Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
rpm -Uvh --oldpackage packagename.rpm On Apr 7, 2005, at 5:21 PM, Larry K wrote: Can someone tell me how to downgrade the urw fonts without using the rpm --force option? I tried running this command: rpm -Uvh ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/2/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpm But I was told I already have a newer version (duh). Should I uninstall the urw-fonts package I have now, and then reinstall the one shown above? Thanks! On Apr 6, 2005 4:28 AM, Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 15:08 -0400, David Blackwell wrote: > rpm --upgrade --force blahblah.rpm NEVER do this. Really, I mean *never*. You tend to permanently louse up your rpm dependencies database if you --force installs/updates. --oldpackage is the right way to go to a lower version - and remember to exclude the package (yum) or pin it (apt) to prevent the package coming back again. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
Jarod, At the risk of sounding like a total n00b, I don't seem to be able to run that rpm command. It says 'no such file or directory' rpm -q uaw-fonts returns this: urw-fonts-2.2-7.99_1.at Ideas? I'm probably being overly cautious because...now that I have my system working, I don't want to do something silly to corrupt my rpm database.On Apr 7, 2005 8:36 PM, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Thursday 07 April 2005 16:21, Larry K wrote: Can someone tell me how to downgrade the urw fonts without using the rpm --force option? I tried running this command: rpm -Uvh ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/2/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpm But I was told I already have a newer version (duh).Should I uninstall the urw-fonts package I have now, and then reinstall the one shown above?rpm -Uvh --oldpackage urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpm--Jarod Wilson[EMAIL PROTECTED]Got a question? Read this first... http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.htmlMythTV, Fedora Core ATrpms documentation: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/MythTV Searchable Mailing List Archive http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Friday 08 April 2005 17:28, Larry K wrote: Jarod, At the risk of sounding like a total n00b, I don't seem to be able to run that rpm command. It says 'no such file or directory' rpm -q uaw-fonts returns this: urw-fonts-2.2-7.99_1.at Ideas? I'm probably being overly cautious because...now that I have my system working, I don't want to do something silly to corrupt my rpm database. You didn't download the package first. :-) Either: # wget \ ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/2/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpm # rpm -Uvh --oldpackage urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpm or: # rpm -Uvh --oldpackage \ ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/2/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpm On Apr 7, 2005 8:36 PM, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 07 April 2005 16:21, Larry K wrote: Can someone tell me how to downgrade the urw fonts without using the rpm --force option? I tried running this command: rpm -Uvh ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/2/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/urw-fonts-2.1-7 .n oarch.rpm But I was told I already have a newer version (duh). Should I uninstall the urw-fonts package I have now, and then reinstall the one shown above? rpm -Uvh --oldpackage urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpm -- Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got a question? Read this first... http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html MythTV, Fedora Core ATrpms documentation: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/ MythTV Searchable Mailing List Archive http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ pgpNYnLi5G5yO.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
Ah...that's it. If you couldnt tell already, I am still learning Linux. :) Before I started on mythtv, I hade never worked with Linux at all, so it's taking me a little longer to get with the program. I tried reading up on rpm, but the man page is pretty darn tedious. Appreciate the help. On Apr 8, 2005 8:33 PM, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Friday 08 April 2005 17:28, Larry K wrote: Jarod, At the risk of sounding like a total n00b, I don't seem to be able to run that rpm command. It says 'no such file or directory' rpm -q uaw-fonts returns this: urw-fonts-2.2-7.99_1.at Ideas? I'm probably being overly cautious because...now that I have my system working, I don't want to do something silly to corrupt my rpm database.You didn't download the package first. :-)Either:# wget \ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/2/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpm# rpm -Uvh --oldpackage urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpmor:# rpm -Uvh --oldpackage \ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/2/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpm On Apr 7, 2005 8:36 PM, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 07 April 2005 16:21, Larry K wrote: Can someone tell me how to downgrade the urw fonts without using the rpm --force option? I tried running this command: rpm -Uvh ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/2/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/urw-fonts-2.1-7 .n oarch.rpm But I was told I already have a newer version (duh). Should I uninstall the urw-fonts package I have now, and then reinstall the one shown above? rpm -Uvh --oldpackage urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpm--Jarod Wilson[EMAIL PROTECTED]Got a question? Read this first... http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.htmlMythTV, Fedora Core ATrpms documentation: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/MythTV Searchable Mailing List Archive http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
