
> Ok, The first two tests work, ie tzap gets me a the FE-HAS_LOCK messages,
>
> scan get's me a channel.conf of 80 channels with the command...
>
> ./util/scan/scan ./util/scan/dvb-t/uk-Oxford > channels.conf
>
> but when I run dvbstream made from a CVS checkout (Version 0.6)
>
> I get
>
> ./dvbstream -o -ps -qam 16 -cr 3_4 600 601 | /usr/bin/mplayer -
> dvbstream v0.6 - (C) Dave Chapman 2001-2004
> Released under the GPL.
> Latest version available from http://www.linuxstb.org/
> dvbstream will stop after -1 seconds (71582788 minutes)
> FD 0: DEMUX DEVICE: : Permission denied
> MPlayer 1.0pre6-3.4.3 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team
> CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon MP/XP Thoroughbred (Family: 6, Stepping:
> 1) Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes
> CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
> Compiled with runtime CPU detection - WARNING - this is not optimal!
> To get best performance, recompile MPlayer with
> --disable-runtime-cpudetection.
>
>
> 77 audio & 188 video codecs
> Failed to open /dev/rtc: Device or resource busy (it should be readable by
> the user.)
> Opening joystick device /dev/input/js0
> Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0 : No such file or directory
> Can't init input joystick
> Setting up LIRC support...
> mplayer: could not connect to socket
> mplayer: No such file or directory
> Failed to open LIRC support.
> You will not be able to use your remote control.
> Playing -.
> Reading from stdin...
> Cache fill:  0.00% (0 bytes)XMMS: found plugin: libcdaudio.so (CD Audio
> Player 1.2.10)
> XMMS: found plugin: libtonegen.so (Tone Generator 1.2.10)
> XMMS: found plugin: libwav.so (Wave Player 1.2.10)
> XMMS: Closing plugin /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libwav.so
> XMMS: Closing plugin /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libtonegen.so
> XMMS: Closing plugin /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libcdaudio.so
>
>
> Exiting... (End of file)
>
> So, I guess that mplayer needs something else ??
>
> Steve
>
> > On Thursday 01 September 2005 16:53, Stephen Kitchener wrote:
> > > Forgot to say, I can send an image of the card if that would help ???
> >
> > Stephen,
> >
> > No, I don't think that's necessary as I think you have everything you
> > need. It seems to me that now you have upgraded kernels and have the
> > right entries in /dev/dvb you should be OK to start tuning.
> >
> > Try a tzap ( I presume you have the right file for your transmitter?) and
> > then see if you get the FE_LOCK messages.
>
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Re: [mythtv-users] NOVA-T Hauppauge testing to see if my card is working

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Thursday 01 Sep 2005 22:25, Robin Elvin wrote:

Hi Robin,

Ok, The first two tests work, ie tzap gets me a the FE-HAS_LOCK messages,

scan get's me a channel.conf of 80 channels with the command...

./util/scan/scan ./util/scan/dvb-t/uk-Oxford > channels.conf

but when I run dvbstream made from a CVS checkout (Version 0.6)

I get 

./dvbstream -o -ps -qam 16 -cr 3_4 600 601 | /usr/bin/mplayer -
dvbstream v0.6 - (C) Dave Chapman 2001-2004
Released under the GPL.
Latest version available from http://www.linuxstb.org/
dvbstream will stop after -1 seconds (71582788 minutes)
FD 0: DEMUX DEVICE: : Permission denied
MPlayer 1.0pre6-3.4.3 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team
CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon MP/XP Thoroughbred (Family: 6, Stepping: 1)
Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes
CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
Compiled with runtime CPU detection - WARNING - this is not optimal!
To get best performance, recompile MPlayer with 
--disable-runtime-cpudetection.


77 audio & 188 video codecs
Failed to open /dev/rtc: Device or resource busy (it should be readable by the 
user.)
Opening joystick device /dev/input/js0
Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0 : No such file or directory
Can't init input joystick
Setting up LIRC support...
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support.
You will not be able to use your remote control.
Playing -.
Reading from stdin...
Cache fill:  0.00% (0 bytes)XMMS: found plugin: libcdaudio.so (CD Audio 
Player 1.2.10)
XMMS: found plugin: libtonegen.so (Tone Generator 1.2.10)
XMMS: found plugin: libwav.so (Wave Player 1.2.10)
XMMS: Closing plugin /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libwav.so
XMMS: Closing plugin /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libtonegen.so
XMMS: Closing plugin /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libcdaudio.so


Exiting... (End of file)

So, I guess that mplayer needs something else ??

