Re: [neonixie-l] Jackpot!

[Mahdi Al Husseini]

Interested as well

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 8:58 PM Nicholas Stock  wrote:

> PM me, I’m interested...:-)
>
> Nick
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 23, 2019, at 18:55, martin martin  wrote:
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> There I was looking for some lost vacuum tubes to sell on the Bay and I
> found this box under my desk!  I used to consult for an aerospace company
> and they were going to toss these!
>
> I am presently building three very different Nixie clocks and more than
> enough to complete them and have spares.
>
> These are all NOS!
> Anyone need any?
>
> -martin
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[neonixie-l] Re: Jackpot!

[alex nolan]

I'm really interested as well, please DM me :)

Alex

On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 9:55:32 PM UTC-4, martin martin wrote:
>
> There I was looking for some lost vacuum tubes to sell on the Bay and I 
> found this box under my desk!  I used to consult for an aerospace company 
> and they were going to toss these!
>
> I am presently building three very different Nixie clocks and more than 
> enough to complete them and have spares.
>
> These are all NOS!
> Anyone need any?
>
> -martin
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Jackpot!

[Nicholas Stock]

PM me, I’m interested...:-)

Nick

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> On Apr 23, 2019, at 18:55, martin martin  wrote:
> 
> There I was looking for some lost vacuum tubes to sell on the Bay and I found 
> this box under my desk!  I used to consult for an aerospace company and they 
> were going to toss these!
> 
> I am presently building three very different Nixie clocks and more than 
> enough to complete them and have spares.
> 
> These are all NOS!
> Anyone need any?
> 
> -martin
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[neonixie-l] (12) 16-Pin NIXIE TUBES National Electronics NL5441A Burroughs B5441A Untested

[Bill Notfaded]

I've noticed that as well some have some silvering inside the tube... The weird 
thing is it doesn't seem to cover the digits... It's like it shows up on the 
sides?  I've seen other tubes where the entire inside is covered... Not even 
silver colored metal build up but more like darker color.

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[neonixie-l] Tube database?

[Bill Notfaded]

I like your website and tube pictures... It's been a great resource for me. 
This is you right?

http://www.swissnixie.com

I assumed it was by your handle.  I love your rate Nixie pics of stuff like the 
German elevator tubes!  Mega props brother!

Bill

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Re: [neonixie-l] (12) 16-Pin NIXIE TUBES National Electronics NL5441A Burroughs B5441A Untested

[Bill Notfaded]

Crazy I think mine are all A's they don't have a pulled off nipple on top.
I'll take some pictures when I get back to Arizona I'm in Colorado until
Thursday.  They have so many pins and tight next to each other I had hard
time testing them getting the pins from the tester on them.  One thing I do
like about them is the tight grid.  I was literally testing them this
weekend with Marcin's tube tester.  They make nice clear digits due to the
small grid.

Bill

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 7:29 PM Jeff Walton  wrote:

> It's the "A" designation that makes them more rare and valuable.  Over the
> last year, the 5441A round top versions have gone for $45-$60.  The plain
> 5441s with the evacuation nipple on top are $10-$15.  If you really have a
> bunch of 5441A tubes, you might discover that they will bring a nice price.
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[neonixie-l] (12) 16-Pin NIXIE TUBES National Electronics NL5441A Burroughs B5441A Untested

[Jeff Walton]

That last lot of 5441A were really used and some of them were really darkened. 
Probably came out of old test equipment that already had 10 or more years 
displaying the same numbers... 

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[neonixie-l] (12) 16-Pin NIXIE TUBES National Electronics NL5441A Burroughs B5441A Untested

[Jeff Walton]

It's the "A" designation that makes them more rare and valuable.  Over the last 
year, the 5441A round top versions have gone for $45-$60.  The plain 5441s with 
the evacuation nipple on top are $10-$15.  If you really have a bunch of 5441A 
tubes, you might discover that they will bring a nice price. 

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Socket for B5971 & B8971

['Phil' via neonixie-l]

I have a defective (glass and base intact, but outgassed) B8971 you can 
have. Will that help?

Phil Zucarelli

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[neonixie-l] (12) 16-Pin NIXIE TUBES National Electronics NL5441A Burroughs B5441A Untested

[Bill Notfaded]

I was wondering the same thing... I have a bunch of these tubes and they aren't 
anything special...  I'm glad I'm not the only one they was like huh???

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Re: [neonixie-l] Universal Nixie Tube Tester - pro version

[Bill Notfaded]

I've been using your other similar tester and it works great Marcin.  The new 
one looks just as nice and I'm looking forward to the 5971, 8971, and 7971 
modules!  I'm glad you snagged that last B-5971 tube... that was his last 
single. Now if I could get a couple multimeters like yours I'll be stylin'!  I 
wish I could have bought some like you when they cost less than 100$!

