Re: Netsurf versions

2023-06-27 Thread Chris Newman
In article , DB  wrote:
> In message <5abaa82a53...@npost.uk> Chris Newman  wrote:

> > Hi,

> > If I use !Fetch_NS  I get version Dev C1# 5433.

> > If I go through the  Download latest NetSurf fro th browser itself I
> > get version Dev C1# 5415.

> > Would someone kindly explain?

> Perhaps the announcement by Michael Drake about a new toolchain
> (https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/1/topics/17766) is the
> explanation.

> Using Frank de Bruijn's latest version of Fetch_NS (2.50 17-03-2023)
> allows the user to select those versions built with the new toolchain
> by setting "Set Fetch_NS$NewToolchain 1" (without the quotes) in the
> settings file.

The new toolchain version I downloaded has nothing on the icon bar menu
to distiguish it from the other flavour.

Using the link within the above topics link thus 

https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D

I see the list of builds but as folk have noticed, the number order is
muddled.
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Netsurf versions

2023-06-26 Thread Chris Newman
Hi,

If I use !Fetch_NS  I get version Dev C1# 5433.

If I go through the  Download latest NetSurf fro th browser itself I get
version Dev C1# 5415.

Would someone kindly explain?
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New address

2022-12-03 Thread Chris Newman
I ave a new e-address

cj...@npost.uk

CanI start using it for this group, please.

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Re: Online converters

2022-01-31 Thread Chris Newman
In article <59b2e89e73li...@torrens.org>,
   Richard Torrens (lists)  wrote:
> Has anyone found a file converter that will work with Netsurf?

> I am looking for docx  to pdf.

Techwriter will do that on a RISC OS machine.

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Re: Fetch_NS

2021-10-06 Thread Chris Newman
In article <5977325942d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave 
wrote:
> In article , David Higton
> wrote:
> > In message <5976cc379ed...@triffid.co.uk> Dave 
> >   wrote:

> > > In article <62f3ba7659.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>, David Higton
> > >wrote: [Snippy]
> > > 
> > > > The snag is that, as Dave Triffid has told us, more than one
> > > > CertData file may exist, possibly in the multiple-choices path. 
> > > > So an updater may update /a/ CertData file, but not necessarily
> > > > /the/ /correct/ one. I don't know how to solve that.
> > > 
> > > > My thinking is one stage on, anyway.  There's no point in putting
> > > > the path in the !Run file, as it's standard, and is baked into
> > > > AcornSSL, curl, and who knows what else.  Anywhere else is open
> > > > to failure by either updating something other than the standard
> > > > CertData file, or not updating anything.
> > > 
> > > > David
> > > 
> > > This has become an interesting thread... :-)

> > It has, hasn't it?  I'm quite enjoying this! :-)

> > > I thought I'd have a check on my 6.20 and see how many CertData
> > > files I could find...
> > > 
> > > Eventually I just found the two previously noted ones.
> > > 
> > > ...!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.CertData (The one in use).
> > > And ...!Boot.Resources.!Internet.files.CertData (This one I've
> > > named out, and so far no apps have complained or fallen over).

> > Interesting.  That's the correct place for it in RISC OS 5, but
> > apparently not in earlier versions.

> Indeed, I've checked on my RPCEmu RISC OS 5.28 install.

Ditto here.

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Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-16 Thread Chris Newman
In article <20180815202235.gs13...@platypus.pepperfish.net>,
   Rob Kendrick  wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 09:19:02PM +0100, Chris Newman wrote:
> >
> > I got one of these but my mail was posted anyway. (see above). I'm confused
> > (normal state).
> > 
> > "You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
> > been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
> > being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
> > netsurf-dev-ow...@netsurf-browser.org."

> Look carefully at the To: field in the email you sent: you also send it
> to our developer's list, which I assume you are not subscribed to.

Ah! I  just chose reply to mail list in Pluto. I've done that now & only see 

netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org

in the To field.

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Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Chris Newman
On 15 Aug, cvj...@waitrose.com wrote:
> In article <54ae062857.ke...@talktalk.net>,
>Kevin Wells  wrote:
> > In message <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>
> >   Michael Drake  wrote:

> > >
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >Could people please test build #4403 or later?  (Or build from
> > >latest master, if you compile from source.)

> > >
> > Seems to work OK with RISC OS on build 4407

> 4410 seems to be OK here on RiscPC Strong ARMv4 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod.

I got one of these but my mail was posted anyway. (see above). I'm confused
(normal state).

"You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
netsurf-dev-ow...@netsurf-browser.org."

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Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Chris Newman
In article <54ae062857.ke...@talktalk.net>,
   Kevin Wells  wrote:
> In message <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>
>   Michael Drake  wrote:

> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >Could people please test build #4403 or later?  (Or build from
> >latest master, if you compile from source.)

> >
> Seems to work OK with RISC OS on build 4407

4410 seems to be OK here on RiscPC Strong ARMv4 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod.

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Re: Page which doed not display properly

2018-03-09 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Jim Nagel  wrote:



> (Meanwhile my Netsurf "welcome" page does include Tim's welcome 
> workaround from 2016nov, to indicate Javascript on/off status.)

Mine doesn't. Boo, hoo. More details, please.

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Re: online telephone directory

2018-02-07 Thread Chris Newman
In article <8471a5c556@6.abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel
 wrote:

> Sigh.  BT has yet again redesigned the front-end of its online phonebook: 
>  http://thephonebook.bt.com Do F8 in Netsurf and admire the pretty layout
> of the code.

I tried that link in Netsurf & got a failed to verify certificate message.
Edge in W10 gave me a This site is not secure message.

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Re: Pane srolling and searching

2017-11-08 Thread Chris Newman
In article <5697c374a7li...@torrens.org>,
   Richard Torrens (lists)  wrote:
> http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F207018
> is an odd page - it has 6 lists within panes.

> I was searching for "Anglian" within the window...


Was that "Anglian Windows," the well known double glazing firm???!!!

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Re: Page causes crash

2017-10-30 Thread Chris Newman
In article <56932513adli...@torrens.org>, Richard Torrens (lists)
 wrote:
> This may not be a Netsurf thing, but it happens rarely on anything other
> than Nersurf.

> The whole of this ARMX6's networking crashes. The only way I have found to
> recover is a reset.

> I have found a page which seems to cause this fairly reliably:
> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/water-vole-hole.html


> Does this happen to anyone else? RO 5.23 (29-Jun-16) NS 3.8 (Dev CI #4238)
> and earlier versions for some time.

Works on RiscPC with Netsurf  3.8 Dev CI #4238 JS on. Pictures show OK.
Reminds me of "Tales of the Riverbank" BBC TV I think. You have to be of a
certain age to remember that.

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Re: NetSurf failing at startup

2017-07-10 Thread Chris Newman
In article <565961bfecstuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>,
   lists  wrote:
> In article <56591fa972stuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>,
>lists  wrote:
> > I accept this might be "bad form" to post it here but I think this might
> > be specific to my setup. NetSurf crashes out when attempting to load for
> > the first time, even after a complete computer switch-off and re-start.
> > All other programs seem to be running normally.

> > Kinetic RPC, RO 4.39

> Problem now solved. This started two days ago and I sat and thought what I
> had done that could cause a problem. I had installed some free fonts
> provided by Mathew Phillips, FreeMono, FreeSans and FreeSerif.

> http://sinenomine.co.uk/software/freefonts.zip

> After I had removed these (FreeMono required a shutdown and Shift power-up
> to avoid the computer running !Boot) all seems to be back to normal. It
> would seem that FreeMono was the culprit.

Interesting. I tried to add those fonts to Easy Font Pro (APDL) and it
crashed irredeemably Had to re-install it.

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Re: Unable to Fetch document

2017-06-01 Thread Chris Newman
In article <000450a6.01e9b4901...@smtp.freeola.net>, Peter Slegg
 wrote:

> This page always returns "Unable to fetch document" on the Atari 4088 m68k
> build.

> https://blog.backyardworlds.org/2017/05/19/thirteen-brown-dwarf-candidates-and-our-sensitivity-limits/

> Just wondered if other builds behave the same ?


Took ges to open on my RiscPC with 3.7 (Dev CI#4095) but got there
eventually. Just seemed to be text in monochrome.

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Re: KYP West

2017-04-04 Thread Chris Newman
In article <562774ffd8bbai...@argonet.co.uk>,
   Brian  wrote:
> In article , Jim Nagel
>  wrote:
> > Brian [Bailey, we discover] wrote on 26 Mar: (re
> >   http://www.kypwest.org.uk )

> > > The site now seems to load but accessing individual geographic areas
> > > gets the following,

> > > Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an
> > > upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request GET
> > > /kyp/southglos. Reason: Error reading from remote server

> > The Know Your Place site itself (http://kypwest.org.uk) seems to load
> > OK, but the indiv geographical areas you call pages from the Bristol
> > city council site, e.g. http://maps.bristol.gov.uk/kyp/?edition=glos

> > The page for the exhibition at Wells (near me) is also hosted on an
> > outside site (https://bishopspalace.org.uk), and Netsurf unforch has
> > pictures on top of text etc.

> So it does.

> > I know not whether the shortcoming is in Netsurf or in nonstandard
> > coding of the site, of course.

> I guess that the latter might probably be the case. Nonetheless it would
> be interesting to see what NatSurf can do with it in the fullness of time.

> > But thanks for the pointer, Brian.  Will mention Know Your Place in the
> > local conservation newsletter I do.

> Well, KYP is of course of some limited interest, but at least three men
> and a dog locally definitely think it's a great idea. As a community
> project I feel that it has merit. It certainly is of historical interest
> and has come up with a number of surprises for me.

Also useful in genealogy research. In one of the old maps I found a street
(now disappeared) where some ancestors lived.