Steve


> On Thursday 01 September 2005 16:53, Stephen Kitchener wrote:
> > Forgot to say, I can send an image of the card if that would help ???
>
> Stephen,
>
> No, I don't think that's necessary as I think you have everything you need.
> It seems to me that now you have upgraded kernels and have the right
> entries in /dev/dvb you should be OK to start tuning.
>
> Try a tzap ( I presume you have the right file for your transmitter?) and
> then see if you get the FE_LOCK messages.
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Re: [mythtv-users] NOVA-T Hauppauge testing to see if my card is working

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Thursday 01 Sep 2005 22:25, Robin Elvin wrote:

Hi Robin,

I ran ./util/scan/scan ./util/scan/dvb-t/uk-Oxford > channels.conf
 and this works, I get channels being detected but when I try to use a TV 
application, I am using Klear to start off, I get an error that the DVB 
device can't be found :-(..

Steve

> On Thursday 01 September 2005 16:53, Stephen Kitchener wrote:
> > Forgot to say, I can send an image of the card if that would help ???
>
> Stephen,
>
> No, I don't think that's necessary as I think you have everything you need.
> It seems to me that now you have upgraded kernels and have the right
> entries in /dev/dvb you should be OK to start tuning.
>
> Try a tzap ( I presume you have the right file for your transmitter?) and
> then see if you get the FE_LOCK messages.
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Re: [mythtv-users] NOVA-T Hauppauge testing to see if my card is working

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Thursday 01 Sep 2005 22:25, Robin Elvin wrote:
> On Thursday 01 September 2005 16:53, Stephen Kitchener wrote:
> > Forgot to say, I can send an image of the card if that would help ???
>
> Stephen,
>
> No, I don't think that's necessary as I think you have everything you need.
> It seems to me that now you have upgraded kernels and have the right
> entries in /dev/dvb you should be OK to start tuning.
>
> Try a tzap ( I presume you have the right file for your transmitter?) and
> then see if you get the FE_LOCK messages.


Ok I get

./util/szap/tzap BBC-1 14:06
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
tuning to 57800 Hz
video pid 0x0258, audio pid 0x0259
status 01 | signal 3232 | snr 1c1c | ber  | unc  |
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e9e9 | ber 004d | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e9e9 | ber 0047 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e8e8 | ber 0047 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e9e9 | ber 0043 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e7e7 | ber 004f | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e9e9 | ber 0053 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e8e8 | ber 0044 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e9e9 | ber 003d | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e8e8 | ber 005a | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e8e8 | ber 0051 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e8e8 | ber 0045 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e9e9 | ber 0049 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~stephen/linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.0# ./util/szap/tzap BBC-2   
  
14:07
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
tuning to 57800 Hz
video pid 0x0262, audio pid 0x0263
status 01 | signal 3232 | snr 1313 | ber 7e12 | unc 0008 |
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e9e9 | ber 0047 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e8e8 | ber 0048 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e7e7 | ber 0051 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e8e8 | ber 0047 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e9e9 | ber 0049 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e8e8 | ber 004a | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e8e8 | ber 0046 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e8e8 | ber 0047 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e8e8 | ber 0045 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e7e7 | ber 0040 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e7e7 | ber 0042 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e9e9 | ber 0050 | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 3232 | snr e8e8 | ber 003c | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK

Is that what I am supposed to see, I get FE_HAS_LOCK and not FE_LOCK

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] Best deal on premade lirc receivers?

[Stephen Williams]

I bought my pre-made receiver from here:

http://www.zapway.de/e_index1.htm

They're small / simple and well made. Delivery was quick (to the UK)
and reasonably priced.

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] NOVA-T Hauppauge testing to see if my card is working

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Thursday 01 Sep 2005 00:18, Robin Elvin wrote:

Forgot to say, I can send an image of the card if that would help ???

