Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Windows
Manny, Are you kidding, I've not been able to do much of anything with the 5.3 I have, and I don't even know how to doanload in Linux. Is the the beta pre release 6.0 you're talking about? Will - Original Message - From: Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 7:28 PM Subject: [newbie] Mandrake for Windows Has anyone tried to install Mandrake for Windows? It's listed as lnx4win under Mandrake/6.0pre on the ftp mirrors. I am not starting another 'MS trying to get into the Linux market' joke. I have downloaded it and plan on trying it out for myself. Seems like a nice alternative for newbies who want to test the system first (and better than most UMSDOS installations). Let me know your experience with it. Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Always and Never are two words to always remember never to use. NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [newbie] A question, comment, and observation oh my!
Hi Ben , i already had this SETI for my Win 98, and love it. But being new to LM 5.3 and not even knowing how todownload using Netscape and linux, Which oneof that long list of syswould youuse? In win98 I have a folder I call downloads, how and where would you do adownload in linux? Or could I downloadusing win98 and then someway install to linux? Thanks, For help Will - Original Message - From: Ben To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 6:14 PM Subject: [newbie] A question, comment, and observation oh my! 1. How do I get kde to start with "num lock" on? 2. After upgrading to netscape 4.6, i've lost the use of my "delete key" in netscape. How do I get netscape to use the "delete" key? 3.Does anyone know of the progress Troll Tech is having porting the "Opera Web Browser" over to linux? On a side note ( and off-topic), if you're in search of a nifty screen saver for linux, check out http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ , and help find ET. Thanks in advance, Ben
Re: [newbie] hey guys
Hi Dan, Seems like I tried it all combo's but I had not known that was the way, will try it now and get b ack to you. Will - Original Message - From: Dan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] hey guys From: Pliler Main Unit [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, I meant to say it didn't respond to the crtl A Z. Did it do anything at all in response to this key combination? If not, you might not have been doing it correctly. You should hit Ctrl-A, release those keys, then hit the letter Z. If that doesn't work, something's hosed, I'd think.
Re: [newbie] hey guys
Dan, Well I went back, and it still didn't seem to work hitting the keys as you state. But this time when I opened minicom, it says its configuring the modem. Well I watched and it seemed to doing somehing like trying to setup on figure out a init string. then it seemed to stop. At this point I htt the Crl A Z and nothing. again to get out I have to reboot. Thanks Will - Original Message - From: Dan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] hey guys From: Pliler Main Unit [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, I meant to say it didn't respond to the crtl A Z. Did it do anything at all in response to this key combination? If not, you might not have been doing it correctly. You should hit Ctrl-A, release those keys, then hit the letter Z. If that doesn't work, something's hosed, I'd think.
[newbie] what a diff a day makes
HI to all, Yesterday , I was wanting to ununstall this new wierd OS, but hey this morning I found the start menu way at the bottom of my screen. WoW, I now seem to have prg's, and etc available to me. I still using KPPP , was not able to find a modem (if said couldn't find), I am using a USB port , with USB modem attached. I do not want to mess with kernal's or any type of compiling yet, so if any one knows how to get the USB port recognized , I would appreciate it. THis 5.3 , right off the CD, from LM. Thanks, Will
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
Hi James, I just bought (yes paid $55 for the LM, thru Circadian soft\ware), because I'm retired with lots of time on my hands. I also was influenced by the ZDTV guys who keep hyping how great this OS is. I don't play games, and my only use would be to do the net. and I can't with my modem even give that a try., So why do I need it, I can't name one reason. I just wasted $55. Will - Original Message - From: James J. Capone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 5:04 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] kernel update configure well if you want to get rid of Linux and remove Lilo from the boot record from the c prompt in DOS. you must boot into dos not be in windows. type this C:\ format /mbr That means format Master Boot Record. that will remove the Lilo boot loader. But Patience is a virtue. Also I am non of the people you listed in your reply and Love running Linux. Once it can be used as a full game station then I will fully convert over. James J. Capone Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co-Author - Linux Book For Newbies. "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In The Apartment Next To Yours!" On Monday, May 17, 1999 5:35 PM, Pliler Main Unit [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hi Don, Me like you are new to this OS, and I have my 5.3 working. But when I go into the KDE desktop as a user, nothing seems to be installed, or working , apps that is. I am very frustrated already, as I have a USB modem, and know it will never (at least under this config) be supported. So how can I even think of giving up MS win98, I cAn't . Seems like all users are supposed to be supergeeks, code writers, programmer's. NOt just a fairly intelligent guy, like you or me. I am ready to bAil, if some one tells me how to delete this LILO, so I won't have it on my C drive. Will - Original Message - From: Donald J. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 2:52 PM Subject: [newbie] kernel update configure OK, here goes...I'm jumping into Linux. Looks like an interesting operating system and besides, I think MS is at least arrogant and perhaps monopolistic, so we need to find something better. I am not an administrator and never will be, but I would like to use and learn the system as I believe the future may belong to an open system. I bought a copy of Redhat 5.2 at my local CompUSA. I ordered a copy of Linux-Mandrake from cheap bytes. No manuals from cheap bytes, living up to their name. I tried (on a 3.1 gig, freshly formatted hard drive with nothing else on it) to install Redhat. I could only get as far as the grey screen. I re-installed twice. Same deal. No one could help me get a windows interface running. So, I tried Mandrake and lo and behold, I got xwindows running right away. Three cheers for Mandrake and BOO to you, redhat! Wouldn't even answer my e-mail after I paid for their system. The screen works (well, almost. It is shrunken at 1024 X 768 but it works), the sound card talks to me and makes all of the .wav noises. With the help of some paid support, I was able to get on ibm.net, my ISP. Still can't get kppp to get me on the internet, but