Re: [neonixie-l] Re: For Steampunk Nixie Clock Fans..

[JohnK]

Yes, but thanks for reminding me; it has been quite a while since I refreshed 
my memory. And there is new to me content in those links ! Thanks.
I have been green with envy for all the Vulcun stuff [as a kid I had a 
walk-through of a Vulcan at an airshow here and was delighted to see one in 
flight during a visit to the UK in 1980.]

John K
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  On Wednesday, 25 February 2015 14:25:33 UTC, johnk wrote:
 
OT still, but... there are web hits for Vampire with IFF and Radar.  
[Country vs year vs model etc though.]
BTW, the Rebecca is part of an interrogator system; Rebecca finds the 
Eureka. The system can be employed as a DME. 
I am 'restoring' a Rebecca IV. The IV was the British test bed for the 
miniature 7-pin valves (and other miniaturisations)


  Are you familiar with the wonderful work of Tatjana J. van Vark ? See 
http://www.tatjavanvark.nl/tvve/dduck0.html - Not only did she rebuild a 
complete H2S, replacing all the missing bits she needed herself, she also 
designed and built a miniature version from scratch - 
http://www.tatjavanvark.nl/tvv4/radarind.html .


  Her whole site is a thing of beauty/wonderment ! http://www.tatjavanvark.nl/


  Nick
  (*) The H2S runs in her house! http://www.tatjavanvark.nl/tvve/dduck7.html 

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: For Steampunk Nixie Clock Fans..

[Nick]

On Wednesday, 25 February 2015 14:25:33 UTC, johnk wrote:
>
>  
> OT still, but... there are web hits for Vampire with IFF and Radar.  
> [Country vs year vs model etc though.]
> BTW, the Rebecca is part of an interrogator system; Rebecca finds the 
> Eureka. The system can be employed as a DME. 
> I am 'restoring' a Rebecca IV. The IV was the British test bed for the 
> miniature 7-pin valves (and other miniaturisations)
>

Are you familiar with the wonderful work of Tatjana J. van Vark ? See 
http://www.tatjavanvark.nl/tvve/dduck0.html - Not only did she rebuild a 
complete H2S, replacing all the missing bits she needed herself, she also 
designed and built a miniature version from scratch - 
http://www.tatjavanvark.nl/tvv4/radarind.html  
.

Her whole site is a thing of beauty/wonderment ! http://www.tatjavanvark.nl/

Nick
(*) The H2S runs in her house! http://www.tatjavanvark.nl/tvve/dduck7.html  


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: For Steampunk Nixie Clock Fans..

[JohnK]

OT still, but... there are web hits for Vampire with IFF and Radar.  [Country 
vs year vs model etc though.]
BTW, the Rebecca is part of an interrogator system; Rebecca finds the Eureka. 
The system can be employed as a DME. 
I am 'restoring' a Rebecca IV. The IV was the British test bed for the 
miniature 7-pin valves (and other miniaturisations).

John K
Australia

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  Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 6:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: For Steampunk Nixie Clock Fans..


XD515 was in very poor condition, it used to live at Newark Air museum 
under the wing of a Vulcan - outdoors and with a massive hole in the side of 
the cockpit the size of a dustbin lid. Newark scrapped the plane off, and my 
friend Erik purchased it for scrap value with a view of restoring it as a 
retirement project as he worked on them in the RAF many years ago. Over 2 years 
Erik dismantled the plane on site and brought it home bit by bit in his car and 
on a trailer, and started work on it. The fuselage is wooden, the same as a 
Mosquito, so he completely replace the side with the hole in as it would have 
originally been done by DeHavilland. I joined him on the project a few years 
later and I worked on the electrical systems, with a view to getting it to 
power up. I got the rotary inverters going, and a lot of the instrumentation 
functional. Sadly though Erik developed emphaceama and passed away, and he left 
me the plane as an on-going concern. I was not in the position to take the 
plane from Erik's house, or had the room myself to house it all, I already had 
the Goblin Engine in my garage along with the rear fuselage, no room for wings 
and cockpit so it ended up as a collection of parts at RAF Cosford, where I 
hope they will put it back together as it is all there and put it on display. 
At least it is in the right place, and they have the facilities and room to put 
it back together.


