Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 06:45:25 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: -rw-rw-r-- 1 hoyt hoyt 6355292 Sep 19 20:16 btmgr-web.tar.gz Thats what I got where am I going wrong. Looks like you *did* download the whole site...gzipped. What's inside? -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 09:34:54 up 47 days, 9:21, 7 users, load average: 0.15, 0.22, 0.12 +++ When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Monday 20 September 2004 08:35, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 06:45:25 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: -rw-rw-r-- 1 hoyt hoyt 6355292 Sep 19 20:16 btmgr-web.tar.gz Thats what I got where am I going wrong. Looks like you *did* download the whole site...gzipped. What's inside? 156 files @ 7.1 MB. Lots of screenshots. Lots of Docs and btmgr-3.7.1 in rpm, src.rpm, tar.gz. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Monday 20 September 2004 16:30, Hoyt Bailey wrote: 156 files @ 7.1 MB. Lots of screenshots. Lots of Docs and btmgr-3.7.1 in rpm, src.rpm, tar.gz. So, say in a day or so, you'll be our expert on btmgr heh;) Iirc there's a way of just writing/coppying btmgr to mbr i.e. that's actually all the rpm and the .exe do. Nifty little gadget:) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Monday 20 September 2004 09:39, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Monday 20 September 2004 16:30, Hoyt Bailey wrote: 156 files @ 7.1 MB. Lots of screenshots. Lots of Docs and btmgr-3.7.1 in rpm, src.rpm, tar.gz. So, say in a day or so, you'll be our expert on btmgr heh;) Iirc there's a way of just writing/coppying btmgr to mbr i.e. that's actually all the rpm and the .exe do. Nifty little gadget:) -- Good luck, HarM I doubt I'll get to it for a while, other considerations. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Monday 20 September 2004 16:47, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I doubt I'll get to it for a while, other considerations. C'mon, can't let a 6Mb download go to waste:) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Monday 20 September 2004 11:32, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Monday 20 September 2004 16:47, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I doubt I'll get to it for a while, other considerations. C'mon, can't let a 6Mb download go to waste:) -- Good luck, HarM I had no intention of letting it go to waste, but there are other things. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
Hey all, Tryin' to do an install of MDK 10.0 Official on an old box I got my mitts on, and it won't boot from the CD. I created a boot floppy with the cdrom.img, but when I try to start the install I get 'No CDROM device found', and when I hit 'Ok', it tells me to insert the 'Additional Drivers floppy'. I can see nothing in the INSTALL or README about this, except for network drivers to do a net install, and no images that fit this description in the /Images dir on the CD. Help? -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 14:53:46 up 46 days, 14:40, 6 users, load average: 0.12, 0.09, 0.02 +++ There are literally several levels of SCO being wrong. And even if we were to live in that alternate universe where SCO would be right, they'd still be wrong. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 22:00, JoeHill wrote: Hey all, Tryin' to do an install of MDK 10.0 Official on an old box I got my mitts on, and it won't boot from the CD. I created a boot floppy with the cdrom.img, but when I try to start the install I get 'No CDROM device found', and when I hit 'Ok', it tells me to insert the 'Additional Drivers floppy'. I can see nothing in the INSTALL or README about this, except for network drivers to do a net install, and no images that fit this description in the /Images dir on the CD. Help? How Old? Is there any possibility that its a non-ATAPI CD in the box (old Dolphin, etc)? -- pm Laws alone can not secure freedom of expression; in order that every man present his views without penalty there must be spirit of tolerance in the entire population. Albert Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Sunday 19 September 2004 14:00, JoeHill wrote: Hey all, Tryin' to do an install of MDK 10.0 Official on an old box I got my mitts on, and it won't boot from the CD. I created a boot floppy with the cdrom.img, but when I try to start the install I get 'No CDROM device found', and when I hit 'Ok', it tells me to insert the 'Additional Drivers floppy'. I can see nothing in the INSTALL or README about this, except for network drivers to do a net install, and no images that fit this description in the /Images dir on the CD. Help? You probably need a driver for the CD ROM in order to read the CD. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:04:04 +0300 PM disseminated the following: Hey all, Tryin' to do an install of MDK 10.0 Official on an old box I got my mitts on, and it won't boot from the CD. I created a boot floppy with the cdrom.img, but when I try to start the install I get 'No CDROM device found', and when I hit 'Ok', it tells me to insert the 'Additional Drivers floppy'. I can see nothing in the INSTALL or README about this, except for network drivers to do a net install, and no images that fit this description in the /Images dir on the CD. Help? How Old? Is there any possibility that its a non-ATAPI CD in the box (old Dolphin, etc)? Well, it's pretty old, but it's from another box which I had installed MDK on before, though that was 9.2 (IIRC). This machine, however, does not allow for booting from the CD :-(. One thing I should have mentioned, if I boot from a Win98 floppy (one of the few useful things to come out of MS), it detects the CDROM and I can read from the drive. Unfortunately, this does me no good as the MDK CD doesn't appear to have any 'setup' or 'install' scripts I can run to get things going. Any idea what this 'Additional Drivers floppy' is, and/or where I can get it? -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 15:43:39 up 46 days, 15:30, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 +++ If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. -- Noam Chomsky Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Sunday 19 September 2004 21:49, JoeHill wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:04:04 +0300 Well, it's pretty old, but it's from another box which I had installed MDK on before, though that was 9.2 (IIRC). This machine, however, does not allow for booting from the CD :-(. One thing I should have mentioned, if I boot from a Win98 floppy (one of the few useful things to come out of MS), it detects the CDROM and I can read from the drive. Unfortunately, this does me no good as the MDK CD doesn't appear to have any 'setup' or 'install' scripts I can run to get things going. Any idea what this 'Additional Drivers floppy' is, and/or where I can get it? Joe, Did you ever try a floppy with smartbootmanager? It comes on the slackware install CD's and works on the most improbable of boot devices. I've had some good experiences with it. There's even a smboot.exe to be found somewhere on the web if you're realy desparate;) Good luck, HarM (back again;)) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 22:49, JoeHill wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:04:04 +0300 PM disseminated the following: Hey all, Tryin' to do an install of MDK 10.0 Official on an old box I got my mitts on, and it won't boot from the CD. I created a boot floppy with the cdrom.img, but when I try to start the install I get 'No CDROM device found', and when I hit 'Ok', it tells me to insert the 'Additional Drivers floppy'. I can see nothing in the INSTALL or README about this, except for network drivers to do a net install, and no images that fit this description in the /Images dir on the CD. Help? How Old? Is there any possibility that its a non-ATAPI CD in the box (old Dolphin, etc)? Well, it's pretty old, but it's from another box which I had installed MDK on before, though that was 9.2 (IIRC). This machine, however, does not allow for booting from the CD :-(. One thing I should have mentioned, if I boot from a Win98 floppy (one of the few useful things to come out of MS), it detects the CDROM and I can read from the drive. Unfortunately, this does me no good as the MDK CD doesn't appear to have any 'setup' or 'install' scripts I can run to get things going. Any idea what this 'Additional Drivers floppy' is, and/or where I can get it? have you tried making a boot disk from the /images/alternatives directory, rather than the cdrom.img? -- pm The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:18:05 +0300 PM disseminated the following: Any idea what this 'Additional Drivers floppy' is, and/or where I can get it? have you tried making a boot disk from the /images/alternatives directory, rather than the cdrom.img? Yep, I was just about to post a [solved], that was exactly what I needed. Many thanks for the replies, all! -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 16:34:48 up 46 days, 16:21, 6 users, load average: 0.25, 0.07, 0.02 +++ Government officials who glorify other people's patriotic deaths are rarely eager to partake of such glory themselves. Cases in point: Dick Cheney. George W. Bush. -- Norman Solomon, Truthout.org, Sept. 11 2004 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:09:27 +0200 H.J.Bathoorn disseminated the following: Joe, Did you ever try a floppy with smartbootmanager? It comes on the slackware install CD's and works on the most improbable of boot devices. I've had some good experiences with it. If I'm understanding you correctly, I don't know if that would work. There isn't even an option in the BIOS to boot from CD, so I think I'm SOL there. I'll definitely check it out though, you can never have too many utils like this, eh? There's even a smboot.exe to be found somewhere on the web if you're realy desparate;) Good luck, HarM (back again;)) I was wondering where you'd got to... Welcome back, you were missed! -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 16:36:42 up 46 days, 16:23, 6 users, load average: 0.23, 0.12, 0.03 +++ Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone. -- John Maynard Keynes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Sunday 19 September 2004 22:40, JoeHill wrote: Joe, Did you ever try a floppy with smartbootmanager? It comes on the slackware install CD's and works on the most improbable of boot devices. I've had some good experiences with it. If I'm understanding you correctly, I don't know if that would work. There isn't even an option in the BIOS to boot from CD, so I think I'm SOL there. I'll definitely check it out though, you can never have too many utils like this, eh? Too true:) smbtmgr installs to mbr (it's that small) if you've got a running system (be it win or lin) and boots of a floppy as well. Especially on old stuff where the bios won't boot the CD are the aime here. Old IBM Thinkpads