Re: [newbie] XFree86 vs. Xorg
On Sat, 2004-06-26 at 08:13, Lanman wrote: I've been seeing some posts on the list lately about Xorg. If I understand it correctly, Xorg is a replacement for XFree86? Before taking the plunge and screwing my system up severely, I'd appreciate some information from someone who's successfully installed and configured it. For instance, do I need to remove XFree86 from my system before installing Xorg? What tools are used to configure Xorg, the video card and the display? Are their any quirks to look out for during and after the install? If anyone can provide some help on this, I'd certainly appreciate it! Lanman __ I switched to Xorg yesterday on my laptop and the graphics actually look better!!! transition was easy..I used Charles site for the rpms. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake OT
On Sat, 2004-06-26 at 19:19, Chuck MATTSEN wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 robin wrote: | The traditional method is to go to a crossroads at midnight, draw a | pentagram on the ground and sacrifice a goat. Otherwise, the method Joe | suggests will probably work. Bah! Any decent secret society would require virgin sacrifice. There are virgins left in this world ...not in my neighborhood.. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where do I install???
On Sat, 2004-06-26 at 20:34, Preston Smith wrote: The Newbie strikes again. I have two partitions on my my system - / (root) 13 GB on a one year old drive and /home 6GB on a 3 year old drive. I have just in stalled Mdk 10.0 again and now want to install Mozilla FireFox and Thunderbird. I have downloaded the compressed files (are they what one calls tar balls?) from the Mozilla site. I have figured out that I can use Ark to decompress the files. Now for the hard question - In which directory do I install programs such as these? I would like to be able to keep them as I go through further installs of MDK 10.x? Thanks for the help Preston __ put them on the Home partition because as you upgrade, home is normally left alone... Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] laptop won't shut down completley
I have a Compaq Presario 3077wm duel booting winxp and Mandrake 10 official. When I went to shut it down, everything did so normally. A while later, I noticed a light on the laptop was lit and realized that Mandrake rebooted again so I shut it down a second time. I checked it a while later and found the screen blank but when I hit the enter button, mandrake was still running. I had to reboot into windows (which I never use) to get the laptop to shut down. I turned off all the power controls and still have the problem. My desktop shuts down with no problem. Anyone else having this problem? Is it just a version 10 problem? I didn't have this problem with 9.2. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] nvidia geforce graphics card
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 07:50, John wrote: Hello The .run file did not find the kernel source file. How would I specify the kernel source path? I have tried several of the command options listed in the read me text. The nvidia-installer log says that it is unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. I am using md10 with kernel 2.6.3-7mdk. Thanks John __ Have you gone to the PLF easy urpmi site and set it up? (http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php) If so, you will be able to download the kernel source for your kernel through Mandrake control center. Once installed, hit ctrl-alt-f1, sign on, SU to root, type: init 3, then sh NVIDIA-Linux etc. At this point it should install the driver. type init 5 and then ctrl-alt-f7 which will bring you back to your window manager. Go to mandrake control center and under hardware, set up your graphics card. log out and restart X or just reboot and it should load the NVIDIA driver. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] nvidia geforce graphics card
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 11:12, John wrote: Walt I had to remove the kernel source that I had installed from the cd's and reinstall. After that it was a very short time and everything was working great. It has been a learning experience for me and frustrating at times. Thanks for your help and thanks to Robin also. John If you really want a learning experience, try Gentoo LOL Walt (who still has mandrake on his main computer and always will ;-) ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] nvidia geforce graphics card
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 18:21, John wrote: I have just installed nvidia geforce mx 4000 graphics card. Installation appeared to go ok using the md10 driver and kernel source.I am using the opengl screensavers however and they are now moving frame by frame instead of flowing as before. Is 128mb of ram not enough or are there other settings to change? I used the mandrake drivers as it was easier for newbie me than installing driver from nvidia.com. Thanks in advance for help. John __ you will need the NVIDIA.com driver, just make sure you have your kernel source installed. It is not as hard as you think to install it. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Ya, Linux is just a beotch to configure and use...