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Re: Website not renendering correctly

2016-11-26 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   David Pitt  wrote:
> Peter Slegg, on 26 Nov, wrote:

> > 
> > > Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 21:33:31 + (GMT) From: Chris Newman
> > >  Subject: Website not renendering correctly To:
> > > netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org Message-ID:
> > > <55e4bd72e6cvj...@waitrose.com> Hi,
> > >
> > > http://www.bapfish.org.uk/networking.htm
> > >
> > > Which formally worked splendidly has now gone mammaries skyward. From at
> > > least #3784 on it seems.
> > >
> > > Still OK in the old Netsurf 3.5.
> > >
> > > Has been confirmed by others.
> > >
> > 
> > On Vn 3784 Atari, it appears much the same, three lines of text all
> > stacked on top of each other.

> Set "Hide advertisements".

Ah! Now works again with that setting. How perceptive of you.

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Website not renendering correctly

2016-11-25 Thread Chris Newman
Hi,

http://www.bapfish.org.uk/networking.htm

Which formally worked splendidly has now gone mammaries skyward. From at
least #3784 on it seems.

Still OK in the old Netsurf 3.5.

Has been confirmed by others.

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Re: Amazon crash

2016-09-29 Thread Chris Newman
In article <001bd4fa.01efd4902...@smtp.freeola.net>,
   Peter Slegg  wrote:
> I had a repeatable crash when opening www.amazon.co.uk with
> Atari build 3699. I replaced it with Atari build 3722 but it
> does the same.

> I can raise a bug but it would be useful to know if others have the
> same problem.


Works OK here on RiscPC Strong ARMv4 Adjust 4.39 with 3.5 & 3.6 Dev #3722 so
seems to be an Atari problem.

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Re: Big push on testing needed

2016-01-27 Thread Chris Newman
In article <3bc72c4755.davem...@my.inbox.com>,
   Dave Higton  wrote:
> Big news...

> Current test (CI) builds are now release candidates.  Yes, a new
> release of NetSurf is imminent.

> Please, everybody, download the latest test build (which will,
> of course, change as bugs are found and fixed), give it a good
> thrashing, and get your bug reports in.

> Please also note that, since it's now close to release time, the
> Javascript setting in Choices->Content is obeyed (and has been
> for a couple of days or so now).

Greetings from sunny Australia (gloat, gloat),

The 38 Degrees petition page at

https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/Scotland-stop-CETA

Is a bit of a pigs dinner. It takes ages to load, frames overlap & the
signing link doesn't work.

Dev CI #3315   on  Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39
Same effects with JS on or off.

Works OK using Maxthon browser on the Windows side.

Does anyone see the same effects?

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Re: Route planner

2015-11-09 Thread Chris Newman
In article <54033.82.153.33.53.1447103975.squir...@email.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
   Gerald Dodson  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The AA Route Planner at
> >
> >   http://www.theaa.com/route-planner/classic/planner_places_redirect.jsp
> >
> > used to work with Netsurf & seems not to anymore.
> > Does anyone know of a route planner which does?
> >

> No. I have had to go to a PC or tablet lately. I tried very recently,
> although not the very latest build of NS with JS.

Yep. I've tried the RAC & various others to no avail.

> The best route planner
> by far was the government supported Transport Direct which was withdrawn
> September 2014? Not only did it work with NS but gave an integrated
> approach, buses, trains, car. It was well tuned to traffic conditions. Day
> and time of day gave different times. Some others do this, but do not seem
> to be as good.

Yes. That was excellent. Why did they take it down. Cutbacks, I suppose.

> Gerald

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Route planner

2015-11-09 Thread Chris Newman
Hi,

The AA Route Planner at  

  http://www.theaa.com/route-planner/classic/planner_places_redirect.jsp

used to work with Netsurf & seems not to anymore.
Does anyone know of a route planner which does?

Cheers,

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Re: New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability

2015-09-29 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Jim Nagel  wrote:
> Dave Higton  wrote on 21 Sep:

> > I downloaded the latest CI build of NS yesterday.  There hasn't been
> > one for quite a while.  I noticed that it doesn't crash when opening a
> > sport page of the BBC News website, for example.  This is a big
> > improvement.
> > I think we're seeing evidence of big changes within Netsurf.

> Anybody concur?

> I'm on #2935 (Aug 25) and have been suffering a great many sites that 
> time out with no display at all.  Sometimes hourglassing goes on 
> forever and there's nothing for it but Alt-Break to kill Netsurf.  
> Some of these cases will succeed if I relaunch Netsurf, switch off 
> Javascript from its iconbar menu, and only then reload the site.

Same here with #2964

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Re: Google

2015-05-11 Thread Chris Newman
In article <6fb323c254@abbeypress.net>,
   Jim Nagel  wrote:
> Richard Porter  wrote on 8 May:
> > I think it's absolutely essential that we have a javascript on/off
> > button on the toolbar. If javescript is off google won't work and if
> > it's on streetmap.co.uk won't work.

> I fourth the motion.

I fifth, sixth, seventh nth the motion.

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Re: Updated disc cache summary

2015-04-09 Thread Chris Newman
In article <55256ea0.8010...@netsurf-browser.org>,
   Michael Drake  wrote:


> On 08/04/15 12:41, Chris Newman wrote:

> > So given all this, on my RiscPC Strong ARMv4 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod, to 
> > what
> > should I set the Cache parameters in NetSurf Choices?

> Too slow to be useful.  Set disc cache size to 0.

Ta.

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Re: Updated disc cache summary

2015-04-08 Thread Chris Newman
In article <20150408104544.gg18...@kyllikki.org>,
   Vincent Sanders  wrote:
> Just to summarise the outcome of all the observations on the improved
> disc cache.

> The improvements make the cache viable on many more supported systems,
> including more RISC OS systems.

> On PC with modern OS it made no great improvement as their OS could
> already cope with the directory layout and had a plentiful write speed
> already.

> No test I ran on PC saw the write rate, before or after the changes,
> drop below 30 megabytes a second. Although the updated cache does use
> less processor time to achieve its results.

> On RISC OS the benefit is stark and very clear. Most tests show a five
> fold or more improvement in write performace using the new code and
> many fewer directories created.


So given all this, on my RiscPC Strong ARMv4 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod, to what
should I set the Cache parameters in Netsurf Choices? 

Will the cache automaticaly be made in
IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf

Regards,

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Re: Avaaz fails to open

2014-09-14 Thread Chris Newman
In article <54472cbd3fch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>,
   cj  wrote:
> In article <5236204754.davem...@my.inbox.com>,
>Dave Higton  wrote:
> > Fails for me here with 2107 (Iyonix, RO 5.20); lots of hour glasses,
> > nothing gets written to the window within any reasonable time.

> OK. I have now turned JS on and it does indeed hourglass on and off
> for ages. Clicking the 'stop loading' button allows the load to stop
> without crashing.

> The short answer then is that it is a javascript problem - Netsurf
> doesn't do javascript very well at all at the moment.

> I would respectively suggest that any problem page should be checked
> with JS off as well as on before reporting it as a bug. Version 2.9,
> of course, had no javascript so that is why it loads the page.

You're absolutely right. JS off - the link works. Duh! I knew about the JS
on/off business but had forgotten all about it. Senility rules OK. 
Now, if there was a JS on/off button on the Netsurf page instead of delving
into Choices that would be nice. Hope springs eternal.

Thanks anyway for pointing out the bleedin' obvious.

Regards,

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Re: Avaaz fails to open

2014-09-14 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Tony Moore  wrote:
> On 14 Sep 2014, Chris Newman  wrote:

> > https://secure.avaaz.org/en/100_clean_final/?blWdqbb&signup=1&cl=5812635881&v=45416
> >
> > fails to open  in 3.3 (#2106), or 3.2 but does open in 2.9. albeit
> > with lots of warnings about safety certificates.

> The link opens here with NS #2107 (and #2078) on RiscPC, RO 6.20.
> However the 'Find an event' button doesn't work, because it needs JS at
> a level not yet supported by NS.

Perhaps it's something to do with Adjust. Other flavours of RiscOS seem to
work.

> [snip]

> > I baulk at the idea of sending a bug report as the process seems so
> > arcane.

> No hassle at http://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/ . Create an account, if
> you don't have one, then click on 'Report Issue'. In the 'Reported in CI
> build #' field, enter the number without the '#', otherwise a posting
> error will occur. After completing the form, click _adjust_ on 'Submit
> Report' so that, if a posting error does occur, you are able to return
> to the completed form, without re-typing the data.

Thanks. Very clear I'll give it a whirl tomorrow.

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Avaaz fails to open

2014-09-14 Thread Chris Newman
Hi,

This link.

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/100_clean_final/?blWdqbb&signup=1&cl=5812635881&v=45416

fails to open  in 3.3 (#2106), or 3.2 but does open in 2.9. albeit with lots
of warnings about safety certificates.

RiscPC Strong ARMv4 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod

Can anyone else verify this? 

I baulk at the idea of sending a bug report as the process seems so arcane.

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Re: password manager

2014-09-13 Thread Chris Newman
On 13 Sep, cvj...@waitrose.com wrote:
> In article <59e2364654@abbeypress.net>,
>Jim Nagel  wrote:
> > Dave Higton  wrote on 12 Sep (his tagline to a post in a diff thread,
> > "dropzone on a web page":

> > > 
> > > Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password?
> > > Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account.
> > > Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/password-manager

> > Trouble is, this gives a Windows .exe file.
> > (Dave, do you recommend this in your Windows work, or
> > is it just something appended by your email provider?)

> > What would people recommend to do the same job in Ro?

> CrypStore  by Frank de Bruijn

> http://aconet.org/crypstor/

> I use it all the time. A great application.



On the Windows side I use Efficient Password Manager.

http://www.efficientsoftware.net/passwordmanager/

KeePass also comes highly recommended

http://keepass.info/

These are both free.