  I don't think the Vampire had any IFF system, there was a very early radar 
fitted (Rebecca) that used little antennas on the wings and tails but that is 
advanced as it got, little G4F compass system and that was about it. The engine 
starting mechanism / timer was clockwork which made me smile.


  Never heard of the TabbyF system, makes interesting reading though!


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: For Steampunk Nixie Clock Fans..

[Nick]

On Tuesday, 24 February 2015 08:18:16 UTC, Paul Parry wrote:
>
> I can feel this wandering off Topic slight.. Again.. LOL
>

It doesn't matter in this case. Believe me :)
 

> What a wonderful use for a 5C/3023. I did mention earlier that I had a bit 
> of a fondness for Vintage aircraft, I had a complete Vampire T11 in my 
> possession a few years ago XD515 (long story) not the smallest things to 
> house so I donated it to RAF Cosford where it resides in the sheds at the 
> back awaiting re-assembly.
> Not come across the 'Resin' on the lighting panel, but I know a lot of 
> planes of the era had UV lighting in the cockpit that illuminated all the 
> dials as they had radium? paint inside that glowed very nicely under UV. It 
> could possibly be used to switch on the UV lamps? It was certainly the case 
> in my T11.
>

I've looked at some photos of XD515 - http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/xd515 - 
it was really in poor shape - do you think that it'll ever fly again or 
will it be a static display? A major task if ever there was one. Top marks 
for stopping it rotting completely - certainly a long-term project !
 

> Is that your Firefly?
>

Regrettably (or maybe, "thankfully") not - it was from another forum 
(Britmodeller) where we were discussing the true nature of "RESIN" - lot of 
argument about it as it was classified and seems to have changed its nature 
during its life. It was definitely IFF - not cockpit - the real question 
was was it just very dim/near-IR red lights or true IR - no-one seems to 
know for sure - some speculation too that is relied on other aircraft 
having a "Tabby" system on board... 

Cheers

Nick

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: For Steampunk Nixie Clock Fans..

[Paul Parry]

Hello Nick,

I can feel this wandering off Topic slight.. Again.. LOL

What a wonderful use for a 5C/3023. I did mention earlier that I had a bit 
of a fondness for Vintage aircraft, I had a complete Vampire T11 in my 
possession a few years ago XD515 (long story) not the smallest things to 
house so I donated it to RAF Cosford where it resides in the sheds at the 
back awaiting re-assembly.
Not come across the 'Resin' on the lighting panel, but I know a lot of 
planes of the era had UV lighting in the cockpit that illuminated all the 
dials as they had radium? paint inside that glowed very nicely under UV. It 
could possibly be used to switch on the UV lamps? It was certainly the case 
in my T11.

Is that your Firefly?



On Monday, 23 February 2015 13:26:04 UTC, Nick wrote:

> On Monday, 23 February 2015 12:34:56 UTC, Paul Parry wrote:
>>
>> The part used on Gemini was a MK IB Directional Gyro as fitted to the 
>> Spitfire / Lancaster / Mosquito and most of the other planes of the era. 
>> They are abundant and you can get them on eBay for a couple of pounds, I 
>> used a scrapped one so there was no chance it would ever go up in the air 
>> again anyway
>>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I, too, have a rather eclectic collection of ephemera... My workshop 
> lights are controlled by an MOD 5C/3023 switchbox as used in Lancasters, 
> Mosquitos, FIrefly Vs etc. - the MOD liked to use the same kit in multiple 
> aircraft as it made store-keeping/spares easier to manage.
>
> Enclosed is an image of my 5C/3023 which I acquired NIB for just a few 
> pounds, and a photo of the inside of the cockpit of a Firefly V undergoing 
> restoration, showing the same model box (look closely!).
>
> EDIT: The "RESIN" switch controlled lights for a type of IFF system - 
> there is much discussion, even today, on the exact nature of this, most 
> choosing to believe that it was IR rather than visible-light based...
>
> Cheers
>
> Nick
>
>  
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: For Steampunk Nixie Clock Fans..

