Re: [newbie] 7.2 install Malfunction on partition

2000-11-22 Thread Oliver L. Plaine Jr.

On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:54:13 -0800, Alan S wrote:

OllyI can think offhand of two basic approaches.

One would be to boot up on your other Linux system, login as 
root and use fdisk to delete partition 4 and then log out and 
reboot with the installation CD and let it do the 
partitioning automatically telling it to use the 
unpartitioned area of the drive at the proper time.

The other also would be to boot up on your other Linux 
system, login as root and this time to use fdisk to add the 
partitions inside partition 4 and then log out and reboot 
with the installation CD.  Then boot up with the installation 
CD and when it asks, assign the mount points yourself.
-- 
Alan
--
Wed, 22 Nov 2000  02:13:12

Both logical solutions Alan, but my other system is in a old P-166
across the room (no lan 8-) .and my Tom's rootboot is too old for Mdk
7.2...but I think I am over...

Here is the saga, long and plaintive... I started with a 2g
fat16 with W95 newly on, a brand new 20 gig Ibm Deskstar..working
well, even the PCI modem...the rest of the disc" Bare".

I started the MDK 7.2 install and rapidly  arrived at "expert"
Disc partitioning ...I made another 2gig fat and then a 30m Linux boot
and the forth primary went to an extended linux partition for the rest
of the disc...

For some reason? I stuck in a floppy and hit the "write table
to backup" button (or similar)...man I am so glad I did, because this
install was spiraling out of control,I would have been in the same
condition as Pauls install.. but for that floppy I would have lost
the table. A normal person would have waited until the table was
complete to back it up?

After I tried to put linux partitions on the extended, nothing
worked as advertised ..it would accept one and then overwrite it
then it would give the old "proceed at your own risk" error that
Paul mentioned as he lost his.then the whole install froze
tight...
I was compelled to hit reset and boot back to the CD-Rom, work
forward to the part table, and then recover from the floppy... back to
the extended partition like clockwork

I tried every way even putting swap 1st in the extended? after
rebooting several more times ( love that floppy)...I decided to do a
delete on the extended and run the wizard.well that worked OK and
KDE sits before me in nice color

In summery, I will say I am not happy with the fact that I
have no separate Var and home, and all the other things I like to do
with partitions...I sadly miss the  Fdisk option of Helios 6.1 and
doubt that I will be able to live without a separate home at the
minimum...I wish they would have given me an option to choose Fdisk.

I will mail these discs to Australia tomorrow, but I plan to
get another pair... Next time, I shall use the Fdisk from my 6.1 to
rig the Deskstar and then start the 7.2 install on a completed table.

Thank you for your good suggestions Alan, in my moment of
panic...it was a good fight til three o clock in the morning ,. I
half way won grin.

Pardon my arrogance in using a "Expert install" 8-)

Thanks again
Olly P
Biloxi
Mississippi
PS..it took 45 min to suck both disks with the wizard, a total
"development" should be there.





Re: [newbie] 7.2 install Malfunction on partition(Correction)

2000-11-22 Thread Oliver L. Plaine Jr.

On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:11:34 -0600, I wrote:


   In summery, I will say I am not happy with the fact that I
have no separate Var and home, and all the other things I like to do
with partitions...I sadly miss the  Fdisk option of Helios 6.1 and
doubt that I will be able to live without a separate home at the
minimum...I wish they would have given me an option to choose Fdisk.
---
Wed, 22 Nov 2000  05:58:59

Now that I have looked at this install I see that I was wrong about
the above statement...the Home is in a separate partition on the
wizard installI would have done some of it different...however
what I said was incorrect.   Long night  grin.

Olly P




Re: [newbie] 7.2 install Malfunction on partition(Correction)

2000-11-22 Thread skidley

On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Oliver L. Plaine Jr. wrote:

 On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:11:34 -0600, I wrote:
 
 
  In summery, I will say I am not happy with the fact that I
 have no separate Var and home, and all the other things I like to do
 with partitions...I sadly miss the  Fdisk option of Helios 6.1 and
 doubt that I will be able to live without a separate home at the
 minimum...I wish they would have given me an option to choose Fdisk.
 ---
 Wed, 22 Nov 2000  05:58:59
 
 Now that I have looked at this install I see that I was wrong about
 the above statement...the Home is in a separate partition on the
 wizard installI would have done some of it different...however
 what I said was incorrect.   Long night  grin.
 
 Olly P
 
 
 
You can create the partitons you want with the diskdrake in intsall, its
very eaay to use graphical partition tool if ya ask me. but fdisk is btter
of you like commandline partitioning tools instead 

-- 
Chad Y.
Registered Linux User #195191





Re: [newbie] 7.2 install Malfunction on partition

2000-11-22 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Oliver L. Plaine Jr. wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:54:13 -0800, Alan S wrote:
 OllyI can think offhand of two basic approaches.
 
 One would be to boot up on your other Linux system, login
  as root and use fdisk to delete partition 4 and then log
  out and reboot with the installation CD and let it do the
  partitioning automatically telling it to use the
 unpartitioned area of the drive at the proper time.
 