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Re: [neonixie-l] Universal Nixie Tube Tester - pro version

[Paul Andrews]

Well, really I meant the personal act of creation, not necessarily the end 
result, such as a specific artifact. I think this is really orthogonal to 
what you were saying about becoming obsessed with the tools, or in this 
case, the nixie tubes themselves.

Of course, I am also obsessed with the tubes themselves...

On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 4:46:38 PM UTC-4, Nixcited delighted wrote:
>
> On 23 Apr 2019, at 21:32, Paul Andrews > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Well for me, part of the artistry is creating a device like this. 
>
> The craftsmanship and technical prowess shown is without question. I think 
> we can all say that it is really excellent. I certainly admire the 
> dedication that has gone into it all. If you say this constitutes art, then 
> it is art, simply because you say it is. But if art is perhaps conscious 
> self-expression, then what is the art conveying exactly, according to the 
> artist, over and above the intent to test a range of nixies? 
>
> John S

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Re: [neonixie-l] Universal Nixie Tube Tester - pro version

[【ツ】John Smout]

On 23 Apr 2019, at 21:32, Paul Andrews  wrote:
> 
> Well for me, part of the artistry is creating a device like this. 

The craftsmanship and technical prowess shown is without question. I think we 
can all say that it is really excellent. I certainly admire the dedication that 
has gone into it all. If you say this constitutes art, then it is art, simply 
because you say it is. But if art is perhaps conscious self-expression, then 
what is the art conveying exactly, according to the artist, over and above the 
intent to test a range of nixies?

John S

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Re: [neonixie-l] Universal Nixie Tube Tester - pro version

[Paul Andrews]

Well for me, part of the artistry is creating a device like this. In my own 
case, I seem to have become obsessed with power supplies, having started 
out being obsessed with nixie clocks. I am finally determined to bring a 
six tube clock to life (I've done single tube clocks, four tube clocks, an 
ITS1A clock, segment tube clocks etc.). Naturally, I have started with the 
power supply, but I am determined to get past that phase. Currently I am 
doing battle with the ESP32. But I digress.

@Marcin, may I suggest adding a one-tube-clock function? Or perhaps a 3V3 
or 5V data-in function that would allow people to use your device on a 
daily basis? Perhaps in the next iteration of this product?

On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 3:57:43 PM UTC-4, Nixcited delighted wrote:
>
> I am going to be very very naughty here and perhaps play Devil’s advocate 
> if I may, for just a brief moment? Yes it is a wonderful project indeed, 
> the Universal Nixie Tube Tester - pro version™ - one to be admired greatly, 
> but I’ve seen similar things happen to people of all varieties, especially 
> photographers, painters and musicians. People start with an 
> emotional/artistic attraction to something. After a while they start 
> collecting associated kit for its own sake and instead of doing something 
> artistic with it, they spend more time messing with 
> collecting/cleaning/testing/calibrating/documenting than they do actually 
> making something with the stuff they collected. I think it’s a creative 
> trap, but maybe creativity is low on some people’s to do list and we need 
> all sorts of attitudes. 
>
> My question is, once you find your tubes are all in tip-top condition or 
> not, what do you intend to do with them next? 
>
> I shall now run and hide behind the sofa to avoid the incoming brown and 
> sticky that will interface with my round and twirly, but please take this 
> in the quasi-humorous spirit it was intended. 
>
> John S 
>
> > On 23 Apr 2019, at 20:03, Marcin Saj  > wrote: 
> > 
> > I would like to show off my new project. 
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Universal Nixie Tube Tester - pro version

['Ian Vine' via neonixie-l]

I think this piece has an artistic angle. I like it

> On 23 Apr 2019, at 20:57, 【ツ】John Smout  wrote:
> 
> I am going to be very very naughty here and perhaps play Devil’s advocate if 
> I may, for just a brief moment? Yes it is a wonderful project indeed, the 
> Universal Nixie Tube Tester - pro version™ - one to be admired greatly, but 
> I’ve seen similar things happen to people of all varieties, especially 
> photographers, painters and musicians. People start with an 
> emotional/artistic attraction to something. After a while they start 
> collecting associated kit for its own sake and instead of doing something 
> artistic with it, they spend more time messing with 
> collecting/cleaning/testing/calibrating/documenting than they do actually 
> making something with the stuff they collected. I think it’s a creative trap, 
> but maybe creativity is low on some people’s to do list and we need all sorts 
> of attitudes.
> 
> My question is, once you find your tubes are all in tip-top condition or not, 
> what do you intend to do with them next?
> 
> I shall now run and hide behind the sofa to avoid the incoming brown and 
> sticky that will interface with my round and twirly, but please take this in 
> the quasi-humorous spirit it was intended.
> 
> John S
> 
>> On 23 Apr 2019, at 20:03, Marcin Saj  wrote:
>> 
>> I would like to show off my new project.
> 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Universal Nixie Tube Tester - pro version

