Re: Speed of loading NetSurf

2009-05-29 Thread Paul Stewart

On Fri 29/05/09 00:12 , Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 On Thu, 28 May 2009 19:44:31 +0100
 Steve Fryatt  wrote:
   Maybe font canning could be filtered?  And also, once the fonts
 have
   been canned where is the data cached? Is it wasting space
 somewhere
   y retaining font data for fonts that will probably never be
 used?  
  
  It's stored in !Scrap (in a file called RUfl_cache).  On this
  machine, with a few fonts installed, it takes up 277K.  I think
  that's a reasonable price to pay for improved text display.
 And is another reason why people shouldn't keep !Scrap in a RAM
 disc,

But isn't the whole idea of !Scrap, that all the files stored inside it are 
temporary files?
Therefore storing !Scrap in a RAMDisc would appear logical. 


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Re: Speed of loading NetSurf

2009-05-29 Thread David J. Ruck

Paul Stewart wrote:

But isn't the whole idea of !Scrap, that all the files stored inside it are 
temporary files?
Therefore storing !Scrap in a RAMDisc would appear logical. 


That's as maybe, but putting !Scrap in a RAM disc is an archaic practice 
dating back to the use of RISC OS 2 and floppy discs, where to transfer 
data between applications, you would have to reinsert the system disc 
containing !Scrap.


These days it's not beneficial and bad practice for at least 4 reasons:-

1) Applications mainly use RAM transfer for exchanging data between
   each other, so already work faster than disc, and faster than a
   RAM disc.

2) Some applications such as Photodesk may need to store 100MB or more
   of data when processing large images.

3) The RAM disc on the Iyonix actually has a lower peak transfer rate
   than the ATA 100 disc!

4) Some applications store transient data in !Scrap, which can be
   regenerated, but takes additional time at startup, e.g. NetSurf

Cheers
---David

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Re: Speed of loading NetSurf

2009-05-29 Thread Tony Moore
On 28 May 2009, Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

[snip]

 [I] didn't file a bug report. Perhaps I should do so now?

Done 
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2798361group_id=51719atid=464312

Tony






Re: Speed of loading NetSurf

2009-05-29 Thread Steve Fryatt
On 29 May, Paul Stewart  wrote in message
  54662.1243577...@phawfaux.co.uk:

 On Fri 29/05/09 00:12 , Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

  And is another reason why people shouldn't keep !Scrap in a RAM disc,

 But isn't the whole idea of !Scrap, that all the files stored inside it
 are temporary files?

There's temporary, and temporary.  Also, until someone (Adam Richardson,
IIRC) came up with Cache, RISC OS didn't have defined somewhere to store
non-transient internal data that isn't choices.  As such, Scrap seems to be
the best compromise.

 Therefore storing !Scrap in a RAMDisc would appear logical.

Not really.  Not least because it isn't inconceivable that something could try
and store a lot of data in Scrap, use up all the available free RAM, and crash
(or at least fail -- but I wonder how many RISC OS apps really /do/ check
WimpScrap transfers for disc full errors?).

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Re: Speed of loading NetSurf

2009-05-29 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Fri, 29 May 2009 18:29:03 +0100
Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote:

 There's temporary, and temporary.  Also, until someone (Adam
 Richardson, IIRC) came up with Cache, RISC OS didn't have defined
 somewhere to store non-transient internal data that isn't
 choices.  As such, Scrap seems to be the best compromise.

Actually, that was my idea, and Adam has taken forward, and developed
upon. :)

Search the developer's list's archives back to almost 3 years ago; 12
June 2006, in a thread called RUfl_cache.

I don't think the idea got enough momentum to really take off; the
suggestion being that not enough people sabotage their own system by
putting !Scrap into a RAM disc for it to be worth it.

B.



Can no longer access photo stats on Flickr.com

2009-05-29 Thread Brian
Hi
Been using the recent test build of Netsurf and generally been able to 
get around www.flickr.com where I have photo's.
If I go into my flickr page and click on the graph icon where I can 
see the
photo statistics of how many people have viewed them etc, Netsurf
falls over and and finishes saying  Netsurf has detected a serious 
error and must exit
I've always been able to click on this link for a long time and now it 
fails :(
So are there any users out there who have a flickr account and can try
theirs ? as you need a flickr account to try yourself.
Using 5.14 29th May 2009 13.30r7623

Brian
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Re:Can no longer access photo stats on flickr.com

2009-05-29 Thread Brian
Hi again.
Wanted to post this as I re-downloaded version 2.1 23rd May 09 and I 
don't suffer the problem on Flickr, so something has changed on the 
test build.
Regards.
Brian



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