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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2018-09-23 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Well close to a year ago I started my version of a Michael Barile SlingBlade
clock using PV Electronics R568 Clock kit. Jeff Walton built a NWTS from
Manual Azevedo (sorry for his
lost).

Everything went well and I have enjoyed the clock immensely including the
MOD-SIX_Gen V Michael Barile so generously built for me.

I wanted to get Dalibor to send me a couple colons unassembled so I could
try to retrofit it to the PV round PCB boars Pete used in his kits. Well
as of today things are looking good.. Dalibor has sent me the colons and a
few tubes that showed some leakage. He is unbelievable when it comes to
customer service and helping a guy out even without using his main Zen PC
board. I really wanted to use it but the 3" more in length and narrowness
just did not fit in the design of the SlingBlade .

Pete V also helped by providing some prints of the main R568 PC board as
what traces to cut if I would need to add the two 66K 1/4W metal film
resistors on the cathode side to make it work.

After E-mailing Dalibor quite a few times I think I will be able to fit the
resistors in the colon base. If so this will be an easier mod to do as I
just have to replace R8,R9,R10,R11 270K resistors with some wire jumpers
and plug in the new colons.

With my current colons I made, I used a friction fit sleeve out of a nylon
spacer about .250 high that I used to hold the round PCB colon tight to the
black colon base as the flange is on the bottom of the colon base. I will
wrap a few layer of cellophane tape around the base of the colon tube glass
for a friction fit. I will solder the leads to the round PCB colon board
having the nylon spacer go through the leads before soldering. I will wrap
the colon leads one turn around a pencil before soldering so I have enough
length to push down the spacer over the round PCB and have it bottom out on
the colon base using a flat blade screwdriver.

Then I will push the colon glass down into the base about .250 and twist
slightly to align the colon dots to the front.

If anyone has a better idea let me know before the colon's arrive.

Thanks everyone for making this dream possible.

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2018-09-23 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Well close to a year ago I started my version of a Michael Barile SlingBlade
clock using PV Electronics R568 Clock kit. Jeff Walton built a NWTS from
Manual Azevedo (sorry for his lost) for me.

Everything went well and I have enjoyed the clock immensely including the
MOD-SIX_Gen V Michael Barile so generously built for me.

e the colons and a few tubes that showed some leakage. He is
unbelievable when it comes to customer service and helping a guy out even
without using his main Zen PC board. I really wanted to use the ZEN board
but the 3" more in length and narrowness just did not fit in the design of
the SlingBlade .

Pete V also helped by providing some prints of the main R568 PC board as
what traces to cut if I would need to add the two 66K 1/4W metal film
resistors on the cathode side of the colon's to make it work.

Then I will push the colon glass down into the base about .250 and twist
slightly to align the colon dots to the front.

If anyone has a better idea let me know before the colon's arrive.

Thanks everyone for making this dream possible.

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2018-09-23 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Well close to a year ago I started my version of a Michael Barile SlingBlade
clock using PV Electronics R568 Clock kit. Jeff Walton built a NWTS from
Manual Azevedo (sorry for his lost) for me.

Everything went well and I have enjoyed the clock immensely including the
MOD-SIX_Gen V Michael Barile so generously built for me.

I wanted to get Dalibor to send me a couple of his colons unassembled so I
could try to retrofit it to the PV round PCB board's Pete V used in his
kits. Well as of today things are looking good.. Dalibor has sent me the
colons and a few tubes that showed some leakage. He is unbelievable when it
comes to customer service and helping a guy out even without using his
main Zen PC board. I really wanted to use the ZEN board but the 3" more in
length and narrowness just did not fit in the design of the SlingBlade .

Then I will push the colon glass down into the base about .250 and twist
slightly to align the colon dots to the front.

If anyone has a better idea let me know before the colon's arrive.

Thanks everyone for making this dream possible.

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2018-09-23 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Sorry for the multiple  posts. I had to correct some spelling:-)

On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 9:10:38 AM UTC-5, Edward Van Belkom wrote:
>
> I am starting my new clock project and will be posting my build here.
>
> For now this is what I will be ordering.
>
> PV Electronics R568 Clock kit with black colon tubes
> 6  Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes 
> PIR Kit
> Azevedo NWTS with black case
>
> I need to know what high quality 2 amp power supply  you would recommend 
> to get?
>
> With MichaelB help I have the preliminary stand design and color worked 
> out and waiting till I get the clock kit to make the final drawings and 
> prints.
> His input really helped quite a bit as all the LED's, Switches, Power 
> connector, GPS and PIR connectors will be mounted in the stand instead of 
> the PCB board.
>
> Jeff Walton is also helping me out with the NWTS and I thank him for that:)
>
> Stay tuned and add any info that might help me out on this build.
>
> Thanks Edward
>
>
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2018-09-23 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Grrr! One last time.