Can someone tell me how to downgrade the urw fonts without using the rpm --force option? I tried running this command: rpm -Uvh ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/2/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpmBut I was told I already have a newer version (duh).Should I uninstall the urw-fonts package I have now, and then reinstall the one shown above?Thanks! On Apr 6, 2005 4:28 AM, Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 15:08 -0400, David Blackwell wrote: rpm --upgrade --force blahblah.rpmNEVER do this.Really, I mean *never*.You tend to permanently louseup your rpm dependencies database if you --force installs/updates.--oldpackage is the right way to go to a lower version - and remember toexclude the package (yum) or pin it (apt) to prevent the package comingback again.Nigel.--[ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ]___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Apr 6, 2005 4:28 AM, *Nigel Metheringham* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 15:08 -0400, David Blackwell wrote: rpm --upgrade --force blahblah.rpm NEVER do this. Really, I mean *never*. You tend to permanently louse up your rpm dependencies database if you --force installs/updates. there are times when this is useful/neccessary, however you should definitely stay away if possible ... ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Thursday 07 April 2005 16:21, Larry K wrote: Can someone tell me how to downgrade the urw fonts without using the rpm --force option? I tried running this command: rpm -Uvh ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/2/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/urw-fonts-2.1-7.n oarch.rpm But I was told I already have a newer version (duh). Should I uninstall the urw-fonts package I have now, and then reinstall the one shown above? rpm -Uvh --oldpackage urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpm -- Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got a question? Read this first... http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html MythTV, Fedora Core ATrpms documentation: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/ MythTV Searchable Mailing List Archive http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ pgpFkvW1CANRv.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
Thanks, Jarod. :)On Apr 7, 2005 8:36 PM, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Thursday 07 April 2005 16:21, Larry K wrote: Can someone tell me how to downgrade the urw fonts without using the rpm --force option? I tried running this command: rpm -Uvh ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/2/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpm But I was told I already have a newer version (duh).Should I uninstall the urw-fonts package I have now, and then reinstall the one shown above?rpm -Uvh --oldpackage urw-fonts-2.1-7.noarch.rpm--Jarod Wilson[EMAIL PROTECTED]Got a question? Read this first... http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.htmlMythTV, Fedora Core ATrpms documentation: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/MythTV Searchable Mailing List Archive http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Too helpful... was Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
Jarod Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 14:14, Dan Littlejohn wrote: Maybe a third list should get created - mythtv-newbie The big problem with a -newbie list is this: who's going to answer the questions? Its kinda like the blind leading the blind. I think Isaac is on the money: people need to read before posting. I don't suggest reading all your Myth email before posting (because there's a lot), but everyone, please search the mailing list archive before posting! That should head off things like 100 different Qt-highlighted-button threads. Another problem (IMHO) is that too many people are _too_ helpful :) Newbies come along and ask questions - often spending more time typing an email than typing a few words into google. [They're not malicious - they're usually unaware of how powerful searching is - or sometimes just plain lazy] And then someone answers them - and they learn how to use this new search engine (which we call a mailing list) which, wonder of wonders, understands vague woolly questions, asks for clarification and eventually spits out the right answer. So maybe when newbies post we should *all* refrain from helping and, to bend a saying, teach them to fish instead. David PS I'm guilty too - and I'm not suggesting facism, just some guidance so newbies can be more self supporting. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
FAQ: Was Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
