Re: NetSurf printing
On 27 Feb 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: Brilliant it now works - well, on some sites anyway. Is this the ink jet driver, or postscript? I presume PostScript is still broken, as I can't seem to get it to work here. Nor here with PostScript. Is there any prospect of this PostScript problem being sorted out? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetSurf printing
On 28 Feb 2008 John-Mark Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:57:32 GMT, Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Feb 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: Brilliant it now works - well, on some sites anyway. Is this the ink jet driver, or postscript? I presume PostScript is still broken, as I can't seem to get it to work here. Nor here with PostScript. Of course not; noone's made any claims that PDriverPS has been fixed. I'm somewhat confused, therefore, as to the state of bafflement that exists here. Is there any prospect of this PostScript problem being sorted out? Not be me at least -- it was bad enough fixing PDriverDP without direct access to either a printer or, perhaps more usefully, a RISC OS machine. I don't have time to wade through the thousands of pages of PostScript language specification to work out what's required. This effort would be most certainly wasted, anyway, as people who are already experts in dealing with PostScript are working on improving PostScript printing. Many thanks for this clarification, and I'll wait patiently for the results of the other experts. You are one yourself, of course, and your efforts are greatly appreciated by us trogs. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetSurf printing
On 28 Feb, Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the ink jet driver, or postscript? I presume PostScript is still broken, as I can't seem to get it to work here. Nor here with PostScript. Is there any prospect of this PostScript problem being sorted out? Just for info : since writing that my setup now seems to print OK to my Kyocera using PostScript Level 1 and HP2550 using PostScript Level 2 . . . . both now come up with the same old error Undefined font... Well, I did say Perhaps it will fall on its face next time I try. and it did :( My question is: why? Having printed faultlessly immediately after installing !Printers 1.73 and having made no changes to anything on the basis of 'if it ain't broke..' it proved that the setup can work, but now inexplicably refuses to do so. Still prints from NetSurf to the Kyocera using the PCL driver though :o) John -- /____ /Mail from[EMAIL PROTECTED] . . . using RISC OS 5.13 on an XScale powered Iyonix computer.
Re: NetSurf printing
On 28 Feb 2008, at 15:51, John-Mark Bell wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:57:32 GMT, Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any prospect of this PostScript problem being sorted out? Not be me at least -- it was bad enough fixing PDriverDP without direct access to either a printer or, perhaps more usefully, a RISC OS machine. I don't have time to wade through the thousands of pages of PostScript language specification to work out what's required. This effort would be most certainly wasted, anyway, as people who are already experts in dealing with PostScript are working on improving PostScript printing. There might be something you can do in NetSurf to get PostScript printing working - Kevin Bracey had a couple of suggestions when I was adding Unicode support to ZapRedraw: Yes, it's mapping the stuff to PostScript fonts that's the problem. Lots of work from a PostScript guru needed there. It might require PostScript 3 to make it work. snip I think we're talking at cross-purposes here. You said UCS support in VDU mode, so I assumed you meant using the system font, which can be achieved using the Service_International call to redefine character n as UCS character u. Browse could do this - it sort of used characters 80-FF of the system font as a cache of recently needed characters, which it fetched on demand using Service_International during its redraw loop. It then restored them to their original definition at the end of the redraw. This worked rather well with PostScript printing - the PostScript printer driver does a very intelligent job of handling system font and its redefinition. It doesn't yet support UTF8. Still. Makes an amusing technical challenge, I reckon, so ZapRedraw does the same thing when plotting in the system font. I think Browse would reprogram the system font size too (using VDU 23,17,7 or whatever). Good stuff. -- Christian Ludlam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetSurf printing
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: Has there been a new 1.73, perhaps? Or am I missing some necessary modules? If so, what should I have, and where do I get them? I've got all the latest versions installed here and I still can't get printing to postscript printers from NetSurf. I can't even print to a bog-standard inkjet printer let alone a Postscript printer. Despite using the latest versions of NetSurf/Printers/Gutenprint I am unable to print a web page without the error Illegal control character in font string. Using: NetSurf.. Dev (27 Feb 2008) r3872. Printers.. 1.73 GutenPrint.. 2.20 Can anyone help with this?? Regards Richard
Re: NetSurf printing
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:51:55 +0100, Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't even print to a bog-standard inkjet printer let alone a Postscript printer. Despite using the latest versions of NetSurf/Printers/Gutenprint I am unable to print a web page without the error Illegal control character in font string. Using: NetSurf.. Dev (27 Feb 2008) r3872. Printers.. 1.73 GutenPrint.. 2.20 Can anyone help with this? The important bit is PDriverDP. What does *Help PDriverDP say? John.
Re: NetSurf printing
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], John-Mark Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:51:55 +0100, Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't even print to a bog-standard inkjet printer let alone a Postscript printer. Despite using the latest versions of NetSurf/Printers/Gutenprint I am unable to print a web page without the error Illegal control character in font string. Using: NetSurf.. Dev (27 Feb 2008) r3872. Printers.. 1.73 GutenPrint.. 2.20 Can anyone help with this? The important bit is PDriverDP. What does *Help PDriverDP say? Module: Printer driver 4.51 (11 Jul 2003) for bit image printers. Regards Richard
Re: NetSurf printing
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:05:29 +0100, Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], John-Mark Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The important bit is PDriverDP. What does *Help PDriverDP say? Module: Printer driver 4.51 (11 Jul 2003) for bit image printers. Well; there's your problem, then. You need at least 4.54. This can be found in all-bin-2007-11-15.zip from http://riscosopen.co.uk/content/downloads/risc-os-tarballs Note that the !Printers in that zip file is not complete -- you'll need to merge it with an existing !Printers 1.73. John.