Well close to a year ago I started my version of a Michael
Barile SlingBlade clock using PV Electronics R568 Clock kit. Jeff
Walton built a NWTS from Manual Azevedo (sorry for his lost) for me.

Everything went well and I have enjoyed the clock immensely including the
MOD-SIX_Gen V Michael Barile so generously built for me.

Then I will push the colon glass down into the base about .250 and twist
slightly to align the colon dots to the front.

If anyone has a better idea let me know before the colon's arrive.

Thanks everyone for making this dream possible.

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2018-09-24 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Thanks dixter

I will see when they get here. I have a couple ways to go but if the 
resistors fit in the colon base it should be fairly easy to do. I really 
got to thank Dalibor for helping me out on this. We will see soon as the 
shipment is in the states.


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RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Solitube Clock

2017-07-27 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Yes I know that but just wanted to get in line so when he is able to send me 6 
tubes I would be in some sequence when he could ship.

I only really need the Zen board right now to build the stand around it. 
Everything else can wait till this winter.

 

I hope he may be able to slip one in the mail in the next 4-6 weeks so I can 
finish the design and get the materials for the stand to start building.

 

My plan was to have it all done by Christmas this year. 

 

Thanks Roddy and all that have responded. I am on a clear path and focused on 
what I want to do to get this clock madeJ 

 

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Roddy Scott
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 2:12 PM
To: neonixie-l
Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Solitube Clock

 

Currently Dalibor is not taking any orders for his tubes just now as he has had 
a huge response lately for them and the Zen clock. Hopefully when you get 
around to building he will be open for orders again.

 

 

"I realized with all that info that I probably would not be happy for long 
after looking at all the 6 tube clocks that uses Dalibor's  R|Z568M tubes.

Since this will be a long term investment I have decided to change course and 
budget and build a 6 tube clock with R|Z568M tubes."

 

 

 

 

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Solitube Clock

2017-07-27 Thread Edward Van Belkom


Thanks Jeff

I did not know that. I am sure it will not be too hard to make that change. 
I reached out to Dalibor on getting the board only so we will see.

In the meantime if anyone has the exact measurement of the board that would 
help. I have a close one but not exact.

And a big thanks to MichaelB for getting me on the right course for my 
build.. Hopefully by Christmas I will have my own clockwork orange;)

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Solitube Clock

2017-07-27 Thread Edward Van Belkom

And please bare with me as I think I finally  learned how to post in this 
forum.:) 

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[neonixie-l] Re: Solitube Clock

2017-07-30 Thread Edward Van Belkom

[image: WiFi NTP Sync Device for Nixie Clocks] 

Well good news!

I was able to order 6 black R|Z568M tubes from Dalibor. It will be a few 
months before shipping but they are in line to be produced. Thanks Dalibor
I was going to also get the Zen board but the size just was not going to 
work with the base I will be making.
So I will get the PV Electronics Spectrum R568 kit, WiFi NTP Sync Device 
and PIR Motion Sensor.
I will start ordering material for the base this week after drawing full 
scale prints with dimensions for the project.

Edward



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[neonixie-l] Re: Solitube Clock

2017-07-31 Thread Edward Van Belkom



I will end this tread and start a new one as my build will no longer be the 
> Solitube clock.
>

Thanks everyone for your help.

Edward 

>  
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[neonixie-l] PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-07-31 Thread Edward Van Belkom

I am starting my new clock project and will be posting my build here.

For now this is what I will be ordering.

PV Electronics R568 Clock kit with black colon tubes
6  Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes 
PIR Kit
Azevedo NWTS with black case

I need to know what high quality 2 amp power supply  you would recommend to 
get?

With MichaelB help I have the preliminary stand design and color worked out 
and waiting till I get the clock kit to make the final drawings and prints.
His input really helped quite a bit as all the LED's, Switches, Power 
connector, GPS and PIR connectors will be mounted in the stand instead of 
the PCB board.

