[newbie] Upgrading
Does anyone know how I can upgrade my site to version 4.5.1 from 4.5 without having to redo all my pages? image001.jpg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] [HAB] Small Network at Home
Okay do you have a router / internet connection? If not point your DNS to the same address as the Linux box. The configure your SAMBA to match the Windows 98 settings. From the Windoze box you should then be able to see the Linux box. From here it is just a case of configuring SAMBA to allow the shares you want. Wally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MyEE Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 12:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] [HAB] Small Network at Home Dear Wally, I realy don't know, I am very confused and lost. Can you tell me how can I set up my local network i.e. what IP address should I use? BR Wally Brown wrote: Why is your DNS pointing to 192.168.2.1? Do you have a router handling the DNS? If so, why isn't everything in the same subnet (192.168.1.0). When you use a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 it tell the computers that your local network is 192.168.1.xxx. You will require a router to access anything not in that range i.e.: 192.168.2.xxx... and so on. Your MDK configuration of the SAMBA client / Server will have to be configured for use within a WORKGROUP. Windows also has a funny way of not showing up in some network environments until you actually share a printer or folder. Good luck Wally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MyEE Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:00 PM To: MDK Subject: [newbie] [HAB] Small Network at Home Dears, I am trying to setup a small network at home consisting of MDK10 and Win98 connected together through by two Ethernet card and a cable using Samba. I setup my network as shown below. I wonder if I am missing anything. Can anyone help with IP addresses. Can anyone point me to a good tutorial for this Linux Box MDK10 Workgroup HABGROUP IP 192.168.1.1 DNS 192.168.2.1 Network 192.168.1.0 Netmask 255.255.255.0 Windows IP 192.168.1.100 DNS 192.168.2.1 Netmask 255.255.255.0 Workgroup HABGROUP WINS ? SAMABA ??? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] [HAB] Small Network at Home
Why is your DNS pointing to 192.168.2.1? Do you have a router handling the DNS? If so, why isn't everything in the same subnet (192.168.1.0). When you use a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 it tell the computers that your local network is 192.168.1.xxx. You will require a router to access anything not in that range i.e.: 192.168.2.xxx... and so on. Your MDK configuration of the SAMBA client / Server will have to be configured for use within a WORKGROUP. Windows also has a funny way of not showing up in some network environments until you actually share a printer or folder. Good luck Wally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MyEE Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:00 PM To: MDK Subject: [newbie] [HAB] Small Network at Home Dears, I am trying to setup a small network at home consisting of MDK10 and Win98 connected together through by two Ethernet card and a cable using Samba. I setup my network as shown below. I wonder if I am missing anything. Can anyone help with IP addresses. Can anyone point me to a good tutorial for this Linux Box MDK10 Workgroup HABGROUP IP 192.168.1.1 DNS 192.168.2.1 Network 192.168.1.0 Netmask 255.255.255.0 Windows IP 192.168.1.100 DNS 192.168.2.1 Netmask 255.255.255.0 Workgroup HABGROUP WINS ? SAMABA ??? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP
You can try Adware. It detects and removes a lot of spyware. Some other scanners will detect it as spyware itself, but it is harmless and safe. It gets detected as such in that it may from time to time report back any new spyware it finds to the software company that writes it. Zone alarm is good only if you use it combined with a router/firewall. Some companies are now making them for dial up as well. If you are high speed, go out and buy a linksys or SMC as they have no know issues with Linux. Make sure you run all the windows updates and run live update on Norton every couple of days to make sure you keep your virus scanner updated. BLACK ICE is a good personal firewall. It is fairly inexpensive and works really well. If you have spyware the is constantly re-installing... Disconnect your PC from the internet and run the cleaner. Reboot the machine and rescan. Once you machine is clean... you can re-connect to the internet. Some Spyware actually goes out to a website and re-installs if it was detected as missing. Wally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thereidos Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 9:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP W licie z wto, 24-08-2004, godz. 16:33, Kaj Haulrich pisze: snip 1. A good, reliable firewall for Windows (preferably OSS and free) ? 2. A spyware/trojan/worm cleaner capable of removing all malware ? 3. Shutting down the whole kaboodle and wait for SP2 ? Many thanks and apologies in advance First of all never, ever connect to the net when you doesn't have any antivirus and firewall running on XP. You can even get the plug off to make sure. On my Win98 box I use avast antivirus (http://www.avast.com/) and sygate's firewall (http://www.sygate.com/). Both programs are free for home use. As far as I remember my friend who runs WinXP uses the same set with no complains but I'll have to ask him whether he uses something else or not. I think he installed SP1 (not SP2). -- Cezary 'Thereidos' Morga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User No. 362185 http://counter.li.org GG# 169903 ICQ# 328-700-565 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP
