Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 on IBM A20p
Hi, I have a Thinpad A21p. A slightly higher model. Mandrake 7.2 is running fine. Not a single problem. I have video, sound, and modem all working. Aaron mikael koh wrote: Hello all! I'm new to the linux world and new to this mailing list too. I wish to install mandrake 7.2 on my IBM A20p laptop. anyone has the same machine as mine and installed 7.2 ?? i wish to know any problems tt u hav encountered and any advice u may wanna give pertaining to optimizing mandrake 7.2 for A20p. thank you very much!! mikael __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Visor, jpilot, usb, and Mandrake 7.2
Jim, I have a Visor, which I'm attempting to Sync with Mdk 7.2. Not much luck with the USB. So i bought a serial cradle, and that has wokrked fine. Once I upgrade to 2.4 I'm going to attempt the USB cradel again. Anyhow... about your problem... one thing that is different between the two computers is the chipset on your motherboard. With your older Pentium you had an Intel chipset (probaly VX or BX) But with your new Duron you've got a Via KT133 chipset. Now I don't know if this is the cuase of your problems or not, but its something to look into. Also, out of curiosity, at what point in the sync does it fail? I had some problems with jpilot trying to sync the mail program on my Visor, even whenI didn't use the mail program. Aaron On Saturday 16 December 2000 10:22, you wrote: Does anyone on this list use jpilot to sync their Handspring Visor via a USB cradle running Mandrake 7.2? I recently purchased a new PC. Though I never had problems with the above configuration on my ol' 133 MHz Pentium, my sync fails after only a few files on my new 700 MHz Duron. I'm wondering if the extra speed is the reason??? Thanks -- Jim http://www.lads.com/~jim
[newbie] Does anyone use/sync a Visor with Linux?
I have a Handspring Visor and am attempting to sync it using the standard USB cradle. Needless to say I'm not having much luck. Before I bore everyone with the details of my dilemma, I'd like to know if anyone has a Visor or some other USB device that they sync. If noone does, I'll look elsewhere for answers. Thanks, Aaron
[newbie] ATI Radeon video card.
Anyone using a Radeon video card in linux? Aaron
[newbie] 7.2 - mouse buttons/menus different -- how to change back?
Not sure if this is someting new in Mdk 7.2 or if I'm screwed up my config somewhere. I just finished a fresh install of 7.2 and I prefer Enlightenment as my window manager. However my mouse buttons don't open the same menus that they did in 7.1 Old way (7.1): Left button - User Menu, help, logout Middle button - configuration right button - configuration stuff New way (7.2) : Left button - nothing!! Middle button - DrakMenu, logot, config right button - config stuff It appears that everything is there... its just been shuffled around. The menu I really miss is the User Menu that was available with a left click. You could put your commonly used programs in it and they are just one click away. Now you have to navigate through 3 levels of menus to launch something. If someone could tell me how to launch the menu box with my left button I can cofigure the menu myself. Aaron
Re: [newbie] Bad Disk - need replacement
Well if you want it ASAP run down to the local Walmart or BestBuy. I've seen the retail package of Mandrake 7.1 for sale at those stores. It was running about $30. Or if you can wait, order just the CDs from Cheapbytes or the like. There you get just the CDs, but at an extremely low cost. Aaron At 08:35 PM 10/26/2000 -0500, you wrote: I was having a terrible time getting my CD-ROM to read my 7.1 install Disk. It got to the point where I thought my CD was failing. Then after a long drive of thinking it dawned on me to look at the disk. It is cracked though from the inner hole in a straight line out about 3/4". So it it needs replacing. Any ideas on how to get a replacement disk do I can install 7.1. I have a 56K connect so downloading it for 18 hours is not a real good option.
