[newbie] Backups
Any recommendations for a good easily configurable backup program? I'd like to backup my working files to a company network drive (w2k) that I can r/w to. TIA Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Saturday 05 July 2003 03:31 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] var]$ gzip -l --name --verbose backup_incr_user_chris_20030630_171205.tar.gz method crc date time compressed uncompr. ratio uncompressed_name defla 2cda29fa Jun 30 17:12 -1976868556 -1739046912 0.0% backup_incr_user_chris_20030630_171205.tar Not likely if tar has a usable limit of 2GB. So it appears from the replies I've gotten so far that drakbackup is useless when backing up a /home partition that is anything other than very small. Is this a correct assumption? If so, has anyone any suggestions for a backup app that will work and work well with Mandrake? Thanks -- Regards Chris A 100% Microsoft free computer Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 8:03am up 13 days, 14:16, 5 users, load average: 0.15, 0.03, 0.01 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Chris wrote: On Saturday 05 July 2003 03:31 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] var]$ gzip -l --name --verbose backup_incr_user_chris_20030630_171205.tar.gz method crc date time compressed uncompr. ratio uncompressed_name defla 2cda29fa Jun 30 17:12 -1976868556 -1739046912 0.0% backup_incr_user_chris_20030630_171205.tar Not likely if tar has a usable limit of 2GB. So it appears from the replies I've gotten so far that drakbackup is useless when backing up a /home partition that is anything other than very small. Is this a correct assumption? If so, has anyone any suggestions for a backup app that will work and work well with Mandrake? Thanks Use partimage. Get it on the gentoo disc that you can download from their website. You will need a spare partition to create the image file in and if you want you can write that image to CD in a writer. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Saturday 05 July 2003 09:35 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Use partimage. Get it on the gentoo disc that you can download from their website. You will need a spare partition to create the image file in and if you want you can write that image to CD in a writer. John John, I urpmi'd and installed partimage, however, looking at it I can't see anyway to specify which directories in /home/chris I want to backup. There are some such as my mp3 dir that I don't need backed up. I did find another app called Backerupper that does let you specify which directories and files to backup and which to ignore. It seems to work pretty well, uses zip for compression and is fast. I just have to work out the problem with my cron event not making the archive correctly. Manually it works great. Thanks for the suggestion Chris -- Regards Chris A 100% Microsoft free computer Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 7:22pm up 14 days, 1:35, 6 users, load average: 0.02, 0.08, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Tuesday 01 July 2003 11:07 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: this is on a seperate drive in itself (my /var partition). In a terminal and in the /var directory with ls -lr I get the correct size as reported in konqueror. So, have I got fubar'd backups? What is the reported size of the backup using the terminal? Is it over 2GB? As a matter of fact yes. The base backup is 13491338168 bytes while the first inc backup is 6613066036 bytes. -- Regards Chris A 100% Microsoft free computer Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 6:21am up 10 days, 12:33, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Backups
Chris wrote: On Tuesday 01 July 2003 11:07 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: this is on a seperate drive in itself (my /var partition). In a terminal and in the /var directory with ls -lr I get the correct size as reported in konqueror. So, have I got fubar'd backups? What is the reported size of the backup using the terminal? Is it over 2GB? As a matter of fact yes. The base backup is 13491338168 bytes while the first inc backup is 6613066036 bytes. I'm not sure if Konqueror is capable of dealing with files that big. I believe I had the same problem in the past when I tried to backup a user. I also believe that tar has a file size limit of 2 GB. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
[newbie] Backups
Hmm, didn't get any help with my question on drakbackup so maybe I'll ask it in a different manner. Using drakbackup creates backup tar.gz files on my other drive in my /var partition. Shouldn't I be able to look inside these files using Konqueror in superuser mode? Or am I missing something here. -- Regards Chris A 100% Microsoft free computer Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 5:30pm up 9 days, 23:42, 5 users, load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.05 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Backups
Chris wrote: Hmm, didn't get any help with my question on drakbackup so maybe I'll ask it in a different manner. Using drakbackup creates backup tar.gz files on my other drive in my /var partition. Shouldn't I be able to look inside these files using Konqueror in superuser mode? Or am I missing something here. Yes. You should be able to do that. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Backups
