Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-28 Thread Mike Chalmers

From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:46:19 -0600
On Thursday 27 January 2005 09:27 pm, Mike Chalmers wrote:
 From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
 Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:33:27 +
 
 On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote:
   Thank you both. I went to the web site
 
 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main
 /
 
   , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8
 
 kernel's
 
   and I get this message-
  
   Some package requested cannot be installed:
   kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied
   bootloader-utils[= 1.9])
   do you agree ?
  
  
   I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed 
fine.
   So
 
 I
 
   do not know what to do?
  
  
From,
  
 Mike Chalmers
 
 This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other 
packages.
 This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in 
the
 two
 releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not
 recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will 
very
 likely demand other packages ad infinitum.
 
 So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to 
either
 compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1
 
 BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. 
Your
 2.6.3
 kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu.
 You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI.
 
 derek
 
 
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 Alright, I installed Mandrake 10.1. Does it use XFree 86? If so what
 version? If not what does it use?


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It uses xorgx11 I think it is called. It is basically xfree86 but a branch
that uses the original GNU license. XFree86 changed their license and made 
it
a bit of a problem as far as free and open source folks are concerned.
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On the ATI website they have drivers for X.org. The problem is they are for 
the Xorg 6.8 and Mandrake 10.1 uses Xorg 6.7. Has Mandrake updated to Xorg 
6.8 yet? If not are they planning to?


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Re: [newbie] Connecting a Linux computer to a MS Windows network

2005-01-28 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 28 January 2005 02:28, Bryan Phinney wrote:

snip
 Luckily for me, the screensaver was up and I use a generic one so
 Goober didn't even know what OS I was running.  I booted back
 over to Windows, let it update and then switched right back to
 Linux.  After that, I told them that I had installed VMWare (for
 Testing purposes) and that it just looked like I had Linux
 installed.  With the McDonald's rejects that get hired for tech
 support these days, I am not too concerned that I am going to get
 outsmarted or called on it.

 If you don't have the drive space, get Mandrake Move (Live CD) or
 one of the other varieties, put your config files on a small
 folder set aside for the purpose and boot directly from the CD. 
 If someone happens to come by, simply pull the plug, and complain
 that this is the 20th time today that Windows has crashed on your
 computer and I guarantee you won't see a tech around for another
 month.
/snip

Good one, Bryan !

To supplement : At my hospital, the techies are just those 
McDonald's rejects.  They force me to have Windows on my office PC, 
which is impractical for a surgeon (working with a blood pressure 
way up in the paint cards makes my hands tremble).  So, every 
morning I just throw my Knoppix into the cupholder and off we go.  
And I still refuse to help my colleagues out when their Windows 
boxes turn blue, 'cause I never use the crap.

Now, just to keep the techies away from my PC, whenever I leave my 
office I just use this screensaver (see attached picture).

Kaj Haulrich.
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attachment: screenshot.gif
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[newbie] java

2005-01-28 Thread Dave Needham
hi all.ive just dwnloaded java j2re-1_4_1_01 linux i586-rpm.bin
how do install it please.ive double clicked on it but nothing.
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Re: [newbie] java

2005-01-28 Thread Graham Watkins
Dave Needham wrote:
hi all.ive just dwnloaded java j2re-1_4_1_01 linux i586-rpm.bin
how do install it please.ive double clicked on it but nothing.

This may help (quoted from the readme file that helped with my own 
installation). Change details to match your own version no. of course.

 - Make the shell script executable
% chmod +x j2re-1.4.2-01-linux-ARCH.bin
  (Replace ARCH with the architecture of your system, e.g.
  replace ARCH with i586 if your on an Intel system.)
- Change to the directory you want to install into, e.g /usr/local
% cd /usr/local
- Extract the contents of the Java 2 SDK by running the shell 
script
% ./j2re-1.4.2-01-linux-ARCH.bin
  (Replace ARCH with the architecture of your system, e.g.
  replace ARCH with i586 if your on an Intel system.)
- Add j2re1.4.2/bin to PATH, e.g. if you installed into /usr/local
% export PATH=/usr/local/j2re1.4.2/bin:$PATH

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[newbie] Sagem 800e2/Mandrake 10.0 - New to linux

2005-01-28 Thread mx-7
Hi,

I'm facing a problem to connect to my DSL connection through the USB
Sagem 800e2. It has been succesfully installed with the generic driver
(Eagle) from Mandrake.