[newbie] linux newbie IRC chat rooms
I'm looking for a good IRC chat room for where linux newbies can get together and help each other and discuss Linux. I know there are already a ton of linux chats out there, but I haven't found a "good" one yet. Alot of the rooms I stumble into are overflowing with tons of newbies all yelling for the attention of a few "gurus" I'm looking for a smaller group of newbies that enjoys helping one another, and teach others new things.Anyone know of a chatroom such as this? If so please share it, either email me direct or post it to this group. Thanks! Aaron
Re: [newbie] opengl [repost]
Paul - I'm not an expert but I think Mesa is a 3D interface for running OpenGL software/hardware. I'm not sure if your video card will support OpenGL. I know many newer 3D accelerators do (3DFX Voodoo, nVidia TNT2/GEforce, Matrox G400, etc). I would check out Mesa and see if it supports your video card (i think it has a website ... www.mesa.org?) If it does I would check your Mesa configuration. If it doesn't, you maybe out of luck if the game requires Mesa to run (Quake 3/Unreal Tournament?) Hope this helps you out some. Aaron At 04:06 PM 10/3/2000 -0200, you wrote: Hi, everybody. I had trouble searching so please be patient if this has recently been dealt with. I tried running a game i got from this cd recently, and I got this error: "-- is Mesa compiled for your hardware?" -- if you're using 3DFX hardware, is MESA_GLX_FX set to 'f'?" "-- if you're using a custom GL, are you specifying it on the command line?" I'm not really sure what these questions mean. Has anybody had similar trouble. I seem to have the Mesa RPM's installed (on Mandrake 7.1) and my laptop has an ATI 3D Rage P/M Mobility card that is properly detected. I haven't had any other video related troubles other than choppy screensavers in gnome. :) Thanks in advance, everybody! -Paul R _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting
I believe you can put quotes around the directory so in this case it would be: cd /mnt/windows/"Program Files" Aaron At 07:10 AM 10/2/2000 -0400, you wrote: Have you tried this one yet? cd /mnt/windows/progra~1 (progra~1) is what you will need to get there. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:29pm ,John Rye spake passionately in a message: Goldenpi wrote: Sound like me. My obsession with getting every possable flop from my notebook is getting me in deep to windows 98. I have even gone to the length of removeing the icon for c:\mydocu~1 to save the time loading up. I have gone so far as to disable the warning that appears when the wiondows folder is opened. Today I had it apart while I put in a new processor. Its underclocked right now because it was overheating a bit. I actually renamed c:\my documents to c:\my_docs-and then edited the registry, ini files, everything so that windows wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I have moved as much as possable out of the windows folder. It is now the fastest (former) pentium 133Mhz with 16mi ram and 1gi hd you are likely to find. It is currently running at 166 but is rated for 200 when I solve the cooling problem. oh, how to I get to c:\Program files in a linux console? I have tried every command I can think of. did you try: 'cd /Program?Files', remember that white space in a filename is legal in MACos and Windows but in few others.. Cheers - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting term hacker to me refers to a devoted computer user who loves to tweak and modify and know everything about the system and to get everything out of it they possibly can from performance to information, the fact that the GOV and large companys dont like it well i cant help that we want to learn about the system and they just happen to be part of it!!! just my opinion
Re: [newbie] How to delete an ext2 partition under DOS
There is a nice little freeware utility called DelPart. It can be found online, I don't have an exact URL, you'll have to search for it. Very handy to have around. Can delete any partition. Aaron At 04:31 PM 8/28/2000 +0200, you wrote: Hi guys, I'd need some help. I have a 20GB disk, c: (/dev/hda1) is windows, 2GB, FAT32; d: (/dev/hda5) is windows stuff, 16GB, FAT32; /dev/hda6 is Linux /, 1.72GB, Ext2, /dev/hda7 is Linux swap, 128MB (the rest). Now my question is - how can I delete that /dev/hda6 partition? I need it for windows at the moment and DOS fdisk doesn't see it. Not even as NON-DOS partition, which would give me an option to delete it. What can I do apart from Partition Magic which I don't have the money for? Thanx in advance Roman
[newbie] changing block size
Hello, I want to change the block size of my ext2fs partition from the default 4096 to 1024. Can some tell me how to do this? I realize I will need to reinstall. However when I started the install I couldn't find any options to change the block size. Is the done at the partitioning step or the format step? Thanks, Aaron