Jeff Walton is also helping me out with the NWTS and I thank him for that:)

Stay tuned and add any info that might help me out on this build.

Thanks Edward


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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-01 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Well the PV Electronics R568 Clock kit was ordered today. Pete is a great
guy to work with.

Jeff is getting my NWTS.

Dalibor has my order for 6 Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes.

I also have been working on the stand design. I have most of the hole
spacing documented in a Excel file and have the dimensions for the arc's I
need to cut out of the aluminum.

The plan right now is to see if I can find someone to convert the
measurements of the Excel file to a DWG. or DXF. file.

Then I probably will get the stock cut out on a CNC router with all the
thru holes done. At the same time they can cut out a pattern in MDF as a
tray to let me finish the holes with a unibit. and to finish the part.

The holes to fasten it together will also be done at the same time. That
way all I need to do is tap the holes and everything should fit perfectly
with no gaps. There still will be a lot of work to do but this will insure
that the pieces fit correctly.

The case will be made from acrylic as I need to fabricate the prism ends.

Chomping on the bit for now until the kit is delivered.

Edward

Robert L

Thanks for posting that mod. When I get to that point we can get together.

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-02 Thread Edward Van Belkom


>
> Thanks Bob
>

I am still a paper pencil guy for right now. I made a couple prints with 
tracing paper to test the design. After some adjustments with a real eraser 
I overlapped them and the were identical. I made a spreadsheet in Excel  
that shows the center point distance of each hole vertically from the top 
and from the center out horizontally.

I also calculated the arc radius for the main curve and arc radius for the 
last 1.25" on each end.

I also made a table in decimal and fraction equivalent for all the hole 
sizes.

The basic shape will fit a 3/8" x 22" x 2.3/4" of 6061 T6 Al plate. It will 
have 23 hole that 11 are a mirror image of the other side.

Making everything fit and look good took me a couple days but I am just 
about there. I just need someone to input the data in a CAD program to see 
how it looks and if I need to do any adjustments so the spacing between 
holes is exactly the same.

It is pretty simple for someone that is fluent and would not take that 
long. For me it would probably take over a week and to learn the basics. 
But to learn the shortcuts to move the holes ever so slightly so everything 
aligns properly is another story. 

Don't get me wrong as I used a CNC milling machine before  but just did not 
understand the G code and CNC programing at that time.

The main thing is the design is going fit the R568 PCB board. Since the 
tubes overhang 1-2mm on each end and are flush with the front of the PCB, I 
needed the correct spacing for the Acrylic case so I had to rework the 
dimensions  a few times to make it fit the design and still look pleasing.

So the base stands 2-3/4" high. Looking from the front the bottom length is 
22" and the top is 18". It has a 4-7/8" depth.

The Acrylic case will be 4-5/8 x 18" x 6" High. So the total size of the 
clock with Acrylic case  will be 8-3/4"  high x 22" long x  4-7/8" depth.

If anyone can help in the CNC program for a small donation let me know:) I 
can send the data and pictures of the prints to make it pretty clear.

The first thing is to get a accurate print made of the front view with 
corrected dimensions. The rest will be easy.

Regards 
Edward



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[neonixie-l] Re: A finished in-14 nixie clock from a beginner

2017-08-07 Thread Edward Van Belkom


Very nice looking! It looks like you are hooked:)

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-14 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Just an update where I am at.

My kit arrived safe and sound from Pete today.

I have the design pretty well finished up. I did not need a CAD program as
outlined below.
A shop with a CNC mill just wanted the X and Y coordinates for each hole,
what size were the plates and where was "0" located.

They will use those coordinates to cut out the basic holes for me to finish
tapping and countersinking.
I will use a 1/4"-1-3/8" Unibit to get the two step look. for the 23 front
and rear holes in the 3/8" plates.

I am doing this all on paper but I have it just about done and will bring
it to them to get the holes drilled. I just did not have the skill Michael
has to be right on the mark for each hole so this should get me close.

I also was able to calculate the two radius needed for the curve on the
bottom of the plates with the tangent points where they meet. When I get
done with the plates the shop will stack all four of them together and cut
out the curve and the angle on each end in one shot.

The rest will be up to me to finish.

It was funny that I did it in metric and they wanted everything in
decimals. I had to convert everything over. The shop was very reasonable in
the price as they will load my calculations into the CNC mill saving a lot
of time for them. The shop also could of done all the other machining but
that would drive the price up quite a bit so this was the best bank for the
buck so to speak.

