[newbie] data loss - what's happening
Hi I'm running Mandrake 9.2 in a dual boot set-up with Windows. On at least three occasions I've lost some of my working documents in the process of rebooting. When I log out the Open Office Documents are open, but when I log on they are nowhere to be found, not in my Trash or in the place where I saved them last. I save frequently, so it is not an issue of losing the document because I never saved. Once or twice when I started Open Office, the filename was displayed and I was asked if I wanted to restore the session or save it... I can't remember exactly, but I think I chose both the options at different times and each time the result was that the file dissappeared for good. Does anybody have any clue what happened. I've lost some crucial data in the process. What am I doing wrong? Weiers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] data loss - what's happening
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 06:25, Weiers Coetser wrote: Hi I'm running Mandrake 9.2 in a dual boot set-up with Windows. On at least three occasions I've lost some of my working documents in the process of rebooting. When I log out the Open Office Documents are open, but when I log on they are nowhere to be found, not in my Trash or in the place where I saved them last. I save frequently, so it is not an issue of losing the document because I never saved. Why would you leave ANY applications running when you log out? By logging out you kill those applications and any data that's in them...so yes, you would effectively loose the data (or document) that you're working on. You should always close/save applications/data prior to logging off... Once or twice when I started Open Office, the filename was displayed and I was asked if I wanted to restore the session or save it... I can't remember exactly, but I think I chose both the options at different times and each time the result was that the file dissappeared for good. Try looking in the ~/.openoffice/usr/temp directory - MAYBE your documents (the lost ones) are in there somewhere... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Each team building another component has been using the most recent tested version of the integrated system as a test bed for debugging its piece. Their work will be set back by having that test bed change under them. Of course it must. But the changes need to be quantized. Then each user has periods of productive stability, interrupted by bursts of test-bed change. This seems to be much less disruptive than a constant rippling and trembling. - Frederick Brooks Jr., The Mythical Man Month Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Shows How lost I can sometimes be: I thought one of the beauties of the Multiple desktops with Linux is that when I log-out, the desktop settings and programmes are saved and restored as they were when I log in for the next session. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] data loss - what's happening
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 06:25, Weiers Coetser wrote: Hi I'm running Mandrake 9.2 in a dual boot set-up with Windows. On at least three occasions I've lost some of my working documents in the process of rebooting. When I log out the Open Office Documents are open, but when I log on they are nowhere to be found, not in my Trash or in the place where I saved them last. I save frequently, so it is not an issue of losing the document because I never saved. Why would you leave ANY applications running when you log out? By logging out you kill those applications and any data that's in them...so yes, you would effectively loose the data (or document) that you're working on. You should always close/save applications/data prior to logging off... Once or twice when I started Open Office, the filename was displayed and I was asked if I wanted to restore the session or save it... I can't remember exactly, but I think I chose both the options at different times and each time the result was that the file dissappeared for good. Try looking in the ~/.openoffice/usr/temp directory - MAYBE your documents (the lost ones) are in there somewhere... stephen kuhn - owner == Shows How lost I can sometimes be: I thought one of the beauties of the Multiple desktops with Linux is that when I log-out, the desktop settings and programmes are saved and restored as they were when I log in for the next session. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Audio: Playing WMA (Windows Media Player) Files
Hi... Is there a way I can play the Windows Media Audio files on Linux? I've done a lot of ripping of CD's recently on Windows Media Player. Now my Linux XMMS player does not recognise this file format. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Audio: Playing WMA (Windows Media Player) Files
Apologies for Hi-jacking. I did not know. Now the question is how I set my computer to receive the e-mails in a threaded form. But I suppose nobody would be interested to explain how to do that in Outlook express, since I still don't have a working modem in linux. - Original Message - From: John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Audio: Playing WMA (Windows Media Player) Files On April 2, 2004 01:25 pm, Weiers Coetser wrote: Hi... Is there a way I can play the Windows Media Audio files on Linux? I've done a lot of ripping of CD's recently on Windows Media Player. Now my Linux XMMS player does not recognise this file format. Thanks Install MPlayer and stop hijacking threads :-) ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Copying Files from CDROM
I remember the superuser file manager in 9.1 and I did wonder what happened to it now that I've installed 9.2. I found it useful then. - Original Message - From: Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Copying Files from CDROM On Wednesday 10 March 2004 05:44, Marco Verheul wrote: I assume you use KDE: Menu - Applications - File tools - File manager - Super User Mode This will open Konqueror as root. Fill in your root password and off you go. ... and I'll assume you're running 9.1 or earlier, since that was dropped in 9.2 -- 05:14:48 up 3 days, 12:38, running Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Community) for i586, kernel 2.6.2-3mdk Registered Linux user #324360 Nachman's Rule: When it comes to foreign food, the less authentic the better. -- Gerald Nachman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Copying Files from CDROM
I apologize for perhaps continuing too long with the modem issue on this
thread, and if I don't get a response I'll post it seperately. At just about
the same time that I got your (Anne's) response I received on from support
at smartlink. Her response is: You need to install 'kernel-source' RPM
package from Mandrake ftp or mirrors and use this installation path:
('/usr/src/linux-,version./include') as KERNEL_INCLUDES value.