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Re: password manager

2014-09-13 Thread Chris Newman
In article <544638b56bcvj...@waitrose.com>,
   Chris Newman  wrote:
> In article <59e2364654@abbeypress.net>,
>Jim Nagel  wrote:
> > Dave Higton  wrote on 12 Sep (his tagline to a post in a diff thread,
> > "dropzone on a web page":

> > > 
> > > Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password?
> > > Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account.
> > > Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/password-manager

> > Trouble is, this gives a Windows .exe file.
> > (Dave, do you recommend this in your Windows work, or
> > is it just something appended by your email provider?)

> > What would people recommend to do the same job in Ro?

> CrypStore  by Frank de Bruijn

> http://aconet.org/crypstor/

> I use it all the time. A great application.

Er! Jim, I wrote an article about this in a certain learned, but obviously
obscure magazine. See Archive 23 no 3 page 23. (Physician, heal thy self!!!).

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Re: password manager

2014-09-12 Thread Chris Newman
In article <59e2364654@abbeypress.net>,
   Jim Nagel  wrote:
> Dave Higton  wrote on 12 Sep (his tagline to a post in a diff thread,
> "dropzone on a web page":

> > 
> > Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password?
> > Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account.
> > Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/password-manager

> Trouble is, this gives a Windows .exe file.
> (Dave, do you recommend this in your Windows work, or
> is it just something appended by your email provider?)

> What would people recommend to do the same job in Ro?

CrypStore  by Frank de Bruijn

http://aconet.org/crypstor/

I use it all the time. A great application.

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Re: Broken directory

2013-06-29 Thread Chris Newman
In article <20130629072100.gc8...@pepperfish.net>,
   Rob Kendrick  wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 04:45:04PM +, Christopher Dewhurst wrote:
> > Not sure if this is a Netsurf or RISC OS specific thing but I noticed 
> > Netsurf was reverting to default choices and losing its hotlist. I 
> > looked at !Boot.Choices.WWW.Netsurf which reports "Broken directory" 
> > if I try to delete or move it.
> > 
> > Any way out?
> > 
> > (Using NS 3.1 Dev #1264 on Raspberry Pi but I think the problem has 
> > been around for a week or two)

> Your file system is broken.  This is a RISC OS problem as FileCore is
> delicate to crashes and power outages.  Either rename it out of the way,
> reformat/restart the whole thing, or invest in Dave Ruck's excellent
> !Disknight to fix the problem.

Very well worthwhile. It's only £10.

http://www.armclub.org.uk/products/discknight/

Cheers,

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Re: Remember this password

2013-05-31 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Peter Young  wrote:
> On 31 May 2013  cj  wrote:

> > In article ,
> >Gavin Wraith  wrote:
> >> If not, then maybe some approximation could
> >> be kludged using function keys.

> > There is always FFiller by Kevin Wells. I have found it quite useful
> > in the past. Always use it for eg ROOL forum.

A very useful programme. 
See also my article "Macros for Form Filling" - Archive Magazine Vol 22 No 7
Jan 2010 p50


> Or if you are paranoid about having visible passwords on your system, 
> CrypStor by Frank de Bruijn will store passwords encrypted. You can 
> export these passwords as a text file, then drag and drop the relevant 
> one into NetSurf, then delete the export file.

Better than that, you can enter them automatically by clicking on the
relevant button bar

> It's at http://aconet.org/crypstor/

> I didn't find it totally intuitive to start with, but I now find it 
> extremely useful.
 
Wouldn't be without it here.

Regards,

-- 
Chris



Re: Hotlist display illegible

2013-05-28 Thread Chris Newman
In article <0039c5d3.01dc65003...@smtp.freeola.net>,
   Peter Slegg  wrote:
> >
> >Message: 10
> >Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 21:51:41 +0100
> >From: Dave Higton 
> >Subject: Hotlist display illegible
> >To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> >Message-ID: <7120175353.davem...@my.inbox.com>
> >
> >The hotlist display was OK up to CI1201.  CI1212 and CI1219 display
> >the hotlist as black on black.  RISC OS 5.18, Iyonix, 512 MiB.
> >Reverted to CI1201 and it's OK again.
> >
> >I'll put in a bug report.
> >
> >Dave


> I fixed mine in the choices file:


> sys_colour_Window:ff


That worked although I have no idea quite what the arcane 6 fs actually do.
Hotlist window now has black text on a white ground. 
Wasn't the background blue or grey at one time? 
Oh well. 50 shades of grey will do.

Many thanks,

-- 
Chris



Re: Hotlist display illegible

2013-05-28 Thread Chris Newman
In article <7120175353.davem...@my.inbox.com>,
   Dave Higton  wrote:
> The hotlist display was OK up to CI1201.  CI1212 and CI1219 display
> the hotlist as black on black.  RISC OS 5.18, Iyonix, 512 MiB.
> Reverted to CI1201 and it's OK again.


#1222 still black here.

-- 
Chris



Re: Website not rendering correctly

2013-05-28 Thread Chris Newman
In article <5352e60957t...@netsurf-browser.org>,
   Michael Drake  wrote:
> In article ,
>David Pitt  wrote:

> > http://www.wealddown.co.uk

> Should be fixed in CI build #1202.

I've just got back to my machine & downloaded 1214. Lo & behold, the site
worketh. Wonderful work chaps. Much obliged.

-- 
Chris



Re: Website not rendering correctly

2013-05-28 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   David Pitt  wrote:
> Brian Howlett, on 28 May, wrote:

> > On 28 May, Chris Newman wrote:
> > 
> > > The site for the Weald & Downland Open Air Museum at Singleton, West
> > > sussex looks OK in Firefox on the PC but just displays a grey window in
> > > Netsurf.
> > 
> > URL?

> http://www.wealddown.co.uk

Sorry about the lack of URL. Brain must have slipped in to neutral!

> All is OK with NetSurf 2.9.

I thought I'd checked that but obviously not. Senior moments rule OK! I've
just tried it now & you're right.

> With NetSurf 3.0 or 3.1 #1201 the site does render only its grey background
> unless the window is maximised to occupy the full height of the display
> including covering the icon bar, in this case 1050. How very odd!
> (Javascript setting has no effect.) This with OS5.19 on a Raspberry Pi.

> The effect is confirmed on OS4.39 on VRPC with smaller screen size of
> 1280x800.

Spooky.

Thanks to all who contributed.

-- 
Chris



Website not rendering correctly

2013-05-28 Thread Chris Newman
Hi,

The site for the Weald & Downland Open Air Museum at Singleton, West sussex
looks OK in Firefox on the PC but just displays a grey window in Netsurf. 

With JS off, it starts to display a background image but soon gives up.

Probably has too much Javascript for NS to handle.

Just thought I'd mention it.

Dev 1201 on RiscPC 700 Strong Arm Adjust 4.39 with Unipod

Regards,

-- 
Chris



Re: Find !Fetch_NS

2013-03-19 Thread Chris Newman
In article , Peter Young
 wrote:


> However the (anonymous, German) author of that version, heavily modified
> from John's original, specifically asked that questions or comments about
> this version should not be posted here, but instead to c.s.a.apps.

> I suggest we take it there, where I will be pleased to try to explain how
> to configure that version, which involves changing some if its obey files.
> That is, if it's still of interest to anyone. It's certainly off-topic
> here.

As John Williams pointed out, it seems to be Frank de Bruijn. The aconet
website, which is the home of Fetch_NS has a little bit of Dutch at the top &
has the brilliant CrypStore, which I know is one of his apps.

http://aconet.org/tools/index.php

On delving a bit further into Fetch_NS, I need to alter the settings file to
tell it where my Netsurf is stored to make it work best. As suggested, I'll
now take this over to c.s.a. apps.

Thanks for help so far.

-- 
Chris



Re: Find !Fetch_NS

2013-03-18 Thread Chris Newman
In article <1850912e53.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>,
   John Rickman Iyonix  wrote:
> Chris Newman  wrote

> >> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current
> >> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has
> >> changed.

> > Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the
> > latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have
> > I missed something?

> That is the same as mine  - Fetch_NS version 2.10 of 17-12-2012 which 
> does what I said above. Before deleting the old version it also quits 
> any NetSurf that is running then restarts the new one.

> But a good day happens about one in three. More common is that it 
> forces NS to quit, deletes the current NS then fails to find the new 
> one. So I have to complete the job manually.

How odd. I see you seem to be on an Iyonix so RiscOS 6? Could that make a
difference? I can't see how. I wonder what behaviour others get. I've re-read
the idiots guide & can't see much to help but I will have a look at where I
put wget/ curl.

-- 
Chris



Re: Find !Fetch_NS

2013-03-18 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   John Rickman Iyonix  wrote:
> Michael Drake  wrote

> > In article <532e67d218cvj...@waitrose.com>,
> >Chris Newman  wrote:

> >> I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS.

> > Out of interest, why don't people just visit

> >   http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/?C=M;O=D

> > And download either of the top two archives (depending on whether they
> > want a JavaScript build), and run it like any other peice of software?

> > At least they'll know what software they're running if they fetched it
> > themselves.

> Its because, on a good day**, it will automatically delete the current 
> version of NetSurf and replace it with the latest version if it has 
> changed.

Er? My copy (2.10 of 17-12-2012) doesn't dd that. it just downloads the
latest zip file. I have to manually delete the old & instigate the new. Have
I missed something?

-- 
Chris



Re: Find !Fetch_NS

2013-03-18 Thread Chris Newman
In article <1c002746d5f.0485d...@davehigton.me.uk>,
   Dave Higton  wrote:
> > From: cvj...@waitrose.com
> > Sent: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:13:35 + (GMT)
> > To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> > Subject: Find !Fetch_NS
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. Can anyone point me in the right
> > direction
> > please. There was nothing in the help file to assist.