The modem synchronises but cannot connect at all. Could be I didnt
setup the connection well. So if you could guide me a bit about it.

Second problem is that I cannot launch anything with WineX (which too
succesfully installed as it appears in the Emulators menu). Got the
WineX setup as well and writing the conf file. Still the same.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you before hand.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Connecting a Linux computer to a MS Windows network

2005-01-28 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks for your replies.

Paul


On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:36:01 +0100, Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 28 January 2005 02:28, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 
 snip
  Luckily for me, the screensaver was up and I use a generic one so
  Goober didn't even know what OS I was running.  I booted back
  over to Windows, let it update and then switched right back to
  Linux.  After that, I told them that I had installed VMWare (for
  Testing purposes) and that it just looked like I had Linux
  installed.  With the McDonald's rejects that get hired for tech
  support these days, I am not too concerned that I am going to get
  outsmarted or called on it.
 
  If you don't have the drive space, get Mandrake Move (Live CD) or
  one of the other varieties, put your config files on a small
  folder set aside for the purpose and boot directly from the CD.
  If someone happens to come by, simply pull the plug, and complain
  that this is the 20th time today that Windows has crashed on your
  computer and I guarantee you won't see a tech around for another
  month.
 /snip
 
 Good one, Bryan !
 
 To supplement : At my hospital, the techies are just those
 McDonald's rejects.  They force me to have Windows on my office PC,
 which is impractical for a surgeon (working with a blood pressure
 way up in the paint cards makes my hands tremble).  So, every
 morning I just throw my Knoppix into the cupholder and off we go.
 And I still refuse to help my colleagues out when their Windows
 boxes turn blue, 'cause I never use the crap.
 
 Now, just to keep the techies away from my PC, whenever I leave my
 office I just use this screensaver (see attached picture).
 
 Kaj Haulrich.
 --
 *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation*
  * http://haulrich.net *
 *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8*
 
 
 
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[newbie] re sagem

2005-01-28 Thread Dave Needham
hi christian
i use the sagem dsl modem and have it working 100%
i just added these ip addresses to the settings in control panel for my isp 
tiscali
first dsn 214.74.112.66
scnd dns 80.225.252.178
third dns optional 80.225.252.178
let me no how you get on
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[newbie] re java

2005-01-28 Thread Dave Needham

-- hi greham
soory dont understand. how do i get a shell up to put comands in,need step by 
step please.new to linux.


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Re: [newbie] Removing KDE removes...everything?

2005-01-28 Thread John Layt
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:12, JoeHill wrote:
 On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:56:35 -0500

 JoeHill disseminated the following:
  I thought to myself, 'hey, I don't use KDE, why don't I just remove it?'.
  Well, according to MCC, that means uninstalling most of my system,
  including seemingly most of Gnome and it's associated lib's as well.
 
  WTF?

 ...just in case anyone was confused, this *is* actually a question, not
 just a shot at KDE, though I have to say I'd be really annoyed to find that
 Mandrake had so integrated everything with KDE that I can't have a working
 system without it :-\

 Anyone have any info on this?

Well, I've done full gnome only and fvwm only installs without KDE using 10.1, 
so it's obviously not impossible (and then promptly used the clean system for 
a kde3.3 install). It's probably something shared between gnome  kde like 
mandrake-mime-types that is screwing things up.  Try rebuilding the rpm 
database, then delete one kde module (but several rpms) at a time, i.e. 
remove kdeartworks, then kdeaddons, then kdepim, then kdeutils, etc...  Leave 
stuff kdelibs, kdebase, etc until the very last.  You may have to leave some 
libs packages lying around, but surely even you can't begrudge a few Mb :-)

John.

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Re: [newbie] re java

2005-01-28 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Friday 28 Jan 2005 10:25, Dave Needham wrote:
 -- hi greham
 soory dont understand. how do i get a shell up to put comands in,need step
 by step please.new to linux.

System  Terminals  Konsole

OTOH, you probably have a black screen on your taskbar?  That will start 
konsole.

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Re: [newbie] re java

2005-01-28 Thread Graham Watkins
Dave Needham wrote:
-- hi greham
soory dont understand. how do i get a shell up to put comands in,need step by 
step please.new to linux.