Since I am still uncertain:
Can I install this kernel source RPM package from my Linux Distro CD's?
What do I include for the version section? MDK9.2 ? or is it the specific
kernal source version?
Thank you.
- Original Message -
From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Copying Files from CDROM
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On Wednesday 10 March 2004 13:08, Weiers Coetser wrote:
Thank you Anne...
My modem is an Aztech smartlink - intenral PCI 56kb model MSP2900.
I thought it was a real modem because the CD that was issued come
with a linux tar.gz file for installation on Linux systems. It
seems that it is a Winmodem and I cannot get the driver compiled.
OK - I'm no expert on this. If what I say here doesn't fix it for
you, start a new thread with a more specific title. I've been very
busy and skipping some threads - many others will be as well, so you
need a thread specifically about installing a pci modem from a
supplied .tar.gz file.
The first place that I get problems is when give the following
commande: $ make
KERNEL_INCLUDES=/path/to/linux/include
Try changing that to KERNEL_INCLUDES=/usr/include
If that produces any different output, just copy it to the new message
in the new thread.
Anne
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Registered Linux User No.293302
Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet?
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Re: [newbie] Re: Re: Copying Files from CDROM
I've started downloading the linux 2.4.24 kernel in tar.bz2 format. I hope this is the right one. I see the latest stable one is 2.6.3. I went into the Linux Programme installer and found a number of files described as the Linux Kernel. I installed them, but suddenly my whole Linux installation is messed up. Sound driver does not work, file systems arn't mounting. It seems I'm going to have to re-install the whole business. I'll first try to install everything and specifically select these kernel files. If that does not work, I'll just do a default installation. Tomorrow I'm going to borrow a friend's external Mercer USB modem. If it works, I might considder saving up to buy my own. Question: how do I edit the Makefile file in my modem driver directory. I see there is a reference to the linux-kernel there, and in stead of typing $ make KERNEL_ path to root I could possibly put that path directly into the Makefile. I really thank you for your help on this akward problem. Any wisdom will do, and I am definitely learnign a lot. When I finally get it right, I will make sure that I help other people to do it as well. Greetings Weiers Johannesburg, South Africa - Original Message - From: Björn Lundin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:39 PM Subject: [newbie] Re: Re: Copying Files from CDROM Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 10 March 2004 17:11, Björn Lundin wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Can anyone give him the url for the kernel sources, so that he can use his windows box to download? wouldn't 'urpmi kernel-source' do? /Björn No - he can't get his modem installed without the source file, so he's having to use windows. Anne, what I meant was, the kernel source rpm's should be found on the distribution cd. Isn't that kernel source good for the purpose? A download location is http://www.kernel.org/ but i think its 40 Mb+ to download /Björn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing My modem with tar.gz driver CD
Hi Thanks again for the good advice.
Ok... I've tried again to install my modem driver: I got stuck shortly after
extracting the files from the tar.gz file. I try to give full details here:
I will be extremely grateful if somebody could tell me what I could do
differently to make it work.