Re: [newbie] perl terminated install
Hi Ed, I had the same problem when trying to install Mandrake 7.02 on an Athlon System. I don't know what caused it, but I think it has something to do with the length of time you take to install. My installs were also crashing during or after the partitioning segment. After the 2nd crash I knew exactly what I wanted to do with my partitions so when I got to that step I partitioned the drives quickly and moved on, and the installer didn't crash. So maybe that will work for you to. Aaron At 02:37 PM 5/31/00 -1000, you wrote: Hi: I was reinstallating LM 7 under the 'recommended' mode and suddenly 'perl' program terminated the install for the reason that my system or whatever was not in (or does not support) 'english' mode...i just went 'HUH?'. At this point, I can still boot to Windows w/ LILO but my Linux is dead since 'perl' terminated installation (after partitioning and formatting my 2nd HD) before I can input the root password. thanks all. edison Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] DISCUSSION: My first Suggestion (Installer Problem)
Denis- Its great to hear the guys at Mandrake are willing to listen to the end users. Here is my first input: The install program is very slick. However at one point in the install, after you have partitioned the drive you are shown a slider bar and asked to pick how much software you want to install. (you choose the amount of megabytes to install). I find this very confusing. If i pick 800mb what is being installed? Am I getting all the packages I need?? If you do an expert install you are later given a list of software and you can pick and choose what packages you want. But if you are not doing the basic install Mandrake simply installs xxx megabytes of software and the user has no idea what it is getting. I find this to be extremely non-user-friendly. Especially since I like to know what is going to be installed on my box. Perhaps in the next version you could rework the install so that you are give a list of "prepackaged" install options such as "light, medium, everything" But then in the next window you would have the total list of packages and the user can add/remove items. Thanks for listening. Aaron Zuercher At 08:30 PM 5/25/00 +0200, you wrote: Hi, folks! What follows is probably a single most important letter I ever posted on these mailing lists, so please read it very carefully! [ANNOUNCEMENT] We (Mandrakesoft) are starting internal discussions about future of our distributions NOW. We want you to take part in the process of improving our next distro. - NOW is a time to ask us whatever you want: tell us what you like, tell us what you hate, tell us what you dream of! - NOW is a time for you to influence the future company decisions - start thinking, and if you come up with a briliant idea, post it here. Starting NOW, I am going to stop sleeping, eating, or doing any other job which would interfere with currently most important task: Making sure we make the best decisions based on whatever input we can get. [RULES] * Basically everything you can think of is open for discussion, except question of including non-free software in the core of our distro, which is absolute NO-NO. * Listen to what other people have to say. Try keeping the signal/noise ratio as high as possible. * One topic per e-mail and informative subject line help us a lot. ("125 Great ideas!!!" is a very bad subject line.) * Please, try to avoid any kind of flaming on the list for the next 10 days. * Finaly, If you have time and skills to pick up ideas from long discussion threads and write a good summary, please do it, it will help us a lot. [TOPICS] Topics we are particularly interested in at this moment include: 1) ergonomics: What should our user interfaces look like in the future, what should we improve in our desktop configuration, which things need polishing... 2) install:Which features of our current installation program (DrakX) do you like, which features are you missing, what is not clear enough? The same question goes for post-install configuration tools. 3) packages: which packages to add, what to remove from the distro, which subset of packages is really nessesary for a minimal install, and which packages are "just add-ons"? 4) tools: which new tools (packages) should we develop ourselves, or improve in case we are already developing them? Many great programs already exist out there, so we really badly need to know which important linux tools you still miss, in order to concentrate on them in the future. 5) system policy: We want to make our system "logical" by following the Linux Standards, and being consistent in the way "things" (services, settings) are implemented. Tell us where we need to improve. 