Re: NetSurf printing
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brilliant it now works - well, on some sites anyway. What sites doesn't it work on? -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: NetSurf printing
In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: Brilliant it now works - well, on some sites anyway. Is this the ink jet driver, or postscript? I presume PostScript is still broken, as I can't seem to get it to work here.
NetSurf printing
On 25 Feb, Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a word, no, not here anyway. As I understand it, PostScript drivers with Printers 1.73, at least till now, can't cope with Unicode fonts, and PostScript drivers are all I have here. However, if someone can tell me differently ... So why is it all working here? Seems very strangebut welcome. Perhaps it will fall on its face next time I try. John -- /____ /Mail from[EMAIL PROTECTED] . . . using RISC OS 5.13 on an XScale powered Iyonix computer.
Re: NetSurf printing
On 25 Feb 2008 John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Feb, Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a word, no, not here anyway. As I understand it, PostScript drivers with Printers 1.73, at least till now, can't cope with Unicode fonts, and PostScript drivers are all I have here. However, if someone can tell me differently ... So why is it all working here? Seems very strangebut welcome. Has there been a new 1.73, perhaps? Or am I missing some necessary modules? If so, what should I have, and where do I get them? Perhaps it will fall on its face next time I try. I doubt it! TIA, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetSurf printing
On 25 Feb 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: Has there been a new 1.73, perhaps? Or am I missing some necessary modules? If so, what should I have, and where do I get them? I've got all the latest versions installed here and I still can't get printing to postscript printers from NetSurf. That makes me feel better! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Er \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetSurf printing
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: [Snippety snip] There is a Boot file but am reluctant to run this as I unaware of its effect on my system - nice and reliable at the moment. None of this is meaningful. How do I preceed from here please You need to download the previous copy of the binaries, which included a copy of !Printers. The most recent binary only contains update files and not the full application. Having said that, I've encountered weird redraw problems with !Printers 1.73 so I've gone back to the previous version to avoid crashing the machine. :-( OK I have got hold of Printers 1.73 but whichever version I use I get an error Illegal control in font string - where do I go from here? Regards Richard
Re: NetSurf printing
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK I have got hold of Printers 1.73 but whichever version I use I get an error Illegal control in font string - where do I go from here? Have you tried restarting since installing the new printer drivers? Yes - no difference. I should have pointed out this is with NetSurf. Dev 22 Jan 2008 r3761 version. Earlier versions give same error. Regards Richard
Re: NetSurf printing
In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: [Snippety snip] There is a Boot file but am reluctant to run this as I unaware of its effect on my system - nice and reliable at the moment. None of this is meaningful. How do I preceed from here please You need to download the previous copy of the binaries, which included a copy of !Printers. The most recent binary only contains update files and not the full application. Having said that, I've encountered weird redraw problems with !Printers 1.73 so I've gone back to the previous version to avoid crashing the machine. :-(
Re: NetSurf printing
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], John-Mark Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:09:52 +0100, Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has any progress be made with NetSurf's printing on RISC OS 5? AFAIAA, it works (except to PostScript printers). The current release has the same help instructions as previous issues about lack of Font Manager and printer drivers support - there is a comment about a patch for non-Postscript printers that has been submitted to RISC OS Open Ltd. See revisions 4.11 and 4.12, here: [snip long web addresses] Thanks for that information - will investigate supplied web pages and report back. Regards Richard
Re: NetSurf printing
On 25 Jan 2008 Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has any progress be made with NetSurf's printing on RISC OS 5? The current release has the same help instructions as previous issues about lack of Font Manager and printer drivers support - there is a comment about a patch for non-Postscript printers that has been submitted to RISC OS Open Ltd. Some people have reported success in printing to a non-PostScript printer using the latest release of !Printers; I don't have one of these, so I still can't :-( With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Er \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NetSurf printing
Has any progress be made with NetSurf's printing on RISC OS 5? The current release has the same help instructions as previous issues about lack of Font Manager and printer drivers support - there is a comment about a patch for non-Postscript printers that has been submitted to RISC OS Open Ltd.
Re: NetSurf printing
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: [Snippety snip] There is a Boot file but am reluctant to run this as I unaware of its effect on my system - nice and reliable at the moment. None of this is meaningful. How do I preceed from here please You need to download the previous copy of the binaries, which included a copy of !Printers. The most recent binary only contains update files and not the full application. Having said that, I've encountered weird redraw problems with !Printers 1.73 so I've gone back to the previous version to avoid crashing the machine. :-( Thanks for that important information - I will have a look. Re-draw problems - this doesn't sound good :-(( I need to speak to you about getting FileCrypt to work. I'll contact you separately on this one. Regards Richard