On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 14:22, JoeHill wrote: Heh. Plopped down 99 bucks for a GeForce FX PCI card (since my 'Trident Cyberblade' onboard refused to do DRI and was slow as shite). Powered down, slotted the card, powered back up, Mandrake detected it and offered to run the 'appropriate config tool', which meant selecting the GF instead of the onboard, and that's it. It loaded the appropriate modules/drivers, modified my XFConfig, and now I am happily watching fullscreen video and using my beloved SVCD script again. You know, I just can't get the hang of this Linux thing... :-D Yeah, Linux sux doesn't it. LOL I bought a new GEforce fx agp card a couple of weeks ago and love it Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10
On Sat, 2004-04-17 at 08:17, Keith Powell wrote: I assume that the cheap CDs I would buy from, for instance, The Libranet Emporium, would be the download edition. If I remember correctly, it was mentioned on the list some time ago that the download edition will have adverts which will pop up at any time. This inconvenience is to help 'persuade' us to buy the boxed sets, which will be free of them. Is this correct, or am I dreaming it? Knowing me, it is probably the latter! Any information will be greatfully received. This is mis-information! no adverts pop up walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 Community available to club members...
On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 04:07, Derek Jennings wrote: If Club members have absolutlely no privileges, not available to non members then they would be whining instead of you. Not surprisingly MandrakeSoft want to please the people who actually pay something. Let's see, I purchased MY copies of mandrake since 1999. I have every version BTW, since then. I guess beta testing and reporting bugs means nothing. I don't see the point in a 'club' anyway, I am not going to pay for something twice. I will either wait for the boxed set or move on to another distro, which is what linux is all about, freedom of choice. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 Community available to club members...
On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 23:00, Glenn wrote: via bittorrent (see the club site). Glenn Club members were not the only ones to beta test mandrake 10.0. making this version available to club members only is just going to make people look elsewhere for a distro. Not everyone can afford to be in the club. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dvd Playback
On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 17:10, Marc Resnick wrote: Well I can't get DVD playback to work. I get the error 'Can't Open VMG Info' with Mplayer. Here's my lilo, just in case it has to do with how I boot Linux: You need to get the proper codecs to play dvd's. do a google search for plf and click on easy urpmi and follow the steps. go to MCC and click on install software. install libdvdcss. You may want wincodects too. I find that Xine does a better job with dvd's than mplayer. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dvd Playback
On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 18:04, Marc Resnick wrote: What's MCC? I have libdvdcss installed already...and I can never get Xine to work. But I'm going to try to remove it then install it once more. Thanks for the help, Marc Mandrake control center. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] wirless net working
I am attempting to get my internal wireless, Broad com 54G working on my Compaq presario 3000. I am using Mandrake 10 RC1 with the 2.6 kernel. I am ashamed to say that it works fine in winXP Any ideas? I know wireless seems to be a problem in linux. Walt -- A bush should be in a yard or part of a landscape, not in the White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] what I like about Mandrake 10 RC1
I just discovered that I can use either the USB mouse or the touchpad on my Compaq Presario 3000. I was looking at harddrake for information about my wireless network card and noticed that the mouse has an ALL driver. It can use either ps2 or usb. I found myself unplugging the usb and using the touchpad and plugging it in over and over again.guess it doesn't take much to amuse me LOL Also, a recent thread talked about Compaq laptops. I bought this one a week ago and Mandrake 10 beta 2 installed perfectly and detected everything... Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing 9.2 with the latest and greatest (stable)
On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 20:37, Thinker wrote: wI downloaded the install disk images via Bittorrent. I now have 10.0rc1 installed on my desktop. It looks great and is really fast. Just a few questions. 1. I thought this installation would include a 2.6.x kernel by default. I didn't see anywhere in the installation process where it asked me to choose a kernel. -=Thinker When I installed Mandrake 10 RC1, I hit f1 and told it to install the 2.6 kernel. When I was done the install, it booted the 2.4 as default. I changed lilo to boot to the 2.6 as default. walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing 9.2 with the latest and greatest (stable)
On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 21:39, Thinker wrote: On Feb 22, 2004, at 9:18 PM, Dennis Myers wrote: Same here, I mentioned a couple of days ago that with a normal install and using the package selection method, I had a boot up with no problem but it was the 2.4 kernel. I had to manually change lilo to select the 2.6.3 kernel. Once I had that, zoom. How did you manually change lilo to select the 2.6.3 kernel ? -=Thinker __ Mandrake control center boot boot loader..hit okay a screen with your lilo items comes up, highlight the 2.6 kernel click on modify and check it as the default lilo config will write a new boot order. that's it Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10 RC1 !