Hi Dave -don't have time for detailed instructions as I have to go out. 
I'd probably get them wrong anyway.

Assuming you are in KDE, there is a little icon of a monitor on your 
taskbar towards the lefthand side. klick on this and you have a shell to 
type commands in. You should (I think) su to root for this (type su 
root without the quotes and enter root password at the prompt).

Good luck
There are some real geniuses here who pick this up and run with it.
Over to you guys.
Graham

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[newbie] What is happening with XFree86.

2005-01-28 Thread Mike Chalmers
I had a couple of questions about XFree86 and was hoping that someone could 
answer them.

-What is happening?
-Are they still open source?
-Is it that they are not dealing with major distibutions anymore?

  From,

   Mike Chalmers

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Re: [newbie] urpmi locked

2005-01-28 Thread et
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 12:07 pm, Paul wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 14:27, Dave Needham wrote:
  -- here we go again.can some one help me unlock urpmi datebase as it is
  locked.

 su

 ps -A

 kill   (replace ?s with number of urpmi or whatever)

 is the long way, can't think of the short way at the moment
in console, type top you get a page of whatever is eating the most of your 
mem or proc power (in top, just type a capital M or P (no need for 'enter') 
to change the view from what eats the most CPU cycles to what is eating the 
most memory. once you decide what program you want to kill, hit the 'k' and 
then type in the proccess number and then hit enter. hit the space bar to 
refresh the readings and if the program you wanted to kill does not 
disappear, you may have to try a k then a 9 then your process number, as kill 
-15 is the default in top.
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[newbie] Unified login with Windows

2005-01-28 Thread Paul Kaplan
I use an mdk10.1 laptop to connect to a W2K Server based network at work.  (I 
have no administrator rights to the network.)  Every time I need to mount a 
network volume  (locally via samba) or access the MS Exchange mailserver, I 
need to enter my domain, username and password.

Is there a simple way (is there more than one, and if so, what are the 
advantages/disadvantages of each) to let me login to my box once in the 
morning and have the login info passed to the network when needed?  On the 
network side I need access to only one domain, which never changes (although 
I do occasionally attach my box to a simple home home network which obviously 
doesn't use that domain name).  My network password is forced to change every 
60 days and I handle the change via a rare W2K boot/login.

TIA
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Re: [newbie] re java

2005-01-28 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Friday 28 Jan 2005 11:15, Graham Watkins wrote:
 Assuming you are in KDE, there is a little icon of a monitor on your
 taskbar towards the lefthand side. klick on this and you have a shell to
 type commands in. You should (I think) su to root for this (type su
 root without the quotes and enter root password at the prompt).

 Good luck

 There are some real geniuses here who pick this up and run with it.

Not claiming to be one of the geniuses ;-) But -

Type 'su' and you can enter root commands.  To get out, back to your own 
shell, type 'exit'.

Better, though, is to use the menu Session  New Root Session.  This will open 
in a tab and you will always know by the colour whether you are using the 
root session or user one.  Again, 'exit' is the way to close the session.

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Re: [newbie] Connecting a Linux computer to a MS Windows network

2005-01-28 Thread Aron Smith
On Friday 28 January 2005 12:36 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Friday 28 January 2005 02:28, Bryan Phinney wrote:

 snip

  Luckily for me, the screensaver was up and I use a generic one so
  Goober didn't even know what OS I was running.  I booted back
  over to Windows, let it update and then switched right back to
  Linux.  After that, I told them that I had installed VMWare (for
  Testing purposes) and that it just looked like I had Linux
  installed.  With the McDonald's rejects that get hired for tech
  support these days, I am not too concerned that I am going to get
  outsmarted or called on it.
 
  If you don't have the drive space, get Mandrake Move (Live CD) or
  one of the other varieties, put your config files on a small
  folder set aside for the purpose and boot directly from the CD.
  If someone happens to come by, simply pull the plug, and complain
  that this is the 20th time today that Windows has crashed on your
  computer and I guarantee you won't see a tech around for another
  month.

 /snip

 Good one, Bryan !

 To supplement : At my hospital, the techies are just those
 McDonald's rejects.  They force me to have Windows on my office PC,
 which is impractical for a surgeon (working with a blood pressure
 way up in the paint cards makes my hands tremble).  So, every
 morning I just throw my Knoppix into the cupholder and off we go.
 And I still refuse to help my colleagues out when their Windows
 boxes turn blue, 'cause I never use the crap.

