RE: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Sabin, Matthew
Title: RE: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)





Are you using the correct cable? Cat5 crossover cable vs. normal cable?


Your PC would have connected to the LAN with a normal cable, but the DSL/modem (misnomer) may require a crossover cable to connect to a PC.

--Matthew


-Original Message-
From: Julien Sobrier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)



Ben wrote:
 Not sure what you mean my Ethernet modem, but if you mean an ethernet based 
 DSL modem, then assuming that it's ilke the rest of SBC's DSL network, it's 
 only doing bridging. The PPPoE session is established via your PC through the 
 DSL modem which only establishes the ecnapsulation for whatever protocol your 
 ISP (SBC) is using before sending your PPPoE request to the authenticating 
 server. MODEM is an acronym for MODulate-DEModulate which translates teh 
 signal into what is necessary for the devices to communicate. In the case of 
 DSL, it's the DSL modem talking to the DSLAM (DSL Access Multiplexer) over 
 your phone line using frequencies over 8khz (reserved for voice). If you've 
 configured your PPPoE connection in mandrake Network Setup, then you'll need 
 to make sure that the authentication is taking place. Hope this helps. 
(Erro: message previously sent to Ben only, copy on the newsgroup)


Hello
I have a modem (I don't thonk it is a router) which must be plugged to 
the ethernet network card of my computer.
Il I try to make a connection using PPPoE, nothing happens. But I 
noticed that if I choose ppptd instead of PPPoE, the activity led of the 
modem blinks (but no connections occurs).


The network card where my modem is plugged was previously used for my 
LAN connection. So, maybe I have to change some informations. I tried tu 
put eth0 in static or dhcp mode, up or down, start at boot or not. But I 
still cannot connect to internet: the activity led is off.


I don't know what to do do make my connection working.


I also wonder how the connection manager can understand the provider 
address: sbcglobal.net. Does it need to be translated into an IP address?


THanks
julien








Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
Sabin, Matthew wrote:
Are you using the correct cable?  Cat5 crossover cable vs. normal 
cable?

Your PC would have connected to the LAN with a normal cable, but the 
DSL/modem (misnomer) may require a crossover cable to connect to a PC.

--Matthew
The connection works under Windows, so I guess I have the good cable.

THanks
Julien

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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
Julien Sobrier wrote:

Hello
I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I 
read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under 
Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under 
Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC?

Thank you
Julien
I think all I miss is the phone number. Any clue how I could find it 
in California?

Thanks
Julien

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[newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
Hello
I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I 
read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under 
Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under 
Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC?

Thank you
Julien

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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
me wrote:
On Monday 11 August 2003 08:05 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote:

Hello
I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I
read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under
Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under
Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC?
Thank you
Julien


Its actually much easier to set up in Linux than windows. In the Mandrake 
Control Center, go to Network  Internet, then Drak Connect and click the 
Wizard. Pick ADSL connection, click use pppoe, then fill in the following:

Provider name  sbcglobal.net
Account Login:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
account password:  [your secret word]
THEN do you want to start the connection at boot?  more than likely YES.

then you should be on your merry way.

Jack
By the way, it is an ethernet modem.

julien


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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
Ben wrote:
Not sure what you mean my Ethernet modem, but if you mean an ethernet based 
DSL modem, then assuming that it's ilke the rest of SBC's DSL network, it's 
only doing bridging. The PPPoE session is established via your PC through the 
DSL modem which only establishes the ecnapsulation for whatever protocol your 
ISP (SBC) is using before sending your PPPoE request to the authenticating 
server. MODEM is an acronym for MODulate-DEModulate which translates teh 
signal into what is necessary for the devices to communicate. In the case of 
DSL, it's the DSL modem talking to the DSLAM (DSL Access Multiplexer) over 
your phone line using frequencies over 8khz (reserved for voice).  If you've 
configured your PPPoE connection in mandrake Network Setup, then you'll need 
to make sure that the authentication is taking place. Hope this helps. 
(Erro: message previously sent to Ben only, copy on the newsgroup)

Hello
I have a modem (I don't thonk it is a router) which must be plugged to 
the ethernet network card of my computer.
Il I try to make a connection using PPPoE, nothing happens. But I 
noticed that if I choose ppptd instead of PPPoE, the activity led of the 
modem blinks (but no connections occurs).

