Re: [OT]: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which i s better:KDE or Gnome?]
On Wednesday 08 Jan 2003 11:58 pm, you wrote: This has gone far enough. Spitting insults at each other will change nothing. Anne Now I am wondering if you sent this message out to the others who initiated, and participated in this exchange, or to me alone ? Having read this, I checked back. It would appear that I sent it to you, although it was intended for the list. As has often been pointed out, setting a reply-to line frequently has this effect. I'm sorry that I have added to the confusion by not noticing that you had this set. I did not join a linux newbie list to be continually insulted at any and every opportunity. I did not appreciate the tone of the thread, or the messages. I think I made my points well, with minimal insults. I could have been much harsher rather easily, and certainly a lot quicker. I am still angry, and upset about this situation, and am considering moving on. That might be best for all parties. I would like to say two things, then I will not say any more on this subject, no matter how great the provocation. First, you are making a big mistake in reading attitudes. It has been pointed out more than once that not liking a country's politics and not liking the people of that country are not at all the same thing. Many of don't even like the politics of our own country, at least in some respects. I llike and respect individuals, though often have to make exceptions of politicians. 'nuff said. Second, do not let your upset over this make you do anything that is not right for you - we call it 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'. If Mandrake is right for you, continue here. Let the subject drop as something on which you will never get complete agreement, and concentrate on happier things. I hope I have made my position clear. I did not intend an attack on you, and am sorry that my mistake made you think I did. I do not want to get involved in this subject. My only post, other than this, was to try to defuse the situation by pointing out that serendipity sometimes overcomes all. It seems that this did not succeed either, so I'm firmly avoiding the subject. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [OT]: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which i s better:KDE or Gnome?]
One might just as easily ask if you joined a linux list or a politics list... ;o) On Tuesday 07 Jan 2003 4:29 am, Todd Franklin wrote: hmm. did u not see the OT in the subject line? Anthony Abby wrote: What does any of this crap have to do with Linux? Can you guys please take your political diatribes off to some private la la land? Thanks [...] -- Mum's the word. -- Miguel de Cervantes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [OT]: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which i s better:KDE or Gnome?]
On Tuesday 07 Jan 2003 H:10 am, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 19:33, Kesav Tadimeti wrote: On the other hand, I believe Bush is going to war in the hope that it will revive the economy. Preperations for the war will boost the defence industry, and when the war is over lots of contracts (notably petroleum ones) will go out to the US industry. I guess that is his solution to revive the economy. I wonder what made you folks vote Bush. Bush (and I am sure any other president) is doing his job, that is, to repay in kind the donations various companies give to the republicans and the democrats. [Kesav] What gets me is that the whole Iraq thing is over the oil. In fact, the Bush administration has already divided it up amongst the oil companies. [Kesav] (primarily american I'm sure) cheers... That sounds good to me. I've got a gas-lovin Camaro and could use some cheap oil. ;) Seriously, we've got our problems like any other country, and it's a wonderful thing to discus them. But if this war destroys just one terrorist supporter, I'll consider my tax money well spent. And if it destroys saddam, I may even consider voting for Bush. ~Brandon I think this would be a good point to end this thread, there are many who hold strong views about this subject and I fear that to continue to express them here could lead to a falling out of members. It goes without saying that it is a very emotive subject, many of us will have strong views which will differ widely dependant upon such factors as country of residence, political persuasion, religious belief etc. Let's remember that the members of this list are spread around the globe with the common aim of helping other Mandrake users and promoting Mandrake generally, so let's not spoil it by expressing political opinions which are of no relevance to this list and could concievably lead to alienation of valued members. -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [OT]: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which i s better:KDE or Gnome?]
OOooHhhh! Good word! Emotive! Haven't heard that one in a long time! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/7/2003 at 2:07 PM Poogle wrote: On Tuesday 07 Jan 2003 H:10 am, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 19:33, Kesav Tadimeti wrote: On the other hand, I believe Bush is going to war in the hope that it will revive the economy. Preperations for the war will boost the defence industry, and when the war is over lots of contracts (notably petroleum ones) will go out to the US industry. I guess that is his solution to revive the economy. I wonder what made you folks vote Bush. Bush (and I am sure any other president) is doing his job, that is, to repay in kind the donations various companies give to the republicans and the democrats. [Kesav] What gets me is that the whole Iraq thing is over the oil. In fact, the Bush administration has already divided it up amongst the oil companies. [Kesav] (primarily american I'm sure) cheers... That sounds good to me. I've got a gas-lovin Camaro and could use some cheap oil. ;) Seriously, we've got our problems like any other country, and it's a wonderful thing to discus them. But if this war destroys just one terrorist supporter, I'll consider my tax money well spent. And if it destroys saddam, I may even consider voting for Bush. ~Brandon I think this would be a good point to end this thread, there are many who hold strong views about this subject and I fear that to continue to express them here could lead to a falling out of members. It goes without saying that it is a very emotive subject, many of us will have strong views which will differ widely dependant upon such factors as country of residence, political persuasion, religious belief etc. Let's remember that the members of this list are spread around the globe with the common aim of helping other Mandrake users and promoting Mandrake generally, so let's not spoil it by expressing political opinions which are of no relevance to this list and could concievably lead to alienation of valued members. -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Dan LaBine President Maximum Lans [EMAIL PROTECTED] (514) 489-7825 6915 Fielding Ave. Suite # 228 Montreal, Quebec, H4V 1P4 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [OT]: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which i s better:KDE or Gnome?]
