Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??
On Saturday 14 Dec 2002 8:54 pm, Meliton wrote: Hope that explains it. Meliton. Thanks - I suppose I knew some of this, but not enough to have really grokked it ;-) Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??
On Saturday 14 Dec 2002 8:41 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks for the replies, I don't understand too much at all about midi. But, is there a way to get my Mdk system to produce the required sounds that are indicated in a midi file? I haven't been able to get a peep out of Mdk on the e-cards that I receive that contain a musical segment in midi format. I have TiMidity and instruments and all of the multimedia stuff that I can think of installed, but no midi tunes. :-/ Could there be something that has to be configured? I'm at a loss. It's not anything I need, but I was able to hear midi in MS. :-( Do you have the same problem trying to hear midi Anne? Yes and no - the message you're getting is the one I get if I try to use KMid. However, there's another app, KMidi (just to confuse you) that works just fine. Of course I have no way of knowing how good its rendering is, and I don't have regular use for it, so I haven't examined tweaking possibilities, but it's a starting point for you. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 09:44:05 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer?? On Saturday 14 Dec 2002 8:41 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks for the replies, I don't understand too much at all about midi. But, is there a way to get my Mdk system to produce the required sounds that are indicated in a midi file? I haven't been able to get a peep out of Mdk on the e-cards that I receive that contain a musical segment in midi format. I have TiMidity and instruments and all of the multimedia stuff that I can think of installed, but no midi tunes. :-/ Could there be something that has to be configured? I'm at a loss. It's not anything I need, but I was able to hear midi in MS. :-( Do you have the same problem trying to hear midi Anne? Yes and no - the message you're getting is the one I get if I try to use KMid. However, there's another app, KMidi (just to confuse you) that works just fine. Of course I have no way of knowing how good its rendering is, and I don't have regular use for it, so I haven't examined tweaking possibilities, but it's a starting point for you. Anne *** Thanks Anne, I will give KMidi a try. :-) I don't use midi that often really, but would just like to be able to hear the little midi tunes on my e-cards ;-) If it's as complicated as all get out, I'll just hum the tunes. lol I will check my file associations and see about KMidi for midi files. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??
On Sunday 15 Dec 2002 12:23 pm, Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 09:44:05 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer?? On Saturday 14 Dec 2002 8:41 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks for the replies, I don't understand too much at all about midi. But, is there a way to get my Mdk system to produce the required sounds that are indicated in a midi file? I haven't been able to get a peep out of Mdk on the e-cards that I receive that contain a musical segment in midi format. I have TiMidity and instruments and all of the multimedia stuff that I can think of installed, but no midi tunes. :-/ Could there be something that has to be configured? I'm at a loss. It's not anything I need, but I was able to hear midi in MS. :-( Do you have the same problem trying to hear midi Anne? Yes and no - the message you're getting is the one I get if I try to use KMid. However, there's another app, KMidi (just to confuse you) that works just fine. Of course I have no way of knowing how good its rendering is, and I don't have regular use for it, so I haven't examined tweaking possibilities, but it's a starting point for you. Anne *** Thanks Anne, I will give KMidi a try. :-) I don't use midi that often really, but would just like to be able to hear the little midi tunes on my e-cards ;-) If it's as complicated as all get out, I'll just hum the tunes. lol I will check my file associations and see about KMidi for midi files. I don't remember installing it separately - as far as I can remember it was part of the installation group - but it certainly came from the cds, as I haven't downloaded anything except plugins since I installed 9.0 Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??
Subject: Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer?? On Saturday 14 Dec 2002 8:41 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks for the replies, I don't understand too much at all about midi. But, is there a way to get my Mdk system to produce the required sounds that are indicated in a midi file? I haven't been able to get a peep out of Mdk on the e-cards that I receive that contain a musical segment in midi format. I have TiMidity and instruments and all of the multimedia stuff that I can think of installed, but no midi tunes. :-/ Could there be something that has to be configured? I'm at a loss. It's not anything I need, but I was able to hear midi in MS. :-( Do you have the same problem trying to hear midi Anne? Yes and no - the message you're getting is the one I get if I try to use KMid. However, there's another app, KMidi (just to confuse you) that works just fine. Of course I have no way of knowing how good its rendering is, and I don't have regular use for it, so I haven't examined tweaking possibilities, but it's a starting point for you. Anne *** Thanks Anne, I will give KMidi a try. :-) I don't use midi that often really, but would just like to be able to hear the little midi tunes on my e-cards ;-) If it's as complicated as all get out, I'll just hum the tunes. lol I will check my file associations and see about KMidi for midi files. I don't remember installing it separately - as far as I can remember it was part of the installation group - but it certainly came from the cds, as I haven't downloaded anything except plugins since I installed 9.0 Anne Thanks Anne! I'm listening to a midi right now with KMidi...Music Box Dancer by Frank Mills. Sounds pretty much like the tuneFrank might not agree though. lol Thanks again. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??
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[newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??