On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 17:16, robin wrote: Anyone have any success with nVidia drivers? 2.6 sounds good, but if I can't play Tuxracer, I'm not interested ;-) Sir Robin running Mandrake 10 RC! right now with latest Nvidia driver installed.. tuxracer rules!!! just make sure you have the kernel source installed Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Preparing (hopefully) to install (Compaq laptop, anybody?)
On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 22:18, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Marc: There's a freeware program (Ranish Partition Manager) that is supposed to do everything that PM can do. I've never used it myself, but I've seen lots of good words about it elsewhere. Perhaps that might get Chuck going. Legally. My main reservation is if it will handle the strange stuff that Compaq does. -- cmg __ I am thinking about buying a compaq at work and following this thread would a HP be better then? Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ftp install how-to
On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 10:39, Charlie Mahan wrote: Walt Don't worry that everything below seems to be about cooker Walt. It was written (mostly) before Mandrake 9.2 became fact and applies to that more than a current cooker install anyway. Excerpt below from the page: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo Thank-you very much!!! this is just what I needed!! Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Yaayyy!
Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 02 February 2004 06:14 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Monday 02 February 2004 23:48, Charlie Mahan wrote: You may want to check that and wait a few days. beta2 is due out very shortly. I am running beta 1 right now and so far so good. Evolution isn't included though. I need to get it. No problems with the 2.6 kernel. everything is working but still checking I had all 3 disks downloaded and burned in a little over an hour. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Problems
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 23:19, E. Hines wrote: This sort of highlights the difference between Mandrake and SuSe. Mandrake is cutting edge and stuff may not work. SuSe is a page behind, but stuff works. But God, I really hate YAST. Mandrake's user tools are so much better--when they work, anyway. And that is why I still use Mandrake, if anyone reading this really cares. Actually Suse 9.0 is great. I am torn between sticking with Mandrake (I have a 4-5 year history with it) or moving on to Suse. A lot of people say that Mandrake is a beginner distro. Don't know. Everything works for me in Mandrake 9.2 but can't get xine or mplayer to work in suse, LOL Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Redhat = traitors???
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 14:49, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Read the excerpt, follow the link for the complete story: Red Hat's chief executive has said that Linux needs to mature further before home users will get a positive experience from the operating system, saying they should choose Windows instead... Matthew Szulik, chief executive of Linux vendor Red Hat, said on Monday that although Linux is capable of exceeding expectations for corporate users, home users should stick with Windows: 'I would say that for the consumer market place, Windows probably continues to be the right product line,' he said... http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2003110401326NWDTRH I have been saying for a while now that red hat was the 'Microsoft of Linux, this just proves it..never really did like red hat... Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SHould I get SuSe
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 19:17, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 11:05:11 +1100 finalfiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: http://www.open-mag.com/1726339824.shtml ... I'm tempted. Don't see anything there that isn't available through Mandrake. In fact, it doesn't even come with Samba 3.0, which is available for MDK 9.2 in Contrib, it comes with Gnome 2.2, whereas MDK comes with 2.4, and Mozilla 1.4 and OO 1.1 are hardly attention-grabbers. Oh, and *wow*, it will automatically dual boot with Windows, MDK has been doing that since, what, 9.0? Most of the whiz-bang hardware support comes from the kernel, which has very little, if anything at all, to do with Suse. Biig deal. I just installed Suse 9.0 on my other computer and I like it..Mandrake will always be my number one, but Suse has become #2..just put redhat nine in the trash... Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nvidia and 9.2
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 19:14, HaywireMac wrote: Well, I don't think you are going to see the performance from the Mandrake driver that you will see from the Nvidia driver. Even Tom Brinkman, who foreswears using the proprietary driver, IIRC, has said as much. As long as you have the kernel sources, the Nvidia driver should install fine, no matter which kernel you are running. I definitely see a difference using the Nvidia driver compared to what was out of the box. I had no problem installing it. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What do you suppose this is about?
