Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Wine

2002-08-08 Thread Ronald J. Hall

On Thursday 08 August 2002 02:54 pm, you wrote:
 Greetings Ronald,

 You are right, Winex is better than Wine.
 But Wine is Free.

 Best Regards.

 Lúcio Costa.

Yes, but you can get the cvs version of WineX, which is free. Also, I think 
D.Olsen posted a link to his website which has an article on how to get the 
cvs version working.

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Re: [newbie] Ok I installed 9.0beta2, now what? :-)

2002-08-08 Thread Alastair Scott

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On Thursday 08 Aug 2002 7:45 pm, Charlie M. wrote:

 I finally got around to burning those disks and installing the beta last
 night/early this morning. So far I'm liking what I see except for the fact
 that:
 1) the machine wouldn't boot from hda5 (error something like VFS unable to
 load root at 03:05 or some such) after the install so I had to boot from
 the floppy I made;

Write it up and post it to the [cooker] mailing list!

 2) is there a way to update this thing? I went looking for mirrors to
 download the latest version of urpmi and rpmdrake and none seem to have
 anything except the ISOs. I'm trying to do it manually 'cause Mandrake
 Update doesn't seem to exist and the software manager won't add a source
 either from GUI or using urpmi.addmedia and so on.

Updating is not obvious and, as you'll see later, is problematic because of 
the nature of the beta process.

The first thing to do is to type from a root prompt:

edit-urpm-sources.pl

This puts you into a GUI so you don't have to remember the urpmi syntax. I 
then press Add (source) and put into the boxes (after selecting 'FTP 
server'):

Name:
cooker
URL: 
ftp://newton.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMSwton.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
Relative path to synthesis/hdlist:
../base/hdlist.cz

Unfortunately there are two big problems every time you do a urpmi 
- --auto-select:

i. hdlist.cz is 14MB+ and probably has to be downloaded every time;

ii. because cooker is constantly changing, with RPMs added every day, you're 
in for huge downloads; first time I was asked to download 917MB of files!

I fled after ii and am going to keep testing with respect to the baseline; I 
strongly suspect that the only people who're keeping fully up to date with 
cooker have company or university connections with massive bandwidth.

Alastair
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Re: [newbie] FTP Server

2002-08-08 Thread LtCdData

On Thursday 08 August 2002 18:52, Miark wrote:
 Jord,

 I run one using ProFTP. I started using it because it was more
 secure than the WU server and because it is easier to configure.
 I've never looked back.

 Miark

 Jordan Elver [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith:
  Hi,
  Just wondered what FTP Server you guys would recommend?
  I've heard of wu-ftpd which a lot of people seem to use. But ProFTP looks
  pretty good especially since it has Apahe like configuation.
 
  Anyone run an FTP server? :-)

get  gproftpd  it makes proftp very easy to use

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Re: [newbie] LM 9.0 Beta 2?

2002-08-08 Thread Dennis Myers

On Thursday 08 August 2002 02:03 pm, Terry Sheltra wrote:
 Anyone out there been playing with this for a while?  Does it work better
 than Beta 1 (specifically the Mandrake Control Center)?  Would love to hear
 back from you people about this.  I really want to update, but I can wait
 if Beta 2 isn't really much better than Beta 1.

 Thanks!
I think that you will find it is better.  You still have to make an icon on 
the desk top for Mandrake Control Center if you want it there, but it does 
work now, or as much so as I have had time to test it. Most everything else 
is functioning and the whole system seems to run faster even in KDE. Give it 
a go. HTH
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[newbie] FYI - MS Passport FTC Settlement

2002-08-08 Thread Sevatio

I know this isn't Linux related... However, most of us have a friend or 
family member that insists on trusting Microsoft.  They should be aware 
of this.


Technology News
Thursday, Aug. 8, 2002
U.S., Microsoft Settle Privacy Charges


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. (MSFT.O) agreed on Thursday to 
submit to 20 years of U.S. government oversight of its online identity 
service in order to settle charges that it misled consumers about 
security and privacy standards.

Microsoft's Passport service, which aims to make online shopping easier 
by storing passwords and credit-card numbers, came under scrutiny by the 
U.S. Federal Trade Commission last year after privacy groups said it 
would give the software giant unprecedented control over users' personal 
information.

FTC officials said they found that Microsoft did not adequately protect 
users' personal information, and that the service tracked users' 
Web-browsing habits without their knowledge.

The company also falsely claimed that it would enhance the security of 
Internet transactions, the FTC said.