> It's at http://aconet.org/tools/index.php

Thanks, Dave.

-- 
Chris



Find !Fetch_NS

2013-03-18 Thread Chris Newman
Hi,

I've lost the link to !Fetch_NS. Can anyone point me in the right direction
please. There was nothing in the help file to assist.

Regards,

-- 
Chris



Re: Choices behaviour

2013-03-17 Thread Chris Newman
In article <532e0b195anetsurf-users-...@aconet.nl>,
   Frank de Bruijn  wrote:
> In article <532df8decacvj...@waitrose.com>,
>Chris Newman  wrote:
> > The file I needed to alter was.

> > !Fetch_NS.Resources.Defaults

> Only if you deleted the file .Fetch_NS.Settings.

> The Defaults file is only used (and copied as Settings to Fetch_NS's
> Choices directory) if a Settings file does not exist there already.

Thanks. I think I've found the right one now. I have Adjust 4.39 so the
settings file seemed to be here...

IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.Fetch_NS.Settings

I've changed that as well so fingers crossed.
Unfortunately, the Fetch_NS help file didn't specify too clearly where I
should look.

-- 
Chris



Re: Choices behaviour

2013-03-17 Thread Chris Newman
In article <532df87232cvj...@waitrose.com>,
   Chris Newman  wrote:
> In article ,
>Steve Fryatt  wrote:
> > On 17 Mar, Chris Newman wrote in message
> > <532df6c0f8cvj...@waitrose.com>:

> > > I thought Netsurf kept its choices within !Boot. & indeed here I have..
> > > 
> > > IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf.Choices
> > > 
> > > However, if from the iconbar I set - Content  - Disable Java script
> > > unticked, every time I reload netsurfm the tick is back. I don't think
> > > this happened previously. Has something changed? Have I missed somthing?

> > Are you sure that you're not using a "jsoff" build? IIRC that forces the
> > config option to be set regardless of what is in the Choices file.

> Could well be. You've just triggered my brain in to action (a grim task).

> Looking at !Fetch_NS which I use, the default is to download the  JSOFF
> version. I need to change the settings File. I'll explore that. Many thanks.

In reply to my reply.. 

The file I needed to alter was.

!Fetch_NS.Resources.Defaults 

I've done that now but can't test it until the next version of Netsurf is
available.

Thanks for your help.

-- 
Chris



Re: Choices behaviour

2013-03-17 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Steve Fryatt  wrote:
> On 17 Mar, Chris Newman wrote in message
> <532df6c0f8cvj...@waitrose.com>:

> > I thought Netsurf kept its choices within !Boot. & indeed here I have..
> > 
> > IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf.Choices
> > 
> > However, if from the iconbar I set - Content  - Disable Java script
> > unticked, every time I reload netsurfm the tick is back. I don't think
> > this happened previously. Has something changed? Have I missed somthing?

> Are you sure that you're not using a "jsoff" build? IIRC that forces the
> config option to be set regardless of what is in the Choices file.

Could well be. You've just triggered my brain in to action (a grim task).

Looking at !Fetch_NS which I use, the default is to download the  JSOFF
version. I need to change the settings File. I'll explore that. Many thanks.

-- 
Chris



Choices behaviour

2013-03-17 Thread Chris Newman
Hi,

I thought Netsurf kept its choices within !Boot. & indeed here I have..

IDEFS::h-4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf.Choices

However, if from the iconbar I set - Content  - Disable Java script unticked,
every time I reload netsurfm the tick is back. I don't think this happened
previously. Has something changed? Have I missed somthing?

-- 
Chris



Re: Incompatible site?

2013-03-17 Thread Chris Newman
In article <63d4d52d53.a...@ntlworld.com>,
   Rev Dr Alan Leighton  wrote:
> In message <532dd15104m...@johnwoodhouse.plus.com>
>wrote:


> > On Netsurf - all versions I have, including 3.0 (Dev# 975) Netsurf crashes
> > out on trying to access
> > www.itproportal.com/2013/02/19/10-tips-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s3/

> > Works fine on my laptop Win7

> Same with me. John. Using version  5.18 with  3.0 (Dev# 973) Netsurf 
> crashes


Serious error here too. #974  RiscPC 700 Strong Arm Adjust 4.39 with Unipod

-- 
Chris



Re: Drag 'N Drop & PayPal

2013-03-06 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   george greenfield  wrote:
> In message <5327d882facvj...@waitrose.com>
>   Chris Newman  wrote:

> > Hi,
> > 
> > Tried to purchase Drag 'N Drop magazine from
> > 
> > www.dragdrop.co.uk
> > 
> > using Dev #957 but when linking on to PayPal the page remained blank.
> > Worked OK with 2.9.
> > 
> > RiscPC 700 Strong Arm Adjust 4.39 with Unipod
> > 
> > Anybody else tried?
> > 
> #956 displays the PayPal link pages if javascript is disabled.

> George
> RPCEmu089/4.02 on Win7 64-bit

Curious. I tried json & jsoff & neither seemed to work here. Oh well,
Murphy's Law...

-- 
Chris



Drag 'N Drop & PayPal

2013-03-05 Thread Chris Newman
Hi,

Tried to purchase Drag 'N Drop magazine from

www.dragdrop.co.uk

using Dev #957 but when linking on to PayPal the page remained blank. 
Worked OK with 2.9.

RiscPC 700 Strong Arm Adjust 4.39 with Unipod

Anybody else tried?

-- 
Chris



Re: Failure to post bug report.

2013-02-26 Thread Chris Newman
On 26 Feb, cvj...@waitrose.com wrote:
> In article <14ba382453.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
>Peter Young  wrote:
> > On 26 Feb 2013  Dave Higton  wrote:

> > > In message 
> > >   Peter Young  wrote:

> > >> BTW I managed to report the bug using an older version of NetSurf;  #723 
> > >> it
> > >> was, which I happened to have lying around.

> > > I've just submitted a bug report using #949 json (JS enabled).

> > Thanks. Whatever the problem is, it looks as if it's being worked on.

> Thanks from here also.

Progress.

  
  http://www.georgesregisjazzband.com/
  
  
  http://www.document-records.com/

Both working in  #951

Well done chaps. (I don't think there are any chapesses involved).


http://www.amiga.org

Still not but I'm sure they'll get there.

-- 
Chris



Re: Failure to post bug report.

2013-02-26 Thread Chris Newman
In article <14ba382453.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
   Peter Young  wrote:
> On 26 Feb 2013  Dave Higton  wrote:

> > In message 
> >   Peter Young  wrote:

> >> BTW I managed to report the bug using an older version of NetSurf;  #723 it
> >> was, which I happened to have lying around.

> > I've just submitted a bug report using #949 json (JS enabled).

> Thanks. Whatever the problem is, it looks as if it's being worked on.

Thanks from here also.

-- 
Chris



Re: Failure to post bug report.

2013-02-26 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Peter Young  wrote:
> On 25 Feb 2013  Chris Newman  wrote:

> > In article ,
> >Peter Young  wrote:
> >> I've been trying to post this to the bug tracker:

> >> [quote]

> >> NetSurf #942 and ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 (16 May 2012).

> >> Trying to access http://www.document-records.com/ fails. It gets stuck
> >> on "Fetching, Fetching, Processing"; no timeout after two minutes,
> >> after which I got bored. This is with JavaScript either on or off. It
> >> works on Windows Firefox

> > Using #948 ditto with these...

> > http://www.georgesregisjazzband.com/

> > http://www.document-records.com/

> > Can others verify this, please? What's going on?

> BTW I managed to report the bug using an older version of NetSurf; 
> #723 it was, which I happened to have lying around.

Yes. Ta. Well done that man. I was just adding the regis jazz band site to
prove it wasn't just a one off. I didn't think you had that one when you
submitted.

-- 
Chris



Re: Failure to post bug report.

2013-02-25 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Peter Young  wrote:
> I've been trying to post this to the bug tracker:

> [quote]

> NetSurf #942 and ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 (16 May 2012).

> Trying to access http://www.document-records.com/ fails. It gets stuck 
> on "Fetching, Fetching, Processing"; no timeout after two minutes, 
> after which I got bored. This is with JavaScript either on or off. It 
> works on Windows Firefox

Using #948 ditto with these...

http://www.georgesregisjazzband.com/


http://www.document-records.com/


Can others verify this, please? What's going on?

-- 
Chris



Re: New textareas and text inputs

2013-02-12 Thread Chris Newman
In article <531d11c6f8t...@netsurf-browser.org>,
   Michael Drake  wrote:
> In article <531d105167cvj...@waitrose.com>,
>Chris Newman  wrote:
> > In article <531ce7d6b0t...@netsurf-browser.org>,
> >Michael Drake  wrote:

> > > More new features:

> > >- Double click in a textarea selects a word.
> > >- Triple click in a textarea selects a paragraph.

> > Not working here on either RiscPC 700 Strong Arm Adjust 4.39 with Unipod
> > or Virtual Acorn SA 4.02  on Windows XP laptop. I can selct drag to
> > highlight text then manipulate the selection, which works much better
> > than before. Maybe it's something to do with what you allude to in your
> > next paragraph but being a bear of little brain that's beyond me.

> Strange.  Anyone else got this problem, or got it working?

> Remember, this behaviour is only for inside form textareas.  Double or
> triple clicking on text that's part of the normal web page content won't
> do anything.

Ah! You didn't explain that. I was doing it in normal page content.
I'll go & lie down in a darkened room now..

-- 
Chris



Re: New textareas and text inputs

2013-02-12 Thread Chris Newman
In article <531ce7d6b0t...@netsurf-browser.org>,
   Michael Drake  wrote:
> In article <531c85f3cdt...@netsurf-browser.org>,
>Michael Drake  wrote:

> >   New features:

> > - The textarea is auto scrolled as you drag a selection.

