Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Friday 03 October 2003 04:24 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Why bother? Just filter. Never try to teach a pig to dance. You waste your time and annoy the pig. Stephen, you've missed too many county fairs... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
On Thursday 25 September 2003 10:28 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Y'gotta take the test, first. Then you have to be initiated. Then you take another test. Then they take yer picture, write up a folio on ya, take another test, and then WHAM, you can post. This is how Linux would be if the govmint got involved. Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] somehow someway somewhere...
On Tuesday 23 September 2003 01:42 pm, Charlie M. wrote: It was easy enough to get into this relationship, but now that the newness has warn off, the love is starting to fade. I need more. I need to find my own space. It's not you; it's me. Really. What ever happened to commitment? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Just bragging.
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 02:48 pm, rikona wrote: Hmmm... I seem to have gotten three of these emails from you. Did you send one for each of the above? :-))) rec'd 3 also. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alarm
On Thursday 04 September 2003 11:59 am, Aron Smith wrote: SK I managed once to un-install wife but ended up getting another SK installation less than ten years later. My un-install has been going on for eight years. I'm hoping the current Court of Appeals case will F-Disk the hard drive to clean it! :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT somewhat (sorry), Peanut linux, anyone here used it?
On Thursday 04 September 2003 07:23 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: Knoppix is too bloated for my little p2 233. Mandrake works great on a 1998 Cyrix 233, 128meg ram, 4gig HD Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alarm
My (very ex-) husbands never had problems with turning me OFF - quite the opposite, in fact... ;-) Were you forced to marry them at gunpoint? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alarm
On Thursday 04 September 2003 02:19 pm, HaywireMac wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:03:52 -0500 Cornerstone Community Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Were you forced to marry them at gunpoint? Oh, here we go, now the jokes over, I'm outta here! Being an international list, there may be a forced marriage country involved... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Beware!! - Re: [newbie] Re: Re: My details
On Thursday 04 September 2003 03:07 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: At least that b sms message doesn't carry the virus g Its kind of humorous that with all the Chip head brain power on this list we can not figure out how to stop the sms message!:) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SMC Gigabit NIC
Mandrake Control Center usually does it automatically, hardrake will find it when you boot the first time with the NIC. On Tuesday 02 September 2003 07:51 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently working on installing Mandrake 9.1 and need a step by step setup instruction for installing my SMC Gigabit NIC it's a 9452TX, any help will be appreciated. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Odd email in list
On Monday 25 August 2003 08:05 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: How do you get the caps off of the bottles? -- cmg Thought you did not like OT discussions on Newbie list. Or only discussion you disagree with? Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Transferring songs from cassette
On Sunday 24 August 2003 11:48 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Try the regular line out on the Cassette player instead of mic. You will have to get a special chord from someplace like radio shack, it has two rca audio plugs into one mic jack. This gives you preamp and filter so you should have a much better audio signal. HTH Cool. Is there a way to do this to albums also? I could put the cassette deck on record and run the RCA plugs from tape deck monitor to the line-in on the sound card, just wonder if there is a better way... :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] More Stupid Questions(XMMS)
How has Streamripper worked for you? buggy? Does it do both windoz and realplayer type streams? Personally, I would recommend Streamripper. Its on one of your Mandrake CDs. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem
I live in the boon docks. Frequent power loss, generally only a fraction of a second to 5 seconds at best. UPS flawless for about 3 years now APS brand, the low power one, only about $70.00 Has handled two boxes, one monitor. On Monday 11 August 2003 05:21 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 11 August 2003 12:51 pm, João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote: I got this twice, as I was using linux and got a blackout. When I turned on the system again, it gave me this message, then I wanted to repair the errors. When the boot was complete, I got many erros. One of them, i couldnt start X. Some /usr/bin commands where lost, and some other files where lost too. Then, without knowledge enough to repair file to file, and without time to do so, I reinstalled my mdk system. Finished the install, another blackout, and the same problem. Reinstall again. So, should I use another FS? Is there any FS better in all ways (performance, confiability)? Thanks - Original Message - From: Dale Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 6:40 PM Subject: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem Hi, I was hoping that someone could help me with this question. I have a redhat box as a fileserver I was just wondering something about the EXT3 filesystem (or maybe them all in general). After a power outage, the machine started up with the following error ### Start Message ### Your filesystem appears to be shutdown uncleanly Press Y within 4 seconds to force file system integrity check #So I press 'y' /dev/hda5: /lost+found not found. CREATED /dev/hda5: Optimizind Directories: 16350 48487 63105 79467 94847 111234 126216 126813 141986 (continues) /dev/hda5: * REBOOT LINUX * /dev/hda5: 63815/52416 files (0.3% non contiguous), 158268/504031 blocks Failed to check filesystem. Do you want to repair the errors? (Y/N) (beware you can lose data) ### END Message ### When I select yes, I was just wondering how after it does the checks and fixes the errors I can see what its done. If a file got corrupted during the shutdown and it wasn't able to be repaired (through the journal, etc...) how would I know what files were affected so I could manually remove/fix them so that I dont have corrupted files lying around? Is there a log of some sort ? Thank you in advance for your help. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - -- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Same here, so last time I loaded with reiserFS and have had no problem since. That was a couple of months ago. We have had at least two outages since then. I get them so fast that the ups doesn't have time to kick in but the computer reboots. It is just a flash with the sound of the Ventilation motor kicking and no real timespan. My ups is supposed to be 3ns but I don't have any idea if that is accurate. Sometimes when it goes off and stays off for several minutes I have time to halt and ups works as promised. Digression, back to the subject, reiserFS does not seem to loose any files under the described conditions. HTH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem
A UPS will supply electricity even if the city power goes off, for several minutes, enough to do a proper shut down... On Monday 11 August 2003 06:26 pm, João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote: Disconsider my previus email please. But I'll surelly buy a UPS to me, but what if my system locks, forcing me to make a force reboot or power down? I think the same problem should happen, and there goes my files! :P From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Ext 3 Filesystem Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:52:41 +0200 Hi João, If you experience power outs more often, I think that getting a UPS is better than changing FS. I use EXT3 also, which has so far not failed me. I am satisfied with it. Paul On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 19:51, João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote: I got this twice, as I was using linux and got a blackout. When I turned on the system again, it gave me this message, then I wanted to repair the errors. When the boot was complete, I got many erros. One of them, i couldnt start X. Some /usr/bin commands where lost, and some other files where lost too. Then, without knowledge enough to repair file to file, and without time to do so, I reinstalled my mdk system. Finished the install, another blackout, and the same problem. Reinstall again. So, should I use another FS? Is there any FS better in all ways (performance, confiability)? -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? http://www.nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Ximian Evolution Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail do Brasil. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kmail send fails
KDE may have a bug. I sometimes fail in sending, and it ends up in the out-box. I have to get it and choose re-send, sometimes several times before it will send. Only happens every couple of weeks. I think I'm going to try the earlier suggestion to default to send later, and enable interval mail checking with a default to send que messages... logged on. And it will not send queued messages unless I log off and restart. Anyone know of a way to get the queued messages to send without logging out restarting KDE or the computer? Not a biggie, but a pain none the less. Mayhap a quirk of my ISP? Perhaps your ISP requires authentication. If this is the case, do you have your login and password set in the smtp server settings in kmail? Or maybe I've missed the point. The latter is highly likely... ;) Sharrea Well, what is happening is, when I login to Kmail normally and download Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
The crooked lawyers and judges i bust have been trying for years to put me out to pasture...I'm not going anywhere :) Please re-read my posts instead of whining about what I've already explained to you! On Tuesday 29 July 2003 08:24 am, Burrows, Scott wrote: Is this list moderated? Time to put Farm Boy out to pasture. :) Listen, I love tomatoes as much as the next guy but go hug a tree on your own time cuz we're here to talk about Linux. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] GMO foods
In general, we know far too little about them. (i'm far from an expert on this topic)(but DO farm organically) I do know they are not allowed on certified organic farms in the US. They are approved in the U.S. by the FDA (food drug admin.). BUT... they also approve of certain level of pesticides in people, and that is mostly guess work and a BIG gamble...There is too much we do not know. WE CAN work on drought resistant varieties thru more traditional methods of of plant breeding... In my personal belief, I'm much more inclined to argue for use of NON hybrid's, chiefly because one can use the seeds harvested to plant next years crop...IMO a great help for poor countries as they do not have to import expensive hybrids. In the circles I travel in, there is a growing movement to heirloom varities. This year I'm growing a heirloom tomato, called stripey...it is yellow with stripes, as supposed to be of SUPERIOR taste...(I'll let you know in a couple of weeks:) Of course, taste will VARY GREATLY, depending on the soil and climate in a given year. Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake Linux? This is a linux list. 1. With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error to this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error. 2. Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain: The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, but we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cannot log in as root in 9.1
Generally, DO NOT log in as root. For admin tasks, go to a root terminal. When you run Mandrake Control Center or other GUI admin type functions you will be prompted for root password. On Monday 28 July 2003 11:12 am, fifner the dragon wrote: Hi all, I have my mandrake 9.1 setup to automaticly log user in at startup. When I logout user I get a small box giving me three alternatives: halt, reboot and a user icon. I might be blind or stupid or both, but I cannot find a way to log in as root. How do I login as root? Thanks in advance, Fifner Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