The best way to fix all of this is to format your drive, install Linux and install wine. I am really surprise to find how many schools have gone the Windows route when there are so many free Linux distributions available and many of the office packages are as good if not better than Microsoft's versions. Only Bill Gates can get away with charging top dollar for a second rate product that is traditionally shipped with bugs in it and can have the attitude of, we'll get to that later. I doubt any of us would still be running Linux, let alone IBM scrapping OS/2 and taking on a Linux distribution of their own if it had half the troubles that Microsoft has had. I'm disappointed that Mandrake doesn't seem to include a copy of xkill with it's distribution, it was the best part of the old release. Wally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaj Haulrich Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 1:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP On Tuesday 24 August 2004 18:21, PM wrote: big whack Hi Kaj, I see you've received plenty of replies re adaware, Zone Alarm etc. You say that you need XP for school related apps, but does this include internet access? If not, I would suggest you dual-boot, set up a FAT 32 partition to store data that can be read by both XP Linux, and use Linux for emails, web. file transfers, etc. yes, virii can be transferred by a linux box, but you'll stand a better chance of catching it. Paul M Hoyt, Bryan, Franki, Lyvim, Todd, Lanman, PM, Thereidos, Wally, Charlie !! What a wonderful list this is. Thank you all. Here's a (compressed) battle report from the XP front : The fool (me) ran Windows-update first. Apparently a big mistake. Next, I installed OpenOffice and Moxilla directly from the net, using IE. Big mistake, I suppose. Then ZoneAlarm. Then AGV antivirus. (which seems to work well). After that I cleaned up with XoftSpy, getting rid of another [EMAIL PROTECTED] of malware. (some of it re-installs immidiately). Now - after about 5 hours of intense shelling, every time I daringly peep up from my foxhole, this box attracts enemy fire from artillery, flame-throwers, machine guns and whatnot. ZoneAlarm is on overtime, popping up every other second. I guess all those defenses are chewing up most of my CPU cycles, what with the system becoming incredibly slow. If I hadn't been warned of Windows by the years on this list, I'd never believe my own eyes : what a mountain of manure, this XP ! Crappy isn't the word Jeez.. Tomorrow I'll work on with this ยค%## operating system following all your kind advice, but : I WILL DO IT OFF LINE. I intend to download the suggested programs onto my Mandrake box, burn the lot to CD and install from there. Furthermore, I got an agreement with my daughter : until further notice, she will do ALL of her networking from my Linux box (she is a user here) and only do some schoolwork on the Windows box, as you suggested. Clumsy, but necessary. If everything fails, I will buy a router or let her connect through my Linux box, eventually, but I'm too lazy and frustrated to set it up right now. I cannot for my souls sake get into my head, that some people voluntarily runs this garbage OS. But that's me Thanks again, folks Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.0) - kernel 2.6.7* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP
Great! Thanks I've been trying to find it... I might not have lost all my menus if I knew where it was. I was installing the Mandrake documentation and it crashed. After trying everything, I rebooted the box (properly). When I logged back in, the installation re-started and completed properly but I had no other menu items. Some of the Applets are missing, but for the most part they are all there. I tried rebuilding the menus with no luck. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aron Smith Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP On Tuesday 24 August 2004 03:12 pm, Wally Brown wrote: I'm disappointed that Mandrake doesn't seem to include a copy of xkill with it's distribution, it was the best part of the old release. Wally It is do a left control alt escape move the mouse to the progrm and hit enter Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] FTP Server
Anyone know how to configure the FTP server to change which folder it points to? I would like to be able to point my account to my web server folder to allow for remote file updates. Wally
[newbie] Planning server build