Michael Carland wrote: I know I have a hard time keeping up on this list. I also have a hard time doing the google thang with some topics about Myth, probably because there is so much content, you really have to know *exactly* what you are searching for to get any relevant info. For example, I was trying to get MythWeather animation working. My first attemps at google found many posts about people doing it, but little detail. Even when I new I needed to have a WeatherWantAnimated setting somewhere, my first search for mythweather and weatherwantanimated had no hits on where to stuff that setting. I had to really tweak my search to find the sql I was looking for. I then added an entry to the mythtv.info FAQ list with the info. I saw - thanks :) That was what the wiki was intended for - condensing many posts into a few lines of concentrated goodness. Before I read this part of this thread, I was thinking of adding one topic per day to the FAQ, as my time allows, with the most repeated question on the list lately. Well, the most common question that I understand the answer enough to write up. Today I did the MythWeather w3.weather.com and animated radar question. Not that it is posted that much, but because I just did it. I hope the FAQ info on mythtv.info is still being integrated into the real FAQ. It's not yet - there's work underway to integrate it but it's stalled for a time. Would it be worth my time to reorganize the FAQ, is this already being worked on, or is there a more current source of info that is being updated that I am not aware of? I wouldn't yet. But it *is* worth starting a new page called FAQ Suggestions or similar. David ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 15:08 -0400, David Blackwell wrote: rpm --upgrade --force blahblah.rpm NEVER do this. Really, I mean *never*. You tend to permanently louse up your rpm dependencies database if you --force installs/updates. --oldpackage is the right way to go to a lower version - and remember to exclude the package (yum) or pin it (apt) to prevent the package coming back again. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
Just wondering if this is commonly known, or if a fix for this is known. On .17 and FC3 the enter to press highlighted button ( eg, in mythtvsetup ) does not work anymore. Can anyone shed some light on this? Mark This message was sent using OnNow Hosting Webmail. Hosting and email starting at $4.99/mo http://www.onnow.net ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
I have the same issue that is preventing me from configuring a new host. Any ideas welcome here too. Greg On Apr 5, 2005 4:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if this is commonly known, or if a fix for this is known. On .17 and FC3 the enter to press highlighted button ( eg, in mythtvsetup ) does not work anymore. Can anyone shed some light on this? Mark This message was sent using OnNow Hosting Webmail. Hosting and email starting at $4.99/mo http://www.onnow.net ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Apr 5, 2005 11:50 AM, Greg Cope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 5, 2005 4:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if this is commonly known, or if a fix for this is known. On .17 and FC3 the enter to press highlighted button ( eg, in mythtvsetup ) does not work anymore. Can anyone shed some light on this? I have the same issue that is preventing me from configuring a new host. Any ideas welcome here too. I've got the same issue I have not investigated much since I use VNC to configure my backend. Using VNC you can use the mouse to click. ;) cyth PS: Top posting is bad. I know, I use to do it. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
This is exactly where I am as well. Need to configure a new host. You can use the ctrl-f ( or ctrl what ever ) keys BTW to get around it. Mark Quoting Greg Cope [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have the same issue that is preventing me from configuring a new host. Any ideas welcome here too. Greg On Apr 5, 2005 4:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if this is commonly known, or if a fix for this is known. On .17 and FC3 the enter to press highlighted button ( eg, in mythtvsetup ) does not work anymore. Can anyone shed some light on this? Mark This message was sent using OnNow Hosting Webmail. Hosting and email starting at $4.99/mo http://www.onnow.net ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users This message was sent using OnNow Hosting Webmail. Hosting and email starting at $4.99/mo http://www.onnow.net ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 5, 2005 11:50 AM, Greg Cope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 5, 2005 4:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if this is commonly known, or if a fix for this is known. On .17 and FC3 the enter to press highlighted button ( eg, in mythtvsetup ) does not work anymore. Can anyone shed some light on this? I have the same issue that is preventing me from configuring a new host. Any ideas welcome here too. I've got the same issue I have not investigated much since I use VNC to configure my backend. Using VNC you can use the mouse to click. ;) cyth PS: Top posting is bad. I know, I use to do it. ___ If you are using qt-3.3.4-5.x.x, revert to qt-3.3.4.2.0.2 and the problem will go away. -- Michael J. Lynch What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about -- author unknown ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:47 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if this is commonly known, or if a fix for this is known. On .17 and FC3 the enter to press highlighted button ( eg, in mythtvsetup ) does not work anymore. Can anyone shed some light on this? It doesn't seem to be a stock 3.3.4 problem - I do not have this issue with 3.3.4 on Debian. