Re: [newbie] ATA drives in A7N8X deluxe with mdk 9.1
L.V.Gandhi wrote: I have some more questions on this A7N8X deluxe MB. I get this from dmesg 1)spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7 most probably for parallel port. I couldn't get parport in lsmod. What to do? 2)my hdds has been recognised as ATA 100 ie udma 5 drives with my old MB intel815 chipset. Even with this MB, knoppix shows as udma5. What is stopping in mdk 9.1 from showing them as udma 5. in dmesg, I get line as ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx I have put in lilo.conf, append as below append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi idebus=100 acpi=off quiet did /sbin/lilo -v. Still I get udma 2 only. What to do? I found that I had to install the Nvidia chipset driver - Linux nForce Driver Version: 1.0-0261 to get higher than udma2 for my Maxtor ATA133 hard drive HTH Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.22-10.tmb.4 KDE 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ATA drives in A7N8X deluxe with mdk 9.1
L.V.Gandhi wrote: I have provisions for 2 SATA drives. Even BIOS checks for that while POST. But mdk 9.1 while booting checks for hde and hdf for quit considerable time. with fb mode it looks as if it hangs. This happens now after reinstallation of mdk9.1 yesterday. Before that it didn't happen like that. I would like to avoid that. Any solution is appreciated. I have the same motherboard and as I don't have any SATA drrives I was able to get around the consderable boot time by changing the jumper pin on the motherboard to disable the SATA controller. Boot up time has been reduced significantly. HTH Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.22-10 KDE 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nvidia Tweak Utility
Richard Hackwith wrote: I remember seeing something once about a utility program for adjusting nvidia cards, but can't remember the name. Can anyone remember, and know where to find it? yanc Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.22-10 KDE 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trolltech (was opera)
Bryan Phinney wrote: This kind of knee-jerk reaction can do irreparable harm to members of the open-source community and if you want to convince developers, businesses, etc. that open source is a bad investment and will cause them greater harm than sticking with the traditional proprietary model, I can't think of a better way to demonstrate it than to start some knee-jerk reactions to rumors about ownership. At the end of the day, we need to judge a company and organization based upon its actions, and spreading rumors, calling for negative actions is simply playing right into the FUD covered hands of those who would like nothing better than to see the open source community cannibalize itself. SCO is a very poor threat to Linux currently, but our own community is a much greater one due to this type of reaction. snip Well said, I agree wholeheartedly. I think that we as a community need to consider the overall scenario and not get over-emotional or over-react. The facts speak for themselves - no need to cut off your arm just because you injure your finger. Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.22-0.5.2tmb Kde 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lost New Mozilla
snip Margot wrote: I finally took the plunge this morning and upgraded from the Mozilla 1.1 that came with my Mandrake 9.0 to the Mozilla 1.4. I downloaded it, unzipped it, untarred it and installed it following the instructions it came with - and now I can't find it! For the 1.1, I had some desktop icons that I'd dragged from the K menu. The icons are still on the desktop, and still bring up 1.1. The K menu still brings up 1.1. The only way I can access 1.4 is by going to a Konsole, doing cd /usr/local/mozilla, then doing ./mozilla. How do I get the new version on to the K menu? Margot MCC - System - Menudrake - system menu configure -Networking - either mail, chat, news , www, whaterver and change the path to the app. snip Whenever I install a new version of mozilla I creat a link to the app on the desktop. Then when everything is ok and running smoothly I create a symlink in /usr/bin to the executable in /usr/local/mozilla(-version) that way the K menu entry will work. HTH Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.22-0.5.2tmb Kde 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] nvidia chipset in ASUS A7N8X deluxe motherboard- soundnvidia.o
Frans Ketelaars wrote: snip On Monday 25 August 2003 04:04, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I have the above motherboard. mdk stock kernel drivers were working ok. However I installed NVIDIA_nforce-1.0-0261.mdk91up_2.4.21_0.13.athlon.rpm obtained from nvidia site. The kernel says: Loading sound module (i810_audio) succeeded. I suggest changing i810_audio to nvaudio. snip I have the same motherboard and changing i810_audio to nvaudio worked just great HTH Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.22-0.5.2tmb Kde 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying
Todd Slater wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:35:34PM -0400, Todd Slater wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:26:17PM -0500, Dennis Myers wrote: horse to water... Anyone seen any other indications that somebody thinks one of the virus or worms was getting into linux? Wasn't there a worm recently that exploited mySQL? Todd This is what I was thinking of: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.slapper.worm.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com wot only 3,500+ *nix boxes out of 20+ million! how many million win$ux boxes are affected by the myriad of nasties daily encountered when you run the demon OS? Peleeease! I am constantly asked to help people rid their Redmond based evil-OS systems of trojans/worms/virii and spyware. I, like many other responsible nix users, run a firewall, update regularly to prevent intrusions and maintain the security of my *nix boxes and run a virus checker to make sure I don't pass on any win$ux nasties to other win$ux users I correspond with. I have been running *nix systems for 2 years now and never have I been unable to use my systems because of trojans/worms/virii and spyware problems. My house recently became an MS OS free site with 3 boxes running Mdk9.1 and 1 box running MDK9.2 cooker. Shite!! that means I owe SCO heaps of pesos! LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH (which they can claim from my estate - behind all of my other creditors). In the last week there are now 3 more *nix converts in my circle of aquaintences who are amazed that they no longer have continual problems with intrusions to their boxes. - vive la penguinistas!! Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.22-0.5.2tmb Kde 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Twinview and output to TV
HaywireMac wrote: Hey y'all, I used yanc to configure X to enable output to TV as secondary device, but now how do I actually get movies to play out to the TV, say through mplayer? snip I have a GF4Ti4600 and have managed to get xine to output to My Samsung TV via the svideo connection. I haven't had time to play with the settings any further but if you like I can send you a copy of the XF86Config-4 file that allows me to watch DVDs from my mdk box on the widescreen tv. May need a little work but I'm enjoying watching my dvd collection thru nix too much to play with the settings any more at the moment. Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.21-0.25 Kde 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CUPS and OOo
Miark wrote: How do I get CUPS to work with OOo? Miark I set the OOo print command to kprinter and let KDE print manager handle things. works very well for me with a Kyocera-Mita FS1000 and an Epson Stylus Photo 830. HTH Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.21-0.25 Kde 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CUPS and OOo
Miark wrote: And how did you set it? spadmin is the only tool I see, and it doesn't look like it can do this. I set the OOo print command to kprinter and let KDE print manager handle things. works very well for me with a Kyocera-Mita FS1000 and an Epson Stylus Photo 830. I used spadmin to create a new printer and entered kprinter as the print command, then set the new printer as default. Works like a charm in OO-1.03 and OO- 1.1 rc2. Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.21-0.25 Kde 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] You guys all owe SCO $1399 for your Mandrake
The scumbags at SCO will need more than that by the time IBM finishes with them... IBM have filed a counter suit with an interesting twist thrown in by Novell - http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5060965.html Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.21-0.25 Kde 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Intro
Aron Smith wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 04:50 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 09:20, Aron Smith wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 03:34 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 09:58, Eric Huff wrote: BTW a shrimp on the barbie --why would you put shellfish on a doll ; Shrimp is stephen's pet name for ken. BTW, in relearning English - we don't say shrimp here - it's prawns Went to a seafood resturant in Cupertino they had Tiger Prawns they brought me 4 shrimp I thought it was the appitizer It was the prawns (so-called) What y'all need to see are Balmain Bugs; makes ya rethink eating shellfish. We do have some prawns here that are the size of bloody small lobsters...fantastic eating... **Butterfly Cook under Broiler with garlic and butter sauce --I'll take 2 Cooked in a light beer batter and served with a chilli/plum sauce! -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.2 (Cooker) kernel 2.4.21-0.25 Kde 3.1.3 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Audigy2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended A4 Scanners for MDK91?
Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 21:23, John Richard Smith wrote: snip To that end my epson perfection 2400 phot is excellent. John My Epson Perfection 1260 was detected by mdk9.1 install and has worked without a single problem. When I used to run winblow$ I had problems with the install and configuration of the scanning software but NOT with mdk. I also have an Epson Stylus Photo830 (usb), and Kyocra FS1000+(lp0) printer(s) with which I have not had a single problem. Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.22 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4
Mike Larson wrote: snip Anyone know of a Mandrake RPM for Java 1.4.2 (I think that is the version needed for Moz 1.4)? Mike snip I've downloaded and installed sun's java 1.4.2 and it works great with the mozilla-1.4 tarball install. Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.18 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Window$ free -follow -up
In my last post I referred to convincing the g/f to abandon window$ in favour of Mandrake 9.1... Just deleted win2K from her machine and now my home is totally free from the o/s from the darkside! WOO HOO! it feels great to a be totally GNU/LINUX - 4 computers and not a copy of window$ anywhere. Ain't it grand... Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.18 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] acroread won't print
Sharrea wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 17:52, Eric Huff wrote: Anyone know why i wouldn't be able to get acroread to print? Other programs print the same files with the same command. /usr/bin/lp, lpr, etc. snip If you use KDE and can print without any problems from kprinter, you can change the print command in acroread to kprinter (without the quotes of course) and see if it will print from there. Also, if you're printing from a machine on a lan, when the kprinter dialog box opens make sure it is connected to the server where it says Connected to: xxx.xxx.x.x. Sharrea Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com My system prints well with the acroeaed printer command set to kprinter Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.18 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual Booting the same OS
John wrote: Snip I'm not really sure , but we have been told here on newbie that once one install of M9.1 is completed on the second more options are available Snip John On one of my systems I have mdk9.1 with kernel 2.4.21-0.18 which I have played around with for a couple of months getting things right. I decided to try dual booting with the same os so that I can optimise my system with what I have learned. (I ended up with a lot of crap from my efforts...as is sometimes the case when learning) Yesterday I took a deep beath and installed a vanilla mdk9.1 on a spare partition and voila when it came to load lilo the option was there to skip the bootloader installation. I installed with the existing /boot partition then edited lilo.conf from my existing 2.4.21-0.18 install to point to the partition containing the new vanilla 2.4.21-0.13 installation - reran lilo as root - rebooted and was able to select from either version of the kernel. The only thing I had to do was reinstall the nvidia drivers for the new kernel and edit the XF86Config-4 accordingly. I did it mainly as an exercise to familiarise myself with the process for the upcoming 9.2 release and now feel confident enough to eventually install mdk9.2 (when released) with mdk9.1 on the same drive in one computer. Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.18 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
Dennis Myers wrote: I have googled and archived the www and not found a decent answer to the message I get on boot since I changed out my CDROM. Message is ; A: drive error F1 to continue . I hit F1 and the system boots up and both hda and hdc are there and both cdrw and cdrom work. I am puzzled about what drive is in error. Any one seen this before? Advice? Guesses for grabs. I had that error come up last week after installing a new CDRW on my A7N8X mobo, turned out I had dislodged the floppy drive cable and when I reconnected it the boot up message disappeared. HTH Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.18 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?
FemmeFatale wrote: snip Copying from any medium to another is faster if they are on different busses.. or IDE connectors. so for me: Primary HDD DVD ROM are on IDE1 ( i don't copy back forth tween those... so no need to split them up) Secondary CD R/W HDD are on IDE2 (I DO Copy from HDD 1 (Primary) to my CD Writer...alot. Splitting them up allows faster transfer of data because they are not waiting for one another on teh same IDE Port/bus. This way they can transfer don't need to wait for one another to finish unloading off the same Bus.) snip Something to consider - and I may be wrong (I often am!) but I was having trouble with the transfer speed on my shiny new ata133 hard drive a while back when it was connected as master, and the dvd as slave, on the primary IDE cable. I can't remember exactly where I read it - as it was some time ago - that if you connect two drives to the same cable then both drives will be limited by the transfer capabilities of the slower drive, eg master=udma5 - slave=udma2 then both drives will behave as though they were udma2. When I put my dvd drive as slave to my cdrw drive master on the second ide channel I got an incredible improvement in transfer rates for my hard disk. This may or may not be relevant but I just thought to comment on this for consideration and/or comment from the more learned folks on the list. I like to learn and appreciate info from others. Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.18 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - no sledge....CD Drive is.....