Hi Folks. Firstly, thanks to those who advised on using NetBEUI. I wasn't looking to share the CM, just see the desktop's hard disk. Anyway, the goalposts have shifted and my server build has commenced. I'm at the stage of putting the hardware together and would appreciate comments on my game plan as it stands thus far. Partitions: The disk is 40gig and the motherboard can take 2gig of ram in total (starting at 256meg). Is a partition split of 8/2/30 (system/swap/data) about right as a fairly future-proof proposition (Mandrake 8.1)? Although my intention is still to work mostly at the command line (and via webmin), this box will be fast enough to do gui and I'll probably want to try the gui options at some point. The main features of the eventual system are something like... File server to windows and linux clients on LAN. Internet gateway via cable modem. Firewall. Print server. Web server. Remote login and access to user data. Some questions... File service to Win clients by Samba, yes? How about to the laptop when it's running linux? Do I mount a network drive or something? The cable modem will be accommodated using a second LAN card in the server. How do I get it to sort out an IP/lease with the CM company? Tell it to use DHCP in the network/NIC setup in linuxconf? How do I set up the gateway for the LAN? (Is it a config thing, or do I need to install a prog?) Is there a built in firewall? If not, what's on the MD CDs that I should I use? Can I install/config the firewall before moving the CM to the server? Will the firewall prompt for approval when a Win prog wants to access the net for the first time, or do I have to config each thing manually? What's the scoop with setting up a print server? What do I have to install? Web server is, I assume, Apache. Is the CGI back-endy stuff part of the standard install? What do I need to be able to generate and send forms-based email? What ways are there to handle remote access? I'd like the data partition to appear in Network Wossname in Windows Explorer - the more draggy-droppy, the better. It has to be based on a user account on the server - I'm not into, say, an FTP server that requires separate account setup. Will Samba do this over the CM? How about doing this over a direct dial-up to my server, rather than via the internet? TIA! Wally Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] NetBEUI on Linux?
Is there a way to get my Mandrake 8.1 laptop to see my Windows desktop using NetBEUI? Can't use TCP/IP at the moment because the desktop's ip is assigned via the cable modem. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing the bash prompt
- Original Message - From: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] definition of ~/.bashrc ~ = Your home directory ~/ = inside your home directory . = any file starting with a period is a hidden file Thanks for explaining the syntax. :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing the bash prompt
- Original Message - From: Gerald Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to get ls to remember my preferred settings (colour, wide dirinfo display), but it wouldn't take a set command from the command line. How can I make this kind of thing stick? # ~/.bash_profile: executed by bash(1) for login shells. set -o vi alias email='mutt -y' eval `dircolors` alias ls='ls --color=auto'; Aha. alias dir='ls -l --color=always' seems to do what I want. :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing the bash prompt
- Original Message - From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] As a matter of fact, you can use a desktop from that other OS on a second machine to configure most things on a linux machine, just as easily as a linux GUI with browser. Just load and run webmin (installed by default in most cases) or use the webversion of linuxconf. You can then sit at a browser logged into https://(your_linux_machine_address):1 as root with the root password (first time--thereafter, it is how you choose to set up the security) and run a GUI (with clickable help in many cases) to configure servers, set up jobs to run, set up schedules for jobs, execute CLI commands, create custom commands, administer the system, etc. In fact, though it is relatively rare that one would need to, you can even force a reboot on the remote linux system. Yep, a guy at work mentioned that one can do linux admin via a browser, and that's something I'll be wanting to do. I do tend to the view that running around the command line is a great way to learn a system, but you have to have some idea of what's going on - I think Midnight Commander will help me get a picture of things (faster, more intuitive browsing, basically). With a clearer idea of how the system is organised, CLI will be much easier - which should make webmin a breeze. Gotta get the LAN sorted out before I can webmin, though. Once the proper Linux box is running, I'll want to transfer the cable modem to it, so that I can do via-LAN web and email on both the desktop and laptop. The problem is that there's no room in the desktop for a second NIC, and it upsets the CM if I start fiddling with settings to make the d/t talk to the laptop (which is acting as my try-out linux box for now). I did have a play a few days ago and got as far as being able to see the Samba workgroup, but couldn't get into it. Things will be easier once the d/t linux box is together - then I can use that and Windows on the laptop to get the LAN stuff going. Once I'm happy with that I have to prepare for a smooth transfer of the CM to the server - gotta keep internet up in case I need files or help. Mmm, I'm glad I digressed there - I seem to have a plan now! So, I have build a server out of stuff that's recent enough to see a 40gig disk... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing the bash prompt