The network card where my modem is plugged was previously used for my 
LAN connection. So, maybe I have to change some informations. I tried tu 
put eth0 in static or dhcp mode, up or down, start at boot or not. But I 
still cannot connect to internet: the activity led is off.

I don't know what to do do make my connection working.

I also wonder how the connection manager can understand the provider 
address: sbcglobal.net. Does it need to be translated into an IP address?

THanks
julien



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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread me
On Monday 11 August 2003 08:05 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote:
 Hello
 I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I
 read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under
 Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under
 Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC?

 Thank you
 Julien

Its actually much easier to set up in Linux than windows. In the Mandrake 
Control Center, go to Network  Internet, then Drak Connect and click the 
Wizard. Pick ADSL connection, click use pppoe, then fill in the following:

Provider name  sbcglobal.net
Account Login:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
account password:  [your secret word]

THEN do you want to start the connection at boot?  more than likely YES.

then you should be on your merry way.

Jack


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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
Julien Sobrier wrote:
Hello
I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I 
read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under 
Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under 
Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC?

Thank you
Julien
Hello
Finally, it works after reinstalling rp-pppoe and using tkpppoe to set 
up the connection.

THank you to everyone.

Julien


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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday August 13 2003 04:24 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote:
 Sabin, Matthew wrote:
  Are you using the correct cable?  Cat5 crossover cable vs.
  normal cable?
 
  Your PC would have connected to the LAN with a normal cable,
  but the DSL/modem (misnomer) may require a crossover cable to
  connect to a PC.

  Yes it is a misnomer. It's not a modem as there's nothing to 
be modulate/demodulated (analog POTS  digital) as the DSL input 
and output are already digital. It's properly called an ATU-R, 
(adsl transceiver unit-remote) but most everybody calls 'em modems 
out of old habits.  The Telco's DSLAM is also called an 
ATU-C(entral).

  --Matthew

 The connection works under Windows, so I guess I have the good
 cable.

 THanks
 Julien

 Julien, try installing rp-pppoe. It's on your CD's. Run (as 
root) 'adsl-setup' (w/o the quotes) and answer the half dozen 
questions. Your user name should be the whole deal, ie, somethin 
like   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For DNS don't enter any, enter 'server' (w/o the quotes).
Typing (as root) 'adsl-start' should do it, 'adsl-stop' to quit

  See Roaring Penguin's site for more information and help
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/

  Also, Menu | Documentation | Howto's | DSL-Howto is worth a read. 
SBC DSL is easy to setup on Mandrake once you have a userID and 
password.  

 FWIW, I've had SBC DSL for almost a year. A few weeks ago the 
connection abruptly slowed by over half. I soon found the problem. 
I had the DSL phone line running thru an APC surge protector, which 
normally is a good idea. Putting the line straight to the ATU-R 
immediately restored full speed. Also I sometimes (actually rarely) 
need to power cycle the ATU-R (unplug power, wait a minute, restore 
power).  So try that if you feel you've got the connection properly 
configured, but can't connect.
-- 
Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas


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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Wednesday August 13 2003 04:24 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote:

Sabin, Matthew wrote:

Are you using the correct cable?  Cat5 crossover cable vs.
normal cable?
Your PC would have connected to the LAN with a normal cable,
but the DSL/modem (misnomer) may require a crossover cable to
connect to a PC.