The full size drawings I drafted looks like everything fits well and should
come together without too many problems.

I also got all the switches, Jacks and LED's and fitted them in a scrap
piece of aluminum to see what panel thickness, clearance hole size and
depth would needed to be milled out from the back side of the plate for
them to fit. The shop would be able to do both operations per hole at one
time if they drilled all the pilot holes from the backside of the plate. I
was able to get that included when they drill all the holes for each of the
4 plates.

Any hints or comments are welcome:)

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-16 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Thanks everyone for your comments and support on this project.

I have my sister visiting this week so will get back on it next Wednesday .

I do have a couple questions.

What inexpensive soldering station will work well for this kit? I have
soldered before so I have the skills but not the equipment to use before
retiring.

For the brushed aluminum I am looking what most manufactures of separate
audio components like Marantz use for their face plates?

Do they use a wire wheel or sandpaper and what grit to get that look? I
will get to that stage before getting the pieces anodized so just wondering.

As soon as I get the 4 plates back from the shop that are drilling all the
pilot holes in each one I will know if I did my math correctly.

There still is a lot of work to do with the Unibit on the pre-drilled
plates before I know the build is going to work and look pleasing when
finished.

I also have an idea for the colon tubes but have to wait for a reply from
some people to see if it will work.

And a big thank you for Jeff Walton for getting me a NWTS that he assembled
and programmed for me! Thanks Jeff

I think I have everything figured out except the color of anodized gold for
the two inner plates. I got some samples back but just not the right shade
I am looking for.

That is it for now. I will post pictures when I get the plates back from
the shop and when I start on the clock kit.

Edward

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-17 Thread Edward Van Belkom


Well very good news. I stopped at Appleton Electronics a part supply house 
and talked to the owner. I wanted to see if he had a solder station I might 
be able to use. He took me to the back and showed me a full electronic 
repair workshop with solder/desolder SMS station and everything including 
scopes to repair equipment. He offered to let me use the shop to build the 
kit so I am all set in that department. 

Edward

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-17 Thread Edward Van Belkom


Thanks Terry

I figured by the time I got all the needed supply's I would be spending one 
bill at least. Thanks to John's kind offer to use his shop It

will be around a 1/4 of that and he likes chatting with me so all good.

Dalibor  is also helping me with the colon tube glass covers and bases so 
everything is coming together smoothly at this time.

I found out that taking your time and thinking through all the steps needed 
and how to get through each step one at a time usually creates success.

With the help and friends created here how can you not succeed.:)

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clocks at 100%Design Exhibition - London Olympia

2017-08-18 Thread Edward Van Belkom


Good luck Paul! I hope you do well.

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-18 Thread Edward Van Belkom

> Well I think I figured out how to do my colon tubes
>

With the PV kit I have two small round PCB boards with a RGB LED soldered
in the middle of it. It has 8 pins that 4 are used by the RGB LED.

I got some 1/16" brass tubing and with a #60 drill I was able to open up
the hole to fit one of the pins perfectly.

Now with some clear heat shrink I can solder two short tubes on front pins
and two longer ones one the back pins.

Since the spacing is wide enough between the two tubes. I can insert the
neon bulb and twist the wire leads so the bulb is 90 degrees to the tubes.
Then I can push the bulbs back so they will fit inside the glass covers
that Dalibor is making.

This is a modification that Michael does with his designs but it will fit
the PCB board's that PV electronics supplies with their kit. The bulb will
also fit at a 90 degree angle to the glass covers Dalibor is making. Not as
nice as the colon tubes Dalibor will be making but a good compromise. His
are 3 pin and mine are 8 so not a quick swap.

This way if a bulb fails I can unplug the colon tube from the main PCB
board. Then I can lift the base and glass cover from the PCB board that is
plugged in the main PCB board as it is just a snug fit.. Then just unsolder
the bulb from the top of the two brass tubes clip the leads on the new one
and solder it on the two brass tubes. slip the glass cover and base back on
the PCB board with the brass tubes and bulbs and plug it back in the 8 pin
socket on the main PCB board.

I hope that makes sense.

It is the marriage of three designs to make it work for this particular
application.

One reason for the PV kit is I can replace any part on the board if it
fails. And the satisfaction of building the kit myself.

Any thoughts?