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 21:38, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Sunday 02 November 2003 07:11 pm, HaywireMac wrote: For those with nothing worthwhile to do, you can find extensive speculation on the true and revealed meaning of all of this at Texstar (http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=7947) and the Club (op cit). -- cmg I'm enjoying reading some of the peoples responses at texstar LOL walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] And the beat goes on...
Ronald J. Hall wrote: Poor, poor, Microsloth... ;-) http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-10-14-019-26-NW-MS-PB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com As a friend told me..governments not using microsoft products doesn't mean anything. It is big corporations not using them that would kill them. This is probably true in my book. Walt running Mandrake Linux 9.2 and loving it... between George Bush, Microsoft and Wal-Mart, we are all going to get F***ed... -- me Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mozzilla mail
I am trying to bring over my mozilla email and contacts from my windows hard drive to my linux box. what is the file extention and location of my person mail etc.? Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which version of Mandrake?
On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 02:18, Kesav Tadimeti wrote: Hi, Someone (Sir Robin I believe) said that V8.1 was bad and 8.2 was Mandrake's best release yet. Mandrake Linux 9.0 didn't receive a favorable review from OS news .com. Is it better to wait for 9.1 or go ahead for 9.0? And how do I upgrade an existing 8.1 to 9.0. Delete the /, /usr mounts and reinstall? Please help. Thanks in advance... keshav I love 9.0 but have to use it on an older machine because it doesn't like the chipset on my newest computer but 8.2 will work flawlessly on it. Not sure if any problems would incur if you choose 'upgrade' when you put disk one of 9.0 in. It worked for 8.2 but I actually prefer a clean install. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.0 installation problems
On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 13:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the attempt but that isn't the situation here. My apologies for not making it clearer. The problem seems to be linked with my new motherboard in particular. It runs Mandrake 8.1 and 8.2 beautifully. It just won't install Mandrake 9.0 (I also tried RedHat 8.0 for that matter). I know the installation CDs are fine because I used them on other PCs. I know the CDRom drive isn't the problem because it reads the cds without a problem. It seems to be the actual installation that causes the freeze to the system. When booting from a disk after writing an cdrom.img to it, it still freezes just before the 2nd phase of the installation startup. The same goes for any attempt booting from the harddrive as I copy the entire 3 CDs to another hardrive in a fat32 partition and use a floppy with the hd.img image to boot. BTW, that is an awesome trick to accelerate installation for those whom are curious. It has other benefits too. Frank: What I did, was to make a boot disk in windows using the cd image from the alternate directory. I then booted using this floppy and it asked for the first cd, once it loaded into memory, I did an upgrade to LM 8.2, which was already installed. after completing the installation,when LILO came up, I booted to the old linux and was able to get to my LM 9.0 upgrade with no problem. I then renamed 'old linux' to just linux so that when it automatically booted to linux,it would boot with no problems. I do not like this motherboard and will be replacing it next week. I am actually using a celeron 400 MHz machine right now which had no problem loading LM 9.0.Feel free to email me off list if you have any other questions about it. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.0 installation problems
On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 14:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am referring to the K7VMM MoBo installation problem with Mandrake 9.0. I was about to follow the Mandrake 9.0 installation patch specified on their website (with the CTL/ALT/F2 etc...) and then noticed that although you (Walt) were able to successfully install it with this technique, it would not boot up anyway. Did you ever get this to finally boot up nicely? If so, what did you need to do? I on the same boat K7VMM mobo. I think I may have found the fix. I will let you know the results tonight. Aparently the bug is common in many different ways (if that oxymoron makes sense.) All I have to do is boot off the installation cdrom with the noapic option added before boot. Go through the standard installation but add the noapic option in lilo.conf so that it is permanent. Supposingly it should turn out with a Viola!!, but we'll see. (Figures crossed) According to the MandrakeForum, this should help diagnose most periphial conflicts during startup without hindering its functionality from thereafter. Till we meet again. -Frank This did not work for me at all, maybe you will have luck with it. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I finally did it!!