> More new features:

>- Double click in a textarea selects a word.
>- Triple click in a textarea selects a paragraph.

Not working here on either RiscPC 700 Strong Arm Adjust 4.39 with Unipod or
Virtual Acorn SA 4.02  on Windows XP laptop.
I can selct drag to highlight text then manipulate the selection, which works
much better than before. Maybe it's something to do with what you allude to
in your next paragraph but being a bear of little brain that's beyond me.

Cheers, 

> Note that this depends on the front end passing the double and triple
> click events to the core.  I have updated the GTK, Framebuffer and RISC OS
> front ends to do so.

-- 
Chris




Re: avaaz.org problem

2013-01-20 Thread Chris Newman
In article <5311076574bbai...@argonet.co.uk>,
   Brian Bailey  wrote:

> > > > > When sending a petition to avaaz.org 
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_frankenfish_r/?blOZUcb&v=21102
> > > > > 
> > > > > NetSurf goes into a loop. alt-break froze the machine necessitating 
> > > > > 
> > I just tried signing another at...

> http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Investigate_landgrabbers_in_Cambodia_and_remove_their_trade_privileges/?blWdqbb&v=20972";

> > re cambodian farmers & just got an endless revolving circle & gave up
> > after a while.

> > So my previous success was premature, it seems.

> > Oh chagrine

> Well, something odd seems to be happening. I tried that URL which went
> into a loop for a while and came out at,

> http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Investigate_landgrabbers_in_Cambodia_and_remove_their_trade_privileges/

Same here. Perhaps it's something at hteir end, not a Netsurf problem.

Cheers,

-- 
Chris



Re: avaaz.org problem

2013-01-20 Thread Chris Newman
In article <530ff3bf54bbai...@argonet.co.uk>,
   Brian Bailey  wrote:
> In article <20130118094055.gp15...@pepperfish.net>,
>Rob Kendrick  wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 07:53:38AM +, Brian Bailey wrote:
> > > When sending a petition to avaaz.org 
> > > 
> > > http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_frankenfish_r/?blOZUcb&v=21102
> > > 
> > > NetSurf goes into a loop. alt-break froze the machine necessitating a
> > > ctrl-break re-set.

> > Unfortunately I cannot test this without signing a petition I don't
> > agree with.  

> Quite understood. I thought that might arise.

> > Does it happen on other petitions on the site?

> No idea. I'll see what happens. I just wait for notification.

I just tried signing another at...

http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Investigate_landgrabbers_in_Cambodia_and_remove_their_trade_privileges/?blWdqbb&v=20972";

re cambodian farmers & just got an endless revolving circle & gave up after a
while.

So my previous success was premature, it seems.

Oh chagrine

-- 
Chris



Re: avaaz.org problem

2013-01-19 Thread Chris Newman
In article <9ba3fe0f53.chris@viloma>,
   Christopher Dewhurst  wrote:
> In message <530fdd38f3bbai...@argonet.co.uk>
>   Brian Bailey  wrote:

> > When sending a petition to avaaz.org

> > http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_frankenfish_r/?blOZUcb&v=21102


> > NetSurf goes into a loop. alt-break froze the machine necessitating a
> > ctrl-break re-set.

> > RISC OS 4.02 A7000+ NetSurf #816

> It works ok here. Iyonix RISC OS 5.18. Slightly earlier Netsurf #812
> Regards,

Worked OK here (In Australia) with 817 with JavaScript on. I just signed the
one about gentically modified salmon.

-- 
Chris



Re: Controlling Javascript

2013-01-14 Thread Chris Newman
In article <20130114130007.gd15...@pepperfish.net>,
   Rob Kendrick  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:44:37PM +0000, Chris Newman wrote:
> > Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my
> > version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever that
> > means.

> There are two builds of each version; -json (JavaScript on) and -jsoff
> (JavaScript off).  This does not reflect the default setting, it's imply
> that the -jsoff builds do not include any JavaScript functionality at
> all.

> If you're running a release version (did you say what version you were
> running, and where you got it from) then the whole of the above is moot:
> we've not made a release with JavaScript support, only test versions.

I get the test versions using !Fetch_NS. I'm now up to 809.
JavaScript option now duly found.

Ta,

-- 
Chris



Re: Controlling Javascript

2013-01-14 Thread Chris Newman
In article <444ae90d53.c.n@virgin.net>, ChrisF  wrote:
> In message <530de884c2cvj...@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
>wrote:

> > In article , Harriet Bazley
> > wrote:
> >> On 14 Jan 2013 as I do recall, Chris Newman  wrote:

> >> I'm assuming that the -jsoff versions don't have this extra option icon
> >> at all, since the -json versions seem to have the Disable option set by
> >> default.   (Probably wisest as it makes the application less stable.)

> > Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my
> > version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever
> > that means.

> >> Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of
> >> the versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!)

> > -- Chris

> Think she means javasoft on and javasoft off. If a  version of netsurf is
> pre java soft, there isnt a json or jsoff option in the menu cos its not
> relevant.

Ah! Obvious now.Ta.

-- 
Chris



Re: Controlling Javascript

2013-01-14 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Harriet Bazley  wrote:
> On 14 Jan 2013 as I do recall,
>   Chris Newman  wrote:

> > Hi,
> >
> > Sojourning temporarily in Australia, I've not kept au fait with all the
> > latest postings so could somebody please remind me how to enable/disable
> > JavaScript.
> >

> Iconbar menu: Choices->Content
> Disable JavaScript on/off.

Thanks, Harriet. Found that now.

> I'm assuming that the -jsoff versions don't have this extra option icon
> at all, since the -json versions seem to have the Disable option set by
> default.   (Probably wisest as it makes the application less stable.)

Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my
version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever that
means.

> Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of
> the versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!)

-- 
Chris



Controlling Javascript

2013-01-13 Thread Chris Newman
Hi,

Sojourning temporarily in Australia, I've not kept au fait with all the
latest postings so could somebody please remind me how to enable/disable
JavaScript.

I'm using Virtual Acorn SA 4.02  on Windows XP laptop & am up to test build,
809. I have merged the latest !Boot & !System to make sure I'm up to date.

I've checke the user information in the documentation & it still says
there is no support for JavaScript.

Yours in the usual confusion,

-- 
Chris



Re: BBC news site misbehaving.

2012-11-28 Thread Chris Newman
In article <8b63d0f552.c.n@virgin.net>,
   ChrisF  wrote:
> In message <50839.81.147.79.162.1354120626.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.c 
> o.uk>
>   "Learning Partners"  wrote:


> > I do not know of !Ticker - will google it - but what does it do and is it
> > IYO friendly?

> I run it (v 25.11.11)on the Iyo 5.16 and the Armini.
> It's a news ticker which runs across the screen. You can place it at 
> the top or bottom. You can choose your newsfeed from within its 
> choices. Sorry, I don't know the source.

Try

http://www.youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk/progs.apps.html#ticker

or you might like Sargasso at...

http://zamez.org/sargasso

Cheers

-- 
Chris



Re: NetSurf Developer Workshop

2012-11-07 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Harriet Bazley  wrote:
> On 5 Nov 2012 as I do recall,
>   Vincent Sanders  wrote:

> > We held our latest developer workshop this weekend, I have written
> > about it on my blog[1] for those who might be interested in what we got
> > up to.
> >
> > [1]http://vincentsanders.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/another-netsurf-developer-workshop.html
> >
> Ninety-six man-hours of work - impressive!   (And I like/approve of the
> way that the goals included *removing* a large amount of code)

Er! Being PC, Harriet, shouldn't that be person hours???

Yours, very tongue in cheek...!!!

-- 
Chris



Re: NetSurf Developer Workshop

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Tony Moore  wrote:
> On 5 Nov 2012, george greenfield 
> wrote:
> > In message <65188.62.172.88.217.1352127050.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.c
> > o.uk> "Learning Partners"  wrote:
> >
> > > Massive thanks are due to all involved. I look forward to the next
> > > stable release and the javascript implementation.
> >
> > Seconded, with feeling! I hadn't expected to see /any/ form of
> > javascript on NetSurf in the medium term, let alone before Christmas
> > (and yes, I do appreciate it is not a complete implementation), so am
> > looking forward eagerly to what will be a significant step forward for
> > both browser and platform. I'm using 3.0 Dev. CI #590 at the moment
> > and already it is a considerable advance on 2.9 - the rate of progress
> > is impressive and a credit to the developers.

> Agreed. Many thanks indeed.

Ditto. Excellent work. Wishing you all success.

-- 
Chris



Re: Fetching NetSurf

2012-10-13 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Tim Powys-Lybbe  wrote:
> On 13 Oct at 21:06, Frank de Bruijn  wrote:

> > In article <52de2a7a21ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>,
> >cj  wrote:
> > > In article <52de202c94netsurf-...@aconet.nl>,
> > >Frank de Bruijn  wrote:
> > > > Google directed me to 7.11.0 by James Bursa and that's one of the
> > > > ones that fail.
> > 
> > > That's the one I used (7.11.0) which did work on the Iyonix (RISC OS
> > > 5.19, 4-Oct-2012).
> > 
> > Thanks, but I've got it working now. Some completely forgotten rc file
> > was interfering.

> Thanks to everyone for sorting out how to get it, though I did not get
> the above rc problem.

> And Netsurf 3.0 (Dev C1 #463) now works well, so more thanks.

Ditto here. Thanks for #463 & Fetch_NS

-- 
Chris



Re: Development builds available / Boot and System changes

2012-10-10 Thread Chris Newman
In article <2348b5dc52@nails.abbeypress.net>,
   Jim Nagel  wrote:



> I suggest this simple textfile stating a "latest change" date because
> it's tedious to go through the process of merging !Boot and !System on
> three separate machines every time a new test build of Netsurf is
> installed, when in fact nothing has changed.