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-19 Thread Edward Van Belkom

> Thanks Roddy
>

I gleamed most of the ideas from Michael's builds. He is a genius when it
comes to Nixie clock frame designs.

He gives you enough hints to use your creativity to build your clock
without holding your hand along the way. Thanks Michael it is working:)

I hope everything goes right but I am sure a few hiccup's will occur.

Does anyone know how to post a picture here? Or even attach a file? I am
having problems with both.

Other than that still wondering for the Colon tubes to either Paint the
1/16" brass tubes to support the Neon bulbs Gloss black, heat shrink with
black,or heat shrink with clear?

By turning the bulbs at 90 degrees I need some insulation on the rear
taller brass tubes so the leads from the front bulb does not contact the
rear taller brass tubes.

They will be covered with the glass cover but do not want any shorts in
case the clock gets bumped.

When I get ready to solder the colon tubes PCB I just want a firm plan on
what I will be doing.

I really would like to get a couple prototypes from Dalibor and modify
those to fit the PCB boards that I have with the kits. The high voltage is
at 170VDC going through a 270K resistor to ground for each bulb. I do not
know if his prototype colon tubes fit that parameter.

Maybe that may happen in the future but I try to plan with what I have at
this moment.

In the next couple days I will finish the final prints and bring them to
the shop to get the 4 plates made and drilled. A week from now I will start
assembling the kit and get it ready to do the trial fit to the stand and
make the modifications needed to make it fit perfectly or as close as I can.

Then I will wait for the tubes to arrive and go from there. I will wait on
doing anything on the colon tubes until then as they need to match
perfectly to get the look that is in my mind.

Just to be clear I am borrowing most of the ideas from the members on this
forum and thank them for the support that they have given me to pursue this
project.

Edward

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-25 Thread Edward Van Belkom


Monday or Tuesday of next week I will start building the clock kit. I will 
start posting pictures of the build then.

I also finished the final prints and spreadsheet for the stand and brought 
them to the shop the get the four plates made and drilled with the pilot 
holes. They will also mill the backside of the inner and outer rear plates 
to .125" thickness so the switches , LED's , Power connector and PIR jack 
will fit properly.

After I get done the plates should look like this. Then back to the shop 
for getting the bottom curve and sides milled to the proper shape.

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-25 Thread Edward Van Belkom


Monday or Tuesday of next week I will start building the clock kit. I will 
start posting pictures of the build then.

I also finished the final prints and spreadsheet for the stand and brought 
them to the shop the get the four plates made and drilled with the pilot 
holes. They will also mill the backside of the inner and outer rear plates 
to .125" thickness so the switches , LED's , Power connector and PIR jack 
will fit properly.

After I get done the plates should look like this. Then back to the shop 
for getting the bottom curve and sides milled to the proper shape.


Ok finally figured out how to post the pictures.

Full steam ahead:)


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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-26 Thread Edward Van Belkom


I thought I would make a little jig to hold the board when soldering. Zero 
cost and just a little time to make. Any more hints before I start on 
Monday are welcome:)




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[neonixie-l] Re: CD47 on ebay

2017-08-26 Thread Edward Van Belkom


I could see a Solitube clock made from that tube and put it in a Lighthouse 
for double duty:)

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-26 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Thanks Roddy!  That should do the trick. The colon tubes will be the last 
thing I will construct. I just have to pick up a cheap magnifying head 
visor that I found for $5.00 tomorrow and I will be ready early next week 
to tackle the kit.

I will be using these 3mm LED's that are diffused and should look nice. I 
also have all the switches, jacks and power connector so I am ready to go. 
I appreciate the advice.







On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 2:43:20 AM UTC-5, Roddy Scott wrote:

> Edward, 
>
> one method of retaining the brass as it is and to stop it shorting out is 
> to coat it with a lacquer. You can either use a spray lacquer or paint on a 
> clear gel coat nail varnish such as Sally Hansen's Double Duty. If you use 
> the DD, give it a couple of days to get to a rock hard finish.
> I have used this in various aspects for clocks, it makes great crystal 
> clear lenses for LEDs embedded in brass mounts if you build it up slowly 
> over a couple of days, to make diffuser lenses just agitate two part clear 
> epoxy to include micro air bubbles in it and this gives great dispersion of 
> the LED light.
>
> I get some weird looks from the staff at my local pharmacy when I am 
> asking them for clear nail varnish but they are getting used to me asking 
> for strange stuff. It is a good place to get small amounts of chemicals for 
> other applications too.
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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-28 Thread Edward Van Belkom

I also added a parts holder so very easy to put part in, move foam pad over 
part , rotate board and solder;)




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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-28 Thread Edward Van Belkom

How about add a piece of antistatic foam to the bottom of the foam?