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philips Model # CDD4801/81 i'm giong to check the list myself to see if it's listed or not, and if someone beats me to it or knows for certain, please let me know. thanks! I had a similar problem when downloading an iso on a friends W98SE machine, the iso for Morphix was saved with an added pdf (?) extension. (eg; Morphid-x.iso.pdf) His new Samsung CDRW/DVD drive was not compatible with NTI CD. The solution was to remove the .pdf extension and make sure the file name was correct and then use Nero to create the bootable CD. For some reason winblows adds strange extensions to d/loads if the extension of the downloaded file is not in the winblows registry as a valid extension. This confused the hell out of my friend but he now knows why some of his downloaded winblow$ files try to open with acrobat. HTH Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.18 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Booting mdk/w98/dos
snip FemmeFatale wrote: IF he wants partition hiding all the fun usefulness of running DOS/Win98/XP/Linux/another Linux Distro all at once, Use XOSL say fuck LILO. Cause frankly, it sucks for this kind of thing. How do I know? There was an article about it in Maximumpc about a guy who runs 32 (!) OSes. He uses XOSL. Nothing else works. So...take his lead. The great thing about GNU/Linux systems is choice... there are many ways to do what you want to do - if it don't break your setup, or how YOU want to do things - then no problems! When you start to mix things up eg; operating systems - multiple versions of different operating systems - with expectations about how things SHOULD be then I certainly don't have any definitive answersHell I'm still a newbie who lurks and LEARNS and posts about something when I know for certain that it works for me and how I want to do it. If the way I have my setup is broke, . then I'll leave it broke 'cause somehow it works for me. Tom, Joe, Stephen (your advice/recommendations are second only to your incredible SOH,) Anne, Femme - with the pink hair... (and all you guys - to numerous to mention individually - who make this list what it is) keep up the great work. When the reference is made to the Mandrake Community, it is people like you who make it so. I have worked for about seven years in my local neighbourhood for a community organisation and we have a saying...If you want a Community, you don't have to give freely to to make your community what you want it to be . I find myself reading articles where now, I feel I know a response may be appropriate and I feeling confident that I can respond without fear of ridicule. That I can post a response that answers a request, or elicits debate is something that makes me feel empowered. I run GNU/Linux by chioce, and Mandrake is my preference and knowing that you guys are using/learning/living and sharing your knowledge/experience here on this list is something I look forward to daily. I'm proud to use Mandrake and thankful to benefit from being a member of this list. A big thankyou to you all Regards Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Booting mdk/w98/dos
Graham Banks wrote: snip FemmeFatale wrote: IF he wants partition hiding all the fun usefulness of running DOS/Win98/XP/Linux/another Linux Distro all at once, Use XOSL say fuck LILO. Cause frankly, it sucks for this kind of thing. How do I know? There was an article about it in Maximumpc about a guy who runs 32 (!) OSes. He uses XOSL. Nothing else works. So...take his lead. The great thing about GNU/Linux systems is choice... there are many ways to do what you want to do - if it don't break your setup, or how YOU want to do things - then no problems! When you start to mix things up eg; operating systems - multiple versions of different operating systems - with expectations about how things SHOULD be then I certainly don't have any definitive answersHell I'm still a newbie who lurks and LEARNS and posts about something when I know for certain that it works for me and how I want to do it. If the way I have my setup is broke, . then I'll leave it broke 'cause somehow it works for me. Tom, Joe, Stephen (your advice/recommendations are second only to your incredible SOH,) Anne, Femme - with the pink hair... (and all you guys - to numerous to mention individually - who make this list what it is) keep up the great work. When the reference is made to the Mandrake Community, it is people like you who make it so. Whoopscorrection - that should be If you want a Community, you have to give freely to to make your community what you want it to be . Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
Stephen Kuhn wrote: SNIP Ok - so now I've installed MDK 9.1rc2 - installation of EVERYTHING (and some) was less than an hour. Even setup my / and other FS's as ReiserFS without a hitch. I have to say that KDE 3.1 is a beaut. MDK 9.1 has quite a bit of polish, quite a bit of performance... BUT, I'm happy it's working like a champ (performance is still mind boggling for me...really - not a joke) SNIP Sorry to hear about your woes Stephen... haven't we all had similar experiences. I'm currently battling with setting up the firewall now that my home network is up and running - had it nearly right (almost) .. but that's half the fun of it. It's been a lot easier for me with the things I've learned from the advice given by yourself and others on this list. Big thankyou to you all. As soon as 9.1 final is out I'll get the disks off to you so you can revel in your new found performance gain keep up the good work Graham Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com