> On Wednesday 31 August 2005 09:46, Stephen Kitchener wrote:
> > On Wednesday 31 Aug 2005 03:42, Nick wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nick,
> >
> > > On 8/30/05, Stephen Kitchener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 25 Aug 2005 10:35, Robin Elvin wrote:
> > > > Hi Robin,
> > > >
> > > > My mythtv list, you asked
> > > >
> > > > > Which version of the Nova-T is it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it the 90002? If so then your module list is wrong.
> > > >
> > > > How do I find out what version of Nova-t it is ???
> > > > Is there a way to find out from linux, lspci only shows
> > > > Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01)
> > > > and that's not the front end is it,
> > >
> > > I don't think it's the newer 90002 with those chips. I think it is the
> > > older model. Perhaps this article may be of some use (if you've not
> > > already read it):
> > >
> > > http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb2.html
> >
> > yes I have read it - but unfortunately it didn't help, I gained
> > knowledge,
>
> but
>
> > it didn't seem to help me and my card, The thing that is different in
> > dmesg on this machine is that the line
> >
> > DVB: registering frontend 0 (LSI L64781 DVB-T)
> >
> > in dmesg doesn't look like it matches any supported frontend, does anyone
>
> know
>
> > any better ???
> >
> > I've attached my dmesg to help anyone that might be able to help me
> >
> > > Nick
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> You're right, it doesn't look like a 90002. I asked because I seem to
> remember the older modules loaded without question on my board and I spent
> a while working out why the damn thing didn't work.
>
> The easiest way is to look at the card and read the chip manufacturer and
> numbers off the chips and also get the Hauppauge model off the sticker on
> tuner shielding. Having said that it looks like you have an earlier card.
> You also check the pictures here:
> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/PCI_devices_DVB-T
>
> Also you might get some pointers here: http://cuboidal.org/divo/dvb/
>
> Sorry, I missed the start of this thread but you look like you have the
> right device nodes from the drivers you have - what problem are you having?
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Re: [mythtv-users] NOVA-T Hauppauge testing to see if my card is working

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Thursday 01 Sep 2005 00:18, Robin Elvin wrote:

Hi Rob,

> On Wednesday 31 August 2005 09:46, Stephen Kitchener wrote:
> > On Wednesday 31 Aug 2005 03:42, Nick wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nick,
> >
> > > On 8/30/05, Stephen Kitchener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 25 Aug 2005 10:35, Robin Elvin wrote:
> > > > Hi Robin,
> > > >
> > > > My mythtv list, you asked
> > > >
> > > > > Which version of the Nova-T is it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it the 90002? If so then your module list is wrong.
> > > >
> > > > How do I find out what version of Nova-t it is ???
> > > > Is there a way to find out from linux, lspci only shows
> > > > Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01)
> > > > and that's not the front end is it,
> > >
> > > I don't think it's the newer 90002 with those chips. I think it is the
> > > older model. Perhaps this article may be of some use (if you've not
> > > already read it):
> > >
> > > http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb2.html
> >
> > yes I have read it - but unfortunately it didn't help, I gained
> > knowledge,
>
> but
>
> > it didn't seem to help me and my card, The thing that is different in
> > dmesg on this machine is that the line
> >
> > DVB: registering frontend 0 (LSI L64781 DVB-T)
> >
> > in dmesg doesn't look like it matches any supported frontend, does anyone
>
> know
>
> > any better ???
> >
> > I've attached my dmesg to help anyone that might be able to help me
> >
> > > Nick
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>
> You're right, it doesn't look like a 90002. I asked because I seem to
> remember the older modules loaded without question on my board and I spent
> a while working out why the damn thing didn't work.
>
> The easiest way is to look at the card and read the chip manufacturer and
> numbers off the chips and also get the Hauppauge model off the sticker on
> tuner shielding. Having said that it looks like you have an earlier card.
> You also check the pictures here:
> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/PCI_devices_DVB-T
>
> Also you might get some pointers here: http://cuboidal.org/divo/dvb/
>
> Sorry, I missed the start of this thread but you look like you have the
> right device nodes from the drivers you have - what problem are you having?

Thanks for the links, I did look there but missed the pictures at the right 
hand side.looking at those, it seems to me that mine is REALLY old, it 
has a 2001 copyright, and the board looks a bit different.

The thing that concerns me is that the frontend seems to be identified, but 
not as a philips or a Conexant but somthing else, and I don't know what it 
is...

the line in dmesg shows

DVB: registering frontend 0 (LSI L64781 DVB-T)...

Should I give up and try another card or ??? If I can find one that has the 
correct chips on it :-)

Thanks for any help given.

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] C3 EPIA Guide Published

[Stephen Dolan]

I've published a little (well, big) guide on getting myth up and 
runningon a Via EPIA using Mandriva Linux 2005.