 Now, just to keep the techies away from my PC, whenever I leave my
 office I just use this screensaver (see attached picture).

 Kaj Haulrich.
Sneaky.. I like it :-)


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Re: [newbie] Le mot maudit -- just a test

2005-01-28 Thread et
On Thursday 27 January 2005 01:43 pm, N. B. Day wrote:
 Just a test to see if my posts aren't getting through because of
 something in my sig.  This one has the sig.
naw,, it's just your looks
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Re: [newbie] re java

2005-01-28 Thread Graham Watkins
Dave Needham wrote:
-- hi greham
soory dont understand. how do i get a shell up to put comands in,need step by 
step please.new to linux.

Hi Dave -don't have time for detailed instructions as I have to go out. 
I'd probably get them wrong anyway.

Assuming you are in KDE, there is a little icon of a monitor on your 
taskbar towards the lefthand side. klick on this and you have a shell to 
type commands in. You should (I think) su to root for this (type su 
root without the quotes and enter root password at the prompt).

Good luck
There are some real geniuses here who can pick this up and run with it.
Over to you guys.
Graham

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Re: [newbie] re sagem

2005-01-28 Thread mx-7
Dave,

Thank you for the tips but it is not working neither. 

My ISP is Wanadoo.mu (MU stands for Mauritius) I already have input
the DSN (202.123.2.6  202.123.2.11 respectively) and still cannot
connect.

If someone has a tips on how to get the modem to work, would be much
appreciated.

Thank you before hand.

Regards,
Christan.


On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:22:29 +, Dave Needham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi christian
 i use the sagem dsl modem and have it working 100%
 i just added these ip addresses to the settings in control panel for my isp
 tiscali
 first dsn 214.74.112.66
 scnd dns 80.225.252.178
 third dns optional 80.225.252.178
 let me no how you get on
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Re: [newbie] Powershell and $TERM

2005-01-28 Thread Paul
Op Fri, 28 Jan 2005 02:09:39 -0500 schreef Miark:

 In a bash-script it would look like this:
 
 
 TERM=vt100
 MicroEMACS  # Insert proper command if this is wrong.
 

Ah, that's good. But there are other things that need it too,
such as less and god knows what else. Is there a way to export
the variable permanently?

Yup. If you need it for your user-id only, add this to your
~/.bash_profile:

TERM=vt100
export $TERM

Logout, login and it is in your environment.

If you need it for everyone on your machine, add the lines to
/etc/profile.

Good luck!
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Re: [newbie] What is happening with XFree86.

2005-01-28 Thread JR
On Friday 28 January 2005 06:20 am, Mike Chalmers wrote:
 I had a couple of questions about XFree86 and was hoping that someone could
 answer them.

 -What is happening?
 -Are they still open source?
 -Is it that they are not dealing with major distibutions anymore?
All I know is that it is the distributions that are not dealing with them, as 
opposed to the other way around. XFree86 changed it's licence to be a little 
more restrictive, and the GNU / open source advocates didn't like it. I'm 
sure if you visit their website, you can view the licence.

Xorg is being maintained by former XFree programmers and then some, who were 
unhappy with the progress and direction of XFree. Many features such as 
windows transparency and DRI were actually coded, but couldn't get included 
in the main project for some reason. Since all that code was waiting in the 
wings, Xorg is going in leaps and bounds.

Regards,

Jarlath


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[newbie] Program to search the Internet for torrents

2005-01-28 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All

I am looking for a program to search the Internet for torrents. Is
there such a thing for Linux?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Connecting a Linux computer to a MS Windows network

2005-01-28 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

--- Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 28 January 2005 02:28, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 
 snip
  Luckily for me, the screensaver was up and I use a generic one so
  Goober didn't even know what OS I was running.  I booted back
  over to Windows, let it update and then switched right back to
  Linux.  After that, I told them that I had installed VMWare (for
  Testing purposes) and that it just looked like I had Linux
  installed.  With the McDonald's rejects that get hired for tech
  support these days, I am not too concerned that I am going to get
  outsmarted or called on it.
 