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 12:18:00 PM UTC-5, gregebert wrote:
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> Be careful with any plastic contraptions; they can create ESD problems. As 
> long as no ESD-sensitive parts are on the board during handling, no worries.
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> If you do have ESD-sensitive parts, it's probably best to mount them last. 
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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-28 Thread Edward Van Belkom


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> Thanks Greg.
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I brought everything to the shop today and got the last few items to start 
building. I will start bright and early tomorrow morning and hopefully have 
most of it completed that day.

So far I will be mounting the inductor, Resistor networks. Piezo sounder, 3 
MOSFET's, HV board and 2 way header on the bottom of the PCB to clean it up 
a bit.

I also got some 90% isopropanol alcohol to clean the rosin flux off the PC 
board while soldering.

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-28 Thread Edward Van Belkom

 

Thanks Greg

 

 All the parts are in a (ESD) bag and the PIC is in conductive foam. I have 
a wrist strap that I can connect to the pads for the power supply input on 
the PCB.


I should be able to get it all done tomorrow except for all the wiring 
going to the remote switches and LED's. I will solder and heat shrink the 
wiring to the switches and LED's and do the final terminations to the PCB 
after everything is installed in the stand.

 


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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-29 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Well it took 7.5 hours but I got the kit assembled. I spent some time 
cleaning the flux off after soldering 3-6 components and seemed to work 
well. When I was all done I spent another half an hour cleaning the board 
with alcohol again to get ride of some streaks still left behind.

I did the voltage checks along the way and was able to dial the HV at 
exactly 170.0 VDC.

Pete did a great job on the kit and instructions. Tomorrow I will finish up 
soldering the wire leads to the LED's ,switches, PIR and GPS.

Then I will have to wait a few weeks before my aluminum plates are ready to 
be picked up from the shop.

I want to thank everyone for their input on this project so far. It has 
gone as smooth as silk so far. Fingers crossed:)





























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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-29 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Well the video did not work. Let me try again.

Video 


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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-30 Thread Edward Van Belkom



Thanks Roddy
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I can't wait to see the tubes also :)

It was nice for John to let me use his shop to assemble it. A nice solder 
station is hard to beat. The cheap lighted magnifying visor was a great 
help and it would of been hard to do without it.

I will finish soldering all the wire leads to the LED's, Switches, GPS and 
PIR jack today and wait for the aluminum plates to be drilled so I can pick 
them up and start building the case.


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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-08-31 Thread Edward Van Belkom



Finished everything up today. Hooked up everything and got the NWTS 
connected to the network and have a Green locked sync signal LED lit.

 
I am as far as I can go until the plates come in to start on the base. 














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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-09-02 Thread Edward Van Belkom

 If someone has one of Dalibor's  tubes can you get the exact measurement 
of the height of the black base?

Thanks




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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-09-03 Thread Edward Van Belkom


Thanks Dalibor. I sent you an e-mail:)

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-09-05 Thread Edward Van Belkom



> Well I picked up my brass and aluminum stock and brought it to the shop to 
> get the holes drilled, so I can go to town on the unibit to enlarge the 
> holes, with the double taper. I sure hope you will still be able to see the 
> detail after anodizing the aluminum a black hard coat. The brass will be 
> brushed in front and polished on the edges
>
   The aluminum will be brushed on all sides before the black hard coat.

   Man that brass is pricey! I went from $40 to $132 on just the change 
from all aluminum to aluminum and brass. The reason was I liked the look of 
brass better that thebright dip gold anodizing and the cost at the 
end was the same going either way. It is hard to find a bright dip anodizer 
these days as it is being outlawed in many states.



 


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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-09-06 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Those are pictures of Michael's base. I am using his design for reference.

The Hard coat black anodizing will be about $50 for the lot charge. The 
gold Bright dip anodizing is $75  lot charge plus shipping so ended up 
around $100. That is the same cost as the brass so that is why I decided to 
go with brass instead.



