Re: Superfast internet may replace world wide web
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Bill Woodcock wrote: On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Glen Kent wrote: says the solemn headline of Telegraph. .. and we in Nanog are still discussing IPv6! ;-) It's because we don't have a hadron demolition derby to power our American interwebs: The power of the grid will be unlocked this summer with the switching on of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC). http://xkcd.com/401/ -Bill
Re: Does TCP Need an Overhaul? (internetevolution, via slashdot)
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for sharing your test results Kevin. Most interesting. I am setting up a small test lab of a couple linux boxes myself to learn more about the various traffic shaping and TCP stack options. Ill post my results here. I am primarily interested in local wireless network performance optimization vs long haul connects at least for now. Anyone out there attend this event? The Future of TCP: Train-wreck or Evolution? http://yuba.stanford.edu/trainwreck/agenda.html how did the demos go? - Lucy It would be interesting to see how the numbers change with a windows or linux box on one end and BSD on the other. Also how did you simulate packet loss? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
IETF Journal Announcement (fwd)
All - Forwarded on Mirjam's behalf. Aside: If you find the Thaler/Aboba article on protocol success interesting you might also want to check out the plenary slides from the last IETF: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/07dec/slides/plenaryt-1.pdf - Lucy -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:55:40 +0100 Subject: IETF Journal Announcement Hello, The new issue of the IETF Journal - Volume 3, Issue 3 - is now available at http://ietfjournal.isoc.org This issue's main focus is Security and Unwanted Traffic. Please also note the previous issue (Volume 3, Issue 2) which covered many topics related to IPv6. You can read this publication online or choose to download the full issue in PDF format. You can also keep up to date with the latest issue of the IETF Journal by subscribing to one of our RSS or Atom feeds. For comments or suggestions, please do not hesiate to contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne Internet Society (ISOC)
Re: v6 gluelessness
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008, Randy Bush wrote: It's the same process that is used to update a delegation in the root zone. For ccTLDs I believe there's some kind of web portal to allow such changes to be requested, but my experience is that the old text form also still works just fine. i actually spent 20 minutes on the iana web site. admittedly that was far to little time to navigate and appreciate the plethora of papers and declarations on this and that. i finally sent off an email, but have no response, yet. i have hope, as the team there now is pretty good. it's probably just my lack of talent at navigating that much layer = 9 paper. they need a link on the entry page saying old ops folk go here. I've done this a number of times over the past few years and have not had any problems. send url. how about a pdf and a txt link? get: http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-template.txt modify and mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as per: http://beta.iana.org/about/presentations/sarras-dubai-procedures-061120.pdf I don't know what the process is for getting IPv6 addresses associated with host records in the VGRS COM/NET registry, but it seems like good information to share here if you find a definitive answer. i will. i am trying to document ops processes for v6 in my feeble way, doing it in a blog-like fashion. e.g. for the sage of doing it at one small set of servers see http://rip.psg.com/~randy/ipv6-westin.html. more clues would be appreciated. i am hoping all this will seem trite and passe in six months or so. but if we can not find a way to get glue added to gTLDs such as the com zone, we have a *serious* impediment to v6 deployment that needs to be fixed quickly. randy
Re: Oregon storms affect trans-pacific traffic
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Lynda wrote: Mark Newton wrote: On 05/12/2007, at 9:29 AM, John Savageau wrote: If there is anything we at One Wilshire can do to assist any network ... SCCN have carried out a temporary repair, and services are now restored (ours are, in any case -- Two of our six unprotected STM-4's on SCCN were affected by this, but they're now back) Sounds like things are pretty bad at Portland, Oregon. Repair took over 24 hours because flooding prevented the splicing crews from getting to the worksite. Ouch. Normally I'd be quiet, but realize that not all news travels, even when it's bad. I don't know whether it's been restored, but last I heard, traffic on I-5 between Portland and Seattle was completely cut off, and traffic was being routed through Yakima (making a 3 hour trip into a 7 hour trip). Oregon is very hard hit. Here's the Washington map; it's bad enough here. http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/traffic/ http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/traffic/trafficalerts/ Lynda - things are grim on the oregon coast: http://www.tripcheck.com/ Lincoln City camaras are off line, but Florence and Newport give you some idea... - Lucy
Re: Question for Lucy Lynch, SC Candidate
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Martin Hannigan wrote: Lucy, What is your opinion on Randy Bush's latest post to the NANOG List? He appears to be teasing me... I guess I can take it. Best, Martin
Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, David Lesher wrote: Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/03/really-bad-wiring-jobs_20.html My contribution: http://www.tux.org/wb8foz/66-666/ Note this was the closet at a group on the Hill that lobbies against the evils of regulation. In 25-30 years of working in/around wire closets, it's the worst I've seen. There are not one but 2 fiber hubs in that mess. Not seen are switches/hubs hanging from above on loops of duct tape. http://www.tux.org/wb8foz/66-666/a.jpg ah, security through obscurity, a time honored strategy! - lucy
Re: IPv6 Training?