It may be useful to some new-to-linux users. Also, if you experts 
couldlook it over, maybe you could find some things I could do 
better,faster, or easier.


http://groundstate.ca/c3mythtv



In section 5, you provide a link to the unichrome driver 
(http://mythtv.ivor.org/unichrome), but this link doesn't appear to be 
working. I believe it should be http://myth.ivor.org/unichrome/





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Re: [mythtv-users] Epia Board and PVR350 or PVR500

[Stephen Dolan]

I want to use an Epia Board SP8000 or SP13000 for my HTPC. On 
different HTPC-forums I read, that the TV-Out of the Hauppauge PVR350 
is better compared to the onboard TV-out. And I heard about heat 
problems of the PVR350 especially in small cases (like the ones for 
epia).



Well, my experience with using the tv-out on an EPIA-M board is that the 
picture quality is fine. Admittedly, I'm using the s-video port and NOT 
the composite port, as this does have poorer quality. I really see not 
problems with the quality from the s-video. Of course, the TV you use 
has a lot to do with it - mine is a high-end 32" widescreen with a 100Hz 
refresh and lots of built in digital signal processing, so maybe its 
cleaning up the signal somewhat...


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[mythtv-users] Front end choice: Mac Mini versus VIA EPIA. Mac OS X remote control?

[Stephen Dolan]

I'm at an awkward stage with Myth.

My back end is pretty much complete and works a treat.  I bought the 
slowest second-hand P4 machine that the local second-hand computer 
shop ( - it's a great place) could 
sell me, installed Gentoo, two Hauppauge Nova-T cards and Myth and 
everything worked pretty easily.  Kudos to the developers, the Gentoo 
ebuild maintainers and the many HOWTO authors.  It records stuff 
reliably and dishes out the video to either a front end running on 
the same machine (in the study) or to my PowerBook plugged in via 
100-baseT.  It doesn't work too well wirelessly, but that's no 
surprise.


So, now the difficult bit.  The back end will be hidden away (in the 
attic, probably).  It is time to buy a front end system.  I want 
something quiet, above all, so was considering either a Mac mini or a 
VIA EPIA system.  It would be controlled only via a remote control - 
I've no plans to provide it with a pointing device or to use it for 
general computing.


For what its worth I have an EPIA M1 running as both a backend and a 
frontend. With the built in mpg2 decoding hardware, I can play back my 
recordings using about 12% of the cpu, so using a lower speed  fanless 
EPIA should pose no problems as a frontend


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Re: [mythtv-users] NOVA-T Hauppauge testing to see if my card is working

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Wednesday 31 Aug 2005 03:42, Nick wrote:

Hi Nick,

> On 8/30/05, Stephen Kitchener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thursday 25 Aug 2005 10:35, Robin Elvin wrote:
> > Hi Robin,
> >
> > My mythtv list, you asked
> >
> > > Which version of the Nova-T is it?
> > >
> > > Is it the 90002? If so then your module list is wrong.
> >
> > How do I find out what version of Nova-t it is ???
> > Is there a way to find out from linux, lspci only shows
> > Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01)
> > and that's not the front end is it,
>
> I don't think it's the newer 90002 with those chips. I think it is the
> older model. Perhaps this article may be of some use (if you've not
> already read it):
>
> http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb2.html

yes I have read it - but unfortunately it didn't help, I gained knowledge, but 
it didn't seem to help me and my card, The thing that is different in dmesg 
on this machine is that the line

DVB: registering frontend 0 (LSI L64781 DVB-T) 

in dmesg doesn't look like it matches any supported frontend, does anyone know 
any better ???
 
I've attached my dmesg to help anyone that might be able to help me

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Re: [mythtv-users] NOVA-T Hauppauge testing to see if my card is working

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Thursday 25 Aug 2005 10:35, Robin Elvin wrote:
Hi Robin,

My mythtv list, you asked

> Which version of the Nova-T is it?
>
> Is it the 90002? If so then your module list is wrong.

How do I find out what version of Nova-t it is ???
Is there a way to find out from linux, lspci only shows 
Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01)
and that's not the front end is it,

dmesg shows

tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 60134, rev = C1V , serial# = 1075784
and
DVB: registering frontend 0 (LSI L64781 DVB-T)...

Does that help ??

Any help appreciated...