I have an Aztech internal modem in my computer:
Model: MSP2900 56k PCI Modem
The installation cd has a linux tar.gz file in it: slmdm-2.7.14
I created a Modem directory in my home directory home/modem
Then I extracted all the files into that direcectory. So now my directory
structure is home/modem/slmdm-2.7.14
Files in that directory are:
amrmo_init.c
tax_init.c
mdm_params.c
slusb.modules-dist
amrmo.o
fax.o
mdm_sltty.c
slver
Changes
ekernel-ver.c
modem_driver.h
sysdep.c
COPYRIGHT
linux_compat.h
README
sysdep_linux.c
country.dat
Makefile
slamr.modules-dist
sysdep_pci.c
editme.c
mdm_init.c
slmdm.modules-dist
usb.o
FAQ
mdm.o
slmdm.spec
usb_st7554.c
I opened the console and for safety gave the 'su' command (It did not ask me
for a password because I did not register a system admin password when I
installed 9.2)
The readme file stated that I had to edit the Makefile to contain
KERNEL_INCLUDES=/path/to/linux/include
So I followed their suggestion and typed the following command in the
console terminal:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] slmdm-2.7.14]# make KERNEL_INCLUDES=/path/to/linux/include
The immediate response was four pages of commands, and because I am stil
typing this e-mail in Windows (because my modem is not installed in linux I
have to retype all the computer's responses here: will try to do so
accurately)
gcc-Wall - O3 - fomit-frame-poi8nter -
D_KERNERL_-DMODULE-DEXPORT_SYMTAB-I. -I/path/to/linux/include -
DMODVERSOINS -- include /path/to/linux/include/linux/modversions.h -o
amrmo_init.o-c amrmo_init.c
command line: 138586157:43120:
/path/to/linxu/include/llinux/modversions.h: No such file or directory
In file included from /usr/include/linux/prefetch.h:13,
from/user/include/linux/list.h:6,
from /usr/include/llinux/module.h:11,
from amrmo_init.c:47:
/usr/include/asm/processor.h:55 error: 'CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT'
undeclared here (not in a function)
/usr/include/asm/processor.h:55L errorL requested alignment is not a
constant
In file included from /usr/include/linux/moduel.h:297,
from amrmo_init.c:47:
/usr/include/linux/version.h:2:2 # error
+++
You should not include /usr/include/{linux,asm}/header files directly for
the compilation of kernel modules. glibc now uses kernel header files from
a well-defined working kernel version (as recommended by Linus Torvalds)
THese files are glibc internal and may not match the ?? currently runing
kernel. They should only be included via other sytem header files - user
space programs should not directly include linux/*.h or asm/*.h as
well. To build kernel modules please do the following: Have the kenel
sources installed Make sure that the symbolic link
/lib/moudules/uname -r/build exists and points to the matching kernel source
directory
Now coppy /boot/vmlinuz.version.h to
/lib/modules/uname-r/build/include/linux/version.h
When compiling make sure to use the folloiwng compiler option to use the
correct include files:
-l/lib/modules/uname-r/build/include instead of =l/usr/include/linux
Please udjust the Makefile accordingly.
IT seems as thought his message is repeated a few times and then it ends off
iwth
In file included from amrmo_init.c:53
linux_compat.h:55:40 : missing binary operator before toke (Repeated a few
times for different compat.h:77:40 etc.)
then:
amrmo:init.c: In fucntion 'amrmo_probeL
warning: implicit declaration of function 'pci_request_regions'
and warning : implicit declaration of cunction ' pci_dev_driver'
make: *** [amrmo_init.o] ERROR 1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] slmdm-2.7.14]#
PLEASE HELP! What do I do to get this driver compiled and installed at the
right place? I hope somebody can make sense of what I've typed above.
Thank you So much:
Weiers
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[newbie] Installing My modem with tar.gz driver CD
Hi again I really am still clueless. I do now have an internal pci Modem (MSP2900) which has an installation CD with drivers for Windows and a tar.gz driver for Linux. When I go to KDE's hardware set-up it shows the modem as well as my HP Scanner under an unknown section. How do I actually get the modem installed and working. Here I need some very basic education. I am very used to Microsoft's plug and play concepts and feel really lost because I cannot get the modem to work. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing My modem with tar.gz driver CD
Hi again I really am still clueless. I do now have an internal pci Modem (MSP2900) which has an installation CD with drivers for Windows and a tar.gz driver for Linux. When I go to KDE's hardware set-up it shows the modem as well as my HP Scanner under an unknown section. How do I actually get the modem installed and working. Here I need some very basic education. I am very used to Microsoft's plug and play concepts and feel really lost because I cannot get the modem to work. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Four Desktops
Interesting... I am still not sure if I am totally satisfied. I've been able to set the Taskbar at the bottom of the screen to be linked to specific desktops, but I am wondering about the icons on the desktop itself. Could I place icons or shortcuts on one desktop without them being visible on others? Thanks for all the good information. Weiers * In heaven all the interesting people are missing. Friedrich Nietzsche Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Four Desktops
