Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.0 install hangs after IDE detection

2001-07-26 Thread Kevin R. Bulgrien


I have remade the boot floppy from the CD and from downloaded
files from the linux-mandrake site.

The behavior does not change.

At 09:34 PM 7/24/01, you wrote:

Your machine's getting old, but I have had Mandrake 8.0 working on a similar
machine.  My guess would be that it is bad media.  
Quoting Kevin R. Bulgrien [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 I have a system that successfully boots Mandrake 7.2...
 
 I want to install 8.0 instead, so I have the boot floppy
 and a bootable CD.
 
 I can boot both types of media.  All installation choices
 fail with a hard system hang immediately after the system
 detects the IDE devices in the system.
 
 No error messages are displayed.
 
 Win98 works fine, Mandrake 7.2 works fine.  What might be
 causing this low-level failure in the install process.
 I do not have cutting edge hardware...
 
 AMD K6-166, 96MB RAM, Advansys SCSI controller, SMC ISA
 10MB NIC, ISA soundblaster AWE 64, ATI XPert 98 PCI video
 card.
 
 All the messages I have seen regarding installation 
 failures seem to imply that other people get farther
 than I do...
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Kevin R. Bulgrien 
 
 CPUTYPE=AMD K6-166
 COMPSPEED=166 MHz
 MEMRAM=96Mb
 DRIVES=Western Digital 4GB and Fujitsu 2GB
 PRINTERS=Canon  BJC-600;
 BIOS=Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG12/04/97
 DISPLAY=ATI Rage 128 GL SD PCI (English);
 MULTIMEDIA=Creative AWE64 16-bit Audio (SB16 compatible)
 CDROM=IDE and SCSI CDWriter on Advansys SCSI card
 MODEM=Zoom External 56K LT Voice Faxmodem;Zoom External 56K LT Voice
 Faxmodem;
 NETCARD=ISA SMC EtherEZ (8416);
 MONITOR=Super VGA 1280x1024;
 KEYBOARD=Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboar





Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.0 install hangs after IDE detection

2001-07-26 Thread Kevin R. Bulgrien


The install locks up the system only on the Western Digital WDC AC24300
drive.  Various utilities report that there are no errors on that drive,
though the Disk Minder utility whines about the boot loader not being
present even though Grub works just fine.

If I temporarily take the WD drive out and switch the Fujitsu to be the
master drive, the install will not lock the system up, but, that is not
the drive I want to install on...

The onscreen message log is:

---

block: queued sectors max/low 62581kB/20860kB, 192 slots per queue
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 32000K size 1024 blocksize
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision 6.31
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes : override with idebus=xx
SIS5513: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 09
PCI: Assigned IRQ 14 for device 00:01.1
SIS5513: chipset revision 208
SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
SiS5597
  ide0: BM-DMA at 0x4000-0x4007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
  ide1: BM-DMA at 0x4008-0x400f, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
hda: WDC AC24300B, ATA DISK drive
hdb: FUJITSU M1638TAU, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14

---

At this point the system is locked up and only a power cycle will
reset the system.





[newbie] Mandrake 8.0 install hangs after IDE detection

2001-07-24 Thread Kevin R. Bulgrien


I have a system that successfully boots Mandrake 7.2...

I want to install 8.0 instead, so I have the boot floppy
and a bootable CD.

I can boot both types of media.  All installation choices
fail with a hard system hang immediately after the system
detects the IDE devices in the system.

No error messages are displayed.

Win98 works fine, Mandrake 7.2 works fine.  What might be
causing this low-level failure in the install process.
I do not have cutting edge hardware...

AMD K6-166, 96MB RAM, Advansys SCSI controller, SMC ISA
10MB NIC, ISA soundblaster AWE 64, ATI XPert 98 PCI video
card.

All the messages I have seen regarding installation 
failures seem to imply that other people get farther
than I do...