1. Original post was in error (please re-read earlier post)...As I said THEN, it was meant for the OT list, where we have an on-going discussion on this topic. 2. This list has ALWAYS had fun minor diversions...Even BEFORE the OT list. Some of the minor diversions have been quite long winded (and heated!) You just missed a long discussion about this. 99% + of bytes are direct Linux I think you can deal with the 1% :) Other lists ALSO have OT off shoots at times. Life is not one dimentional...If you can not handle this, filter, or choose ignore thread in your mail reader! If you stick around, you will find lots of fun and creative thank you emails and generally fun comments, articles, web sites, recreational tidbits, etc. in the context of each person contributing to the list. On Monday 28 July 2003 02:08 pm, Burrows, Scott wrote: The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, but we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list Are you kidding? You dont think your original post was not a long-winded diatribe about certain vegtables you appear to have problems with? I'm just saying you should take that stuff to the tomatoe list and free this list for Linux. :) -Original Message- From: Cornerstone Community Farm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake Linux? This is a linux list. 1. With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error to this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error. 2. Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain: The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, but we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
** See what happens when ya don't share them homgrown tomatoes, he gets testy ;-)) Fresh cooked meal of Wisconsin raised organic veggies and cheese to any list member who stops by for a visit :) Zucchini, sweet peppers, onions, mushrooms, tomatoes sauteed in olive oil with melted cheese on top! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... Now Really OT!!!
Thanks for the common sense Todd, There are probably few lists that do not delve into the OT arena. (With exceptions for the rare dead, boring, dull lists) On Thursday 24 July 2003 12:22 pm, Todd Slater wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:03:24 -0500 Curt Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Jul 2003 06:27:47 -0400 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This list (and life in general) are not for you if you can not make brief excusions into philosophy (real life). Keith (living a joy filled life) :) Sorry Keith, but it is not for you, nor me to decide what goes, or does not go on this list. The owners of the servers supporting this list, I am pretty damn sure, have the say. It is my understanding that they set up this list to be a place where people just getting into the linux-mandrake experience can gather and discuss those thing pertaining to Linux-Mandrake. and while there is great scope covered under that umbrella, most of the thread, beginning with Anne's remarks (imho) do not belong on the newbie list. They would be just great on the OT list tho. Not to mention the fact that this server space costs the company hosting it money. Considering Mandrake's precarious financial condition, I believe it's unconcsionable to waste it. You may consider this post as a waste but in reality, it *is* Mandrake related and my point is a fact everyone should consider before posting here. Why is it that the only time anybody gets their panties in a bunch is when the talk turns political and controversial? There's a lot of chatter on this list, much of which has nothing to do with Mandrake in particular or even Linux. I've been skipping over messages about Aussies and vegetables and what not (no offense!) today. It seems that if we're going to say no OT then why not these tirades about the chit-chat? Is somebody volunteering to be the moderator? No, I think it's fine the way it is. I--and I'm sure most of you--are fully capable of scanning an email and hitting the delete button if it's something I don't care to read. (A much more valid argument, I think, is consideration for those who pay out the a$$ for their Internet connection.) Flame and filter away ;) Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... Now Really OT!!!
Thanks for the common sense Todd, There are probably few lists that do not delve into the OT arena. (With exceptions for the rare dead, boring, dull lists) On Thursday 24 July 2003 12:22 pm, Todd Slater wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:03:24 -0500 Curt Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Jul 2003 06:27:47 -0400 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This list (and life in general) are not for you if you can not make brief excusions into philosophy (real life). Keith (living a joy filled life) :) Sorry Keith, but it is not for you, nor me to decide what goes, or does not go on this list. The owners of the servers supporting this list, I am pretty damn sure, have the say. It is my understanding that they set up this list to be a place where people just getting into the linux-mandrake experience can gather and discuss those thing pertaining to Linux-Mandrake. and while there is great scope covered under that umbrella, most of the thread, beginning with Anne's remarks (imho) do not belong on the newbie list. They would be just great on the OT list tho. Not to mention the fact that this server space costs the company hosting it money. Considering Mandrake's precarious financial condition, I believe it's unconcsionable to waste it. You may consider this post as a waste but in reality, it *is* Mandrake related and my point is a fact everyone should consider before posting here. Why is it that the only time anybody gets their panties in a bunch is when the talk turns political and controversial? There's a lot of chatter on this list, much of which has nothing to do with Mandrake in particular or even Linux. I've been skipping over messages about Aussies and vegetables and what not (no offense!) today. It seems that if we're going to say no OT then why not these tirades about the chit-chat? Is somebody volunteering to be the moderator? No, I think it's fine the way it is. I--and I'm sure most of you--are fully capable of scanning an email and hitting the delete button if it's something I don't care to read. (A much more valid argument, I think, is consideration for those who pay out the a$$ for their Internet connection.) Flame and filter away ;) Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... Now Really OT!!!