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 10:54 -0500, Michael J. Lynch wrote: If you are using qt-3.3.4-5.x.x, revert to qt-3.3.4.2.0.2 and the problem will go away. Sure seems to be a whole lotta reverting going on to get myth to go. IIRC there is some fonts package(s) you gotta revert to on FC, and now _two_ reasons to revert QT. Are non-backward changes being made to libraries that myth is not keeping up with, or are these cases of broken releases being made and not being fixed? The latter seems suspicious. On the QT issue of most recent -- the DST handling, is there an open bug at Trolltech on this issue? Are they even aware of it? b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Apr 5, 2005 12:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if this is commonly known, or if a fix for this is known. On .17 and FC3 the enter to press highlighted button ( eg, in mythtvsetup ) does not work anymore. Can anyone shed some light on this? I can't vouch that this will work on every setup, but on mine, if I use alt-enter, it works. -- Ben Steeves _[EMAIL PROTECTED] The ASCII ribbon campaign ( )[EMAIL PROTECTED] against HTML e-mail XGPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/bcs / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
I looked at reversing a few upgrades, but this becomes a headache as I was following Jarod's guide and using atrpms. is Alex from atrpms lisening? Greg If you are using qt-3.3.4-5.x.x, revert to qt-3.3.4.2.0.2 and the problem will go away. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 12:32 -0400, Isaac Richards wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 12:00 pm, Brian J. Murrell wrote: Sure seems to be a whole lotta reverting going on to get myth to go. IIRC there is some fonts package(s) you gotta revert to on FC, and now _two_ reasons to revert QT. No idea on the font package issue. URW fonts IIRC. Maybe I don't. For the Qt issues, I think the button problem is local to Fedora. It's certainly not happening with 3.3.4 in Debian, and I really don't know what it could be. Hrm. Interesting. Well, their release notes state that the DST change is a 'fix'. I'd disagree with that, as it changes behavior that's existed for years, and seems to ignore what their docs say is how things work. OK. So we could classify it as a non-backward compatible API change. In a message yesterday did you not say that with the fix that is in CVS this will be a problem again in the fall when North America rolls their clocks back an hour or did I misunderstand that? If myth cannot code around whatever the issue is such that it works spring and fall, surely other projects must be having the same problems, no? b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 12:42 pm, Brian J. Murrell wrote: OK. So we could classify it as a non-backward compatible API change. In a message yesterday did you not say that with the fix that is in CVS this will be a problem again in the fall when North America rolls their clocks back an hour or did I misunderstand that? Yeah, that was sarcasm. =) The fix I put into CVS will work forever unless they make another API change in Qt. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 12:57 -0400, Isaac Richards wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 12:42 pm, Brian J. Murrell wrote: OK. So we could classify it as a non-backward compatible API change. In a message yesterday did you not say that with the fix that is in CVS this will be a problem again in the fall when North America rolls their clocks back an hour or did I misunderstand that? Yeah, that was sarcasm. =) Heh. Went right over my head. I didn't see the actual commit though, so it was probably out of context for me. The fix I put into CVS will work forever unless they make another API change in Qt. Nice. Thanx! I will see if I can convince Thac to roll a 0.17_qt_blowed_it_up_real_good interim package for Mandrake. Is there a viewcvs kind of I/F for mythtv anywhere so I can pinpoint him to the actual patch? b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 01:01 pm, Brian J. Murrell wrote: I will see if I can convince Thac to roll a 0.17_qt_blowed_it_up_real_good interim package for Mandrake. Is there a viewcvs kind of I/F for mythtv anywhere so I can pinpoint him to the actual patch? http://cvs.mythtv.org I wouldn't bother if it's going to take more than a few hours, though. I want to put out 0.18 this coming weekend. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
Quick question. How do you revert and rpm backwards? rpm -ivh will not do it Thoughts? Quoting Michael J. Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 5, 2005 11:50 AM, Greg Cope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 5, 2005 4:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if this is commonly known, or if a fix for this is known. On .17 and FC3 the enter to press highlighted button ( eg, in mythtvsetup ) does not work anymore. Can anyone shed some light on this? I have the same issue that is preventing me from configuring a new host. Any ideas welcome here too. I've got the same issue I have not investigated much since I use VNC to configure my backend. Using VNC you can use the mouse to click. ;) cyth PS: Top posting is bad. I know, I use to do it. ___ If you are using qt-3.3.4-5.x.x, revert to qt-3.3.4.2.0.2 and the problem will go away. -- Michael J. Lynch What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about -- author unknown This message was sent using OnNow Hosting Webmail. Hosting and email starting at $4.99/mo http://www.onnow.net ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 13:02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question. How do you revert and rpm backwards? rpm -ivh will not do it Even though it's OT: rpm -Uvh --oldpackage b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