  If you don't have the drive space, get Mandrake Move (Live CD) or
  one of the other varieties, put your config files on a small
  folder set aside for the purpose and boot directly from the CD. 
  If someone happens to come by, simply pull the plug, and complain
  that this is the 20th time today that Windows has crashed on your
  computer and I guarantee you won't see a tech around for another
  month.
 /snip
 
 Good one, Bryan !
 
 To supplement : At my hospital, the techies are just those 
 McDonald's rejects.  They force me to have Windows on my office PC, 
 which is impractical for a surgeon (working with a blood pressure 
 way up in the paint cards makes my hands tremble).  So, every 
 morning I just throw my Knoppix into the cupholder and off we go.  
 And I still refuse to help my colleagues out when their Windows 
 boxes turn blue, 'cause I never use the crap.
 
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[newbie] Re: Powershell and $TERM

2005-01-28 Thread J. David Boyd
Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 When I try to run MicroEMACS in Powershell, I get
 Environment variable TERM not defined! So if I 
 TERM=vt100 and then export TERM all is well. 
 Unless I close and open it again, that is.
 
 How do I make this change permanent without affecting
 other working term emulators which I still use regularly?
 
 Miark

Does Powershell have a .rc file?

For instance, bash has .bashrc, where one may place initialization commands to
be run whenever a shell start.

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Re: [newbie] Powershell and $TERM

2005-01-28 Thread Miark
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:36:17 +0100, Paul wrote:

 Ah, that's good. But there are other things that need it too,
 such as less and god knows what else. Is there a way to export
 the variable permanently?
 
 Yup. If you need it for your user-id only, add this to your
 ~/.bash_profile:
 
 TERM=vt100
 export $TERM
 
 Logout, login and it is in your environment.
 
 If you need it for everyone on your machine, add the lines to
 /etc/profile.

Hmm, that looks like it should work, but for some reason, it 
doesn't. Odd.

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Re: [newbie] Re: Powershell and $TERM

2005-01-28 Thread Miark
On 28 Jan 2005 12:23:38 -0500, J. wrote:

 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  When I try to run MicroEMACS in Powershell, I get
  Environment variable TERM not defined! So if I 
  TERM=vt100 and then export TERM all is well. 
  Unless I close and open it again, that is.
  
  How do I make this change permanent without affecting
  other working term emulators which I still use regularly?
  
  Miark
 
 Does Powershell have a .rc file?

It does, but I've gone through the docs and it doesn't
have the ability to set variables--at least not that I
could see. It only sets built in preferences.

Well, for the time being, I'm going to have to give up
and just use konsole instead. It's slow to open, but it's
my term em of choice, so I can't complain. I still love
XFCE 4.2, even if I can't use Powershell.

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Re: [newbie] Powershell and $TERM

2005-01-28 Thread Paul
Op Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:02:41 -0500 schreef Miark:

 TERM=vt100
 export $TERM
 
 Logout, login and it is in your environment.
 
 If you need it for everyone on your machine, add the lines to
 /etc/profile.

Hmm, that looks like it should work, but for some reason, it 
doesn't. Odd.

Whoops... I see I made a slight typo.
The export command does not need the $ in front of the variable.
So, perhaps you could try this with

export TERM

and see if that works. Sorry about that!
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[newbie] Archives

2005-01-28 Thread Noel McG.
I realize that this has been asked before but can someone give me the add
for the newbie archives please.

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Re: [newbie] Re: Powershell and $TERM

2005-01-28 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Miark wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 12:23:38 -0500, J. wrote:

Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

When I try to run MicroEMACS in Powershell, I get
Environment variable TERM not defined! So if I 
TERM=vt100 and then export TERM all is well. 
Unless I close and open it again, that is.

How do I make this change permanent without affecting
other working term emulators which I still use regularly?
Miark
Does Powershell have a .rc file?

It does, but I've gone through the docs and it doesn't
have the ability to set variables--at least not that I
could see. It only sets built in preferences.
Well, for the time being, I'm going to have to give up
and just use konsole instead. It's slow to open, but it's
my term em of choice, so I can't complain. I still love
XFCE 4.2, even if I can't use Powershell.
Miark
Does Powershell set TERM to any value? If it sets it to a terminal type 
that isn't defined, there is hope...