  Yes it is a misnomer. It's not a modem as there's nothing to 
be modulate/demodulated (analog POTS  digital) as the DSL input 
and output are already digital. It's properly called an ATU-R, 
(adsl transceiver unit-remote) but most everybody calls 'em modems 
out of old habits.  The Telco's DSLAM is also called an 
ATU-C(entral).

 Julien, try installing rp-pppoe. It's on your CD's. Run (as 
root) 'adsl-setup' (w/o the quotes) and answer the half dozen 
questions. Your user name should be the whole deal, ie, somethin 
like   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For DNS don't enter any, enter 'server' (w/o the quotes).
Typing (as root) 'adsl-start' should do it, 'adsl-stop' to quit

  See Roaring Penguin's site for more information and help
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/
  Also, Menu | Documentation | Howto's | DSL-Howto is worth a read. 
SBC DSL is easy to setup on Mandrake once you have a userID and 
password.  
Thank you for the explanation. I tried to use adsl-setup, but it asked 
me only for my user name, password and dns. Nothing about the provider 
or anything else. Then, when I ran adsl-start and adsl-connect as root, 
nothing happend.

When I tried to connect to internet with Drakconf, I can see this error 
message:
GLib-CRITICAL **: File gmain.c : line 500 (g_source_renovc): asertion 
`tag0' Failed
SIOCDELRT: No such process

The first time, Drakconf tried to install rp-ppoe. But it failed because 
it was looking on internet! So, I installed it manually with the RPM 
found on my cd. How can I check that the installaion was correct? I 
didn't have any error message when using urpmi.

THank you
Julien

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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Ben
On Tuesday 12 August 2003 20:42, Julien Sobrier wrote:
 me wrote:
  On Monday 11 August 2003 08:05 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote:
 Hello
 I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I
 read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under
 Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under
 Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC?
 
 Thank you
 Julien
 
  Its actually much easier to set up in Linux than windows. In the Mandrake
  Control Center, go to Network  Internet, then Drak Connect and click the
  Wizard. Pick ADSL connection, click use pppoe, then fill in the
  following:
 
  Provider name  sbcglobal.net
  Account Login:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  account password:  [your secret word]
 
  THEN do you want to start the connection at boot?  more than likely YES.
 
  then you should be on your merry way.
 
  Jack

 By the way, it is an ethernet modem.

 julien

Not sure what you mean my Ethernet modem, but if you mean an ethernet based 
DSL modem, then assuming that it's ilke the rest of SBC's DSL network, it's 
only doing bridging. The PPPoE session is established via your PC through the 
DSL modem which only establishes the ecnapsulation for whatever protocol your 
ISP (SBC) is using before sending your PPPoE request to the authenticating 
server. MODEM is an acronym for MODulate-DEModulate which translates teh 
signal into what is necessary for the devices to communicate. In the case of 
DSL, it's the DSL modem talking to the DSLAM (DSL Access Multiplexer) over 
your phone line using frequencies over 8khz (reserved for voice).  If you've 
configured your PPPoE connection in mandrake Network Setup, then you'll need 
to make sure that the authentication is taking place. Hope this helps. 

-- 
Ben Reeves

He who knows much about others is learned, but he who understands himself is 
more intelligent. He who  
 controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier 
still.  
- Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King

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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-12 Thread Julien Sobrier
me wrote:
On Monday 11 August 2003 08:05 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote:

Hello
I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I
read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under
Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under
Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC?
Thank you
Julien


Its actually much easier to set up in Linux than windows. In the Mandrake 
Control Center, go to Network  Internet, then Drak Connect and click the 
Wizard. Pick ADSL connection, click use pppoe, then fill in the following:

Provider name  sbcglobal.net
Account Login:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
account password:  [your secret word]
THEN do you want to start the connection at boot?  more than likely YES.

then you should be on your merry way.

Jack
Thank you very much, this is it. But my modem is not working under 
linux: the activity led never blinks. I read the log file. It just says 
that the connection has been lost. Do you know what I should check to 
make the modem working?

Julien


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