Good idea, Jim. Even simpler, maybe, just a note to say that one of the
items in the list changed recently or maybe just an asterisk or
something by one that (for those of us who have never bothered to look
at those date stamps!!)

Personally, I gave up constantly merging !Boot & !System. I just rely on
Netsurf complaining if something ain't right.

Regards,

-- 
Chris



Re: Could someone look at

2012-10-09 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Alan Leighton  wrote:
> In message  co.uk>
>   "Chris Young"  
> wrote:

> > On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:12:54 +0100, lists wrote:

> >> Could someone else take a look at:
> >> 
> >> http://www.audon.co.uk/usb_scopes/gcr101.html
> >> 
> >> Here it looks like the page is about 200 yards wide.

> With you on this one.
> >> 
> >> Netsurf 2.9 (27th Feb 2012)

> > http://www.amigans.net/ has gone wide recently too, but I suspect
> > that's a different problem, as it is fine in NetSurf 2.9 and not so
> > fine in NetSurf 3.0 (revision 9cb4d0, a couple of days old)

> It is fine on my set up,

Also fine here   Dev C1 #417  on  RiscPC 700  Adjust 4.39 with Unipod

-- 
Chris



Re: NetSurf running out of memory

2012-10-08 Thread Chris Newman
In article <5e3e71db52.a...@ntlworld.com>,
   Alan Leighton  wrote:
> In message <409167db52.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>
>   John Rickman Iyonix  wrote:

> > Alan Leighton  wrote

> snip

> >> I tried it out and had no problems and that is odd for me ;-)

> > Thanks Alan,

> > That is curious. Are you using Iyonix 5.18?

> Yes

> > Could you confirm that

> >   http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/songaf.html

> > which also gives me an out of memory message works for you?

> It is fine

Fine here with 2.9 but got "Out of memory" message with
netsurf-2012-10-08_10-50-07

RiscPC 700  Adjust 4.39 with Unipod

-- 
Chris



Re: Could someone look at

2012-10-08 Thread Chris Newman
In article <035856db52.geo...@tiscali..co.uk>,
   george greenfield  wrote:
> In message <52db26483astuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>
>   lists  wrote:

> > Could someone else take a look at:
> > 
> > http://www.audon.co.uk/usb_scopes/gcr101.html
> > 
> > Here it looks like the page is about 200 yards wide.
> > 
> > Netsurf 2.9 (27th Feb 2012)
> > 
 Ditto on 2.9 & netsurf-2012-10-08_10-50-07 

RiscPC 700  Adjust 4.39

-- 
Chris



Re: NetSurf running out of memory

2012-10-08 Thread Chris Newman
In article <53db66db52.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
   Peter Young  wrote:
> On 8 Oct 2012  John Rickman Iyonix  wrote:


> > I have hit three more pages that give the out of memory message using
> > the latest test version (netsurf-2012-10-07_21-57-22/zip)

> >  click on:  http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/kinder.htm

> > This will show a page of images.
> > Click on either the bicycle or the kayak and (on my Iyonix running
> > 5.18) a warning message pops up saying that NetSurf is running out of
> > memory and the URL is not displayed.

> > If someone can confirm that this is not unique to my setup I will post
> > a bug report.

> Yes, it does that here too, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 and the latest 
> test-build.

And here.  RiscPC 700  Adjust 4.39
  
netsurf-2012-10-08_10-50-07

-- 
Chris



Re: Request for feedback

2012-10-07 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Chris Young  wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 16:45:03 +0100, John-Mark Bell wrote:

> > On Sat, 2012-10-06 at 01:14 +, Chris Young wrote:
> > > Platform: AmigaOS 4.1
> > > File: NetSurf-2012-10-05_23-21-14.lha
> > > URL: http://www.danvk.org/wp/dragtable
> > > 
> > > The above site freezes NetSurf as it fetches/displays.  I can't
> > > reproduce on the same Windows auto-build and have no way of testing on
> > > any of the other builds currently.
> > 
> > We can't reproduce this either, which suggests that it's an
> > Amiga-specific issue. That page does contain copious amounts of
> > non-latin text, if that helps.

> It just appears to terminate without warning, which is odd (and I
> don't see what would cause this?)

> I'll try with one of my own builds in case it's something specific to
> CI.
 Tried this site on RiscPC 700  Adjust 4.39 with Unipod & it loaded OK but
when I used the toggle size icon the page went completely blank. Using the
adjust size icon was OK.
I got this effect with  netsurf-2012-10-06_21-20-50   & 2.9 so probably site
related problem.

-- 
Chris



Re: Crashes on sites with frames

2012-10-06 Thread Chris Newman
In article <2fbe7cda52.wra...@wra1th.plus.com>,
   Gavin Wraith  wrote:
> > On 6 Oct 2012  John-Mark Bell  wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, 2012-10-06 at 16:31 +0100, Chris Gransden wrote:
> > >> Platform  RISC OS
> > >> OS5.19  on Pandaboard
> > >> version   netsurf-2012-10-06_14-18-18/zip
> > >> browsing  http://www.archivemag.co.uk
> > >> error log
> > 
> > > Fixed.
> > 
> > So it is. Blimey, that was quick; many thanks!

> Unfortunately, at least for me (Iyonix RO 5.18),
> netsurf-2012-10-06_14-18-18/zip crashes on http://www.archivemag.co.uk/

I was about to report Archive mag sit was working on RiscPC 700  Adjust 4.39
using previous build but then I saw the fix & got
netsurf-2012-10-06_14-18-18/zip now it crashes...

(0.00) desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 159: version '3.0 (Development)'
(0.00) desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 166: NetSurf on , node
, release <4.39>, version <20040511-001>, machine 
(0.00) desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 168: Using 'NetSurf:Choices' for
Options file
(0.04) image/image_cache.c image_cache_init 380: Image cache initilised
with a limit of 550502 hysteresis of 110100
(0.08) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_register 166: curl_version
libcurl/7.27.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1c zlib/1.2.7 c-ares/1.9.1
(0.20) utils/useragent.c user_agent_build_string 72: Built user agent
"NetSurf/3.0 (RISC OS; armv4l)"
(0.20) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_register 212: ca_bundle:
'NetSurf:Resources.ca-bundle'
(0.20) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_register 228: cURL linked
against openssl
(0.20) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 285: Initialise cURL
fetcher for http
(0.20) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 285: Initialise cURL
fetcher for https
(0.20) content/fetchers/data.c fetch_data_initialise 65:
fetch_data_initialise called for data
(0.21) content/llcache.c llcache_initialise 2199: llcache initialised
with a limit of 1651507 bytes
(0.23) utils/messages.c messages_load 124: Loading Messages from
'NetSurf:Resources.en.Messages'
(0.32) utils/messages.c messages_load 124: Loading Messages from
'NetSurf:Resources.LangNames'
(0.36) desktop/tree.c tree_set_icon_dir 179: Tree icon directory set to
NetSurf:Resources.Icons
(0.48) utils/filename.c filename_initialise 190: Temporary directory
location: /WWW/NetSurf/Cache
(0.64) content/urldb.c urldb_load 351: Loading URL file
(0.89) content/urldb.c urldb_load 503: Successfully loaded URL file
(4.71) riscos/font.c ro_gui_wimp_desktop_font 546: desktop font
"Homerton.Medium"
(4.71) riscos/font.c ro_gui_wimp_desktop_font 562: family "Homerton",
size 192, style 5
(4.97) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x4140619
(4.97) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x41403d9
(5.10) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x4144311
(5.11) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x41441f1
(5.11) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x4143f89
(5.11) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x4143bc1
(5.11) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x4143979
(5.11) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x4143731
(5.12) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x4143529
(5.12) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x4143409
(5.12) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x41432e9
(5.12) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x4144ad1
(5.12) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x414b731
(5.14) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x414b2b1
(5.16) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0xfffe
(5.16) riscos/gui.c ro_gui_check_resolvers 677: Inet$Resolvers
'192.168.0.1'
(5.18) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x414b191
(5.19) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x414b611
(5.53) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x414b071
(5.54) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x414b4f1
(6.06) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x414af51
(6.07) riscos/wimp_event.c ro_gui_wimp_event_get_window 1595: Creating
structure for window 0x414b3d1
(6.44) riscos/bitmap.c bit

Re: User feedback requested

2012-10-02 Thread Chris Newman
In article <20121002174956.gb11...@kyllikki.org>,
   Vincent Sanders  wrote:


> Although this message is a reply to Mr Wild *everyone* should read it
> and understand what I am saying. 

> I will endeavour to be as clear as I can be. If that comes across as
> overly abrupt I apologise but before any additional misunderstanding
> occurs I wish to make these points clear.

>  * The Continuous Integration (CI) builds are produced for the
>NetSurf Developers.



>  A report that the additional resources mentioned in the readme were
>  missing (which is now fixed BTW) would have been fine. The exact
>  version used and other information would have been nice to have. 

In the info window obtained from the iconbar icon, "Version" just gives 3.0
(development). Is there a way of checking which version/build you are using
except noting at the time of downloading?

Thanks for all your hard work.

Regards,

-- 
Chris



Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)

2012-10-02 Thread Chris Newman
In article <64f368d852.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
   Richard Porter  wrote:
> On 2 Oct 2012 Chris Newman  wrote:

> > In article <1a4c5dd852.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
> >Richard Porter  wrote:
> >> On 2 Oct 2012 Steve Joyce  wrote:

> >>> Tried just a few websites. Looks ok on Demon and Amazon. Amazon site
> >>> appears to work ok. However, streetmap.co.uk produced all the furniture
> >>> but no map. None of the controls appear to do anything. Accepts postcode
> >>> entry but does not produce map.

> >> I always use oldmap.srf

> > Is that part of a URL? Can you clarify please. I tried www.oldmap.srf & got 
> > a
> > "Could not resolve host" message.