If TERM isn't defined, you may be able to add something to .bashrc - 
something like (untested)

if [ ! $TERM ] ; then export TERM=xterm ; fi
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Re: [newbie] Archives

2005-01-28 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 29 January 2005 00:09, Noel McG. wrote:
 I realize that this has been asked before but can someone give me
 the add for the newbie archives please.

 Thanks.

http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/maillist.html

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Re: [newbie] Archives

2005-01-28 Thread RickSisler
Noel McG. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I realize that this has been asked before but can someone give me the add
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 Thanks.
The Community twiki has many ..
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MailingLists#Mailing_List_Archives

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Re: [newbie] Powershell and $TERM

2005-01-28 Thread Miark
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:17:58 +0100, Paul wrote:

 Op Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:02:41 -0500 schreef Miark:
 
  TERM=vt100
  export $TERM
  
  Logout, login and it is in your environment.
  
  If you need it for everyone on your machine, add the lines
 to  /etc/profile.
 
 Hmm, that looks like it should work, but for some reason, it 
 doesn't. Odd.
 
 Whoops... I see I made a slight typo.
 The export command does not need the $ in front of the
 variable. So, perhaps you could try this with
 
 export TERM
 
 and see if that works. Sorry about that!

Ya, tried that too. No go! :-(

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Re: [newbie] Re: Powershell and $TERM -- SUCCESS!

2005-01-28 Thread Miark
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:17:57 -0600, Mikkel wrote:

 Miark wrote:
 Does Powershell set TERM to any value? If it sets it to a
 terminal type  that isn't defined, there is hope...
 
 If TERM isn't defined, you may be able to add something to
 .bashrc -  something like (untested)
 
 if [ ! $TERM ] ; then export TERM=xterm ; fi

An echo $TERM replied dumb so I thought it did define one,
but I tried your trick in .bashrc and voila! It works!!

Thanks a bunch! Thanks to Paul, too, for the different ideas.

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Re: [newbie] Re: Powershell and $TERM -- SPOKE TOO SOON

2005-01-28 Thread Miark
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:25:14 -0500, Miark wrote:

 On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:17:57 -0600, Mikkel wrote:
 
  Miark wrote:
  Does Powershell set TERM to any value? If it sets it to a
  terminal type  that isn't defined, there is hope...
  
  If TERM isn't defined, you may be able to add something to
  .bashrc -  something like (untested)
  
  if [ ! $TERM ] ; then export TERM=xterm ; fi
 
 An echo $TERM replied dumb so I thought it did define one,
 but I tried your trick in .bashrc and voila! It works!!

Okay, false alarm. During my test, I opened powershell _from_
konsole, so it worked because konsole exported TERM. When I 
opened powershell from the XFCE launch bar directly, it failed.
So I'm back to square one.

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[newbie] Thunderbird problem

2005-01-28 Thread Andy Yankovich
I still have Thunderbird on my system, but when I tried to access 
new mail screen opened with dialog to set up an account.

Somehow I lost the existing account I had been using for a few 
days and all folders and addresses. Is the problem with my ISP or 
in/on my 10.1 system? I'll try Evolution,
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[newbie] Evolution fails to install

2005-01-28 Thread Andy Yankovich
Trying to install Evloution, unable to install:
Due to unsatisfied libgnutls.so.11
Is there something I can do to solve this?
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Re: [newbie] Re: Powershell and $TERM -- SPOKE TOO SOON

2005-01-28 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:29:44 -0500
Miark wrote:

 When I 
 opened powershell from the XFCE launch bar directly,

Try using this as the command in the Xfce entry

powershell  TERM=vt100  export TERM



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Re: [newbie] Re: Powershell and $TERM -- SPOKE TOO SOON

2005-01-28 Thread Miark
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:23:46 -0500, Charles wrote:

  When I opened powershell from the XFCE launch bar directly,
 
 Try using this as the command in the Xfce entry
 
 powershell  TERM=vt100  export TERM

Promising, but no. :-/

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Re: [newbie] Re: Powershell and $TERM -- SPOKE TOO SOON

2005-01-28 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Miark wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:25:14 -0500, Miark wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:17:57 -0600, Mikkel wrote:

Miark wrote:
Does Powershell set TERM to any value? If it sets it to a
terminal type  that isn't defined, there is hope...
If TERM isn't defined, you may be able to add something to
.bashrc -  something like (untested)
if [ ! $TERM ] ; then export TERM=xterm ; fi
An echo $TERM replied dumb so I thought it did define one,
but I tried your trick in .bashrc and voila! It works!!