On Sun, 2003-01-05 at 07:55, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 05 January 2003 10:01 am, John Richard Smith wrote: funny you should mention that I'm having much the same message too. I don't think mplayer is instyalling right with M9.0 , don't know the reason yet. I'm beginning to suspect the compiler. but I had no problems with the DVD ROM on this computer under windows. oh well, back to optimizing my machine... Walt John I've got a faster 'puter now (AMD XP2100) but I had Mplayer running just fine on my 900 mhz Athlon and my sons' 850 mhz Duron. What CPU/mem are you using? Right now I am using a celeron 400 mhz with 512 megs mem. because mandrake 9.0 has way too many problems on my other computer ECS MB, AMD duron 1.2 ghz) to even bother with. Plan on getting a new MB in a couple of weeks which should solve any problems, but I want to use my DVD Rom before then... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I finally did it!!
On Sun, 2003-01-05 at 22:23, Smiley wrote: On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 20:07:06 -0500 Walt Frampus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now I am using a celeron 400 mhz with 512 megs mem. because mandrake 9.0 has way too many problems on my other computer ECS MB, AMD duron 1.2 ghz) to even bother with. Plan on getting a new MB in a couple of weeks which should solve any problems, but I want to use my DVD Rom before then... What model of ECS do you own? I have Duron 1.3 based system on an ECS mb and all works fine Smiley K7VMM and when i did a google search with it and linux, I found many, many pages with people trying to figure out how to get linux MD 9.0 and RH 8.0 on it. I can run LM 8.2 fine off of it but I love 9.0 and do not want to go back to it. I couldn't even use my AGP geforce vid card with it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I finally did it!!
On Sun, 2003-01-05 at 22:25, Smiley wrote: On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 15:01:21 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: funny you should mention that I'm having much the same message too. I don't think mplayer is instyalling right with M9.0 , don't know the reason yet. I'm beginning to suspect the compiler. I get Mplayer installed on my M9.0 from plf packages with no problem at all... Smiley I have Mplayer from PLf also and I have it working now..sort of..the video is running slow and I get a font location error lol but I guess I just need to do some fine tuning with codecs etc. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I finally did it!!
I am now using mandrake linux 9.0 99.9% of the time. I only have one program that I have to use windows for. Since I had so many problems installing linux on my ECS motherboard, I switched back to my slower computer until I can get a new motherboard. I decided the only way I was going to learn and use linux was to just use it. I am working out the geforce driver issues and Java etc. but so far, everything is going smoothly. MPlayer did tell me that my computer was too slow to play DVD's but I had no problems with the DVD ROM on this computer under windows. oh well, back to optimizing my machine... Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] iso downloading problems
I have written about a problem with downloading and using the install disk for md 9.0. Still having that problem. Right now I am downloading it from mandrake 8.2. The others have been in windows XP. I am really trying to give linux a fair chance. 9.0 looks very promising to me. I need to be able to use my dvd rom tho. I have a AMD k7 duron 1.2 procesor, g-force vid card. Mandrake 8.2 installed with no problems. Might just have to wait for the official release to come out. Was going to buy it anyway but wanted to install it now. I get the opening screen and hit enter and get a black screen. Have hit f1 and tried the other install methods with no luck. Any ideas guys? Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com