Re: [newbie] SHould I get SuSe
HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:14:44 -0800 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Has anyone considered Gentoo? Their Portage updating system sounds awesome. Here's some info: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml Ya, if you enjoy a 3 day install process so you get 5 more FPS in Quake... ;-) Yea, and stupid things like a kernel and apps compiled specifically to your hardware for maximum efficiency. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
Richard Urwin wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 3:22 pm, Aron Smith wrote: ** The one thing that Programmers are NOT good at is Documentation. That's why Tech Writers exist (unfortunately the good ones find out that writing Science Fiction pays better :-( ). As a programmer: Documenting a program is a good and worthwhile activity; like going to the dentist. However documentation is like sex; when it's good it's wonderful, and when it's bad it's still better than nothing. man pages are not meant to be a hand holding how-to document (though recently, some apps are using them as such). If you want to know how to use a command/app, read a how-to, do a google from a tutorial, don't read the man page. man pages are meant to refresh you memory about a command's function and it's options. -- David Filion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 7:37 pm, David Filion wrote: Richard Urwin wrote: On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 3:22 pm, Aron Smith wrote: ** The one thing that Programmers are NOT good at is Documentation. That's why Tech Writers exist (unfortunately the good ones find out that writing Science Fiction pays better :-( ). As a programmer: Documenting a program is a good and worthwhile activity; like going to the dentist. However documentation is like sex; when it's good it's wonderful, and when it's bad it's still better than nothing. man pages are not meant to be a hand holding how-to document (though recently, some apps are using them as such). If you want to know how to use a command/app, read a how-to, do a google from a tutorial, don't read the man page. man pages are meant to refresh you memory about a command's function and it's options. which is where they are great. So please, don't tell newbies that they are the first port of call. Anne Amen to that. -- David Filion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Intel |Unveils
John Richard Smith wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 20:10, John Richard Smith wrote: Intel Unveils low-cost Itanium 2 , 64 bit microprocessor == Is linux/Mandrake into 64 bit architecture , do you know ? , and if so which chips are currently best supported ? John I really don't understand all of this crap. I like the KISS principle; KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID Why bother with 64 bits of anything if a good, hearty 8 will do? It's all marketing. All this 64bit stuff and all. Too much bother. Sounds like something JoeHill would dream up; Hey! I smoked something like really honkers and I figured out how to play solitare with 512k encryption running on a rendering farm of 1024 Itanium based PC's with 1gb of RAM per each CPU - it's like, really cool man...Freecell flies... Bah, humbug. I'd even settle for 4-bit... stephen kuhn - owner I take it then your very fond of 64 bit architecture. But is Linux into it ? John Yes. Most big ass systems are 64 bit. That way they can get a larger memory space (an other benefits) for specialized apps with needs. I don't think you'll be seeing too many 64bit DNS servers but you will/do see them in the scientific community. They're also popular in the DB world. -- David Filion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus - let's go over this again, shall we?u
What's the IP got to do with the validation? If the IP was used for validation then users with DHCP accounts would not be able to join the list because there is no guarantee the user's IP would remain the same between postings. Frankie wrote: My question is how in gods name was sobigs smtp engine able to send mail to the list? I ask because if it doesn't resolve the IP, mandrakes sympa won't accept the post.. I am guessing that sobig uses the SMTP server of the infected lookout rgds Franki Mandrake Gamers mailing list: htmlfixit.com/mailman/listinfo/mandrake-games HTML Perl PHP n stuff.. htmlfixit.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David E. Fox Sent: Monday, 8 September 2003 12:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Virus - let's go over this again, shall we?u But since we're on the subject of viruses, and since I've been way to busy to read every single last post on this subject, I'd like to ask one thing. Has anyone told the list that an infected email received on this list may not have come from the person named? These types of viruses will (if activated on a Well yep. That's a given. FWIW 2 SoBig's have just come through on newbie. Spamassassin is clever enough now to automatically put them in my caughtspam file - but I've seen no less than seven of these come through over the past few days. One of the last two had a return address of juno.com. They're all about the same simes - some 1700 lines. So, if I'm in Stephen or Frankie's address books, I'm safe (because they use Linux, and NOT Outlook, or Outlook Express! Well, that's the way these things propagate. I don't use address books at home. I just remember the address of whom I'm sending :). Or maybe kmail remembers it for me, since I can type the first few letters of the email address and it supplies the rest. People using Outhouse tend to keep a lot of email addresses in the contacts folders - especially if they're at work. Those lists do come in handy, and keeping all the data for your biz partners is certainly useful -- but that is how these things spread. The worm contacts every email address in the contact list, then goes to the other pc, where it contacts everyone in that list, and so on. And eventually it hit someone using Outhouse that had [EMAIL PROTECTED] mandrake.com in the list. So two morals -- don't use Outhouse, and don't put mailing list email addresses in your contacts. Needless to say, John's day's are numbered at this point, and I wouldn't want to be in his shoes when Guido (also not his real Shit, that's what the Windows users are doing now. Paying for protection. Guido == McAfee in this instance. Lanman David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- David Filion V.P. Technology Maximum Lans Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (514) 489-7825 6915 Fielding Ave. Suite # 228 Montreal, Quebec, H4V 1P4 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus - let's go over this again, shall we?u
Frankie wrote: FRANKI: No, users with DHCP usually have their ISP's mail server send the actual mail, Correct. those that don't need to have a dynamic DNS setup that changes each time they get a new IP address.. If you setup postfix on a dynamic IP machine and set it up to mail directly to the sympa servers instead of using a relay SMTP server, sympa will not accept the mail because the IP does't resolve back to the Domain name.. Now I understand what you ment. -- David Filion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus - let's go over this again, shall we?u
rikona wrote: Hello David, Sunday, September 7, 2003, 9:51:37 AM, you wrote: DEF So two morals -- don't use Outhouse, and don't put mailing list DEF email addresses in your contacts. If you don't use OE, then it might be OK to use a contact list. For example, TheBat email client uses its own list, in a different format, and in a different place - TheBat does NOT use any Win components. A virus looking for the Win address book will find it in the usual place, but it has nothing in it. :-) Make sure NO Win components get used, and you'll be much better off. I'll agree that your safer off. There are still two dangers though: 1) That the virus writer included the ability to read multiple forms of address books. 2) The person that receives the email is lacking some form of gelatinous mass between their ears and runs the infected attachment. In most cases your right, the chance of option number 1 is slight. Option number 2 on the other hand, seems to be more common. LOL. Personally, I migrated all my contacts to LDAP and use Thunderbird. No address book and no OE, no problems. -- David Filion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Viruses..........
Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 6, 2003 07:32 pm, Eric S. Dye wrote: Dear List, I received two viruses (both sobig) from the newbie list..from HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] and HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] I would suggest getting a good antivirus program. I am using a combination of Norton, Trend Micro, AVG and Benign. AVG can be gotten for free, though I use the registered version. Benign is a wonderful program that just came out that neutralizes any suspicious mail. It can be secured from HYPERLINK http://www.firetrust.comwww.firetrust.com. There is a 15 day trial on it and then you have to buy the program. McAfee has a good program. I am using XP at the moment, but also have Lindows installed. I have the Mandrake 9.0 as well, but it is not installed at the moment. Having gotten a number of viruses from the Newbie list, I am surprised because I thought Linux was pretty much impervious to viruses. I don't know which of the above programs can be used with Linux. Eric S. Dye, HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] I seriously doubt you got the virus (either of them) from the list. What you got was from an infected Outlook Express 6. similar to what you are using. Version and software I mean, not the infected part. I have no idea whether yours has a problem. The list itself is a sympa server that doesn't know s**t from shinola about the troubles with Microsoft Viral Transport System. The people that help one another and any strays that show up to ask questions are highly unlikely to send you any infected messages. You can figure out where the mail really came from by checking the headers even in Outhouse Infect. Look under the View button for Full Headers or similar. Have fun Eric. Just don't preach anti-virus software to GNU/Linux users from a Windows computer; OK? Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-5mdk 19:37:49 up 10:20, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.38, 0.33 Only someone with nothing to be sorry for smiles back at the rear of an elephant. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Wo2pG11CaRuZZSIRAt+8AJ95/K+TZLIY69HR6mPlh5VqhSNgQACfSBdc VMw9ZUFlWV7Biu0oNW9OYj0= =kAK3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I believe what he means is at least two messages were posted to the list that contained the sobig virus. I've counted at least two tonight. -- David Filion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3 simple questions
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 02:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a PII 366 Mhz Fujitsu Lifebook L-470 with 192M RAM and a 30G Hitachi harddrive, Neomagic X128 video, ESS soundcard, and Mandrake 9.1 (dual booting w/W2K Server): There is a file called .desktop in your ~/home/yournamehere directory - open it with a texted editor - it will say DESKTOP=GNOME - change it to DESKTOP=KDE Reboot. She'll be right. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- QOTD: I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Why reboot? Logging out and back in should be enough. In runleve 5 you may have to restart X (but I doubt it). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How can I evaluate how fast a fast connection is ?
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Sunday 31 August 2003 01:29 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote: I've got a ADSL connection now and I'd like to know if there is an app that would show me how fast the connection is. I'm running 9.1. Much obliged. Go to http://dslreports.com Under Tools run the Speed tests. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Just remember, most ISPs do not guarantee your connection speed outside of their network. -- David Filion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] browsing while downloading
Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 30 Aug 2003 3:28 pm, Anarky wrote: I hear of this program 'wondermaker' ... which would enable one to interectivelly browse the web stuff .. while still downloading at max speed possible (eg. the download speed would lower to leave space for browsing when one needed it) ... do you know any other such tools? I've installed this one and ... well, seems I don't know what to do ... do you by any chance know of any gui tools with which one could graphically interactivelly lower the speed of ongoing downloads to make room for some browsing? The shorewall firewall can be configured with the 'Wonder Shaper' as described here http://www.shorewall.net/traffic_shaping.htm However this not the sort of project for a newbie with a few weeks experience. A simpler form if prioritising services can be made by changing the priorities in /etc/shorewall/tos You could make ftp a lower Type of Service there. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com That still doesn't guarantee anything. Not all servers/routers recognize TOS. -- David Filion V.P. Technology Maximum Lans Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (514) 489-7825 6915 Fielding Ave. Suite # 228 Montreal, Quebec, H4V 1P4 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ctrl+s under X not always working...
Under X, my control+key combinations are not being recognized by all the X apps. Some apps, like nedit, return the actual control code (such as dc) instead. ie. ctrl+s should save the file, but I get the control code dc3 being inserted into the file instead. Keyboard: MS natual elite. Mandrake control center: keyboard: US KDE control center: keyboard model: MS natural KDE control center: primary layout: US English Any clues? _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