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 09:21 am, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Well said. Now, if I can just get my wine/counter-strike stuff working, I can get back to fighting terrorism instead of reading/writing about it here. ;) Have a good one, ~Brandon I love Half-Life here under WineX - I've not tried CounterStrike yet. I've got all of them though, bought them in a all in one pack. I watched the intro to CounterStrike on my sons' dual-booting computer. It looked fun. :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [OT]: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which i s better:KDE or Gnome?]
At 06:21 AM 1/7/2003 -0800, you wrote: I think this would be a good point to end this thread, there are many who hold strong views about this subject and I fear that to continue to express them here could lead to a falling out of members. It goes without saying that it is a very emotive subject, many of us will have strong views which will differ widely dependant upon such factors as country of residence, political persuasion, religious belief etc. Let's remember that the members of this list are spread around the globe with the common aim of helping other Mandrake users and promoting Mandrake generally, so let's not spoil it by expressing political opinions which are of no relevance to this list and could concievably lead to alienation of valued members. -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Well said. Now, if I can just get my wine/counter-strike stuff working, I can get back to fighting terrorism instead of reading/writing about it here. ;) Have a good one, ~Brandon Laffs, Poogle always has something good to say. I agree with ya Brandon, though I prefer something more fun like WarCraft 3 where the enemy is more easily discerned by the Rush of attackers flooding my way while they annihilate my forces! :) - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [OT]: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which i s better:KDE or Gnome?]
~Brandon I think this would be a good point to end this thread, there are many who hold strong views about this subject and I fear that to continue to express them here could lead to a falling out of members. Yeah, Count me as one. It goes without saying that it is a very emotive subject, many of us will have strong views which will differ widely dependant upon such factors as country of residence, political persuasion, religious belief etc. Let's remember that the members of this list are spread around the globe with the common aim of helping other Mandrake users and promoting Mandrake generally, so let's not spoil it by expressing political opinions which are of no relevance to this list and could concievably lead to alienation of valued members. I'm probably not considered a valuable member, But I'm considering becoming a new member of the Red Hat Group. I've had my fill of this cryfest bullshit, This I can get from the Media. We'll see where it goes from here. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [OT]: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which i s better:KDE or Gnome?]
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 07:07 pm, Robin Turner wrote: Dennis Sue wrote: ~Brandon I think this would be a good point to end this thread, there are many who hold strong views about this subject and I fear that to continue to express them here could lead to a falling out of members. Yeah, Count me as one. As someone who recently insulted the religion of about 25% of the planet, that is rich. I was struck, BEFORE I struck . Kind of how Americans are, Kind, Patient, Generous,and Tolerant, To a point. then we stand up for what we believe in. If necessary, we put our lives on the line. We don't scurry away hoping someone else will do it for us . We're not cowards. We don't target civilians, We don't place them in harm's way, and we don't use them for shields. Read up a bit about your 25%'s beliefs sport, Something other than the drivel you get from the media. I'm probably not considered a valuable member, But I'm considering becoming a new member of the Red Hat Group. I've had my fill of this cryfest bullshit, This I can get from the Media. We'll see where it goes from here. Interesting - you are considering changing your distro because some people have opinions you don't like? Oh no, differing opinions don't bother me, Being insulted begins to get old rather quickly. Don't bother - I'm sure there are bleeding-heart liberals on the RedHat list as well. Didn't you wonder why the hat was red? Gosh no, I honestly never wondered why the hat was red. Do you suppose it's because they love liberal sobfests as well ? Do you suppose their mailing lists are infected with liberal whine a thons ? Do you suppose they would be profitable if that were the case ? Liberalism doesn't sell, Nobody buys into it. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [OT]: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which i s better:KDE or Gnome?]
America has lots of friends around the world...Liberal media elites only focus on disent... Appeasement of Hitler did not workNever has, never will. The only enemies America has are enemies of liberty and freedom, and we have always had lots of them, even right here...Only 1/3 of the original population wanted to be independent...It took lots of famous Christians like Patrick Henry saying give me liberty, or give me dealth... and Samuel Adams, who lived in relative poverty to promote the cause of freedom... Keith On Tuesday 07 January 2003 05:08 pm, Dennis Sue wrote: ~Brandon I think this would be a good point to end this thread, there are many who hold strong views about this subject and I fear that to continue to express them here could lead to a falling out of members. Yeah, Count me as one. It goes without saying that it is a very emotive subject, many of us will have strong views which will differ widely dependant upon such factors as country of residence, political persuasion, religious belief etc. Let's remember that the members of this list are spread around the globe with the common aim of helping other Mandrake users and promoting Mandrake generally, so let's not spoil it by expressing political opinions which are of no relevance to this list and could concievably lead to alienation of valued members. I'm probably not considered a valuable member, But I'm considering becoming a new member of the Red Hat Group. I've had my fill of this cryfest bullshit, This I can get from the Media. We'll see where it goes from here. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [OT]: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which i s better:KDE or Gnome?]
The only enemies America has are enemies of liberty and freedom, and we Ummm.. errr ok. Damian (I'm not getting into this.) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [OT]: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which i s better:KDE or Gnome?]
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 06:56 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote: The only enemies America has are enemies of liberty and freedom, and we Ummm.. errr ok. Damian (I'm not getting into this.) Damian: I'm with you. We can debate less filling vs great taste. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