without floppy drives and such:) get it here: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net it's not much more than 50k dload. I was wondering where you'd got to... Welcome back, you were missed! Thanks mate, no big deal just an enormous amount of work that headed my way and kept me away from home since May. Heheh, now it's time to take a rest, count my euro's, repair my ship and scour this list:) Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Sunday 19 September 2004 14:49, JoeHill wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:04:04 +0300 PM disseminated the following: Hey all, Tryin' to do an install of MDK 10.0 Official on an old box I got my mitts on, and it won't boot from the CD. I created a boot floppy with the cdrom.img, but when I try to start the install I get 'No CDROM device found', and when I hit 'Ok', it tells me to insert the 'Additional Drivers floppy'. I can see nothing in the INSTALL or README about this, except for network drivers to do a net install, and no images that fit this description in the /Images dir on the CD. Help? How Old? Is there any possibility that its a non-ATAPI CD in the box (old Dolphin, etc)? Well, it's pretty old, but it's from another box which I had installed MDK on before, though that was 9.2 (IIRC). This machine, however, does not allow for booting from the CD :-(. One thing I should have mentioned, if I boot from a Win98 floppy (one of the few useful things to come out of MS), it detects the CDROM and I can read from the drive. Unfortunately, this does me no good as the MDK CD doesn't appear to have any 'setup' or 'install' scripts I can run to get things going. Any idea what this 'Additional Drivers floppy' is, and/or where I can get it? The additional drivers floppy is a FD that contains drivers for hardware that is not on the dist it was pretty common in RH-7 days likely you shouldn't need it. But you do need a CD-ROM driver that will wake up your CD. If you have an old copy of RH or Caldera(from the same era) around there should be a driver on that dist that will build a FD that may install your MDK dist. No guarantees. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Sunday 19 September 2004 16:21, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Sunday 19 September 2004 22:40, JoeHill wrote: snip get it here: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net it's not much more than 50k dload. snip I show 6.1 M -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:55:08 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: Any idea what this 'Additional Drivers floppy' is, and/or where I can get it? The additional drivers floppy is a FD that contains drivers for hardware that is not on the dist it was pretty common in RH-7 days likely you shouldn't need it. But you do need a CD-ROM driver that will wake up your CD. If you have an old copy of RH or Caldera(from the same era) around there should be a driver on that dist that will build a FD that may install your MDK dist. No guarantees. Thanks Hoyt, but already resolved...sort of :-\ Ended up (see below) that I needed to use a different floppy image from the default. Turns out, the install froze at the very end, didn't reboot, and now the CDROM won't stay closed and the system won't boot. I'm thinkin' the CDROM got fried by some 'eject' command at the end of the install, but I'm just guessing on that one. I'm taking this as a hint that MDK 10 is probably not good to load on this old-timer. I've wanted to do some experimenting, and I'm thinkin' a more 'stock' kernel is better for an old cranky machine like this, so I'm gonna try a Debian network install from floppies, just for fun. Wish me luck :-) -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 21:19:09 up 46 days, 21:05, 6 users, load average: 0.95, 0.40, 0.23 +++ President Bush is asking Congress for $80 billion dollars to rebuild Iraq. And when you make out that check, remember there are two L's in Halliburton. -- David Letterman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional Drivers Floppy? (MDK floppy cdrom.img install)
On Sunday 19 September 2004 06:27 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:55:08 -0500 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following: Any idea what this 'Additional Drivers floppy' is, and/or where I can get it? The additional drivers floppy is a FD that contains drivers for hardware that is not on the dist it was pretty common in RH-7 days likely you shouldn't need it. But you do need a CD-ROM driver that will wake up your CD. If you have an old copy of RH or Caldera(from the same era) around there should be a driver on that dist that will build a FD that may install your MDK dist. No guarantees. Thanks Hoyt, but already resolved...sort of :-\ Ended up (see below) that I needed to use a different floppy image from the default. Turns out, the install froze at the very end, didn't reboot, and now the CDROM won't stay closed and the system won't boot. I'm thinkin' the CDROM got fried by some 'eject' command at the end of the install, but I'm just guessing on that one. I'm taking this as a hint that MDK 10 is probably not good to load on this old-timer. I've wanted to do some experimenting, and I'm thinkin' a more 'stock' kernel is better for an old cranky machine like this, so I'm gonna try a Debian network install from floppies, just for fun. Wish me luck :-) that's not a LG R/W drive is it ..thee was a problem a while back Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