- Original Message - From: Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gotta get the LAN sorted out before I can webmin, though. Not really -- you can use webmin locally, like https://localhost:1. Is there some sort of web server installed by default? (Not familiar with the https prefix.) Do I need some sort of GUI installed? I'm not sure that Lynx (if it's there) is a route I want to follow. LIS, I want to learn the system behind webmin in any case - gotta know my way around at the command prompt. When the time comes, I guess I'll use linuxconf for the LAN settings (unless if find the settings files before then...). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cannot partition
- Original Message - From: Blood Slap [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've tried defragging multiple times in windows with rearrange files so my programs start faster turned off and on, but I get the same problem, so I will look for other defragmenting apps that might help, also partitioning software. A reinstall is worth considering... Assemble the disks you will recquire and copy essential settings (email servers and the like) into a text file. Wipe the new drive and set up your Windows partition. Install Windows, drivers, and the apps you use. Add the old drive to the same computer (set jumpers as neccessary) and copy your data onto the new drive. (Or use a CD burner if you have one.) When you set up email and the like, copy'n'paste from the text file. If you want to retain stuff like email folders, favourites, etc, it can usually be done although the method can be Win version dependent. Don't wipe the old drive for as long as you can avoid doing so - keep it for the purpose of restoring stuff that you might have missed. Although you might want to get a decent defragger at some point, this method defrags for free, gets rid of all those apps that got tried out once and were left lying, and doesn't take too long unless the app-count is high. About an evening, tops. When you're done, back up the user settings directories before the temp internet files folders are full of junk (faster copy). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing the bash prompt
- Original Message - From: Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday 24 March 2002 09:35 pm, Wally wrote: So, what's the equivalent of autoexec.bat? Where can I do tweaky stuff? I don't mean to RTFM you, but bash is big. A good start would be man bash from a terminal. TBH, I don't find the man system a particularly friendly one. And it's more my nature to jump in and look at files first - I find documentation makes more sense if I've seen the stuff being referred to. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing the bash prompt
- Original Message - From: Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] I apologize for the curt response. No problem. Fortunately a number of others gave you more informative answers, and now you're tweaking away to your heart's content. Haven't actually booted the linux box today - it's also a Windows box and I've been setting up a pcmcia modem. I dare say I'll be having a play this evening, and I'll try out their suggestions then. My main problem with man is that I have to know the name of the command in order to access the man file. Well, there's a bunch of commands with not-always-intuitive names and I don't have the sharpest memory. What I'd like to see is a browsable front end. Not a GUI deal, just some text-mode screen that uses handy things like the arrow/esc/enter keys to let one move around dirs and files, letting one do useful stuff like 'read docs', 'get quick help', 'install', 'run', etc. Plenty of such stuff like that for DOS, but I don't think I've seen similar mentioned amongst linux people. Another problem is that it can be bewildering when there are so many choices for a given app (like text editors). On the MD8.1 download, they're just dumped into a single RPMs directory - how on earth is a newbie supposed to manage when the app he might or might not want is buried somewhere in a list of 2000 files? With an all-too-often obscure xmc3-2.11-mightworkifyou'relucky.rpm file name. One solution that I've found useful is the Linux Cookbook -- available on paper and also online at www.nostarch.com. It's task oriented, so that if I want to search for a specific bit of text, and I can't remember whether I should use grep (or is it gerp? grope?) or some other tool, a few minutes scanning the chapter on searching text gets me pointed in the right direction. I'll have a look. Was at the local computer mega-store today (getting the modem) and had a look at their linux books. I didn't really feel that any of them fitted the bill - quite a few based around RedHat 7.x, but I'm not sure how relevant that would be to Mandrake 8.1. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing the bash prompt
- Original Message - From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] For systemwide stuff, edit /etc/rc.local. Just pulled this up for a look-see... For local, try ~/.bashrc ...and have already fiddled with this. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing the bash prompt