6) security policy: Closely related to point "6". You know that we care a lot about security, don't you? Well, the problem is choosing right security settings for various situations. (If you feel that we have forgotten an important topic, just start a discusion on it, the list should not be taken too strictly) I am going to spend a lot of time in reading "newbie" and "expert" mailing lists during next two weeks. Guillaume will do the same on the "cooker" list, and other members of the company may pop-up and take part in discussion too, for topics they may be particularly interested in (and if they get time to do it, our schedule is bursting). At the end of the discussion cycle (in two weeks), I will try to write a resume of what has been decided and share it with you. yours Denis Havlik -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [newbie] Diamond sound card
Hi, Aureal released sound drivers for Linux. You can download them at www.a3d.com. Aaron At 02:09 PM 5/22/00 -0400, you wrote: Hi there, I have a Diamond MX300 sound card with Aureal Vertex2 chip, and my Mandrake 7 doesn't support it. So, I guess I have nothing can do unless I get a new driver from Diamond or Aureal? Or I can use some driver that can let my sound card work as a SoundBlaster? Thanks!
[newbie] Why is turnaround so slow on this mail list?
I send a message and it doesn't appear in my inbox for hours, sometimes a day later. Some mail lists have 5 min. turnaround... whats the deal? Also, is there a mandrake IRC channel? If not, I might consider starting one, but would like to know the interest level in the group. Let me know. Aaron
Re: [newbie] reaching maximal mount count
Wade, Linux keeps track of how many times you mount a filesystem, and after a certain number (not sure how many) It fscks the drive. Its is preventative maintenance and nothing to be worried about. Aaron At 08:39 AM 5/18/00 -0700, you wrote: Hi List, During boot up this morning I saw a new message that said; /dev/hda5 has reached maximal mount count mount count check forced ??? What have I done to generate this 'mount count check'? After running through the mount count check all seems to be well and running smoothly, but I just want to know how I caused this and how I prevent it in the future. Much thanks, b/web Wade PS - Thanks for you help with my list subscription Denis!
Re: [newbie] CD-RW Support problem/?...URGENT
Michael, That burner should work OK. If it is SCSI there won't be a problem. If it is IDE you will probably have to turn on SCSI emulation in the kernel (if it isn't already). I think all burners should work ok with possible exceptions of the TDK VeloCD and an external USB burners. Aaron At 11:03 AM 5/8/00 -0800, you wrote: I just completed a telephone order for a PANASONIC CW 7585 cd burner; as an after thought i asked if it was supported by Linux. They said they didn't know- so i asked them to hold it while i queried y'all. Does anyone know if i can actually use this unit(cuz they probably didn't hold it)?? I have a 500mhz amd k62 128megs(soon to be 256) 8.5 gig TIA, -michael-
[newbie] Disableing Supermount and other fstab questions
Hi, How do I disable supermount? Also, I would like my non-root user to be able to mount and umount my CDROM and ZIP drives. What permissions do I need to give to what to do this? As it stands currently I have to SU before I mount and umount. Thanks, Aaron
Re: [newbie] Trying to hd install LM7.0-2 air and keep getting error
I had an error like this when I tried to boot off the CDROM and install Mandrake 7. However If I make a CDROM boot disk and use that the install was fine. Aaron At 07:13 PM 5/3/00 -0500, you wrote: I have been trying to hd install drake but when it gets to stage 2 ramdisk ::: Loading second stage ramdisk ... install exited abnormally -- recieved signal 9 sending termination signals... done sending kill signals... done unmounting filesystem /tmp/hdimage/proc you may safely reboot your system I dont have a cd rom it burned out and i d/c it, 2 hd main-4gig 2nd-1gig pentium 75 somebody help me p[lease before i pull out whats left of my hair. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] XFishTank :-)
Hi, I found this site that has a few additional gizmos (ants, cockroaches, hang gliders,etc)... but no "Flying through Space". I agree with you... "Flying through Space" would be really cool, let me know if you find something like it. http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/X11/demos/!INDEX.html Aaron At 03:00 AM 4/30/00 +0400, Nickolay Belostotsky wrote: Hello! Does anyone know of other programs with the concept like XFishTank - i.e. to make the desktop background animated? The 'Fly through space' would be great! :-) Thanks, -- Koly
Re: [newbie] version of XF86 ?