[【ツ】John Smout]

I am going to be very very naughty here and perhaps play Devil’s advocate if I 
may, for just a brief moment? Yes it is a wonderful project indeed, the 
Universal Nixie Tube Tester - pro version™ - one to be admired greatly, but 
I’ve seen similar things happen to people of all varieties, especially 
photographers, painters and musicians. People start with an emotional/artistic 
attraction to something. After a while they start collecting associated kit for 
its own sake and instead of doing something artistic with it, they spend more 
time messing with collecting/cleaning/testing/calibrating/documenting than they 
do actually making something with the stuff they collected. I think it’s a 
creative trap, but maybe creativity is low on some people’s to do list and we 
need all sorts of attitudes.

My question is, once you find your tubes are all in tip-top condition or not, 
what do you intend to do with them next?

I shall now run and hide behind the sofa to avoid the incoming brown and sticky 
that will interface with my round and twirly, but please take this in the 
quasi-humorous spirit it was intended.

John S

> On 23 Apr 2019, at 20:03, Marcin Saj  wrote:
> 
> I would like to show off my new project.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Universal Nixie Tube Tester - pro version

[Shaun Merrigan]

I’m in..

Shaun M

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No Regret


> On Apr 23, 2019, at 13:03, Marcin Saj  wrote:
> 
> I would like to show off my new project.
> This is a continuation of my recent projects based on universal sockets. This 
> version has the ability to remove cathode poisoning and one fancy feature - 
> autodetection of 13-15 segment tubes e.g. B5971, B7971, B8971. 
> Currently, there are 22 sockets with the tester but in the future I will have 
> a few more.
> I will not write here about the details because all information can be found 
> on the project website: https://igg.me/at/pro-nixietester
> 
> Short video presentation: https://youtu.be/RiADCWJbRWE
> 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 new for sale

['Grahame' via neonixie-l]

Sorry about that - I replied to the wrong email!

Just put is down to  you choose...


On Apr 23, 2019, at 08:13, 'Grahame' via neonixie-l 
mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


If is does it again then try the handset as well. The low level 
rotary code was running so the fault must have been at a higher level 
at which point it is sharing code with the handset.


When you get the console plugged in then try the ADC_ commands and 
tell me the range of raw ADC values from the LDR from dark t bright 
(just the ends).


Ran out of 2N7002 mosfets to day so building boards has stopped while 
I order more buggerit.


On 23/04/2019 15:54, neonixie-l wrote:
Not the point. Also, USD 45 is the going rate for 6 or more - have a 
look at eBay.com . Granted, this offer includes 
sockets, but again, that's not the point.


I have no objection with the occasional advert IF communication is 
off-list, but as a principle, sales are something that should be 
non-commodity.


Thanks

Nick
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[neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

[Tyler Bourne]

I would support this idea.  I can't do much on the functional side of 
things but I have skills with Photoshop and can make any site look nice.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 new for sale

['Grahame' via neonixie-l]

If is does it again then try the handset as well. The low level rotary 
code was running so the fault must have been at a higher level at which 
point it is sharing code with the handset.


When you get the console plugged in then try the ADC_ commands and tell 
me the range of raw ADC values from the LDR from dark t bright (just the 
ends).


Ran out of 2N7002 mosfets to day so building boards has stopped while I 
order more buggerit.


On 23/04/2019 15:54, neonixie-l wrote:
Not the point. Also, USD 45 is the going rate for 6 or more - have a 
look at eBay.com. Granted, this offer includes sockets, but again, 
that's not the point.


I have no objection with the occasional advert IF communication is 
off-list, but as a principle, sales are something that should be 
non-commodity.


Thanks

Nick
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 new for sale

[neonixie-l]

Not the point. Also, USD 45 is the going rate for 6 or more - have a look 
at eBay.com. Granted, this offer includes sockets, but again, that's not 
the point.

I have no objection with the occasional advert IF communication is 
off-list, but as a principle, sales are something that should be 
non-commodity.