> No, I'm talking about streetmap.co.uk. You can still use the old 
> format page layout. I have a form on my local home page like this 
> (I've taken out the formatting):

> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/oldsearch.srf?";

That link worked fine for me (RiscPC 700  Adjust 4.39 with Unipod).

I get to the old Streetmap.com page via...

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newdefaulte2.htm

Cheers,

-- 
Chris



Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)

2012-10-02 Thread Chris Newman
In article <1a4c5dd852.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
   Richard Porter  wrote:
> On 2 Oct 2012 Steve Joyce  wrote:

> > Tried just a few websites. Looks ok on Demon and Amazon. Amazon site
> > appears to work ok. However, streetmap.co.uk produced all the furniture
> > but no map. None of the controls appear to do anything. Accepts postcode
> > entry but does not produce map.

> I always use oldmap.srf 

Is that part of a URL? Can you clarify please. I tried www.oldmap.srf & got a
"Could not resolve host" message.

-- 
Chris



Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)

2012-10-02 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   DB  wrote:
> In message <52d84f6370st...@joyces.demon.co.uk>
>   Steve Joyce  wrote:

> > RISC OS 4.39
> > RPC Strongarm

> > Using Netsurf-2012-09-30_10-23-17/zip

> > Tried just a few websites. Looks ok on Demon and Amazon. Amazon site
> > appears to work ok. However, streetmap.co.uk produced all the furniture
> > but no map. None of the controls appear to do anything. Accepts postcode
> > entry but does not produce map.

> > No crash/lock-up so far.

> > Steve


> Streetmap displays OK here.

> Iyonix 5.19 (26 Sept)
> Netsurf 2012-10-02_09-33-37

And here. So does everything else I've tried so far.

RiscPC 700  Adjust 4.39 with Unipod

-- 
Chris



Re: Hotlist

2012-06-29 Thread Chris Newman
In article <52a78e014dd...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes 
wrote:
> In article <52a75401a9stuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>, lists
> wrote:
> > In article <52a7433e91d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes
> > wrote:
> > > > I use !Bookmaker, works fine.

> > > Thank you Stuart.

> > > She doesn't.

> > Sorry, should have been more clear. My suggestion is to use !BookMaker.

> > With !BookMaker running and boxes created, when I click "Add to hotlist",
> > I get a list of the boxes in !BookMaker I can choose to add to.

> We used to use Bookmaker a lot, but we stopped using Bookmaker because it
> didn't interface with NetSurf.

> I see it now can, but it doesn't appear to interface very well as when I
> Add to Hotlist I don't get a choice of what directory it goes in, it just
> puts it in the default place.

Here, it puts it at the bottom of the list of folders. I then open the
appropriate folder & drag the file up to it. Only takes a few seconds.

Cheers,

-- 
Chris



Re: Google Groups

2011-05-19 Thread Chris Newman
In article <7925d3d551.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk>,
   Harriet Bazley  wrote:
> Have they changed the Google Usenet archive interface so that it is no
> longer possible to post to Usenet groups without Javascript?

Something has changed. Using netsurf, I tried replying to a thread the other
day & got a message along the lines of... "Could not post your message. If
you think this is a fault contact Google Groups". I did & they have not
replied. Hey, ho.

-- 
Chris



Re: Speed

2011-04-28 Thread Chris Newman
r12243 does seem quite a bit faster here as well on my trusty Risc PC. Well
done the team.

-- 
Chris



Re: netsurf 2.7 and google-search

2011-04-18 Thread Chris Newman
In article <671ef3c551.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
   Tony Moore  wrote:
> First may I join in thanks to the Developers, for their continued work
> on this project. It is greatly appreciated here.

Ditto.

> NetSurf 2.7 seems to format incorrectly any Google-search results page
> (the left hand column is absent, etc). Does anyone else see this?

> The problem is not present in the latest development version, r12182.

Same results here.

-- 
Chris



Re: Interactive help

2011-03-03 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Steve Fryatt  wrote:
> On 2 Mar, Richard Porter wrote in message
> <5a1891ad51.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>:

> > On 1 Mar 2011 Chris Newman  wrote:
> > 
> > > In the Netsurf help documentation it says thus.
> > 
> > > To use interactive help, suitable software must be running. The program
> > > 'Help' is shipped with all RISC OS computers and it can be run from
> > > NetSurf's Help > Interactive helpmenu item."
> > 
> > !Help is run from the Apps window, not from NetSurf.

> >From looking at the code, I think that NetSurf will try and launch any 
> > known  Interactive Help client when that menu item is selected (assuming > 
> > > that one  it recognises isn't already running).

Yes. That happens here. It recognises !Bubble help by Miles Sabin
(distributed by David Pilling), !Float by someone called Steve Fryatt !!! as
well as the Acorn !Help.

However, I'm constantly getting the same effect on my RiscPC that Netsurf
won't recognise them from the iconbar. I can only use after accessing them
through the Netsurf menu. I tried removing everything I could from the icon
bar to see if anything was clashing but to no avail. Short of de-populating
my "Run" & "Boot" lists in Configuration ( a somewhat time consuming task), I
may never know the cause. I'll live with it.

I've discovered all the Help applications work as expected on my PC running
Virtual Acorn & that has many of the same apps loaded at startup.

I must be in a Bermuda Triangle or on a Ley Line or something.

Just have to leave it unexplained. Not a biggy. Thanks for your replies.

If anyone replicates the problem or finds the answer at some future point I'd
be interested to know. 

Regards to all a a big thanks to all the developers who are working so hard.

-- 
Chris



Re: Interactive help

2011-03-02 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Steve Fryatt  wrote:
> On 1 Mar, Chris Newman wrote in message
> <51ad607c3ecvj...@waitrose.com>:

> > To use interactive help, suitable software must be running. The program
> > 'Help' is shipped with all RISC OS computers and it can be run from
> > NetSurf's Help > Interactive helpmenu item."
> > 
> > However, I can't get it to work here.
> > Risc PC / Adjust 4.39/ test build r11881 (01 Mar 2011)

> So, what /does/ it do?  What exactly doesn't work?

Sorry. I must have been imprecise.
I loaded !Help from the Apps folder so that it is on the icon bar & working
correctly on my desktop. However, hovering over the Netsurf page produced no
helpful little bubbles.
Yet today, I tried loading !Help from the Netsurf page help menu instead & it
worked perfectly. I'm thinking it must be something blocking it on my
machine. I will investigate further & report back. 
Sorry to have taken your time, folks.

> > I don't usually need it but after the recent discussion about favicons I
> > thought I'd try & find them - whatever they are!

> They have been disabled in the core now, due to an unrelated issue, so
> there's not much to find.  See the "Favicons" thread.

Yep. Knew that. I'd been searching before that was posted.

-- 
Chris



Interactive help

2011-03-01 Thread Chris Newman
In the Netsurf help documentation it says thus.


"Instant on-line help is available throughout the software, in the form of
interactive help. This offers quick help information, in bullet point format,
about the item under the pointer.

To use interactive help, suitable software must be running. The program
'Help' is shipped with all RISC OS computers and it can be run from NetSurf's
Help > Interactive helpmenu item."

However, I can't get it to work here. 
Risc PC / Adjust 4.39/ test build r11881 (01 Mar 2011)

I don't usually need it but after the recent discussion about favicons I
thought I'd try & find them - whatever they are!

Regards,

-- 
Chris



Re: Shortcut to Save Location as ANT URL?

2010-08-06 Thread Chris Newman
In article <4b9fa74251...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>,
wrote:
> <5142a683f1rh.li...@phone.coop>
>   Russell Hafter - Lists  wrote:

> > In article ,
> > wrote:

> >>John Williams  wrote:

> >>> Why not just Shift-drag from the URL field? Or is that
> >>> also too mouse-based?

> >> It is a very useful facility - pity it only works on RISC
> >> OS 5.

> > What is the effect of ANT URL rather than URL?

> > Shift drag using r10638 under RO 4.02 gives me URL file
> > (b28), which, when double clicked, opens that URL again in
> > NetSurf.

> On Adjust 4.42 (A9) and Select 6.10 (Risc PC) I cannot drag the URL.
> What happens is that the URL is highlighted and there is no Save box.

Works here on Adjust 4.39. A little box bounded by tiny dashes appears & is
dragable to any destination.

-- 
Chris



Re: cut&paste oddity

2010-04-06 Thread Chris Newman
In article <8aafda0251.a...@ntlworld.com>,
   Dr Alan Leighton  wrote:


> >> I fear so for the time being. It is such a shame that we can no longer
> >> asses Google maps anymore. 8-(

> > The old StreetMap site works.


> > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newdefaulte2.htm


> Fantastic you have made my day,

You're welcome. Pleased to be of service. Glad I'm some use to somebody.

-- 
Chris



Re: cut&paste oddity

2010-04-04 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Dr Alan Leighton  wrote:
> In message <20100403231918.6a8d4...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>
>   Rob Kendrick  wrote:

> > On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 14:06:50 +0100
> > Richard Porter  wrote:

> >> I would suggest a feature request if there isn't one there already.
> >> Are we going to get a new version of Netsurf or is it stuck
> >> permanently at 09 Jan?

> > You know where the source is.

> I fear so for the time being. It is such a shame that we can no longer 
> asses Google maps anymore. 8-(

The old StreetMap site works.


http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newdefaulte2.htm



-- 
Chris



Re: Google's PDF-as-text

2009-11-14 Thread Chris Newman
In article <50ba30204ach...@chris-johnson.org.uk>,
   cj  wrote:
> In article <54392fba50.erv...@orpheusnet.co.uk>,
>Erving  wrote:
> > I'm puzzeled. whent I click on that link I don't get any 'piling' 
> > (Netsurf 2.1) and clicking the link at the top of the page 
> > (not SHIFT-click) downloads the PDF.
> > But I see with r9640 (26 Aug 2009 11:30) I do get the 'piling'
> > but still do not need to SHIFT-click to get the PDF.