Anders, I AGREE! By the way, could you post your address and leave your house keys under the front door mat to make my borrowing easier? On Wednesday 23 July 2003 09:41 am, Anders Lind wrote: When humanity is smart enough to live by the initial 10 rules laid down, and do so without deviation, revision or amendment - and live by those same rules honourably and inherently, there will no longer be a need for politicians, religious leaders or any such nonsense. But those initial 10 rules were constructed by religious and political hustlers, made up to control people Listen to George Carlin's standup number on the ten commandments /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... Now Really OT!!!
Because trying to live life believing and what we believe, do, etc. can be put in a box and some how separated from everything else is part of the reason the world is in such a mess. It is IMPOSSIBLE to completely isolate ethics from business (or ANY aspect of life). Situational ethics, or if it feels good, do it, has the effect of destroying life, and part of life is Linux (and the developement, learning curve thereof), relationships, countries, etc. This list (and life in general) are not for you if you can not make brief excusions into philosophy (real life). Keith (living a joy filled life) :) On Wednesday 23 July 2003 09:00 am, Curt Tresenriter wrote: What does this have to do with MS or Linux for that matter? Don't know why this rubs me the wrong way but Mark has generously provided server space for REALLY OTs; so why do so many insist on wasting newbie server space and bandwidth of those who have no interest in off topic discussions? I would think that the least that could be done is to change the subject line to reflect the topic being discussed so at least I could avoid everyone's opinions on subjects which have no interest for me. Am I alone on this? Sorry to blow up like that. On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 08:39, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 18:36, Anne Wilson wrote: I can well believe it. I don't think anyone has come up with a perfect system. My own solution is to put all politicians in a room and shoot the lot, but then we'd probably get another crop coming up like weeds g Anne When humanity is smart enough to live by the initial 10 rules laid down, and do so without deviation, revision or amendment - and live by those same rules honourably and inherently, there will no longer be a need for politicians, religious leaders or any such nonsense. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Beware the PD virus
Just do not read your email as root user! It helps to shut off your brain, morals, and conscience when booting also:) Actually, divorcing meaning from anything, including Linux, lead to a boring, meaningless life On Wednesday 23 July 2003 10:51 am, rikona wrote: Unfortunately, it is a common virus on Internet email lists. Yes Rikona, you are right! see reasoning above:) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Beware the PD virus
Just do not read your email as root user! It helps to shut off your brain, morals, and conscience when booting also:) Actually, divorcing meaning from anything, including Linux, lead to a boring, meaningless life On Wednesday 23 July 2003 10:51 am, rikona wrote: Unfortunately, it is a common virus on Internet email lists. Yes Rikona, you are right! see reasoning above:) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... Now Really OT!!!
Carroll, You MISSED the point! The point is in the course of REAL life, with real people (versus robots or machines), issues involving philosophy and other non-list discussions come up. (boats, beer, politics, you name it) It seems odd to me that you could miss such an obvious point, as just the fact that OT topics come up on a newbie list shows we are dealing with real people, not robots:) Keith On Wednesday 23 July 2003 08:02 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Wednesday 23 July 2003 11:23 am, Cornerstone Community Farm wrote: snip This list (and life in general) are not for you if you can not make brief excusions into philosophy (real life). Keith (living a joy filled life) :) Whoa, tiger. You're way off base. Who chose you to define the purpose of the list? Trust me, it is not for the purpose of discussing philosophy, religion, politics, raising organic (or orgasmic) vegtables, fishing, quilting, cabinet making, or ballet. There are already more than enough web resources for all that jazz, and Mandrake is not about to spend any of its scarce frances duplicating them. This list is solely a means for newbies, not-so-newbies, old hands and damn smart cookies to resolve problems and exchange news related to Mandrake Linux. Incidental comments on other topics are tolerated, but not encouraged. If you want to enrich your joy filled life by exchanging views on various OT topics, join one of the OT lists. That's why they exist. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