 The other also would be to boot up on your other Linux
 system, login as root and this time to use fdisk to add
  the partitions inside partition 4 and then log out and
  reboot with the installation CD.  Then boot up with the
  installation CD and when it asks, assign the mount points
  yourself. --
 Alan

 --
 Wed, 22 Nov 2000  02:13:12

 Both logical solutions Alan, but my other system is in a
 old P-166 across the room (no lan 8-) .and my Tom's
 rootboot is too old for Mdk 7.2...but I think I am
 over...

   Here is the saga, long and plaintive... I started with a
 2g fat16 with W95 newly on, a brand new 20 gig Ibm
 Deskstar..working well, even the PCI modem...the rest of
 the disc" Bare".

   I started the MDK 7.2 install and rapidly  arrived at
 "expert" Disc partitioning ...I made another 2gig fat and
 then a 30m Linux boot and the forth primary went to an
 extended linux partition for the rest of the disc...

   For some reason? I stuck in a floppy and hit the "write
 table to backup" button (or similar)...man I am so glad I
 did, because this install was spiraling out of control,I
 would have been in the same condition as Pauls
 install.. but for that floppy I would have lost the
 table. A normal person would have waited until the table
 was complete to back it up?

   After I tried to put linux partitions on the extended,
 nothing worked as advertised ..it would accept one and then
 overwrite it .then it would give the old "proceed at
 your own risk" error that Paul mentioned as he lost
 his.then the whole install froze tight...
   I was compelled to hit reset and boot back to the CD-Rom,
 work forward to the part table, and then recover from the
 floppy... back to the extended partition like clockwork

   I tried every way even putting swap 1st in the extended?
 after rebooting several more times ( love that floppy)...I
 decided to do a delete on the extended and run the
 wizard.well that worked OK and KDE sits before me in
 nice color

   In summery, I will say I am not happy with the fact that I
 have no separate Var and home, and all the other things I
 like to do with partitions...I sadly miss the  Fdisk option
 of Helios 6.1 and doubt that I will be able to live without
 a separate home at the minimum...I wish they would have
 given me an option to choose Fdisk.

   I will mail these discs to Australia tomorrow, but I plan
 to get another pair... Next time, I shall use the Fdisk
 from my 6.1 to rig the Deskstar and then start the 7.2
 install on a completed table.

   Thank you for your good suggestions Alan, in my moment of
 panic...it was a good fight til three o clock in the
 morning ,. I half way won grin.

 Pardon my arrogance in using a "Expert install" 8-)

 Thanks again
 Olly P
 Biloxi
 Mississippi
 PS..it took 45 min to suck both disks with the wizard,
 a total "development" should be there.

Ollysorry, I misread your original message and thought 
that you said that you had a previous version of Linux active 
on your computer.  That was the 'other Linux system' to which 
I was referring.  However, instead you could use the rescue 
capabilities of your installation CD (or tomsrtbt) to do the 
same things I already suggested
-- 
Alan




[newbie] 7.2 install Malfunction on partition

2000-11-21 Thread Oliver L. Plaine Jr.

Tue, 21 Nov 2000  19:45:50

I am sitting here in trouble with my penguin,

While preforming a MDK 7.2 expert installation (Hey,..no
smirking) 8-) I cannot make anything go into the Linux extended
partition with this installer?

I have a 2g dos on hda primary 1...and another on primary
2...primary 3 is a 30m linux boot

I made primary 4 a Linux  extended to the end of the 20g IBM
deskstar..all seems OK.

I have clicked that installer to death but it will not allow
me to put the rest of the partitions into the extended? just ...nobody
home...it is not frozen or locked, it just will not open a panel for
the next partition in the extended. Type linux extended partition
0x85...that is the correct type?   right?.

This is the touchey part of the install and I really don't
want to destroy the table...but if someone would suggest an area to
apply some force, I will tap it a little?

Waiting for you
Olly P
Biloxi




Re: [newbie] 7.2 install Malfunction on partition

2000-11-21 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Oliver L. Plaine Jr. wrote:
 Tue, 21 Nov 2000  19:45:50

 I am sitting here in trouble with my penguin,

   While preforming a MDK 7.2 expert installation (Hey,..no
 smirking) 8-) I cannot make anything go into the Linux
 extended partition with this installer?

   I have a 2g dos on hda primary 1...and another on primary
 2...primary 3 is a 30m linux boot

   I made primary 4 a Linux  extended to the end of the 20g
 IBM deskstar..all seems OK.

   I have clicked that installer to death but it will not
 allow me to put the rest of the partitions into the
 extended? just ...nobody home...it is not frozen or locked,
 it just will not open a panel for the next partition in the
 extended. Type linux extended partition 0x85...that is the
 correct type?   right?.

   This is the touchey part of the install and I really don't
 want to destroy the table...but if someone would suggest an
 area to apply some force, I will tap it a little?

 Waiting for you
 Olly P
 Biloxi

OllyI can think offhand of two basic approaches.

One would be to boot up on your other Linux system, login as 
root and use fdisk to delete partition 4 and then log out and 
reboot with the installation CD and let it do the 
partitioning automatically telling it to use the 
unpartitioned area of the drive at the proper time.

The other also would be to boot up on your other Linux 
system, login as root and this time to use fdisk to add the 
partitions inside partition 4 and then log out and reboot 
with the installation CD.  Then boot up with the installation 
CD and when it asks, assign the mount points yourself.
-- 
Alan