Okay, false alarm. During my test, I opened powershell _from_
konsole, so it worked because konsole exported TERM. When I 
opened powershell from the XFCE launch bar directly, it failed.
So I'm back to square one.

Miark
Well, that is easy to fix.  Change it to:
if [ $TERM = dumb ] ; then export TERM=xterm ; fi
One thing to keep in mind - if Powerterm is setting TERM to dumb, then 
it probably does not support some of the terminal functions of xterm. So 
some programs may not work correctly. There really is a terminal 
definition called dumb, with its own description of terminal capabilities.

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Re: [newbie] Evolution fails to install

2005-01-28 Thread Dennis Myers
On Friday 28 January 2005 09:11 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote:
 Trying to install Evloution, unable to install:
 Due to unsatisfied libgnutls.so.11
 Is there something I can do to solve this?
 Thanks, Andy
If you go here : http://rpmfind.net/
type in the libgnutls.so.11 and then click search it will bring up the main 
lib file that that piece is in. Chances are it is on your disks but you can 
also urpmi that lib. I find this a good way to discover where .so. files 
live. Maybe someone has a better method? HTH
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Re: [newbie] Re: Powershell and $TERM -- REALLY SOLVED!

2005-01-28 Thread Miark
 Well, that is easy to fix.  Change it to:
 
 if [ $TERM = dumb ] ; then export TERM=xterm ; fi

_THAT_ did it!! Hurray!

 One thing to keep in mind - if Powerterm is setting TERM to
 dumb, then  it probably does not support some of the terminal
 functions of xterm. So  some programs may not work correctly.
 There really is a terminal  definition called dumb, with its
 own description of terminal capabilities.

At this point I only really care about less, clear, and
MicroEMACS, and they all seem to work fine so far, so I'm
happy as a proverbial pig.

Thanks much!

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Re: [newbie] Re: Powershell and $TERM -- SPOKE TOO SOON

2005-01-28 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Miark wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:25:14 -0500, Miark wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:17:57 -0600, Mikkel wrote:

Miark wrote:
Does Powershell set TERM to any value? If it sets it to a
terminal type  that isn't defined, there is hope...
If TERM isn't defined, you may be able to add something to
.bashrc -  something like (untested)
if [ ! $TERM ] ; then export TERM=xterm ; fi

An echo $TERM replied dumb so I thought it did define one,
but I tried your trick in .bashrc and voila! It works!!

Okay, false alarm. During my test, I opened powershell _from_
konsole, so it worked because konsole exported TERM. When I opened 
powershell from the XFCE launch bar directly, it failed.
So I'm back to square one.

Miark
Well, that is easy to fix.  Change it to:
if [ $TERM = dumb ] ; then export TERM=xterm ; fi
One thing to keep in mind - if Powerterm is setting TERM to dumb, then 
it probably does not support some of the terminal functions of xterm. So 
some programs may not work correctly. There really is a terminal 
definition called dumb, with its own description of terminal 
capabilities.

On looking at this, I realized that I didn't explain what the first and 
second versions do. I usually try to explain when I post on the newbie 
list...

On the first version, the [ ! $TERM ] test checks to see if the 
variable $TERM has a value. the ! before $TERM basicly inverts the test, 
so you execute the commands if $TERM in not set. So if $TERM=xterm, 
$TERM=dumb, , or $TERM is set to anything else, you do not change it.

On the new version, [ $TERM=dumb ] says check if $TERM is set to 
dumb, and if it is, change it to xterm.

The export TERM=xterm does two things in one command. It sets $TERM to 
xterm, and exports it so that the value stays set after .bashrc is run. 
If you do not export the value, then it is lost as soon as the script exits.

One other point - this will only work if you are using bash as your 
shell. This is the default on MDK, but you can change it. If you do, 
then .bashrc is no longer run when you open a terminal window...

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Re: [newbie] Archives

2005-01-28 Thread Noel McG.
Thanks.


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From: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Archives


 On Saturday 29 January 2005 00:09, Noel McG. wrote:
  I realize that this has been asked before but can someone give me
  the add for the newbie archives please.
 
  Thanks.

 http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/maillist.html

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