One way is to type "xdpyinfo" (without quotes) at a terminal prompt. One of the first lines it spits out is the vendor release number. This is the version. I believe the default that comes with Mandrake is 3.3.6. Aaron At 10:57 AM 4/17/00 -0700, you wrote: Hello, I have a lot of trouble getting X configured properly on my Inspiron laptop. I try to get some hints from a few websites of persons having done it, and it looks like the version of XF86 matters. How can I now the version of XF86 provided with Mandrake 7 ? Thanks, Xavier.
[newbie] VMWare and Mandrake 7.0 Followup
OK, Just a note about my VMWare situation. If you remember from my previous email I had some problems with a version conflict between my C Headers and my booting kernel. What I did was simply goto the CDROM and force a reinstall of the kernel-2.2.14-15mdk.i586.rpm package. This contains all the source for the kernel. After reinstalling that rpm I rebooted the box, logged in as root, and reinstalled VMWare with no problems. Aaron
[newbie] VMWare
Hello List, Anyone get VMWare to work on MDK 7.0 ? I could use some assistance. Here is the error I recieve when I try to install and config both VMWare 1.1.2 and VMWare 2.0 Beta: The directory of kernel headers (version 2.2.14-15mdk) doesn't match your running kernel (version 2.2.14-1mdklinus). Consequently, even if the compilation of the module was successful, the module would not load into the running kernel. My linux box is running the stock kernel. Do I need to recompile it? Any assistance is appreciated. Aaron Zuercher
Re: [newbie] Changing Desktop Resolution ?????
If you are using Mandrake 7.0 or 7.02 use DrakConfig. To do this double-click the DrakConf icon on the desktop. This will open up the DrakConf util menu. One of the menu items is Change X Resolution. This is a nice GUI that allows you to change color depth and resolution. It will require a reboot. Aaron - Original Message - From: Samir Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 8:12 AM Subject: [newbie] Changing Desktop Resolution ? during the Install process I selected the appropriate video card monitor, tested the resolution + color depth applied the settings. Although, now I would like to change the resolution of my desktop without going through the earlier process. Is there a tool/utility that allows me to do this on the fly? Thank you. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0
I don't have a solution, however I just wanted to say that I had the same error when trying to boot of the CDROM. However when I made boot disks and used them it worked fine. This is with ISO image 7.0. Aaron - Original Message - From: Edgar Manik To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 10:37 AM Subject: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0 Hi, Every time I want to install mandrake 7.0 (floppy or cdrom boot), it always stop at installation program, with the message "Failed to mount ramdisk. This shouldn't be happened, Rebooting..." Anybody know or have experience this problem. I am getting frustrated to install mandrake, even after I download the update for cdrom.img and hd.img. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks... Cheers,
Re: [newbie] Can anyone recommend a good email program?
Not desperate.. just spoiled... :) Tried Post Office... has lots of promise, but lacks polish... know of any others? Aaron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Can anyone recommend a good email program? Might be a daft question but what's wrong with ELM and PINE? You desperate to have a GUI interface? Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst "Aaron Zuercher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 15/02/2000 14:21:47 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: [newbie] Can anyone recommend a good email program? Hello, I'm used to using MS Outlook Express and also Agent for email in Windows. Looking for a comparable program in Linux. Any Ideas? Thanks, Aaron
Re: [newbie] HELP!!! After deleting /tmp
Have you tried rebooting? If the files were in a /tmp directory, they should have been temporary.. therefore, if you reboot perhaps the necessary files will be recreated. Aaron - Original Message - From: Brent Timmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 9:37 AM Subject: [newbie] HELP!!! After deleting /tmp Help!! I deleted the files in /tmp(thinking they were only temporary files). Now I can't get into blackbox, cant run simple commands like (xv, setroot, imwheel, root, and many other). Can someone tell me what I did and how I can fix it, please?!
