Bank of Scotland / Halifax
Hello Tried to log on today but noticed on the second log in page after the drop down menus the continue button has gone! It's a shame as recently it was the first time the whole site has been accessible via Netsurf. Prior had to use Firebox, or via a PC. Regards Brian Sent from my HTC Desire HD - Reply message - From: netsurf-users-requ...@netsurf-browser.org To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org Subject: netsurf-users Digest, Vol 54, Issue 6 Date: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:00 Send netsurf-users mailing list submissions to netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://vlists.pepperfish.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/netsurf-users-netsurf-browser.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to netsurf-users-requ...@netsurf-browser.org You can reach the person managing the list at netsurf-users-ow...@netsurf-browser.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of netsurf-users digest... Today's Topics: 1. Loading local copy of Builds page (John Williams) 2. Re: NetSurf and LTSB (Geoffrey Baxendale) 3. Re: NetSurf and LTSB (Dave Symes) 4. Re: NetSurf and LTSB (Dave Higton) 5. Re: Loading local copy of Builds page (John Williams) 6. Possible bug? (Richard Torrens (lists)) 7. Re: Loading local copy of Builds page (Dr Peter Young) 8. Re: Loading local copy of Builds page (John Williams) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 14:00:47 +0200 From: John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net Subject: Loading local copy of Builds page To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org Message-ID: 521ce149bcjoh...@ukgateway.net Content-Type: text/plain r12925 loads and displays a local copy of the NetSurf builds page which I download for parsing for the latest version number for use in a scripted download process. Versions certainly from r12938 (possibly earlier) give a fatal error for the same file. Logfile sent to J-MB John -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 19:59:04 +0100 From: Geoffrey Baxendale thebe...@sarno.freeserve.co.uk Subject: Re: NetSurf and LTSB To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org Message-ID: 1195071d52.thebe...@sarno.freeserve.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message 521c3df1e2d...@triffid.co.uk Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: On 02 Oct, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: Anyone else here using NS to work their LTSB online banking? Using a slighty older version and now, r12913 29th Sept, LTSB online banking is now unusable here. Login and Memorable info can still be done, but thereafter only a small section of the stuff is available. Account Overview, very strangely displayed and Mini statements, again very strangely displayed, but nothing else is visible. Anyone else finding this the case? Dave FWIW. Works perfectly okay on PC Firefox. JavaScript again I guess... I guess no one else uses NS with LTSB, as this AM (Monday) still unusable. Dave Hi Dave, Is it giving you the mobile site? I have just used it and that is what it did. Previously my saved login page was for the mobile site but after entering the password the rest was as normal. I have been away so my version of NS is r12793. Haven't tried the latest release. (To get to the desktop site click that link.) TTFN -- Geoff. Baxendale, Darwen, Lancashire. Using Acorn StrongARM Kinetic RiscPC. Oxymoron of the day: Tight Slacks -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:37:32 +0100 From: Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk Subject: Re: NetSurf and LTSB To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org Message-ID: 521d1098d6d...@triffid.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain In article 1195071d52.thebe...@sarno.freeserve.co.uk, Geoffrey Baxendale thebe...@sarno.freeserve.co.uk wrote: [Snip] Hi Dave, Is it giving you the mobile site? I have just used it and that is what it did. Previously my saved login page was for the mobile site but after entering the password the rest was as normal. I have been away so my version of NS is r12793. Haven't tried the latest release. (To get to the desktop site click that link.) Thanks Geoff, that did the trick. I've just been clickin the same button I've been using on the first login page for years, now suddenly the (Illegitimates) change it for mobiles. Anyway, sorted now. Dave I really can't see why any sane person would want to use a mobile phone to do anything network related. I have a Smartphone that's got more whistles and bells than the command deck of the USS Enterprise, but after trying out all this wb stuff when I first got it, I've given up, the tedium of waiting for web pages to display on a mobile phone is worse than waiting for paint to dry. Now I just use it for (Shock horror) phoning, texts and MMS, the rest is just a waste of my life. Ooer!
Re: netsurf-users Digest, Vol 54, Issue 7 Bank of Scotland/Halifax
Hi The ' continue button ' has now returned after the second log in page. Am not going mad as I log in each dayat least the once and it wasn't there this morning or later in the afternoon. Regards. Brian -- Check out Brian's pics at: www.flickr.com/photos/httpflickrcomphotosbrian
Re: Bank of Scotland/Halifax
On 18 Sep 2011 Dave Higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: In message 13163753777908975@ukmrpl003 Brian brfer...@orpheusmail.co.uk wrote: Hi Dave No idea why? It all works fine now, but these things always change. I used to bank with Lloyds and it was fine with NS. Then had to change banks then found bos abit limited with our browsers. But it's the same situation with most banks and our browsers without JS. Barclays works fine with NetSurf. I always use a very recent version, and I do all my on line banking with NS. Is this with the little keypad thingy that Barclays sent to the late S(WMBO)+(WILAC), and which we never used? HSBC have just started using these, and even before then their on-line banking stopped working with RISC OS NetSurf; I haven't yet tried it with the keypad. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Bank of Scotland/Halifax
In article a3cf1d1552.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: Is this with the little keypad thingy that Barclays sent to the late S(WMBO)+(WILAC), and which we never used? HSBC have just started using these, and even before then their on-line banking stopped working with RISC OS NetSurf; I haven't yet tried it with the keypad. An interesting fact is that these 'little keypad thingies' are all the same, just badged differently. So if you need to, you can use someone else's - away from home, for example. Anyone wishing to discuss this, take it elsewhere, as it's off-topic here. John
Re: Bank of Scotland/Halifax