I might be crazy, but for me Enter fails and Alt + Enter works. Anyone else? william -Original Message- From: Isaac Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:32 PM To: Discussion about mythtv Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons On Tuesday 05 April 2005 12:00 pm, Brian J. Murrell wrote: Sure seems to be a whole lotta reverting going on to get myth to go. IIRC there is some fonts package(s) you gotta revert to on FC, and now _two_ reasons to revert QT. No idea on the font package issue. Are non-backward changes being made to libraries that myth is not keeping up with, or are these cases of broken releases being made and not being fixed? The latter seems suspicious. For the Qt issues, I think the button problem is local to Fedora. It's certainly not happening with 3.3.4 in Debian, and I really don't know what it could be. On the QT issue of most recent -- the DST handling, is there an open bug at Trolltech on this issue? Are they even aware of it? Well, their release notes state that the DST change is a 'fix'. I'd disagree with that, as it changes behavior that's existed for years, and seems to ignore what their docs say is how things work. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
That gets this: package qt-3.3.4-5.0.3.kde (which is newer than qt-3.3.4-2.0.3.kde) is already installed Quoting Brian J. Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 13:02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question. How do you revert and rpm backwards? rpm -ivh will not do it Even though it's OT: rpm -Uvh --oldpackage b. This message was sent using OnNow Hosting Webmail. Hosting and email starting at $4.99/mo http://www.onnow.net ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
rpm --upgrade --force blahblah.rpm On Apr 5, 2005 3:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That gets this: package qt-3.3.4-5.0.3.kde (which is newer than qt-3.3.4-2.0.3.kde) is already installed Quoting Brian J. Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 13:02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question. How do you revert and rpm backwards? rpm -ivh will not do it Even though it's OT: rpm -Uvh --oldpackage b. This message was sent using OnNow Hosting Webmail. Hosting and email starting at $4.99/mo http://www.onnow.net ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version:3.12 GCC/IT d++ s: a- C++ UALC P+ L E--- W+++ N o-- K? w O? M+(--) V? PS--- PE++ Y PGP t+++@ 5 X R- tv++ b+ DI++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
Isaac Richards wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 12:42 pm, Brian J. Murrell wrote: OK. So we could classify it as a non-backward compatible API change. In a message yesterday did you not say that with the fix that is in CVS this will be a problem again in the fall when North America rolls their clocks back an hour or did I misunderstand that? Yeah, that was sarcasm. =) The fix I put into CVS will work forever unless they make another API change in Qt. Does this mean that anything compiled from now onwards is going to require at least Qt 3.3.4? J ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 03:38 pm, Julian Edwards wrote: Isaac Richards wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 12:42 pm, Brian J. Murrell wrote: OK. So we could classify it as a non-backward compatible API change. In a message yesterday did you not say that with the fix that is in CVS this will be a problem again in the fall when North America rolls their clocks back an hour or did I misunderstand that? Yeah, that was sarcasm. =) The fix I put into CVS will work forever unless they make another API change in Qt. Does this mean that anything compiled from now onwards is going to require at least Qt 3.3.4? No. Geez, people, if you can't or don't want to read, don't join a mailing list. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 10:01, Brian J. Murrell wrote: I will see if I can convince Thac to roll a 0.17_qt_blowed_it_up_real_good interim package for Mandrake. Is there a viewcvs kind of I/F for mythtv anywhere so I can pinpoint him to the actual patch? I posted a back-ported patch to the list yesterday. -- Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got a question? Read this first... http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html MythTV, Fedora Core ATrpms documentation: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/ MythTV Searchable Mailing List Archive http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ pgp2xhtp0yC30.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
Isaac Richards wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 03:38 pm, Julian Edwards wrote: Isaac Richards wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 12:42 pm, Brian J. Murrell wrote: OK. So we could classify it as a non-backward compatible API change. In a message yesterday did you not say that with the fix that is in CVS this will be a problem again in the fall when North America rolls their clocks back an hour or did I misunderstand that? Yeah, that was sarcasm. =) The fix I put into CVS will work forever unless they make another API change in Qt. Does this mean that anything compiled from now onwards is going to require at least Qt 3.3.4? No. Geez, people, if you can't or don't want to read, don't join a mailing list. I'm sorry, perhaps I misunderstood the part above about non-backward compatible API change ? Ok, I just searched the archives and saw your post. I must have been over zealous with my thread deletion. J ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 12:03, Brian