Re: [newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
me too... On Thursday 19 September 2002 03:00 pm, Damian G wrote: > > Am I the only one this is happening to? > > no. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
On Thursday 19 September 2002 7:14 pm, Frans Ketelaars wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:53:10 +0100 > > John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Charlie M. wrote: > > >I'm getting "Nondeliverable message" notices from: > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >every time I send a message to this list. I don't recall ever sending > > > anything direct to this person and if they don't choose to read my > > > messages that's fine. This seems to say there is no such address > > > though. > > > > > >Am I the only one this is happening to? > > > > > >This is all I get back: > > > > > >--Transcript of session follows --- > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >The system cannot find the path specified. > > > > > >plus my messages returned as attachments. Both messages from today were > > > posted and I don't have a reply to address specified in this mail > > > client so why do I get this direct if the message is undeliverable? > > > Shouldn't this be going to sympa? > > > > I have had this problem for some time, and it has only ever occured > > in regard to newbie listings.Now I subscribe to other lists and messages > > to them do not have this problem, I therefore suspect some of these > > postfix, sendmail, and spam assassins are working overtime.somewhere. > > John > > > > -- > > John Richard Smith > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > So, [EMAIL PROTECTED] , do you really exist? (in cyberspace atm I > mean) > > Thanks, > > -Frans Maybe not. It's somehow all my fault. A figment of my imagination. I may not be responsible, but it's my fault. Whatever it is. Just ask my ex. :-) -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife in the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
On Thursday 19 September 2002 6:33 pm, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: > Hi. > >> On Thu 2002-09-19 at 14:24:28 -0600, Charlie M. wrote: > > Just to make that clear, if it was not by now: The reason of such > bounces is that the configuration of the MDA (the local delivery > machine) of a subscriber, i.e. the recipient (or its ISP) is broken. > > The trigger for such bounces may have any reason. I have seen full > mailboxes, deleted accounts, misconfigured firewall, misconfigured DNS > entries, whatever. > > Normally you do not see such bounces, because the mandrake server is > the sender (via the mailing list) and as such should receive such > bounces. Due to some misconfiguration the receiving machine decided to > bounce to the wrong address, namely the "From:" instead of "Sender:" > and that's why people get these annoying messages. At least, AFAIK. ;) > > Have fun, > > Benjamin. Thanks Benjamin! Insatiable curiosity somewhat ameliorated for the present. The fact that knowledgeable people answer my silly questions/complaints on these mailing lists is just another reason I am so devoted to Mandrake. :-) The addictive nature of v9.0 so far may be another. -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Life -- Love It or Leave It. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:53:10 +0100 John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Charlie M. wrote: > > >I'm getting "Nondeliverable message" notices from: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >every time I send a message to this list. I don't recall ever sending anything > >direct to this person and if they don't choose to read my messages that's > >fine. This seems to say there is no such address though. > > > >Am I the only one this is happening to? > > > >This is all I get back: > > > >--Transcript of session follows --- > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >The system cannot find the path specified. > > > >plus my messages returned as attachments. Both messages from today were posted > >and I don't have a reply to address specified in this mail client so why do I > >get this direct if the message is undeliverable? Shouldn't this be going to > >sympa? > > > > > > > > > > > I have had this problem for some time, and it has only ever occured > in regard to newbie listings.Now I subscribe to other lists and messages > to them do not have this problem, I therefore suspect some of these > postfix, sendmail, and spam assassins are working overtime.somewhere. > John > > -- > John Richard Smith > [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, [EMAIL PROTECTED] , do you really exist? (in cyberspace atm I mean) Thanks, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
On Thursday 19 September 2002 2:16 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > We had this before, with a different address. I think the explanation was > that someone had subscribed with an address covered by a firewall/company > postserver, or some such, which was rejecting his copy of the posts, > resulting in the sender getting his copy bounced. After a week or so the > offending name must have been struck off, because the problem stopped. > > Anne Hi Anne; I spoke too soon, I get it no matter which list I post to. I remember the last time this was going on was also the only time this e-mail account ever got spammed. I wonder.. :-( Let's hope the address is taken off the mailing list subscribers by Mandrake now that I see others complaining about it on cooker. -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org "Anyone attempting to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin." -- John Von Neumann Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
I plead insanity. Or temporary cranial cloud burst. I wasn't paying attention, sorry. Mine weren't redirected through hotmail though. There's definitely weirdness happening though. Thanks Bob. Charlie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
Charlie M. wrote: >I'm getting "Nondeliverable message" notices from: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >every time I send a message to this list. I don't recall ever sending anything >direct to this person and if they don't choose to read my messages that's >fine. This seems to say there is no such address though. > >Am I the only one this is happening to? > >This is all I get back: > >--Transcript of session follows --- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >The system cannot find the path specified. > >plus my messages returned as attachments. Both messages from today were posted >and I don't have a reply to address specified in this mail client so why do I >get this direct if the message is undeliverable? Shouldn't this be going to >sympa? > > > > > I have had this problem for some time, and it has only ever occured in regard to newbie listings.Now I subscribe to other lists and messages to them do not have this problem, I therefore suspect some of these postfix, sendmail, and spam assassins are working overtime.somewhere. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