They were saying that they had reasonable and appropriate security 
procedures. We thought those promises were deceptive, FTC Chairman 
Timothy Muris told reporters, adding that he was unaware of any breaches 
to the system.

Microsoft agreed to stop making false claims about Passport's 
data-collection practices and security protections, and agreed to set up 
an enhanced computer-security system that must pass independent review 
every two years, for a period of 20 years.

Microsoft paid no fines, but would face fines of $11,000 per count if it 
does not maintain the security program, an amount that could add up 
quickly given the service's 200-plus million users.

MICROSOFT SAYS IT'S OLDER AND WISER

A Microsoft official said there were lessons that can be learned from 
the FTC action and that the company would improve its description and 
disclosure of Passport's features.

We've learned from the dialogue with the FTC and we will work to meet 
the high bar they are setting, said Microsoft General Counsel Brad Smith.

Tracking information collected by Passport would only be used for 
customer service needs and would be purged after 10 days in most cases, 
he said.

Activists who asked the FTC last summer to examine Passport said the 
settlement was the most significant victory for online privacy to date.

Frankly, we're pleased, said Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the 
Electronic Privacy Information Center, which led the consumer coalition. 
In some areas the FTC went further than we anticipated.

Jason Catlett, president of privacy consulting firm Junkbusters Corp., 
said the most significant aspect was that the FTC decided to investigate 
in the first place.

Finding that Microsoft has bad security is like shooting at a sitting 
duck, Catlett said. What is significant is not that they hit the duck, 
but that they took the shot.

Microsoft, hit by break-ins to its network and criticism over its 
security, made trustworthy computing its top priority earlier this 
year after chairman Bill Gates called for more emphasis on security.

Smith said the company built Passport on what it thought was the most 
secure technology available at the time.

The Association for Competitive Technology, a technology group that has 
supported Microsoft in the past, said the agreement seemed excessive but 
would set new standards for the entire industry.

Passport faces pressure on other fronts. European Union authorities have 
taken at a hard look at the service, concerned that it does not comply 
with privacy laws and tell users how their personal information is used.

A group of high-tech firms calling itself the Liberty Alliance, led by 
Sun Microsystems Inc (SUNW.O) is planning a similar identity service.

Most Passport users signed up involuntarily when they set up a free 
Hotmail account, or bought the new Windows XP operating system, and few 
are active users, said Gartner analyst Avivah Litan. The settlement 
could help Microsoft by building trust in the system, she said.

Consumers use Passport right now because they have to, Litan said.

One FTC source said Microsoft was eager to settle the case because it 
did not want further problems with Passport, which is at the core of the 
company's .NET initiate to move to Internet-based services.

They caved, the source said.




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Re: [newbie] Ok I installed 9.0beta2, now what? :-)

2002-08-08 Thread Charlie M.

On Thursday 08 August 2002 02:44 pm, Alastair Scott wrote:
random (yeah right!) snips  
 Write it up and post it to the [cooker] mailing list!

I think I figured it out after a long afternoon of reading and re-installing. 
I was using XFS for all the partitions except /boot and 9.0beta2 doesn't seem 
to like;
a.) a separate boot partition, and;
b.) XFS for /root. 
During the re-install I merged /boot and /root, used ext3 and no more kernel 
panic VFS: unable to mount root at 03:05! and no more stuck boots are 
happening.

I've restarted this damned thing more times in the past 48 hours than I have 
in the past 4 to 5 months. :-(

 Updating is not obvious and, as you'll see later, is problematic because of
 the nature of the beta process.

 The first thing to do is to type from a root prompt:

 edit-urpm-sources.pl

Has anyone told you lately that you're a gentleman and a scholar? Allow me to 
say so! Thanks, but I just tried it and it isn't working. This is what I got:
added medium cooker
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.disc 1 MandrakeLinux 
9.0 beta2 (x86) (cdrom1).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.disc 2 Mandrake 
Linux 9.0 beta 2 (x86) (cdrom2).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.disc 3 Mandrake 
Linux 9.0 beta 2 (x86) (cdrom3).cz]
retrieving description file of cooker...
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of cooker...
ftp://ftp://newton.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMSwton.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz:
 
Bad port number.
...retrieving failed:
retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
no hdlist file found for medium cooker
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.cooker.cz]
problem reading synthesis file of medium cooker
write config file [/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cf
and just trying to get to the site (browser, ftp program etc.) gets me an 
error message:
The file or directory(the url) does not exist.