[Paul Parry]

Hi John,

No Spitfires were harmed in the making of the clock. I have a fondness for 
old Vintage Aircraft and over the years I have amassed quite a few bits and 
pieces. The part used on Gemini was a MK IB Directional Gyro as fitted to 
the Spitfire / Lancaster / Mosquito and most of the other planes of the 
era. They are abundant and you can get them on eBay for a couple of pounds, 
I used a scrapped one so there was no chance it would ever go up in the air 
again anyway!

Cheers,
Paul



On Friday, 20 February 2015 04:28:38 UTC, johnk wrote:

>  
> Hey Paul, love that thing !
>  
> It is sooo nice I won't ask you what you "killed" to get the gyro  :-((
>  
> [I have an interest in servo-systems, guidance, nav-aids etc ]
> John K
> Australia
>  
>
> - Original Message - 
> *From:* Paul Parry  
> *To:* neoni...@googlegroups.com  
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:54 AM
> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Re: For Steampunk Nixie Clock Fans..
>
>  Hi Nick,
>
> Many thanks, I'm hoping to get a bit of good press from it :)
>
> The Beam engine is actually driven by a small electric motor ( out of an 
> old turntable as it has all the speed controller electronics built in to 
> the rear of the motor ) it is hidden away inside a brass mainspring 
> housing, the drive wheel engages with the flywheel of the Beam engine. It 
> is made to look like the engine is turning a small dynamo that powers the 
> clock.
>
> The clock is located in a public area, so for Health and safety reasons I 
> could not have any sources of ignition, or risk it setting off any fire 
> alarms. The Steam is just mist, you can get these piezo based water mister 
> things that produce a fog out of water, I just re engineered one to suit 
> the clock, the brass cylinder underneath contains a water reservoir.
>
> In answer to Terry's question, the Humidity in Singapore where the clock 
> is located is usually 80% plus so I don't think it will add much. It is 
> more a novelty feature and doesn't run all the time, just on a 30 second 
> timer when you press a button on the side.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Wednesday, 18 February 2015 11:56:08 UTC, Nick wrote:
>
>>  That's lovely Paul - very well done !
>>
>> Is the beam engine driven by compressed air or a meths 
>> burner/similar/whatever...
>>
>> Nick
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: For Steampunk Nixie Clock Fans..

[JohnK]

Hey Paul, love that thing !

It is sooo nice I won't ask you what you "killed" to get the gyro  :-((

[I have an interest in servo-systems, guidance, nav-aids etc ]
John K
Australia

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  From: Paul Parry 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:54 AM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: For Steampunk Nixie Clock Fans..


  Hi Nick,


  Many thanks, I'm hoping to get a bit of good press from it :)


  The Beam engine is actually driven by a small electric motor ( out of an old 
turntable as it has all the speed controller electronics built in to the rear 
of the motor ) it is hidden away inside a brass mainspring housing, the drive 
wheel engages with the flywheel of the Beam engine. It is made to look like the 
engine is turning a small dynamo that powers the clock.


  The clock is located in a public area, so for Health and safety reasons I 
could not have any sources of ignition, or risk it setting off any fire alarms. 
The Steam is just mist, you can get these piezo based water mister things that 
produce a fog out of water, I just re engineered one to suit the clock, the 
brass cylinder underneath contains a water reservoir.


  In answer to Terry's question, the Humidity in Singapore where the clock is 
located is usually 80% plus so I don't think it will add much. It is more a 
novelty feature and doesn't run all the time, just on a 30 second timer when 
you press a button on the side.


  Paul


  On Wednesday, 18 February 2015 11:56:08 UTC, Nick wrote:
That's lovely Paul - very well done !



Is the beam engine driven by compressed air or a meths 
burner/similar/whatever...


Nick

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