[newbie] Can anyone recommend a good email program?
Hello, I'm used to using MS Outlook Express and also Agent for email in Windows. Looking for a comparable program in Linux. Any Ideas? Thanks, Aaron
[newbie] MDKUpdate works?
Hi Everyone. Tried running MDKUpdate on my Mandrake 7.0 box. A msg says that it is finding packages, but then a window popups and there is nothing there. Now is there no updated packages for version 7.0 or is my Update not working properly. I've tried choosing different mirrors, but no change. Aaron
Re: [newbie] Unsubscribe
lol... nice vent :) first rate! Actually you make a very good point. If people can't even unsubscribe from a mailing list how do they ever expect to learn and use a operating system like Linux. Aaron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Unsubscribe Right - I must have sent the following message to about 20 peope *today*all trying to unsubscribe.To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in thesubject :unsubscribe newbie.or go to the web page and unsubscribe via the web interface.If you are still on the list and want to get off it, then you can't justsend messages to it screaming to be unsubscribed. You're sending email toall of the rest of us - not the list administrator!When you signed up, you received an email with the following instructionsin it - I presume you all just charged ahead, deleted it and expected magicto happen when you want to unsubscribe. Magic only happens in the kernel -something which you people are unlikely to ever come to grips with becauseyou can't read and follow simple intructions.Christ - you pop onto this list, whine that Linux sucks because it doesn'tsupport your electron microscope controller interface, nor does itmagically configure every piece of hardware in your house, including yourVCR, and expect someone to wipe your arses for you when you want to unsub.Unix is complicated. It's very powerful and there's lots of it. If you failto follow intsructions to unsubscribe yourself from the list, then you haveabsolutely NO hope of ever getting it to work "just the way you want it".Right - now that rant's over, I'll apologise to the others in here, andespecially to Jacob Bondre - this isn't directed to you in particular, youjust happened to be the person I replied to when composing this message. Nooffence intended to yourself.PEOPLE WHO WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE -READ THE INSTRUCTIONS AT THE TOP OF THIS MESSAGE AND FOLLOW THEM.SENDING 'UNSUBSCRIBE', EVEN WHEN YOU MANAGE TO SPELL IT CORRECTLY, TO[EMAIL PROTECTED] WILL NOT WORK!GET THAT?IT WON'T WORK. WORK IT WILL NOT. IT WILL HAVE NO EFFECT. NOTHING WILLHAPPEN. YOU WILL NOT BE UNSUBSCRIBED.UNDERSTAND?YOU NEED TO SEND A MESSAGE TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] WITH A SUBJECT OFUNSUBSCRIBE.A SUBJECT OF "UNSUBSCRIBE"NOT A SUBJECT OF "UNSUSCRIBE", 3 COPIES OF "UNSUBSCRIBE" IN THE TEXT PARTOF THE EMAIL OR ANY OTHER VARIATION IN SPELLING, POSITION, FONT,LANGUAGE,TYPEFACE OR ANY OTHER COMBINATION YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME UPWITH.IF YOU STILL CAN'T WORK IT OUT, YOU REALLY ARE ON THE WRONG MAILING-LISTAREN'T YOU..Now, have we all got that clear?Normal service will be resumed now..if you can call it normal! :)Steve FlynnIBM MVS Operations AnalystJacob Bondre [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 15/02/2000 10:07:02Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: (bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM)Subject: [newbie] UnsubscribeUnsubscribeUnsubscribeUnsubscribe