J. Murrell wrote: On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 13:02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question. How do you revert and rpm backwards? rpm -ivh will not do it Even though it's OT: rpm -Uvh --oldpackage Even better for FC3 users not using KDE Red Hat packages: # apt-get install qt=1:3.3.3-8 qt-MySQL=1:3.3.3-8 If you are using KDE Red Hat packages, I think this will suffice: # apt-get install qt=1:3.3.4-2.0.3.kde qt-MySQL=1:3.3.4-2.0.3.kde For both cases, you may also need to add qt-devel to the list, if you have it installed. The fact the older KDE Red Hat qt 3.3.4 works is additional evidence (to Isaac's working qt 3.3.4 on Debian) that the problem is a Red Hat patch to qt and not qt itself... Haven't looked into what exactly it is yet though. -- Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got a question? Read this first... http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html MythTV, Fedora Core ATrpms documentation: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/ MythTV Searchable Mailing List Archive http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ pgpG4gO0YR32Y.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 15:44 -0400, Isaac Richards wrote: No. Geez, people, if you can't or don't want to read, don't join a mailing list. All due respect Isaac but this is a very high volume list, and what makes it worse is that the S:N ratio is not really that good. There is, IMHO, much too much how do i install an rpm, how do i set up a cron job, how do i reboot my system kind of completely off-mythtv-topic threads that people should be taking elsewhere. I'm not surprised some people miss out some of the good tidbits amongst all of the deleting. But on the other hand, yes, too much not-searching-before-you-post goes on too. I guess everyone is lazy. :-) b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 04:33 pm, Brian J. Murrell wrote: On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 15:44 -0400, Isaac Richards wrote: No. Geez, people, if you can't or don't want to read, don't join a mailing list. All due respect Isaac but this is a very high volume list, and what makes it worse is that the S:N ratio is not really that good. There is, IMHO, much too much how do i install an rpm, how do i set up a cron job, how do i reboot my system kind of completely off-mythtv-topic threads that people should be taking elsewhere. I'm not surprised some people miss out some of the good tidbits amongst all of the deleting. But on the other hand, yes, too much not-searching-before-you-post goes on too. I guess everyone is lazy. :-) Right. It wouldn't be quite so high volume if people would bother to read before posting. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
Maybe a third list should get created - mythtv-newbie Then folks would not be afraid to ask I have no idea how to do this / off topic questions without shame. This would help the community by helping newbies learn how to fix their boxes and people could be directed off this list there that ask those questions. I know I myself would use it. There are other lists, but people know stuff here and that is gold. Dan On Apr 5, 2005 3:35 PM, Isaac Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 04:33 pm, Brian J. Murrell wrote: On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 15:44 -0400, Isaac Richards wrote: No. Geez, people, if you can't or don't want to read, don't join a mailing list. All due respect Isaac but this is a very high volume list, and what makes it worse is that the S:N ratio is not really that good. There is, IMHO, much too much how do i install an rpm, how do i set up a cron job, how do i reboot my system kind of completely off-mythtv-topic threads that people should be taking elsewhere. I'm not surprised some people miss out some of the good tidbits amongst all of the deleting. But on the other hand, yes, too much not-searching-before-you-post goes on too. I guess everyone is lazy. :-) Right. It wouldn't be quite so high volume if people would bother to read before posting. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Apr 5, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Jarod Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 14:14, Dan Littlejohn wrote: Maybe a third list should get created - mythtv-newbie Then folks would not be afraid to ask I have no idea how to do this / off topic questions without shame. This would help the community by helping newbies learn how to fix their boxes and people could be directed off this list there that ask those questions. I know I myself would use it. There are other lists, but people know stuff here and that is gold. The big problem with a -newbie list is this: who's going to answer the questions? Its kinda like the blind leading the blind. I think Isaac is on the money: people need to read before posting. I don't suggest reading all your Myth email before posting (because there's a lot), but everyone, please search the mailing list archive before posting! That should head off things like 100 different Qt-highlighted-button threads. I know I have a hard time keeping up on this list. I also have a hard time doing the google thang with some topics about Myth, probably because there is so much content, you really have to know *exactly* what you are searching for to get any relevant info. For example, I was trying to get MythWeather animation working. My first attemps at google found many posts about people doing it, but little detail. Even when I new I needed to have a WeatherWantAnimated setting somewhere, my first search for mythweather and