So, what's the equivalent of autoexec.bat? Where can I do tweaky stuff? I'd like to get ls to remember my preferred settings (colour, wide dirinfo display), but it wouldn't take a set command from the command line. How can I make this kind of thing stick? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Newbie seeks Mandrake install advice
- Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should have downloaded the 'iso' images ... Once you have your discs burned insert CD#1 and configure your BIOS to boot from CD. Everything is then automatic and you will be guided through the install. Before you start defrag your Windows drive and be sure to UNCHECK the box where windows defragger offers to order programs to start faster. If you do not do this then you cannot be sure that Linux will be able to find a large enough contiguous area of disc in which to create a linux partition. The Win2k defrag isn't terribly helpful - in spite of having 2gigs free, I can only get at about 1gig. How much disk does it need for a lightweight install? I'm planning to install it on my laptop for now (when I asked my earlier question, it was with a view to building a linux-only server on a desktop PC). Since I don't really know linux very well, I figure putting it on the laptop will be better for learning because I can play with it when I want. Not too bothered about having X - more the unix command line stuff and general system architecture that I want to learn. User accounts, file server (samba?), that sort of thing. At the very least you need CD #1, but CD#2 contains some very useful stuff CD#3 IMHO you can mostly do without. Got all three. :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Sony laptop CD visibility for MD8.1 install
Want to install Mandrake 8.1 on a Sony Vaio 505FX, but having trouble with the MD installer seeing the CD-ROM drive... The laptop's CD drive connects via a PCMCIA card. Although the Mandrake CD boots okay, the install then fails to see the disk. Did some web-troffing and found that folks installing earlier versions Mandrake and RedHat told the installer something like... ide1=0x180,0x386 In the MD8.1 install, there's a text-mode dialog box where one can add parameters, but it's not clear which driver I should use (cdrom.o? ide-cd.o?). I'm not sure if the particular parms I'm using apply to this machine. Have also tried... ide1=0x180,0x360 ide2=0x180,0x386 ide2=0x180,0x360 on both drivers, but no joy. Does anyone know which driver I should select, and which parms (if any) I should supply? Wally Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Vaio 505 install reaches 1st base - more questions...
- Original Message - From: Gerald Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have now stuck a NetGear FA410TX pcmcia 10/100 NIC into it. How do I get it to talk to the NIC? It seemed to notice the NIC during the system boot, but LinuxConf is a tad unfamiliar to me (I have a reasonable understanding of TCP/IP). Try using Control Center hardware Is that a gui thingy? Also, how do I 'log' to another drive? Can I browse the FAT32 partition as if it were a local drive? I'm aware that it's dev/hda1, but trying to do ls or cd to the device came back with 'not a directory'. mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/disk Aha... Then you can browse /mnt/disk Found it at mnt/windows - Mandrake must have set it to that. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Vaio 505 install reaches 1st base - more questions...
- Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well done.. You are having to work at getting this installed ;-) It was down to working round the foibles of the Sony... Mandrake is pretty good at detecting NIC's .. I ditched most of the NIC settings and it seems to be happier during boot. My options for a LAN are presently restricted to the desktop (via a suspect crossover cable ), or the cable modem - neither of them caused the LEDs on the NIC dongle to light up. I kinda thought something would come on even if the drivers were iffy. They come on in a w2k boot. .. You probably just need to set up DHCP if needed, DNS server, Default gateway, and HostName A good tool for this is netconf. It works in X or from the command line. I'll have a fiddle next time I boot it. The command 'ifconfig' is good for looking at NIC status and setting it up on the fly. See 'man ifconfig' for a full breakdown Righty-ho. Yes.. By default Mandrake will mount the first Windows partition as /mnt/windows you can just browse there. Yup, I stumbled over it earlier. If you have trouble writing to the partition (and it is not NTFS) then the permissions in the file /etc/fstab will sort you out. Time to try out the cp command. During the install, it said it had trouble with emacs. I only copied the first CD to the Win partition. Assuming the RPM thingy can be tracked down, is that a decent editor (for a Win/DOS jockey to use quickly without screaming)? If not, what would be a suitable choice? Check out the documentation at http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fdoc.php3 and on your hard drive at /usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/index.html for basic commands and the file structure. That would be handy.. :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