Thanks

Nick

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 new for sale

[Adam Jacobs]

$45 each is the type of great price most folks wont mind hearing.  That's a
2005 price.  I'll contact off list, I've never bought in-18s but always
wanted some for a clock.   Side view nixies are silly expensive nowadays if
you don't already have boxes of them.
-w7qi

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 5:09 AM neonixie-l 
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> Small but important point - the group is not a general commercial
> marketplace - the occasional sale is fine but most folk subscribe to
> neonixie-l by email, and with over 1,000 members, most will be happy with
> exceptional items, but not commodity sales (we've had complaints in the
> past - they view it as unrequested SPAM)...
>
> Thanks for your understanding...
>
> Nick
>
> On Monday, 22 April 2019 18:25:12 UTC+1, Mrserj wrote:
>>
>> Sale:
>>
>> IN-18 - 25 pcs. for $45 each,
>> Sockets as gift.
>> Link to gallery: https://postimg.cc/gallery/14wxodfpa/
>>
>> Shipping: 10$ + 5$ (Registered Airmail with tracking)
>> Payment: PayPal
>>
>>
>> Click
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

['John Rehwinkel' via neonixie-l]

If it's stored as a table (spreadsheet style) or a database, it should be easy 
enough to export the data in a simple format such as CSV.  Backing up the CSV 
all over the place isn't difficult, and it could be imported into a variety of 
spreadsheet or database programs, or a search/mining utility could be written 
simply enough.

I used to do this sort of thing all the time in XML, but XML is probably 
overkill for this kind of data.

- John

> On Apr 23, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Nick  wrote:
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> I'm well aware of the risks of data loss - that's why the group is backed up 
> multiple ways.
> 
> The main reason for using a Google integrated solution is convenience - the 
> hosting is there and so is access control - e.g. the library section is on 
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> neonixie-l automatically carry of to control access to the library section.
> 
> No disrespect, but anyone can go bust or withdraw a service, not just Google. 
> Bearing in mind that they've supported free groups pretty much since they 
> were founded, they're unlikely to go away any time soon. However, even if 
> they did, we have multiple mirrors...
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[neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

[Nick]

I'm well aware of the risks of data loss - that's why the group is backed 
up multiple ways.

The main reason for using a Google integrated solution is convenience - the 
hosting is there and so is access control - e.g. the library section is on 
Google Drive but "knows" about Google Groups; the access rights granted in 
neonixie-l automatically carry of to control access to the library section.

No disrespect, but anyone can go bust or withdraw a service, not just 
Google. Bearing in mind that they've supported free groups pretty much 
since they were founded, they're unlikely to go away any time soon. 
However, even if they did, we have multiple mirrors...

Cheers

Nick

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[neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 new for sale

[neonixie-l]

Small but important point - the group is not a general commercial 
marketplace - the occasional sale is fine but most folk subscribe to 
neonixie-l by email, and with over 1,000 members, most will be happy with 
exceptional items, but not commodity sales (we've had complaints in the 
past - they view it as unrequested SPAM)...

Thanks for your understanding...

Nick

On Monday, 22 April 2019 18:25:12 UTC+1, Mrserj wrote:
>
> Sale: 
>
> IN-18 - 25 pcs. for $45 each,
> Sockets as gift.
> Link to gallery: https://postimg.cc/gallery/14wxodfpa/
>
> Shipping: 10$ + 5$ (Registered Airmail with tracking)
> Payment: PayPal
>
>
> Click
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 new for sale

[Mrserj]

As you decide... You can buy entire box or only 6 pcs for clock. Shipping 
from Moldova

On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 8:25:12 PM UTC+3, Mrserj wrote:
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> Sale: 
>
> IN-18 - 25 pcs. for $45 each,
> Sockets as gift.
> Link to gallery: https://postimg.cc/gallery/14wxodfpa/
>
> Shipping: 10$ + 5$ (Registered Airmail with tracking)
> Payment: PayPal
>
>
> Click
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

[Terry Kennedy]

On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 1:47:53 AM UTC-4, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
wrote:
>
> A "own" solution has the benefits that it can be fully customized to the 
> needs of the user, is independand and can be backed up/ migrated easily. A 
> SQL dump can be importet to any SQL Database in case the server/hosting 
> would have to shut down. 
>

I'd be glad to host this on one of my company's web servers, which has a 
10GbE link to multiple Internet providers (I think we peer with something 
like 250 providers). The host is FreeBSD / Apache / mySQL / PHP and command 
line / [S]FTP access would be available. Feel free to contact me off-list 
if this is of interest.

Note that this is just the hosting - someone else needs to develop / 
maintain the database and web app.

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Socket for B5971 & B8971

[Marcin Saj]

Thanks Bill for letting me know about B5971 (I already bought it)!
At this moment I have 22 sockets but in a few weeks 3 more will be 
available.

W dniu wtorek, 23 kwietnia 2019 02:36:33 UTC+2 użytkownik Bill Notfaded 
napisał:
>
> Looks great!  I got you email today about the project.  I'll be getting 
> the 22 socket plan and also want the two under development.  I need both of 
> those sockets.  I have both sets of tubes but exactly enough for my clocks. 
>  Did you know a single and set of six b-5971 are on eBay right now?  I 
> could buy the single one and send to you if you can't find one.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NL5971-B5971-B-5971-Alphanumeric-Nixie-Tube-1-EA-NOS-NIB-MOD-SIX-Clock/143218438985
>
> Bill
>
>

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