Greetings everyone, Whenever I try to open a midi file, I get the following error message: Couldn't open /dev/sequencer. Probably there is another program using it. Well, I can't even find /dev/sequencer on my system. Anyone have any advice as to how I can get midi files to play on my Mdk 9.0 system? TIA for any help. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 20:10, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings everyone, Whenever I try to open a midi file, I get the following error message: Couldn't open /dev/sequencer. Probably there is another program using it. Well, I can't even find /dev/sequencer on my system. Anyone have any advice as to how I can get midi files to play on my Mdk 9.0 system? Excuse me if you already know all this, I don't know where you're at with MIDI but: MIDI files contain information to control synthesizers and other hardware so that they carry out certain actions, like playing sounds. MIDI files don't contain any sound information themselves, just the parameters for peripherals designed for that interface. So there's no way a computer will play a MIDI file as it does, for example, a .wav or .mp3. It needs special hardware, at least a synthesizer. Regards. Meliton. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??
On Saturday 14 Dec 2002 7:51 pm, Meliton wrote: On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 20:10, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings everyone, Whenever I try to open a midi file, I get the following error message: Couldn't open /dev/sequencer. Probably there is another program using it. Well, I can't even find /dev/sequencer on my system. Anyone have any advice as to how I can get midi files to play on my Mdk 9.0 system? Excuse me if you already know all this, I don't know where you're at with MIDI but: MIDI files contain information to control synthesizers and other hardware so that they carry out certain actions, like playing sounds. MIDI files don't contain any sound information themselves, just the parameters for peripherals designed for that interface. So there's no way a computer will play a MIDI file as it does, for example, a .wav or .mp3. It needs special hardware, at least a synthesizer. Regards. Meliton. Now that's confused me, for sure. So how, exactly, do we play midi files on a computer? (Not smart-arsing - genuinely want to know) Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 20:05:41 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer?? On Saturday 14 Dec 2002 7:51 pm, Meliton wrote: On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 20:10, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings everyone, Whenever I try to open a midi file, I get the following error message: Couldn't open /dev/sequencer. Probably there is another program using it. Well, I can't even find /dev/sequencer on my system. Anyone have any advice as to how I can get midi files to play on my Mdk 9.0 system? Excuse me if you already know all this, I don't know where you're at with MIDI but: MIDI files contain information to control synthesizers and other hardware so that they carry out certain actions, like playing sounds. MIDI files don't contain any sound information themselves, just the parameters for peripherals designed for that interface. So there's no way a computer will play a MIDI file as it does, for example, a .wav or .mp3. It needs special hardware, at least a synthesizer. Regards. Meliton. Now that's confused me, for sure. So how, exactly, do we play midi files on a computer? (Not smart-arsing - genuinely want to know) Anne *** Thanks for the replies, I don't understand too much at all about midi. But, is there a way to get my Mdk system to produce the required sounds that are indicated in a midi file? I haven't been able to get a peep out of Mdk on the e-cards that I receive that contain a musical segment in midi format. I have TiMidity and instruments and all of the multimedia stuff that I can think of installed, but no midi tunes. :-/ Could there be something that has to be configured? I'm at a loss. It's not anything I need, but I was able to hear midi in MS. :-( Do you have the same problem trying to hear midi Anne? --Angus The noblest instinct of them all is the reverence for life. --Albert Schweitzer -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 21:05, Anne Wilson wrote: Now that's confused me, for sure. So how, exactly, do we play midi files on a computer? Well, MIDI is just a protocol. There are a series of events, such as a note, with parameters, such as the volume or pitch of said note. All events are arranged vertically (several sounds at the same time) and horizontally (one thing after the other). This is what the famous sequencer does, it's used to record/edit/replay the sequence of events and accompanying parameters in the correct manner. All this information is passed to a synthesizer which contains samples. A sample would be, for example, the sound of a violin playing a single note. The MIDI synthesizer, acting as slave, is cotrolled by the sequencer, which passes along the information. When you play the file, thus, you need a sequencer with the file loaded, as master (this is just software) and a synth as slave (hardware). There are all sorts of different additional pieces of hardware which can be usefully controlled by MIDI, but that is the minimum setup. Think of a MIDI file as a score sheet, which in fact is exactly what it is. Score sheets don't sound, you need a musician (sequencer) and an instrument (synth). I believe there are synths which are just a PC card, and you could use that plus the appropriate software. But the actual sound you are going to hear depends on your synth, and it requires a very good one and an awful lot of work to make it sound nearly natural. You do NOT hear what the author of the file hears on their system, you have no way of really knowing what they hear unless they attach the make and model af their synth, what samples they use, and how they're tweaked. And you happen to have the same model synth to reproduce it all. If what you want is just to listen to music, stay away from MIDI. MIDI is not music, it's just a sort of musical notation. Hope that explains it. Meliton. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 21:41, Angus Auld wrote: I have TiMidity and instruments and all of the multimedia stuff that I can think of installed, but no midi tunes. :-/ Seems like I'm way out of date on this. I've been quickly checking out this TiMidity thing you mention, and it seems as if somebody has worked out how to convert MIDI to sound, a sort of software synth. I know nothing about this, I fear. I stopped working in the music field about eight years ago, when such a thing wasn't possible. But I'll take a look (this stuff takes me back, so I don't mind) and if I find anything useful I'll get back to you. Meliton. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Couldn't open /dev/sequencer??
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 21:41, Angus Auld wrote: Couldn't open /dev/sequencer. Probably there is another program using it. Well, I can't even find /dev/sequencer on my system. It looks like TiMidity has defaults you don't want. Try running it with the -o filename option, where filename is a temporary .wav, and then see if you can play that. I don't know if you have to create an empty file first, manual doesn't say, but I should think not. Good luck. Meliton. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