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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-09-11 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Before I get all my holes drilled I thought I would check the hole spacing 
and 1/4-40 tap for the switches. I was going to use nuts on the outside 
instead of tapping the holes but I think this will look cleaner overall. I 
also wanted to see what size fasteners I wanted and am going with stainless 
8-32 flat head socket head screws. Here is the test piece I made from 1/8" 
thick aluminum angle I had laying around. I also brushed it with 80 grit
sandpaper to see how it would look. I just used a sharpie to color it black 
to get an idea how it would look. Everything looks like it will fit ok and 
the tap worked perfectly for the threads on the switches. 









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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-09-11 Thread Edward Van Belkom


Thanks Terry

I also can get Black Anodized Aluminum flat head socket head screws. Or 
Black oxide steel. What would you prefer?

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-09-11 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Thanks Terry

Easy enough to change as I have not ordered the screws yet.

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-09-20 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Well finally starting to move forward on the base.

I got the back plate back today from the shop and the front one will be 
done tomorrow.

 

I tapped the holes for the switches and did a final fit. I needed the nut 
on the toggle so I could tighten it to the right orientation. I indented 
the switches so they would not stick out so far.


 I ordered some tapping fluid and as soon as that arrives I can finish the 
holes with the unibit. Once both plates are done the shop will be able to 
finish cutting the angles and arch.


They decided to drill and tap the holes to hold the plates together and 
also the side plates to the inner plates as everything is on CAD and that 
way the parts will align perfectly. That will also save me time on sanding 
and getting a nice brushed finish before getting the aluminum plates 
anodized.











I will replace the right switch as it cracked a corner when installing it. 
Must of been bad from the start.












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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-09-21 Thread Edward Van Belkom



> I got the back plate holes done with the unibit  today.  I did each hole 
> individually without stops and that worked fine for me.
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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-09-22 Thread Edward Van Belkom


And now we have four! Tomorrow I will install the brass rails to support 
the PCB and countersink all the holes. Then one last trip to the shop where 
they will trim the plates to shape outlined on the brass plate below. I 
just had a small drill press to open up the holes with the unibit but it 
looks like it turned out ok for my first clock project:-)











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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-09-22 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Thanks John.

I have been careful with the board and so far everything is turning out OK. 
Once the rails are mounted and the board is installed for fit I will store 
it in a static free bag until the final assembly begins.

I am at awe how Roddy, Michael and everyone else can come up with these 
ideas and build them from scratch. Hat's off to all of you!

The next hurdle will be the sanding before going to the Anodizer. After 
that it should be a piece of cake to finish if that goes well.

Michael talked about using Everbrite ProtectaClear on the brushed brass. I 
was going to get a 4OZ bottle and wondered who else used it and what they 
thought of it?

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-09-24 Thread Edward Van Belkom


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> Rails mounted. Back to the shop for the final cutout.
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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-09-24 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Thanks Roddy

My goal is to get a bright brushed look with 220 grit sandpaper. Then I
want to seal it as soon as I can to lock in that look. Every Brass part
will have the coating before putting it all together for the last time.

That is why I mentioned Everbrite ProtectaClear as a sealant instead of
lacquer that can yellow over time.

Things are moving quickly now and by the end of the week the stand should
be done ready to sand.

I found out I do like working with brass. It sands easily and will not take
as much time as I thought to get to the perfect brushed finish before the
coating goes on.

Any help on this to get the aluminum and brass to look even in the brushed
finish would be greatly appreciated. Remember that the Aluminum will have a
black anodized hard coat after the brushed finish with 220 grit so take
this in account. The brass most likely will have
the Everbrite ProtectaClear coating as it is thin and will not change the
look much from uncoated brass.

Unless someone has a better Idea;-)

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-10-04 Thread Edward Van Belkom


Well great news.

Dalibor is shipping my tubes today! 

I am getting close to having the clock base done and ready for sanding and 
anodizing. I have a sample at the anodizer now to see what grit sandpaper I 
need to sand the aluminum. The hard coat will fill in some so I need to see 
that it matched the brushed brass properly.

I have the PV board set up at 180VDC with the 8.2K resistor for Dalibor's 
tubes.

What value resistor would be best for the 4mm wire end neon bulbs Pete 
supplied with the kit at this voltage?

Thanks everyone for helping me out on this.


 

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-10-04 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Thanks Jeff

I am trying to adjust everything for optimum performance and reliability 
before my tubes arrive. I have not soldered in the 270K resistors for the 
colon neon bulbs so wondering if a different value would work better or if 
these would be fine at 180VDC instead of the 170VDC that was in the 
instruction manual?

