Re: [neonixie-l] Re: NixiChron upgrade, new firmware, NixiChron style case...

2016-10-06 Thread Nick 
Yeah. But it won't work on Lord Howe Island. Showstopper, that !

Nick

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: NixiChron upgrade, new firmware, NixiChron style case...

2016-10-06 Thread Nicholas Stock 
Yeah, Pete got that right for sure...simple press when it's time and your
done

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Jeff Walton  wrote:

> DST can be a pain for any clock!
>
> Among the many clocks I've built or bought, the MOD-SIX clock seems to
> have the most complete DST tables for fully unattended time changes.   The
> manual one-button DST on clocks from PV Electronics are probably the most
> future proof AND are convenient to use with no manuals required.
>
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Charles MacDonald 
> Date: 10/6/16 7:12 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: NixiChron upgrade, new firmware, NixiChron
> style case...
>
> On 16-10-06 04:01 PM, David Forbes wrote:
> > Come to think of it, Jeff also lived in Arizona. Perhaps that's why he
> > didn't understand the subtleties of DST programming, since he never used
> > it!
>
> DST is also an Ongoing problem, I keep getting new versions of "tzdata"
> on my computer a couple of times a year
>
> More info at
> https://www.iana.org/time-zones
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: NixiChron upgrade, new firmware, NixiChron style case...

2016-10-06 Thread Jeff Walton 


DST can be a pain for any clock! 
Among the many clocks I've built or bought, the MOD-SIX clock seems to have the 
most complete DST tables for fully unattended time changes.   The manual 
one-button DST on clocks from PV Electronics are probably the most future proof 
AND are convenient to use with no manuals required.  



 Original message 
From: Charles MacDonald  
Date: 10/6/16  7:12 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: NixiChron upgrade, new firmware, NixiChron style 
case... 

On 16-10-06 04:01 PM, David Forbes wrote:
> Come to think of it, Jeff also lived in Arizona. Perhaps that's why he
> didn't understand the subtleties of DST programming, since he never used
> it!

DST is also an Ongoing problem, I keep getting new versions of "tzdata" 
on my computer a couple of times a year

More info at
https://www.iana.org/time-zones


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: NixiChron upgrade, new firmware, NixiChron style case...

2016-10-06 Thread Charles MacDonald 

On 16-10-06 04:01 PM, David Forbes wrote:

Come to think of it, Jeff also lived in Arizona. Perhaps that's why he
didn't understand the subtleties of DST programming, since he never used
it!


DST is also an Ongoing problem, I keep getting new versions of "tzdata" 
on my computer a couple of times a year


More info at
https://www.iana.org/time-zones


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: NixiChron upgrade, new firmware, NixiChron style case...

2016-10-06 Thread David Forbes 
Come to think of it, Jeff also lived in Arizona. Perhaps that's why he didn't 
understand the subtleties of DST programming, since he never used it!



On 10/6/2016 12:42 PM, David Forbes wrote:

Scott,

I think this is why I never bothered to implement DST on my products. Plus, I
live in Arizona, the one state in the USA that thinks that DST is a Communist 
plot.

On 10/6/2016 4:06 AM, Scott McInness wrote:

Hi Mitch,

You mention in the other thread that you have used a much more
traditional setup for DST - which will be a saviour in itself, as the
existing setup is terrible if your DST parameters have changed from
those that Jeff predefined (and southern hemisphere adds another level
of complication). Do you know if your board exhibits the same issue with
time zones east of UTC, where the clock emits a constant beep on 01
January from 00:00 until it reaches the time offset? I'm in South
Australia (so southern hemisphere, +9:30, with DST, making my offset
+10:30 for New Year), and my Nixichron beeps from 00:00 until 10:30
(and, from memory, only displays colons for the duration) - obviously
this means that I need to turn it off before 00:00 and can't turn it
back on until after 10:30. I assume it can't handle the fact that time
seemingly in error, however it would hardly be an issue if it just
handled the condition silently!

Thanks in advance,
Scott.






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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: NixiChron upgrade, new firmware, NixiChron style case...

2016-10-06 Thread David Forbes 

Scott,

I think this is why I never bothered to implement DST on my products. 
Plus, I live in Arizona, the one state in the USA that thinks that DST 
is a Communist plot.