Steve
>
> Here's mine:
>
> evdev   7424  1
> cx88_dvb4996  7
> cx8802  7364  1 cx88_dvb
> mt352   6532  1 cx88_dvb
> cx88xx 48156  2 cx88_dvb,cx8802
> ir_common   4036  1 cx88xx
> btcx_risc   3784  2 cx8802,cx88xx
> tveeprom   11224  1 cx88xx
> videodev7424  1 cx88xx
> video_buf_dvb   4548  1 cx88_dvb
> dvb_core   76328  8 video_buf_dvb
> cx22702 8580  1 cx88_dvb
> dvb_pll 3012  3 cx88_dvb,cx88xx,cx22702
> video_buf  17284  4 cx88_dvb,cx8802,cx88xx,video_buf_dvb
>
> I'm not sure whether the wrong modules will load. If so then disregard this
> info but I seem to remember having a similar issue with wrong drivers
> before the newer ones got into the kernel source tree.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Wakeup Timer

[Stephen Dolan]

Nigel Metheringham wrote:

  On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 00:40 +0200, Michael Vistein wrote:
  
  
Nigel Metheringham schrieb:


 title Power Down
	savedefault --default=2
	halt

but on power up it sticks on the 0 entry (the power down).
  

I didn't succeed with this, too, grub simply didn't save the new default.

But I found a way that works:

in my menu.lst I have

default 1

so my linux kernel is the default boot option. In my mythshutdown script
I have

echo "savedefault --default=0 --once" | grub --batch

This sets the PowerOff (0) item only for the next boot. Any following
booting will again have the default from menu.lst. It works for me.
  
  
  

Thats odd - the commands I use to implement this are quite different.

I'm running a Gentoo installation and I have grub 0.96-r2 installed. In
my grub.conf I have :

  default saved

  ..

  title PowerOff
  savedefault 0
  halt

Then my mythshutdown script is :

  grub-set-default 1
  reboot


Works for me. When I was setting it up, I tried using the format you're
describing, but I couldn't get it to work


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Re: [mythtv-users] NOVA-T Hauppauge testing to see if my card is working

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Thursday 25 Aug 2005 10:35, Robin Elvin wrote:
Hi,

Left this alone for a time - upgraded the PC so that its running the latest 
the Madrake (Madriva) can, so at least it's running the latest kernel at 
least..

> Which version of the Nova-T is it?
>
> Is it the 90002? If so then your module list is wrong.

How do I tell what 'version' of the card it is ?? At least that would be a 
starting point ... 

>
> Here's mine:
>
> evdev   7424  1
> cx88_dvb4996  7
> cx8802  7364  1 cx88_dvb
> mt352   6532  1 cx88_dvb
> cx88xx 48156  2 cx88_dvb,cx8802
> ir_common   4036  1 cx88xx
> btcx_risc   3784  2 cx8802,cx88xx
> tveeprom   11224  1 cx88xx
> videodev7424  1 cx88xx
> video_buf_dvb   4548  1 cx88_dvb
> dvb_core   76328  8 video_buf_dvb
> cx22702 8580  1 cx88_dvb
> dvb_pll 3012  3 cx88_dvb,cx88xx,cx22702
> video_buf  17284  4 cx88_dvb,cx8802,cx88xx,video_buf_dvb
>
> I'm not sure whether the wrong modules will load. If so then disregard this
> info but I seem to remember having a similar issue with wrong drivers
> before the newer ones got into the kernel source tree.


I do get more modules loaded and I do get some entries in , /dev/dvb/ but not 
as many as I have seen in some howtows, I get in /dev/dvb/adapter0

drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 120 Aug 29 12:23 ./
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  60 Aug 29 12:23 ../
crw-rw  1 root video 212, 4 Aug 29 12:23 demux0
crw-rw  1 root video 212, 5 Aug 29 12:23 dvr0
crw-rw  1 root video 212, 3 Aug 29 12:23 frontend0
crw-rw  1 root video 212, 7 Aug 29 12:23 net0

I think there should be more

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Re: [mythtv-users] Methods for perfecting NVidia TV Output (was 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200)

[Stephen Williams]

On 8/26/05, Mats Cedergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 26 aug 2005, at 19.34, Justin Hornsby wrote:
> I have a barebone case with an integrated nVidia Geforce 4 MX.
> Everything worked fine using my own VGA to SCART convertor for a
> while, but nVidia driver version 6629 was the last one to work with
> interlaced output. Every version I have tried since then does not
> work (using PAL 720x576). The problem is that 6629 does not compile
> on newer kernels (like 2.6.1x used in Fedora Core 4).
> 
> Mats

I didn't know that. I'm still using a 2.4 kernel and old Nvidia driver
(6067 I think). I'm working on the "if it ain't broke then don't fix
it" principle.

Thanks for the heads-up, i'll make sure to check that out if I ever
need to upgrade.

Steve
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