Chris wrote: On Tuesday 01 July 2003 09:04 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Chris wrote: Hmm, didn't get any help with my question on drakbackup so maybe I'll ask it in a different manner. Using drakbackup creates backup tar.gz files on my other drive in my /var partition. Shouldn't I be able to look inside these files using Konqueror in superuser mode? Or am I missing something here. Yes. You should be able to do that. Hmm, when I run konqueror in su mode, click on the file, I get /var/backup_base_user_chris_20030621_184918.tar.gz does not exist. Now this is on a seperate drive in itself (my /var partition). In a terminal and in the /var directory with ls -lr I get the correct size as reported in konqueror. So, have I got fubar'd backups? What is the reported size of the backup using the terminal? Is it over 2GB? -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
[newbie] Backups
Is it possible to backup your entire system by tar /bziping / ? then incase of a system rebuild / reinstall you could boot to a boot disk and untar your machine? If so what is the best way of doing this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Paul wrote, Is it possible to backup your entire system by tar /bziping / ? then incase of a system rebuild / reinstall you could boot to a boot disk and untar your machine? If so what is the best way of doing this? Yes, you can. There was just an entire thread on this, initiated by me, only about a week ago, to which many knowledgable people kindly responded in detail. Yes, it can be done, but when you create the tar.gz files make sure to use the -P option to make the directories absolute. To get the whole thread, you should go to the archives and do a search on "backup" and "tar." Charles Muller Toyo Gakuen University Digital Dictionary of Buddhism and CJK-English Dictionary http://www.acmuller.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Kraus Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 6:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Backups Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Mon, 2002-02-18 at 18:12, Paul Kraus wrote: Is it possible to backup your entire system by tar /bziping / ? then incase of a system rebuild / reinstall you could boot to a boot disk and untar your machine? If so what is the best way of doing this? For example, I am using a line like this: tar cvzfP /mnt/win_d/linux-bak/fulbak.tar.gz /home /usr /var /etc /dev /root /lib /initrd /sbin /proc Chuck -- --- Charles Muller Toyo Gakuen University Digital Dictionary of Buddhism and CJK-English Dictionary www.acmuller.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Monday 18 February 2002 22:12, Paul Kraus wrote: Is it possible to backup your entire system by tar /bziping / ? then incase of a system rebuild / reinstall you could boot to a boot disk and untar your machine? If so what is the best way of doing this? Do a search for mindi and mondo. Those two apps (together) are for backing up your entire system to CD. skinky -- oxymoron: Microsoft Works Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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use drackbackup Am Montag, 18. Februar 2002 10:12 schrieben Sie: Is it possible to backup your entire system by tar /bziping / ? then incase of a system rebuild / reinstall you could boot to a boot disk and untar your machine? If so what is the best way of doing this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Backups
Dan, if you have been happy with tar then use the -M switch (MultiDisk) option. When it runs out of space it will ask for new disk. Dan Ferris wrote: I would like to be able to backup my home directory to a couple zip disks. I have used tar in the past to do this, only problem is that, tar being tar, it barfs and dies when the disk runs out of space. So, I have decided to use cpio. So, the question is... Is there a way to exclude directories and files to be backed up. tar uses a --exclude= argument, and it accepts a file, directory, or wild card characters. Does cpio use something like this? Or am I in for a bit of shell programming??? Dan
[newbie] backups
I have installed a mandrake 5.3, updated with kernel 2.2.5 and recompiled succesfully. As I am a linux newbie, I installed on a 1.6Gb WD Caviar hd mounted on a removable frame. I have a identical hd mounted on a second frame. My goal is to copy the installation as is on the second hd, just to carry out software changes safely. Only when the changes will prove to be correct, I transfer these changes on the first hd. Obvioulsy, I cant use linux bachup procedure to carry out the whole operation. I booted in msdos 6.2 via floppy, and I tryed several times whith Ghost 5.1c using or a Syquest Sparq, or a dos hd. But the thing, does'nt came: the copy on the second hard disk seems good only for the first boot. All works good. But, on the subsequent boot, during the boot, fsck see several hd failure and can't recover. I can't figure what happens. Suggestions ?
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You can mount the second hard drive in your Linux and then perform something like an Hard Disk upgrade. So all the Linux system gona be copied on your second one. Take a look in Hard Disk Upgrade Howto to perform the copy. Hope that help. Take a look at this link. http://www.redhat.com/mirrors/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html Carl mc wrote: I have installed a mandrake 5.3, updated with kernel 2.2.5 and recompiled succesfully. As I am a linux newbie, I installed on a 1.6Gb WD Caviar hd mounted on a removable frame. I have a identical hd mounted on a second frame. My goal is to copy the installation as is on the second hd, just to carry out software changes safely. Only when the changes will prove to be correct, I transfer these changes on the first hd. Obvioulsy, I cant use linux bachup procedure to carry out the whole operation. I booted in msdos 6.2 via floppy, and I tryed several times whith Ghost 5.1c using or a Syquest Sparq, or a dos hd. But the thing, does'nt came: the copy on the second hard disk seems good only for the first boot. All works good. But, on the subsequent boot, during the boot, fsck see several hd failure and can't recover. I can't figure what happens. Suggestions ?