On 19/09/2011 11:53, John Williams wrote: In articlea3cf1d1552.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Youngpnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: An interesting fact is that these 'little keypad thingies' are all the same, just badged differently. So if you need to, you can use someone else's - away from home, for example. Anyone wishing to discuss this, take it elsewhere, as it's off-topic here. Not wishing to discuss it, only to correct inaccurate information:- You can't use someone else's, as each has a serial number which needs to be registered in order that the remote end is using the same seed for the random number generation. DO NOT allow anyone else to see your serial number, as following the RSA breach, the system is compromised. Cheers -- David J. Ruck email: dr...@druck.org.uk phone: +44(0)7974 108301
Re: Bank of Scotland/Halifax
In message a3cf1d1552.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: On 18 Sep 2011 Dave Higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: In message 13163753777908975@ukmrpl003 Brian brfer...@orpheusmail.co.uk wrote: Hi Dave No idea why? It all works fine now, but these things always change. I used to bank with Lloyds and it was fine with NS. Then had to change banks then found bos abit limited with our browsers. But it's the same situation with most banks and our browsers without JS. Barclays works fine with NetSurf. I always use a very recent version, and I do all my on line banking with NS. Is this with the little keypad thingy that Barclays sent to the late S(WMBO)+(WILAC), and which we never used? HSBC have just started using these, and even before then their on-line banking stopped working with RISC OS NetSurf; I haven't yet tried it with the keypad. Yes. All the keypad does is generate numbers, which appear on its display. All you do is copy the numbers from the display to NetSurf's writable icons. Works a treat. There is no electrical interface between the PINsentry and the computer. PINsentry has a keyboard (through which all its input goes) and a display (from which the user copies all PINsentry's output). Dave
Re: Bank of Scotland/Halifax
On 19 Sep 2011 Dave Higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: In message a3cf1d1552.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: On 18 Sep 2011 Dave Higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: In message 13163753777908975@ukmrpl003 Brian brfer...@orpheusmail.co.uk wrote: Hi Dave No idea why? It all works fine now, but these things always change. I used to bank with Lloyds and it was fine with NS. Then had to change banks then found bos abit limited with our browsers. But it's the same situation with most banks and our browsers without JS. Barclays works fine with NetSurf. I always use a very recent version, and I do all my on line banking with NS. Is this with the little keypad thingy that Barclays sent to the late S(WMBO)+(WILAC), and which we never used? HSBC have just started using these, and even before then their on-line banking stopped working with RISC OS NetSurf; I haven't yet tried it with the keypad. Yes. All the keypad does is generate numbers, which appear on its display. All you do is copy the numbers from the display to NetSurf's writable icons. Works a treat. There is no electrical interface between the PINsentry and the computer. PINsentry has a keyboard (through which all its input goes) and a display (from which the user copies all PINsentry's output). Thanks for the technical info. (Getting back on topic) Does this mean, then, that the HSBC site is working again with NetSurf? If so, I'll be glad to have one less use for Windows. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Bank of Scotland/Halifax
In message 4e77254c.6070...@druck.org.uk David J. Ruck dr...@druck.org.uk wrote: On 19/09/2011 11:53, John Williams wrote: In articlea3cf1d1552.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Youngpnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: An interesting fact is that these 'little keypad thingies' are all the same, just badged differently. So if you need to, you can use someone else's - away from home, for example. Anyone wishing to discuss this, take it elsewhere, as it's off-topic here. Not wishing to discuss it, only to correct inaccurate information:- You can't use someone else's, as each has a serial number which needs to be registered in order that the remote end is using the same seed for the random number generation. DO NOT allow anyone else to see your serial number, as following the RSA breach, the system is compromised. My wife and I were each sent a PINsentry. We have different accounts. We use the PINsentries interchangeably; I deliberately put the one I used last underneath the other so as to spread the use between them evenly. If they were individual, they would have to be individually identifiable, and of course they aren't. Dave
Re: Bank of Scotland/Halifax
In article 2a402f1552.davehig...@dsl.pipex.com, Dave Higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: My wife and I were each sent a PINsentry. We have different accounts. Same here. I think one is still in its original packing. -- Stuart Winsor
Re: Bank of Scotland/Halifax
Hi Dave No idea why? It all works fine now, but these things always change. I used to bank with Lloyds and it was fine with NS. Then had to change banks then found bos abit limited with our browsers. But it's the same situation with most banks and our browsers without JS. Still at least it's a big step in the right direction.. Regards Brian Sent from my HTC Desire HD - Reply message - From: Dave Lawton li...@etcsystems.co.uk To: Brian brfer...@orpheusmail.co.uk Subject: Bank of Scotland/Halifax Date: Sun, Sep 18, 2011 19:14 On Sun, 18 September, 2011 5:41 pm, Brian wrote: Having been able to do 50% of my online banking with Netsurf on the Bank of Scotland/Halifax site, then when they *revamped* recently, I couldn't even view my statement and account fully, let alone pay bills etc and had to use Firefox. However, today the site is now fully accessible with Netsurf,even paying bills,cancel DD's and all sorts. Just thought I would pass this on. Regards. Brian Hi Brian, Thanks for that very useful piece of info. Do you happen to know why, after years of being told that their web banking interface was crap, and didn't need Javascript, and them doing nowt about it, they finally fixed it ? -- Regards from Dave Lawton HTML emails are just a security risk, and nobody needs that. 01302 337559 Fax 01302 337564
Re: Bank of Scotland/Halifax
In message 13163753777908975@ukmrpl003 Brian brfer...@orpheusmail.co.uk wrote: Hi Dave No idea why? It all works fine now, but these things always change. I used to bank with Lloyds and it was fine with NS. Then had to change banks then found bos abit limited with our browsers. But it's the same situation with most banks and our browsers without JS. Barclays works fine with NetSurf. I always use a very recent version, and I do all my on line banking with NS. Dave