 This puts you into a GUI so you don't have to remember the urpmi syntax. I
 then press Add (source) and put into the boxes (after selecting 'FTP
 server'):

 Name:
 cooker
 URL:
 ftp://newton.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mand
rake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMSwton.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/p
ub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS Relative
 path to synthesis/hdlist:
 ../base/hdlist.cz

 Unfortunately there are two big problems every time you do a urpmi
 - --auto-select:

 i. hdlist.cz is 14MB+ and probably has to be downloaded every time;

 ii. because cooker is constantly changing, with RPMs added every day,
 you're in for huge downloads; first time I was asked to download 917MB of
 files!

Not a problem here; ceiling is 10 GB/month download and 3 GB/month upload on 
this cable connection.

 I fled after ii and am going to keep testing with respect to the baseline;
 I strongly suspect that the only people who're keeping fully up to date
 with cooker have company or university connections with massive bandwidth.

Like myself you mean? :-)

I'll find a way to update the sucker. I like it so far.

 Alastair
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Sorry for the long message, I didn't cc: the list 'cause I didn't figure you 
needed it twice.

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Re: [newbie] FYI - MS Passport FTC Settlement

2002-08-08 Thread Bill Davidson

How about just a url next time?

Bill



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Re: [newbie] Printing and fax in OO

2002-08-08 Thread Brendan


Meanwhile, I uninstalled and re-installed, but I'm confiused now.  I used
File Manager Super User to install from the 3rd disk.  I thought that I had
understood that this would install the root part of the program, but that it
was then necessary to run the workstation installation - which would be
required at the first use.

I feel like such a schmuck when  I read descriptions like this. I really 
have almost no clue how to use the GUI tools. I am almost completely a CLI 
tool guy. How backwards is that?

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Re: [newbie] FYI - MS Passport FTC Settlement

2002-08-08 Thread Sevatio

Bill Davidson wrote:
 How about just a url next time?
 
 Bill
 
 
 
 
 
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Sorry, it was an article that was viewable through one of my 
personalised  newssites; only accessable by me.  And I didn't have time 
to find a public accessable version of the article.

It appears to be making mainstream news.  I'm sure you'll find it somewhere.




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Re: [newbie] Printing and fax in OO

2002-08-08 Thread Richard Holt

On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 20:56:18 -0400, Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Meanwhile, I uninstalled and re-installed, but I'm confiused now.  I
 used File Manager Super User to install from the 3rd disk.  I thought
 that I had understood that this would install the root part of the
 program, but that it was then necessary to run the workstation
 installation - which would be required at the first use.
 
 I feel like such a schmuck when  I read descriptions like this. I
 really have almost no clue how to use the GUI tools. I am almost
 completely a CLI tool guy. How backwards is that?

I've never tried to install from Mandrakes rpms, I've always installed 
from a download from www.openoffice.org, currently version 1.0.1
I'm running it on Mandrake 8.1. Works fine. 

Try this then, from a console:
  From the directory where you decompressed the install file:
 (make sure you have 250 MB free on hard disk)
  as  root,  # ./setup -net   (put in  /opt/OOo101)   (run to
completion)
  (if you have java fine, if not fine)
  as  user,  $ ./setup          (in  /home/user/OOo101)  (run to
  completion)

  Copy add'l dictionaries to  /home/user/OOo101/share/dict/ooo/*

This is the best way I've found to install OOorg. I haven't had much 
luck with the Install script. 

saludos,
Richard.



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Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Wine

2002-08-08 Thread Felix Underhill




Yes, but you can get the cvs version of WineX, which is free. Also, I think 
D.Olsen posted a link to his website which has an article on how to get the 
cvs version working.




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This is true. I'm running the CVS version of WineX at this moment with 
no problems. This should be the website:  
http://mdkxp.by-a.com/htm/tutorials/winex.php . I couldn't have done it 
without his help (also has a great nvidia drivers installation section).

D





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Re: [newbie] FTP Server

2002-08-08 Thread Arto M

ProFTP is worth trying!

ArtoM


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] FTP Server


On Thursday 08 August 2002 18:52, Miark wrote:
 Jord,

 I run one using ProFTP. I started using it because it was more
 secure than the WU server and because it is easier to configure.
 I've never looked back.

 Miark

 Jordan Elver [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith:
  Hi,
  Just wondered what FTP Server you guys would recommend?
  I've heard of wu-ftpd which a lot of people seem to use. But ProFTP
looks
  pretty good especially since it has Apahe like configuation.
 
  Anyone run an FTP server? :-)

get  gproftpd  it makes proftp very easy to use

LtCdData






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