weatherwantanimated had no hits on where to stuff that setting. I had to really tweak my search to find the sql I was looking for. I then added an entry to the mythtv.info FAQ list with the info. Before I read this part of this thread, I was thinking of adding one topic per day to the FAQ, as my time allows, with the most repeated question on the list lately. Well, the most common question that I understand the answer enough to write up. Today I did the MythWeather w3.weather.com and animated radar question. Not that it is posted that much, but because I just did it. I hope the FAQ info on mythtv.info is still being integrated into the real FAQ. I also think the current FAQ is more like an install guide than an FAQ, with the main topic being mostly installation steps, and all the problems listed in no particular order in the Troubleshooting section. Would it be worth my time to reorganize the FAQ, is this already being worked on, or is there a more current source of info that is being updated that I am not aware of? -Michael ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Apr 5, 2005 3:33 PM, Brian J. Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But on the other hand, yes, too much not-searching-before-you-post goes on too. I guess everyone is lazy. :-) Someday day, I'm going to relearn the little programming I once knew, and make a mailing list program, that when someone sends a message to the list, program scans the email for keywords, searches the archives, then sends the original an email that asks if any of the archive search results answers the question, if not, please confim to actually send the message to the list. That is my dream mailing list. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
Someday day, I'm going to relearn the little programming I once knew, and make a mailing list program, that when someone sends a message to the list, program scans the email for keywords, searches the archives, then sends the original an email that asks if any of the archive search results answers the question, if not, please confim to actually send the message to the list. That is my dream mailing list. Wandering OT here, but you'd have to be careful that the list software had a Cut-off time, otherwise old and defunct advice would be given that could cause problems (Like forcing to a specific version of a library which at the time was new, but now would break the whole kit and kaboodle) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] QT 3.3.4 and highlighted buttons
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 15:34, Michael Carland wrote: On Apr 5, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Jarod Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 14:14, Dan Littlejohn wrote: Maybe a third list should get created - mythtv-newbie Then folks would not be afraid to ask I have no idea how to do this / off topic questions without shame. This would help the community by helping newbies learn how to fix their boxes and people could be directed off this list there that ask those questions. I know I myself would use it. There are other lists, but people know stuff here and that is gold. The big problem with a -newbie list is this: who's going to answer the questions? Its kinda like the blind leading the blind. I think Isaac is on the money: people need to read before posting. I don't suggest reading all your Myth email before posting (because there's a lot), but everyone, please search the mailing list archive before posting! That should head off things like 100 different Qt-highlighted-button threads. I know I have a hard time keeping up on this list. I also have a hard time doing the google thang with some topics about Myth, probably because there is so much content, you really have to know *exactly* what you are searching for to get any relevant info. No you don't. You have to know the right place to look. Don't start with Google, start with the mailing list archive. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ Search for specific text, or browse by thread. If its something that just happened on your system, chances are you won't have to dig back very far to find useful info, even if you don't know exactly what to search for. [...] Would it be worth my time to reorganize the FAQ, is this already being worked on, or is there a more current source of info that is being updated that I am not aware of? I don't know any details about said FAQ, but I think its worthwhile if people will actually read it. Its sort of a catch-22 though, unless its in huge red letters on every page of mythtv.org (and even then, some folks would manage to miss it). Here's a proposed first item for the FAQ: Q: What if I have a problem? A: First up, read the official documentation at mythtv.org. If you've already read it, read it again. Then read this FAQ list. Now, search the mailing list archives at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/. If you still haven't found your answer, visit mythtv.info and poke around. After that, try Google. If you still don't see anything, read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html, after which it is probably safe to take your issue to the mythtv-users mailing list. :-) -- Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got a question? Read this first... http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html MythTV, Fedora Core ATrpms documentation: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/ MythTV Searchable Mailing List Archive http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ pgpI0Q8jhALBt.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
