Re: Brocade XMR/MLX VLAN bit counters (Cacti graphs for brocade VLANS) (95% billing).

2013-01-14 Thread Steven Noble
I saw the same issue for getting OpenFlow stats, you need the new 8x10 or 100GE 
cards afaict.

On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Jeroen Wunnink | Atrato IP Networks 
 wrote:

> Sneaky hack: Slap an in+out rate limit on the vlan with high settings (i.e. 
> same as port/lag speed) and just graph the OID of the rate limit counter :-)
> Might need to take a multiplier calculation/CDEF into account based on the 
> number of ports you have in the lag.
> 
> The new 8x10 cards have built in ve counters indeed which makes it a lot 
> easier
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/14/13 5:37 PM, Erik Muller wrote:
>> On 1/14/13 9:00 , James Wininger wrote:
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it difficult 
>>> to to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across a tagged (trunk) 
>>> interface. On Cisco this is not an issue. So what we end up with in Cacti 
>>> is a blank (no data) graph.
>> 
>> Depending on the specific hardware you're using, you may be out of luck - 
>> early generations of MLX/XMR line cards don't support per-vlan statistics; 
>> you need to have the new 8x10GE cards (or a few others of the current 
>> generation) to have those counters available.
>> 
>> -e
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Jeroen Wunnink
> Network Engineer
> Atrato IP Networks
> jeroen.wunn...@atrato-ip.com
> Phone: +31 20 82 00 623
> 
> 




Re: Brocade XMR/MLX VLAN bit counters (Cacti graphs for brocade VLANS) (95% billing).

2013-01-14 Thread Jeroen Wunnink | Atrato IP Networks
Sneaky hack: Slap an in+out rate limit on the vlan with high settings 
(i.e. same as port/lag speed) and just graph the OID of the rate limit 
counter :-)
Might need to take a multiplier calculation/CDEF into account based on 
the number of ports you have in the lag.


The new 8x10 cards have built in ve counters indeed which makes it a lot 
easier




On 1/14/13 5:37 PM, Erik Muller wrote:

On 1/14/13 9:00 , James Wininger wrote:

All,

We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it 
difficult to to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across a 
tagged (trunk) interface. On Cisco this is not an issue. So what we 
end up with in Cacti is a blank (no data) graph.


Depending on the specific hardware you're using, you may be out of 
luck - early generations of MLX/XMR line cards don't support per-vlan 
statistics; you need to have the new 8x10GE cards (or a few others of 
the current generation) to have those counters available.


-e




--

Jeroen Wunnink
Network Engineer
Atrato IP Networks
jeroen.wunn...@atrato-ip.com
Phone: +31 20 82 00 623




Re: Brocade XMR/MLX VLAN bit counters (Cacti graphs for brocade VLANS) (95% billing).

2013-01-14 Thread Erik Muller

On 1/14/13 9:00 , James Wininger wrote:

All,

We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it difficult to 
to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across a tagged (trunk) interface. 
On Cisco this is not an issue. So what we end up with in Cacti is a blank (no 
data) graph.


Depending on the specific hardware you're using, you may be out of luck - 
early generations of MLX/XMR line cards don't support per-vlan statistics; 
you need to have the new 8x10GE cards (or a few others of the current 
generation) to have those counters available.


-e



Re: Brocade XMR/MLX VLAN bit counters (Cacti graphs for brocade VLANS) (95% billing).

2013-01-14 Thread JP Viljoen
On 14 Jan 2013, at 4:00 PM, James Wininger  wrote:
> All,
> 
> We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it difficult 
> to to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across a tagged (trunk) 
> interface. On Cisco this is not an issue. So what we end up with in Cacti is 
> a blank (no data) graph.
> 
> I have been all over these devices with snmpwalk etc (typical tool set). Has 
> anyone found a "fix" or work around for this? Or perhaps I should be asking a 
> different question….Is there a better tool/mindset for 95% billing since this 
> is what we are doing with this info.

I second Pui's suggestion for taking a look at Observium, it's got a vastly 
more NOC-friendly build than what Cacti's reigning philosophy appears to be. 
Might not be perfect for everyone, but certainly worth a bit of time to check 
out.

As for your Cacti problem, it's likely the 64-bit counters thing. Cacti's 
templates don't default to 64-bit counters.

-J


Re: Brocade XMR/MLX VLAN bit counters (Cacti graphs for brocade VLANS) (95% billing).

2013-01-14 Thread Pui Edylie

Hi James,

We have been using Observium and never look back

http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page

Cheers,
Edy

On 1/14/2013 10:00 PM, James Wininger wrote:

All,

We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it difficult to 
to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across a tagged (trunk) interface. 
On Cisco this is not an issue. So what we end up with in Cacti is a blank (no 
data) graph.

I have been all over these devices with snmpwalk etc (typical tool set). Has anyone found 
a "fix" or work around for this? Or perhaps I should be asking a different 
question….Is there a better tool/mindset for 95% billing since this is what we are doing 
with this info.
--

Jim Wininger

"Don't find fault, find a remedy." - Henry Ford