"Charlie M." wrote: > > On Thursday 19 September 2002 2:07 pm, Bob Read wrote: > > Of course, I noted that the "reply to" address has also been changed > > to a "hotmail" address. As in MSNhotmail. Do you suppose. . . > > No, that couldn't be. ;-} > > Hotmail? I just looked at the headers for the one I just received 'cause I > sent the original "whine" to the list. It's from hetnet.nl wherever and > whoever they are. :-) > Charlie, the ones returned to me from the netherlands showed that they had been sent by me to an address in the NL, but that my mail showed a Reply To address at hotmail. In other words, my post to Newbie had the header changed to a different addressee and showing a Hotmail "Reply to" address. If the post had gone out to the list and bounced from a list member, it should have had Newbie as the Reply To address. Weird! ??? Bob -- Bob Read http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/b/e/bestill.htm Soli Deo Gloria-Solus Christus-Sola Gratia-Sola Fide-Sola Scriptura The Church of The Master [Baptist] Providence, Rhode Island http://users.ids.net/~bobread/cotm.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
On Thursday 19 September 2002 2:07 pm, Bob Read wrote: > Of course, I noted that the "reply to" address has also been changed > to a "hotmail" address. As in MSNhotmail. Do you suppose. . . > No, that couldn't be. ;-} > > > > - > Bob Read > http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/b/e/bestill.htm > > Soli Deo Gloria-Solus Christus-Sola Gratia-Sola Fide-Sola Scriptura > > The Church of The Master [Baptist] > Providence, Rhode Island > http://users.ids.net/~bobread/cotm.htm Hotmail? I just looked at the headers for the one I just received 'cause I sent the original "whine" to the list. It's from hetnet.nl wherever and whoever they are. :-) This address is the only one I've ever used for the Mandrake mail lists. It's the busiest of the 5. Especially subscribed to cooker lately. :-) -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org It's better to burn out than it is to rust. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
On Thursday 19 Sep 2002 9:06 pm, you wrote: > On Thursday 19 September 2002 1:58 pm, Bob Read wrote: > > No, you aren't the only one. It has been happening to me as well. > > I see this one got thru though. > > > > This must be a problem at Mandrake. I have forwarded one to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and included a backround note. > > > > Maybe someone on this list has a more direct connection? > > Of course I don't know if this one will get through, > > > > Bob > > I think I didn't make myself clear Bob. My messages get to the list most of > the time but I was getting those notices directly from an ISP's (hetnet) > postmaster application in the Netherlands. Someone must have subscribed > with a bogus address or something. > > I see it was reported on the cooker list too. Maybe it's handled now since > the last message didn't trigger that stuff. > > Thanks. We had this before, with a different address. I think the explanation was that someone had subscribed with an address covered by a firewall/company postserver, or some such, which was rejecting his copy of the posts, resulting in the sender getting his copy bounced. After a week or so the offending name must have been struck off, because the problem stopped. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
Of course, I noted that the "reply to" address has also been changed to a "hotmail" address. As in MSNhotmail. Do you suppose. . . No, that couldn't be. ;-} - Bob Read http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/b/e/bestill.htm Soli Deo Gloria-Solus Christus-Sola Gratia-Sola Fide-Sola Scriptura The Church of The Master [Baptist] Providence, Rhode Island http://users.ids.net/~bobread/cotm.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
On Thursday 19 September 2002 1:58 pm, Bob Read wrote: > No, you aren't the only one. It has been happening to me as well. > I see this one got thru though. > > This must be a problem at Mandrake. I have forwarded one to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and included a backround note. > > Maybe someone on this list has a more direct connection? > Of course I don't know if this one will get through, > > Bob I think I didn't make myself clear Bob. My messages get to the list most of the time but I was getting those notices directly from an ISP's (hetnet) postmaster application in the Netherlands. Someone must have subscribed with a bogus address or something. I see it was reported on the cooker list too. Maybe it's handled now since the last message didn't trigger that stuff. Thanks. -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org "Let's show this prehistoric bitch how we do things downtown!" -- The Ghostbusters Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
No, you aren't the only one. It has been happening to me as well. I see this one got thru though. This must be a problem at Mandrake. I have forwarded one to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and included a backround note. Maybe someone on this list has a more direct connection? Of course I don't know if this one will get through, Bob "Charlie M." wrote: > > I'm getting "Nondeliverable message" notices from: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > every time I send a message to this list. I don't recall ever sending anything > direct to this person and if they don't choose to read my messages that's > fine. This seems to say there is no such address though. > > Am I the only one this is happening to? > > This is all I get back: > > --Transcript of session follows --- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The system cannot find the path specified. > > plus my messages returned as attachments. Both messages from today were posted > and I don't have a reply to address specified in this mail client so why do I > get this direct if the message is undeliverable? Shouldn't this be going to > sympa? > -- > Charlie > Edmonton,AB,Canada > Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org > I'm sorry, but my karma just ran over your dogma. > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Bob Read http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/b/e/bestill.htm Soli Deo Gloria-Solus Christus-Sola Gratia-Sola Fide-Sola Scriptura The Church of The Master [Baptist] Providence, Rhode Island http://users.ids.net/~bobread/cotm.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
> Am I the only one this is happening to? no. -- boot into windows? what has smashing glass with footwear got to do with Operating systems? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] [OT]"Nondeliverable messages?"
I'm getting "Nondeliverable message" notices from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] every time I send a message to this list. I don't recall ever sending anything direct to this person and if they don't choose to read my messages that's fine. This seems to say there is no such address though. Am I the only one this is happening to? This is all I get back: --Transcript of session follows --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] The system cannot find the path specified. plus my messages returned as attachments. Both messages from today were posted and I don't have a reply to address specified in this mail client so why do I get this direct if the message is undeliverable? Shouldn't this be going to sympa? -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org I'm sorry, but my karma just ran over your dogma. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