Hi... This is my third request for assitance and I've appreciated the input that I've received every time. I don't know if the following scenario is a posible one: Lets say I've divided my work into four categories. I would like to use one of the four KDE desktops for each of these four categories. At the moment I find that when I place a folder on my desktop it shows up on all four the desktops. This gives my desktop a very cluttered feel and I don't really see the purpose of having four desktops in this case. The same is true when I open several programmes. If I opened Open Office Writer on Desktop one, I can still see the bar for that document at the bottom, even if I am on Desktop two. If I have six or seven documents open at the same time, I find it difficult to navigate my way between the documents. Is it possible to change a setting that each of the four desktops function almost independently. Eg. I can put all my MP3 files on Desktop 1 and run the MP3 Player from there. Then I place all my written documents on desktop two, and all my spreadsheets on desktop three. I hope my question makes sense. If it does not, can somebody please explain again why there are four desktops in KDE. Greetings Weiers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Four Desktops
Wow... Got an answer withing 3 minutes of posting the question! Thank you so much! I'll try it. - Original Message - From: Weiers Coetser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 9:55 PM Subject: [newbie] Four Desktops Hi... This is my third request for assitance and I've appreciated the input that I've received every time. I don't know if the following scenario is a posible one: Lets say I've divided my work into four categories. I would like to use one of the four KDE desktops for each of these four categories. At the moment I find that when I place a folder on my desktop it shows up on all four the desktops. This gives my desktop a very cluttered feel and I don't really see the purpose of having four desktops in this case. The same is true when I open several programmes. If I opened Open Office Writer on Desktop one, I can still see the bar for that document at the bottom, even if I am on Desktop two. If I have six or seven documents open at the same time, I find it difficult to navigate my way between the documents. Is it possible to change a setting that each of the four desktops function almost independently. Eg. I can put all my MP3 files on Desktop 1 and run the MP3 Player from there. Then I place all my written documents on desktop two, and all my spreadsheets on desktop three. I hope my question makes sense. If it does not, can somebody please explain again why there are four desktops in KDE. Greetings Weiers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Printing Problems HP 5L - Open Office Calc
Thanks: I Got it sorted out. I did not notice in the past that I actually had to click or double click on the HP 5L printer at the top in the printer manager window in order to access the jobs for that specific printer. I just took it for granted that since it is the only printer on my system, it would automatically show the jobs. My computer was set on the Generic Unix LPD Print System. I've now changed it to CUPS. Would it make a difference? Weiers On Monday 23 Feb 2004 22:25, Steve Kaufman wrote: Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 23 Feb 2004 20:52, Weiers Coetser wrote: Hi, I am as newbie as can be. I set up a sizeable spreadsheet with Open Office and neglected to toggle print selected sheet only option. Ended up printing 8 copies of the whole spreadsheet (11 sheets) = approximately 90 pages. I tried everything to try to stop the printjob. But it was not registered in the Print Manager. Swithched the computer off. Swithced the printer off. Rebooted into Win XP. The moment I returned to Linux the printer started printing. Questions: 1. How do I stop a printjob if I am not happy with it. 2. How do I set OpenOffice to only print the selected sheet by default, in stead of the whole document? Thanks. (I hope I did not hi-jack any threads. I did do a search of the archives, but did not find something that seems to answer this particular questions) There are lots of ways to manage print jobs. Assuming you are using KDE and CUPS :- In konqueror press the 'services' button in the tool bar dividing the pane. The left pane will then show 'Print System Browser' You can stop jobs in there. Derek, I don't understand this at all. I don't see a button dividing any pane. Help Well it depends on how your view options are set up in konq In this screenshot http://images.mandrakesoft.com/img/screenshots/90scr4.png notice the vertical row of icons in the divider between the left and right panes of konq? snip derek Steve -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Printing Problems HP 5L - Open Office Calc
Hi, I am as newbie as can be. I set up a sizeable spreadsheet with Open Office and neglected to toggle print selected sheet only option. Ended up printing 8 copies of the whole spreadsheet (11 sheets) = approximately 90 pages. I tried everything to try to stop the printjob. But it was not registered in the Print Manager. Swithched the computer off. Swithced the printer off. Rebooted into Win XP. The moment I returned to Linux the printer started printing. Questions: 1. How do I stop a printjob if I am not happy with it. 2. How do I set OpenOffice to only print the selected sheet by default, in stead of the whole document? Thanks. (I hope I did not hi-jack any threads. I did do a search of the archives, but did not find something that seems to answer this particular questions) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