I'll figure that out someday. Now I have a redhat manual and a mandrake system. Nothing seems to match up, although Mandrake is supposed to be compatible with redhat. Sure... So now, I think I would like to upgrade my kernel (now that I know what one is) and have been studying all the information available at several locations. I downloaded and printed out the detailed instructions. I then check to find my kernel and guess what? It is not where it is supposed to be, at least not according to the documentation. Mine is in /proc/sys/kernel not /usr/src/linux. So much for the directions. I suppose that is where it is normally found under Mandrake 5.3, which is (I now know) running on my computer. It would really be nice if there was some information somewhere that would make some of these things available. I am not lazy and would gladly look up the proper information, but it sure is frustrating to try and find something; when everyone that is already using linux assumes that anyone just starting must already know all of this stuff! I have news for you. We DON'T! But we want to support the concept and would like to learn. Please be patient with our ignorance. Most of us are not stupid, just ignorant. I happen to have an airline transport type rating in the 747-400. If you came up in the cockpit with me, I could make you look pretty stupid if I wanted to, but that wouldn't make me any smarter, so I would not do that. enough said... How, please, does one upgrade from 2.0.36 to the new 2.2 kernel under mandrake
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
Hi Dan, I think I'm hopeless. What I mean, I tried to play the CD player, didn't work, altho its installed same with all other desktop apps , they seem have been installed, but don't seem to function. The only thing I've made work, is I know I can get some sound, and I mad e my printer print. The rest,is just some vast unknown, of what I could be capable of doing but don't know how. This was all in the x window , KDE desktop, I see lots of icons, and they won't operate anything. Will - Original Message - From: Dan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] kernel update configure Pliler Main Unit wrote: But when I go into the KDE desktop as a user, nothing seems to be installed, or working , apps that is. Define "nothing". Lots of stuff is installed w/ mandrake by default (like netscape)--does that work? If not, what happens? If it works but other stuff doesn't, _what_ other stuff doesn't work, and what happens when you try? I am very frustrated already, as I have a USB modem, and know it will never (at least under this config) be supported. So how can I even think of giving up MS win98, I cAn't . All OSs have a Hardware Compatibility List, and if something isn't on the list, it's a fair bet it won't work. If the use of the USB modem was critical to you, why didn't you check out the Linux HCL before installing? Or, just set it up as a dual-boot, and use both OSs as needed (I think most Linux users set up their machines this way). Seems like all users are supposed to be supergeeks, code writers, programmer's. NOt just a fairly intelligent guy, like you or me. Intelligence has little to do with the it; it's more an issue of knowledge and attitude. If you start with the attitude that Linux ought to work instantly with all your hardware, without any tweaking, no matter how wierd your hardware is, and that everybody else ought to hand you all the answers on a silver platter, you won't get far with Linux (or anything else, most likely). If you figure from the outset that the system is very different from Windows (which it is, and always will be, no matter how close the UI comes), and that you'll need to learn a lot to be able to use it effectively, you'll do much better. As to the "code writers, programmer's" remark, hardly. I don't even think I'm a "supergeek", though some people might disagree with me there... For most tasks, you just have to be patient, find, and read the documentation. Again, when you set up a Linux box, you _are_ a system administrator, whether you want to be or not, and you need to act like one. I am ready to bAil, if some one tells me how to delete this LILO, so I won't have it on my C drive. Boot from a MS-DOS floppy with FDISK.EXE on it, and type FDISK /MBR. -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
James, Why can't I just delete this file that was created by the LILO install, I assume its a hidden file on my C drive? Any thing to do with format, makes me believe it wipes the MBR clean. Will - Original Message - From: James J. Capone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 6:32 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] kernel update configure Hello, Well stability for one. No need to reboot everytime you upgrade something. Nothing is hidden from you, Better use of space and speed of your computer. Many other reasons. I guess we all have our reasons one or the other. But if you run the format /mbr that will remove Lilo from your boot record and boot right into Windows 9.xxx Good Luck and sorry Linux didn't work out for you, James J. Capone Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co-Author - Linux Book For Newbies. "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In The Apartment Next To Yours!" On Monday, May 17, 1999 6:43 PM, Pliler's Remote Unit Mail [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hi James, I just bought (yes paid $55 for the LM, thru Circadian soft\ware), because I'm retired with lots of time on my hands. I also was influenced by the ZDTV guys who keep hyping how great this OS is. I don't play games, and my only use would be to do the net. and I can't with my modem even give that a try., So why do I need it, I can't name one reason. I just wasted $55. Will
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
James, I haven't definitely decided to do away with Linux yet, just want to be able to when or if I decide. Thanks, Will - Original Message - From: James J. Capone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 6:32 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] kernel update configure Hello, Well stability for one. No need to reboot everytime you upgrade something. Nothing is hidden from you, Better use of space and speed of your computer. Many other reasons. I guess we all have our reasons one or the other. But if you run the format /mbr that will remove Lilo from your boot record and boot right into Windows 9.xxx Good Luck and sorry Linux didn't work out for you, James J. Capone Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co-Author - Linux Book For Newbies. "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In The Apartment Next To Yours!" On Monday, May 17, 1999 6:43 PM, Pliler's Remote Unit Mail [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hi James, I just bought (yes paid $55 for the LM, thru Circadian soft\ware), because I'm retired with lots of time on my hands. I also was influenced by the ZDTV guys who keep hyping how great this OS is. I don't play games, and my only use would be to do the net. and I can't with my modem even give that a try., So why do I need it, I can't name one reason. I just wasted $55. Will