Dalibor e-mailed me today and mentioned 170VDC on his Zen clock  for the 
RZ568M tubes but not the resistor value. He said the 180VDC with the 8.2K 
would be fine so just wondered what was the optimum voltage and resistor 
combination would be for his RZ568M tubes and at that voltage what the best 
resistor value would be for the neon bulbs or is that not critical?





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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-10-09 Thread Edward Van Belkom



I got my tubes today  and did a test on them with the NWTS and PIR hooked 
> up. Everything is working well so I took everything apart and am ready to 
> do the final finishing on the clock base. Hopefully next week I will do the 
> final soldering of the last items left and start the final assembly.
>

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsqV1P3MiKI&feature=youtu.be
 



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[neonixie-l] Re: Sync your clock using WiFi

2017-10-21 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Another happy user here! I got the small green Aprilbrother ESP Flasher  
and flashed to Ver. 2.5. It works great and now I do not need to worry 
about DST!


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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-10-25 Thread Edward Van Belkom



I finished my clock today so here are a few pictures. My acrylic case will 
> still take about a month to finish and I will post a picture with it 
> installed. Hope you like it:-)
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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-10-25 Thread Edward Van Belkom


Thanks Jon

MichaelB gave me a lot of guidance to get to where it is.

I also want  to thank Jeff Walton for getting and assembling the NWTS.

Everyone here made me feel welcome and gave advice to get it the state it 
is in now. Thank you all!

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-10-25 Thread Edward Van Belkom


Thanks Jeff!

Dalibor was kind enough to make two glass tubes and bases for me before 
shipping the tubes. I was able to adapt Pete's round colon PCB and designed 
the supports to hold the neon bulbs. Hopefully when he is in production he 
will send me a pair that I can adapt to Pete's PCB and make it work. I 
already have another set of PCB's  I got from Pete to do the job:-)

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-10-25 Thread Edward Van Belkom



Thanks Jens
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Yea, I never though of it that way;-)  

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-10-25 Thread Edward Van Belkom


I used 1mm brass rod for supports. This worked perfectly as it was the same 
diameter as the pins for the PCB . I made the supports and solder them to 
the PCB with enough sticking through to become the new pins for the neon 
bulbs. I put black heat shrink on before soldering and pre-tinned the top 
of the supports so I could solder the bulbs on. It worked pretty slick!  

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-10-25 Thread Edward Van Belkom


Thanks Pramanican :-)

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-10-26 Thread Edward Van Belkom


>
> Thank you Dixter.
>
 

> It turned out better that I expected. Now if the acrylic cover turns out I 
> will be a happy camper:-) 
>


On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 8:29:06 AM UTC-5, dixter wrote:
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> Very nice looking clock...  :-)
>
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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-10-28 Thread Edward Van Belkom

Thank you for the kind words Roddy!

MichaelB said I would have to re design his SlingBlade to fit the PV board
and he was right. You just hope it will turn out right after spending all
the money to get it fabricated to fit the PV board. The colon's was the
fourth try when discussing with MichaelB on the look. He really liked this
last design that I was able to fit in the glass envelopes Dalibor made for
me.

The 1mm brass rod covered with black heat shrink made it work. I was able
to form the tight circle for the lower neon bulb using a Wire Looper
Pliers. After the supports were covered with the heat shrink and bent I was
able to heat up the heat shrink and stick the supports together like glue.
Then I just slipped the supports through the small round colon PC board
until they were the same length as the other pins and soldered them in.
Then I just tinned the top of the supports and the leads of the neon bulbs
and soldered them on. I trimmed the leads and used a sharpie to cover the
solder joints and slipped the glass envelopes over them after bending the
leads to the correct shape and the neon bulb at the correct orientation . I
used some clear tape on the glass envelopes to hold them snug.

Pete, even sent me some extra neon bulbs and a temp sensor when a lead
broke from handling at no charge!

I am very happy how it turned out and am looking forward on seeing the
acrylic cover installed when it is finished.

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[neonixie-l] Re: PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-11-11 Thread Edward Van Belkom



> I got my acrylic cover today and had some picture on the final build. 
> Thanks everyone that helped with this project. It is my first time clock I 
> built but all the advice  got  me to this phase.
>

Thanks for all the help. I  am not good on photography so please excuse the 
pictures I posted but trying to get an idea how it looks.



 

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