On Thu, 31 May 2007, William F. Maton Sotomayor wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007, Alex Rubenstein wrote: Does anyone know of any good IPv6 training resources (classroom, or self-guided)? Looking to send several 1st and 2nd tier guys, for some platform/vendor-agnostic training. Internet2 people have been running workshops on multicast and IPv6 separately. http://ipv6.internet2.edu/ Any clues? Thanks.. -- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, [EMAIL PROTECTED], latency, Al Reuben Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net wfms
Re: meeting in the Dominican Republic
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Cat Okita wrote: On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Lucy Lynch wrote: I'd have a much easier time getting them to let me go to LA or SF, simply because they aren't pervceived as prime vacation destinations, beaches and all. No beaches in Santo Domingo (beaches in LA and SF, however) Are we thinking of the same place? http://www.webcarhire.com/dominican-rep-car-hire/santodomingo-car-rental.htm yep - car rental - its quite a drive to the nearest beach (I'm aware that there are beaches in LA and SF - but most corporate travel folk don't think SF == beaches the way they think caribbean == beaches ... LA - not so much either ;) cheers! == A cat spends her life conflicted between a deep, passionate and profound desire for fish and an equally deep, passionate and profound desire to avoid getting wet. This is the defining metaphor of my life right now.
Re: How do you quantify goodness in an email message?
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: In another message, William B. Norton wrote: I wish we had a metric for the community value of the nanog list. I think that if the mailing list was moved from merit to its own server, and out from under the tyranny of majordomo to mailman, that you'd be shocked at the number of people who find the list valuable. Mailman's subscriber page, as you know, allows you to see the list of members, including offering up the metric of hidden members (i.e.those who don't want their email address displayed in that list). Majordomo will let you do this as well, it's an owner config option, and at some point in the past members could who the list. I think there were issues with address harvesting. Statistics (http://www.nanog.org/liststats.html) tell us how many people are on the list, and it is significant. This tells us it has an intrinsic value (rather than just a value to the top 40 or 50 posters).
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and hard to read... http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf adhoc allocation taken to it's limits?
Re: messy
ack ___ Lucy E. Lynch | llynch @civil-tongue.net | llynch on jabber.org On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Lucy Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and hard to read... http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf adhoc allocation taken to it's limits? different frequencies of RF have different performance characteristics. unlike ip addresses, a 1 mhz allocation at 180 mhz and a 1 mhz allocation at 6.5 ghz are not fungible. ---rob
Re: Google wants to be your Internet
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Jan 20, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Alexander Harrowell wrote: Marshall wrote: Those sorts of percentages are common in Pareto distributions (AKA Zipf's law AKA the 80-20 rule). With the Zipf's exponent typical of web usage and video watching, I would predict something closer to 10% of the users consuming 50% of the usage, but this estimate is not that unrealistic. I would predict that these sorts of distributions will continue as long as humans are the primary consumers of bandwidth. Regards Marshall That's until the spambots inherit the world, right? I tend to take the long view. sensor nets anyone? research http://research.cens.ucla.edu/portal/page?_pageid=59,43783_dad=portal_schema=PORTAL business http://www.campbellsci.com/bridge-monitoring investment http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=184400339 global alerts? disaster management? physical world traffic engineering?
Re: Reasons for attendance drop off
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Joe Abley wrote: On 30-Nov-2006, at 17:15, Betty Burke wrote: We should all remember though... the Top 10, including Chicago, will be a bit more expensive, hotel contracts, and room rates to all of you. I wonder whether we're looking at this the wrong way round. Given that the primary cost to host a meeting is connectivity, how about starting with a call for ISPs and carriers who have a local loop already present in a NANOG-sized hotel, and are willing to commit to light it and provide transit for a meeting every year for the next N years? That sounds like a better basis for choosing a hotel than how many airlines have hangar space within taxi distance of the ballroom. don't forget metro fiber - we lit the Eugene Hilton last time with city fiber and UO transit. lots of options if you've got bits. Joe