> Ditto - it's obviously a problem with the recent development versions.

Also no problem with r8643 (21 Jul 2009) which was the last build before the
memory grabbing problems started.

-- 
Chris



Re: Running out of memory

2009-09-15 Thread Chris Newman
In article <509b3ea5bc...@timil.com>, Tim Hill  wrote:
> In article <6e37389b50.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter
>  wrote:
> > On 15 Sep 2009 Chris Newman wrote:

> > > I'd also like a copy as my backups don't go back that far. (A lesson
> > > learned there then). I'm sure you don't want to be pestered by oodles
> > > of us asking for a copy. Could anyone host that version for us all to
> > > have access to.

> > I've uploaded a copy to http://www.richardporter.me.uk/riscos/r8643.zip

> To further assist anyone, I have uploaded my most recent seven NetSurf
> downloads: r9554, r7730, r7518, r7188, r7024, r6662 and r6397. I have
> earlier versions too, if anyone is interested, but I'll not upload any of
> those until someone asks. They are in their original format (zip files
> called netsurf.zip) so please take care.

> My NetSurf downloads are here: www.timil.com/riscos/netsurf

Thank you. Most useful.

-- 
Chris



Re: Running out of memory

2009-09-15 Thread Chris Newman
In article <6e37389b50.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter
 wrote:
> On 15 Sep 2009 Chris Newman wrote:

> > I'd also like a copy as my backups don't go back that far. (A lesson
> > learned there then). I'm sure you don't want to be pestered by oodles of
> > us asking for a copy. Could anyone host that version for us all to have
> > access to.

> I've uploaded a copy to http://www.richardporter.me.uk/riscos/r8643.zip

You're a scholar & a gentleman, sir. Many thanks.

-- 
Chris



Re: Running out of memory

2009-09-15 Thread Chris Newman
In article , Richard Porter
 wrote:
> On 15 Sep 2009 Russell Hafter - Lists wrote:

> > In article <509ae27988sjcl...@ormail.co.uk>, Steve Clark
> >  wrote:

> >> Has anyone still got a copy of Netsurf dating to before the memory leak
> >> problem that they could send me (offlist)?

> > After finding that memory problems resulted in r9012 causing the machine
> > to run out of memory I reverted to r8240 (1 July 2009) as my working copy
> > of NetSurf.

> > I can have www.xe.com running on the desktop all day without it
> > swallowing all the RAM.

> The latest version I have without the memory problem is r8643 of 21st
> July. I've sent Steve a copy.

I'd also like a copy as my backups don't go back that far. (A lesson learned
there then). I'm sure you don't want to be pestered by oodles of us asking
for a copy. Could anyone host that version for us all to have access to.
Presumably those nice chaps at Netsurf have a copy. Would they be willing
etc..

Regards,

-- 
Chris



Re: Running out of memory

2009-08-27 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Richard Porter  wrote:
> On 27 Aug 2009 Dave Lawton wrote:

> > Please check bug #2845784 for details.

> > Anyone else reproduce this ?

> Yes, I've noticed that Netsurf is gobbling up memory again. Last time 
> I found it had three dynamic areas, and I had to quit it before 
> anything else woud run.

Same problem happening here.

-- 
Chris



Re: Lottery Web Site Problem

2009-08-07 Thread Chris Newman
In article <5086f539ddj.mccart...@blueyonder.co.uk>,
   John McCartney  wrote:
> In article <1249596971.14617.14.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark
> Bell  wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 23:05 +0100, John McCartney wrote:
> > > At some point since last Saturday, the UK National
> > > Lottery web site, http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/ ,
> > > seems to be unavailable to NetSurf. I can access it
> > > from Windows using Firefox. I'm using r9045.
> > > 
> > > Does anyone know what's happened?

> > Without more details, no.

> > What, exactly, happens when you try to visit that site?

> Sorry, I [wrongly] assumed you would have NetSurf running
> under RISC OS and could see from the link.

> NetSurf appears to load data from the site but the throbber
> just keeps going with nothing displayed in the window and
> the info bar at the bottom of the window says:

> OK (incrementing time display in seconds) Received 0.00 B

> Normally, the basic page loads almost instantly followed by
> a few seconds worth of image loading and a then a final
> update as the last image is downloaded. Now, after a minute
> or so, NetSurf is still displaying the message above and
> the window stays blank.

Confirmed that same thing happens here but:-

http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/drawHistory.do

does work. Therefore it seems it might be just the home page that gives the
problem.

-- 
Chris



Re: Re-direct problem?

2009-07-08 Thread Chris Newman
In article <5077caf1fcrh.li...@phone.coop>,
   Russell Hafter - Lists  wrote:
> In article <5077ca16fbcvj...@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
>  wrote:

> > The Museum of Bath at Work has a website, the URL of
> > which has changed over the years. The old URL still works
> > with Netsurf.

> > http://www.paulbg.com/bathatwork/


> > However, the following new one given in their literature
> > does not.

> > http://www.bath-at-work.org.uk

> > I get the error message "transfer closed with outstanding
> > read data remaining."

> > It seems to involve a re-direct to

> > http://www.bathatwork.co.uk/


> > Both these latter URLs work OK in Phoenix, Oregano2 &
> > Browse with WebServe on my RiscPC & Firefox on my PC so
> > it must be a glitch peculiar to Netsurf.

> > Can anyone replicate this behaviour?

> Yes, in that I get the same error message as you with
> NetSurf r8240 from <http://www.bathatwork.co.uk>, while it
> loads without any difficulty into Fresco.

> PC (which has Firefox, Safari, Opera and IE8) is not
> switched on at present...

Thanks Russell. I downloaded r8378 today & the problem is still there. Oh
dear! Am I going to have to go throught the rigmarole of submitting a bug
report?
Hey, ho

-- 
Chris



Re-direct problem?

2009-07-08 Thread Chris Newman
Hi folks,

The Museum of Bath at Work has a website, the URL of which has changed over
the years.
The old URL still works with Netsurf.

http://www.paulbg.com/bathatwork/


However, the following new one given in their literature does not.

http://www.bath-at-work.org.uk

I get the error message "transfer closed with outstanding read data
remaining."

It seems to involve a re-direct to

http://www.bathatwork.co.uk/


Both these latter URLs work OK in Phoenix, Oregano2 & Browse with WebServe on
my RiscPC & Firefox on my PC so it must be a glitch peculiar to Netsurf.

Can anyone replicate this behaviour?
Any ideas about what is going on?

Regards,

-- 
Chris Newman



Re: automating login details

2009-04-17 Thread Chris Newman
In article <3591db4c50@nails.ukonline.co.uk>, Jim Nagel
 wrote:
> is there any way of automatically providing my username and password when
> i go to a certain website i need to use frequently?

> i have got as far as saving a URL file so that at least i don't have to
> type that part every time.  perhaps there's a standard way (which i should
> know but don't) of including the username and password in the URL file?

I Use one of the many macro progs that are available for RiscOS. !Tags by
Thomas Baldwin is good. Can't find a current link for that but I can send you
a copy.It's freeware. !Makro - David Thomas & !TextAid - Alan Wrigley will do
the same. Again, if you can't find 'em, I have copies. You can keep one of
these apps on your desktop with the usernames & passwords. Then it's a quick
few clicks & a scroll to insert what you need. If security is a problem, keep
em in an encrypted file on the desktop then one password gets all. Stephen
Sloan's !Encrypt will do that & there are probably others. Hope this helps,

-- 
Chris



Re: website crashes netsurf

2009-02-26 Thread Chris Newman
In article <4866bc3350.old_coas...@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
   Tony Moore  wrote:

> NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (16 Feb 2009 20:30) r6542

> After double clicking on
> http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171203805
> NetSurf crashes, without opening its main window, and disappears from
> the iconbar.

> Can anyone else please confirm that this happens, before I file a bug
> report. Log file available.

> Tony

OK here using  r6613 24th Feb on a RiscPC running Adjust 4.39

-- 
Chris



Re: Newbie wants help - 2nd thoughts

2009-02-11 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Dr Peter Young  wrote:
> On 11 Feb 2009  Richard Porter  wrote:

> > On 11 Feb 2009 Michael Bell wrote:

> >> Maybe I should mention that I renamed my old !NetSurf to !NetSurfOld
> >> to get it out of the way, as I think I ought to. I don't know if
> >> that's relevant.

> > That's what I do, or more accurately I rename it to !NetSurfmmdd where
> > mmdd is the release month and date. I keep the last three releases
> > that I download unless two are on the same day. That only happens if
> > there's a new bug that needs to be fixed urgently.

> There are also various scripts knocking around that automatically 
> rename backup copies of NetSurf and then download the new version 
> using wget. Saves a lot of work, if you're idle like me!

Sounds useful. Any links to these scripts would be appreciated.

Regards,

-- 
Chris



Re: Repeatable abort

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Newman
In article <5720842b50.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>,
   Richard Porter  wrote:
> I am getting a repeatable abort with r6397 on a RiscPC running 6.10.
> I first went to URL
> http://www.minimarcos.org.uk/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?b=,v=search,p=topten
> and then clicked on the link to
> http://www.supercarforums.co.uk/chatforum/viewtopic.php?t=30
> at which point NetSurf aborted with two "Serious error" messages. I 
> have added the logs to my master bug. If somebody else could check 
> these links it might indicate a identifiable bug rather than a general 
> tendency for NetSurf to crash randomly on my machine.

Same here with r6371. Then I updated Netsurf to r6398 (08 Feb) & couldn't
even get the mini marcos site at first (Netsurf was unable to display this
page) then after a couple more tries it displayed it. Still got "Serious
error" report on the viewtopic link.
Hope this helps.

-- 
Chris



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