On 10/6/2016 4:06 AM, Scott McInness wrote:

Hi Mitch,

You mention in the other thread that you have used a much more
traditional setup for DST - which will be a saviour in itself, as the
existing setup is terrible if your DST parameters have changed from
those that Jeff predefined (and southern hemisphere adds another level
of complication). Do you know if your board exhibits the same issue with
time zones east of UTC, where the clock emits a constant beep on 01
January from 00:00 until it reaches the time offset? I'm in South
Australia (so southern hemisphere, +9:30, with DST, making my offset
+10:30 for New Year), and my Nixichron beeps from 00:00 until 10:30
(and, from memory, only displays colons for the duration) - obviously
this means that I need to turn it off before 00:00 and can't turn it
back on until after 10:30. I assume it can't handle the fact that time
seemingly in error, however it would hardly be an issue if it just
handled the condition silently!

Thanks in advance,
Scott.



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Re: [neonixie-l] Jeff Thomas Nixie Clock

2016-10-06 Thread Greg P 
John,

It truly is about as basic of a clock as you can get.  Yes, it's almost 
impossible to set the seconds accurately.  I'm sure it's why Jeff came out 
with his NixiSat/NixiChron/GPSII series of clocks which were a big 
improvement in features and functionality.  

I like it mostly because it was Jeff's first design and what started it all 
for his Nixie endeavors.

Greg



On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 2:37:45 AM UTC-4, Nixcited delighted wrote:
>
> I built one of these as my first clock and it was horrendous. It's almost 
> impossible to set the time with a magnet without overshooting. I found it 
> was better to split the hours and minutes, because otherwise if you 
> overshoot the minutes setting it clocks the hours on. 
>
> I also found the CMOS very sensitive to stray noise and would often find 
> the time had changed spontaneously. 
>
> John S 
>
>
> On 6 Oct 2016, at 02:30, David Forbes wrote: 
>
> > Greg. 
> > 
> > See the bottom of the Harris clock page 
> > 
> > http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/nixclock.html#ready 
> > 
> > to see the seconds display and time-setting option described. 
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: NixiChron upgrade, new firmware, NixiChron style case...

2016-10-06 Thread Scott McInness 
Hi Mitch,
I'd be interested in one of your boards for the Nixichron, if you still 
have any left.

You mention in the other thread that you have used a much more traditional 
setup for DST - which will be a saviour in itself, as the existing setup is 
terrible if your DST parameters have changed from those that Jeff 
predefined (and southern hemisphere adds another level of complication). Do 
you know if your board exhibits the same issue with time zones east of UTC, 
where the clock emits a constant beep on 01 January from 00:00 until it 
reaches the time offset? I'm in South Australia (so southern hemisphere, 
+9:30, with DST, making my offset +10:30 for New Year), and my Nixichron 
beeps from 00:00 until 10:30 (and, from memory, only displays colons for 
the duration) - obviously this means that I need to turn it off before 
00:00 and can't turn it back on until after 10:30. I assume it can't handle 
the fact that time seemingly in error, however it would hardly be an issue 
if it just handled the condition silently!

Thanks in advance,
Scott.

On Wednesday, 5 October 2016 04:40:28 UTC+10:30, Mitch wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Only a few Nixichron upgrades are left. I have three ready to go, and a 
> few more boards to be assembled. I may order more toward the end of the 
> year, but it won't be an ongoing business, for sure.
>
> A new firmware release is ready. Some minor bugs were squashed, a few 
> options were added or changed, and most importantly, better tracking to the 
> GPS. I'll email the hex file to anyone who can flash it, or send the board 
> back and I'll do it for the cost of return shipping.
>
> Next project is a Nixichron style case. I know a manufacturer that has 
> large CNC machines and the owner said it would not be a problem to make the 
> cases. We'll see. Talk is cheap, but they've come through before. A sample 
> will be ready in a few weeks. If it goes well, I'll make a version of the 
> Zev clock for it in both six and eight digit configurations. I won't offer 
> kits, 
> probably just cases and boards. The MOQ on the cases will be 50-100 
> pieces. Again this will not be an ongoing business, just a one time thing 
> for fun.
>
> Mitch
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Jeff Thomas Nixie Clock

2016-10-06 Thread Quixotic Nixotic 
I built one of these as my first clock and it was horrendous. It's almost 
impossible to set the time with a magnet without overshooting. I found it was 
better to split the hours and minutes, because otherwise if you overshoot the 
minutes setting it clocks the hours on.

I also found the CMOS very sensitive to stray noise and would often find the 
time had changed spontaneously.

John S


On 6 Oct 2016, at 02:30, David Forbes wrote:

> Greg.
> 
> See the bottom of the Harris clock page
> 
> http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/nixclock.html#ready
> 
> to see the seconds display and time-setting option described.

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