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Kevin R. Bulgrien 

CPUTYPE=AMD K6-166
COMPSPEED=166 MHz
MEMRAM=96Mb
DRIVES=Western Digital 4GB and Fujitsu 2GB
PRINTERS=Canon  BJC-600;
BIOS=Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG12/04/97
DISPLAY=ATI Rage 128 GL SD PCI (English);
MULTIMEDIA=Creative AWE64 16-bit Audio (SB16 compatible)
CDROM=IDE and SCSI CDWriter on Advansys SCSI card
MODEM=Zoom External 56K LT Voice Faxmodem;Zoom External 56K LT Voice Faxmodem;
NETCARD=ISA SMC EtherEZ (8416);
MONITOR=Super VGA 1280x1024;
KEYBOARD=Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboar





Re: [newbie] rpmdrake (helium) does not add to install list

2000-09-26 Thread Kevin R. Bulgrien


I have this part down...  I know how to add new CD's, and how to
give them meaningful names.

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Spotlight/RpmDrake/

It is pretty clear about how things are SUPPOSED to work.

The thing is, rpmdrake on my system DOES NOT work this way.
It lets me insert the CD and give it a new name.  Then it acts as
though it is rebuilding the database of available packages, but
when the "available to install" package tree comes up,
it is EMPTY.

Thanks for the thoughts, though...

Yeah, I found out about the kicking back CD's if the wrong one
was inserted, but, I still wanted it to ask for a meaningfully named
CD.  For that matter, I think it would be a great feature upgrade to
allow the user to see which CD the item was on, so that if you
didn't have the full set of CD's, you wouldn't have to try adding
a package to see what disk it was on.

What I really want to know, is how to put the original library back,
since obviously the database was pre-existing as it contained the
options for a 4 CD set when I only had 2 CD's in my set.

Kevin Bulgrien

At 11:42 AM 9/26/00 -0400, you wrote:

Kevin,
 Errors I have made suggest a couple of possibilities for you.  Pardon
that I present scenarios rather than give exact answers.  I don't know the
exact answer, but perhaps something here will suggest a solution.  I hope
others on this list will also answer because I'm sure that there is a lot
that I'm overlooking.

 If/when you do reinstall Linux, when adding RPM to the database of
available packages (in RPMDRAK-configure (new)CD) it will kick a suggested
name up before it rebuilds the CD database.  Edit this box to a title more
meaningful to you, the new name will be used in the future.
 Since there is nothing otherwise wrong with Linux, in RPMDRAK configure
each CD again, using a more meaningful name.  RPM programs available on each
disk you do this for will be listed twice, but one will have a meaningful
name.
 If you select an RPM package to install, stick in disks one at a time
when it asks for a disk (assuming that you don't know exactly which disk it's
asking for).  If the disk you insert is the wrong one it will kick it out and
ask again.  When you find the one that works you now know it's ID and can
write it on the jewelcase you store it in (I understand writing on the CD is
a "no no").  -Gary-





[newbie] When an X app fails how do I view error messages?

2000-09-26 Thread Kevin R. Bulgrien


When an X application running under GNOME fails, where do the error
messages go,
and how can I trap for them.  I am running Mandrake 7.1 with a  GUI
login...
Something's broke, and I am not sure how to view the messages.






[newbie] rpmdrake (helium) does not add to install list

2000-09-25 Thread Kevin R. Bulgrien

I have a new Mandrake 7.1 installation.

rpmdrake used non-meaningful descriptors for the CD's that it needed in
order to
install package.
I. E. cdrom_1, cdrom_2, cdrom_3, cdrom_4.  Like a newbie, I remembered
that there
were 4 CD's
referenced in the initial installation, but, I had no idea what order
they were
in, so when it asked
for cdrom_2, I had no idea which CD it really wanted.

Well, like a newbie, I figure, heh, I can fix that, so I deleted the
dumb titles
and went to re-add the
installation CD's into rpmdrake. Well, blat, rpmdrake will not add
anything into
the menu, so my
install list is totally blank.  I know it's at least looking at the cd,
because it
hollers if no CD is in
the drive.

From looking at the script, it seems to be expecting to look at
/mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/base for
something, and sure enough, the CD's have what appear to be package tree

information at that
location.

So, my question is an either or, I suppose...

1) Is it conceivable that I can restore the original package list, and
how might I
do that without doing
 a total reload (yeah, yeah, no, I didn't have a backup somewhere).

-or-

2) Is rpmdrake broken?  Is there a fix?

-or-

3) Might I be doing something wrong.

-or-

4)  Am I asking the wrong questions?  If so, what do I need to know.

Thanks,

Kevin R. Bulgrien