Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 10:03 pm, Charlie wrote: snip Maybe Dell (and a few others) will learn from their past agreements with Microsoft and not be quite so hamstrung. One can hope so at any rate. Since they offered a guarantee (in writing?) that the box will run GNU/Linux it would seem the proper advice would be; Go for it! It will doubtless save time and at least a certain amount of money versus building from hardware available at retail. You'll let the list know the result should you go ahead Kaj? I'd be curious at the least. :-) Thanks and regards; /snip And Robert wrote : snip PS---If Dell states they dont support MDK, this is true b/c they sell RH instead. Workstation/Server Support does support the HW, not the OSto a point. IF something is NOT working just post it to the MDK mailing lists and it will get sorted out fairly quickly. /snip Well, I'll go for an Optiplex with only this rudimentary DOS on it. Then I'll install Mandrake. If anything goes wrong - other than really basic matters - I'll post to the list, of course. Thanks a lot for your advice, listers. Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 28 January 2003 06:55 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: snip Fascinating. I'm glad to hear that they are giving consumers a choice. Although I'm disappointed to hear that they expect to give winblows preinstalled. My comment is that I would like to know what their partitioning scheme is on the system that you get, before it is wiped forevermore. Also, it does sound like a good plan, cause they will have to get all devices working before it is shipped out to you. It might be a good idea to review what modules are loaded with an lsmod b4 you wipe all the partitions. That way, if you've got something exotic, you've got a heads up on it before you go into the Mandrake installation. Not saying that LM won't autodetect everything. But the info may come in handy. LX /snip Thanks, Lyvim and Tony. The story goes on : 5 minutes ago I had a telephone conversation with a Dell Denmark representative. He wasn't sure what linux-distro they offered, only he gave a guarantee, that an Optiplex SX260 would run linux. After some additional pressure I managed to get a bargain : Dell Denmark will deliver an Optiplex with only a rudimentary DOS in it. He claimed that it would be necessary in order to get the hard disk running (???) and maybe for legal reasons. The price cutoff would be around 70-80 euros relative to a box with WindowsXP. Sounds good, eh ? Kaj Haulrich indeed! that is a sa-WEET deal. -- Mark --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
Kaj, I did it on a GX150 (1gb Celeron 256mb pc133 ram), no probs, even with the onboard Intel graphics chip set. The hardest part I had was getting a Nvidia card which was low-profile for it. Tony. -Original Message- From: Kaj Haulrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:39 PM To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] Dell Optiplex Anyone here managed to install Mandrake 9.0 upon a Dell Optiplex ? - If yes, what's your mileage / experience ? My reason for asking : I just contacted Dell Denmark and asked for an *empty* Optiplex. They were quite negative, asking why I don't want Windows preinstalled. I told them that I wanted to install Mandrake. Long pause. Then they cheered up quite a bit : Actually, they could deliver an Optiplex with Linux ( RedHat, I suppose) preinstalled ! Now, I intend to purchase the thingy and install Mandrake, figuring I can put the golden star upon the red hat. Comments ? Regards Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
Glad to hear that the Danish are at least a bit flexible. Didn't get the Dutch Dell that far: they told me that they simply don't have time to check the correct working of their machine other than by testing it with WindowsXP. And furthermore there seems to be a law that forbids selling of PC's without an OS on it. Wonder who made that law. Ed -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Lyvim Xaphir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 28 januari 2003 7:56 Aan: NewbieMandrake-List Onderwerp: Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 17:38, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Anyone here managed to install Mandrake 9.0 upon a Dell Optiplex ? - If yes, what's your mileage / experience ? My reason for asking : I just contacted Dell Denmark and asked for an *empty* Optiplex. They were quite negative, asking why I don't want Windows preinstalled. I told them that I wanted to install Mandrake. Long pause. Then they cheered up quite a bit : Actually, they could deliver an Optiplex with Linux ( RedHat, I suppose) preinstalled ! Now, I intend to purchase the thingy and install Mandrake, figuring I can put the golden star upon the red hat. Comments ? Regards Kaj Haulrich. Fascinating. I'm glad to hear that they are giving consumers a choice. Although I'm disappointed to hear that they expect to give winblows preinstalled. My comment is that I would like to know what their partitioning scheme is on the system that you get, before it is wiped forevermore. Also, it does sound like a good plan, cause they will have to get all devices working before it is shipped out to you. It might be a good idea to review what modules are loaded with an lsmod b4 you wipe all the partitions. That way, if you've got something exotic, you've got a heads up on it before you go into the Mandrake installation. Not saying that LM won't autodetect everything. But the info may come in handy. LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Disclaimer Aan dit bericht kunnen geen rechten worden ontleend. Dit bericht is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Als u dit bericht per abuis hebt ontvangen, wordt u verzocht het te vernietigen en de afzender te informeren. Wij adviseren u om bij twijfel over de juistheid of de volledigheid van de mail contact met afzender op te nemen. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
Hi. On Tue 2003-01-28 at 01:55:33 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 17:38, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Anyone here managed to install Mandrake 9.0 upon a Dell Optiplex ? - If yes, what's your mileage / experience ? My reason for asking : I just contacted Dell Denmark and asked for an *empty* Optiplex. They were quite negative, asking why I don't want Windows preinstalled. I told them that I wanted to install Mandrake. Long pause. Then they cheered up quite a bit : Actually, they could deliver an Optiplex with Linux ( RedHat, I suppose) preinstalled ! [...] I'm glad to hear that they are giving consumers a choice. Although I'm disappointed to hear that they expect to give winblows preinstalled. IIRC, it's a concession to their Microsoft OEM license, which doesn't allow them to ship without OS. But they found that they can circumvent it, if they install a different OS. IMHO it was less about expecting Microsoft Windows preinstalled than having any OS preinstalled. That would well explain their change in attitude. I guess they talked about Windows, because that is simply still what most customers ask for (i.e. they would confuse 9 of 10 customers if they asked, if it would be okay to install Linux instead). HAND, Benjamin. msg117141/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 8:34 am, Vaessen, E.M.J. (Ed) wrote: Glad to hear that the Danish are at least a bit flexible. Didn't get the Dutch Dell that far: they told me that they simply don't have time to check the correct working of their machine other than by testing it with WindowsXP. And furthermore there seems to be a law that forbids selling of PC's without an OS on it. Wonder who made that law. Dell in the UK told me years ago that it was illegal to sell a box without windows on it. This was when I was buying a replacement box for my granddaughter. I stuck out, saying that it certainly was not, quoted my registration code, and insisted. After several phone calls I got the box - with a totally unformatted disk. That was not the bad news they may have expected, since I always prefer to partition my disks anyway :) Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 06:55 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: snip Fascinating. I'm glad to hear that they are giving consumers a choice. Although I'm disappointed to hear that they expect to give winblows preinstalled. My comment is that I would like to know what their partitioning scheme is on the system that you get, before it is wiped forevermore. Also, it does sound like a good plan, cause they will have to get all devices working before it is shipped out to you. It might be a good idea to review what modules are loaded with an lsmod b4 you wipe all the partitions. That way, if you've got something exotic, you've got a heads up on it before you go into the Mandrake installation. Not saying that LM won't autodetect everything. But the info may come in handy. LX /snip Thanks, Lyvim and Tony. The story goes on : 5 minutes ago I had a telephone conversation with a Dell Denmark representative. He wasn't sure what linux-distro they offered, only he gave a guarantee, that an Optiplex SX260 would run linux. After some additional pressure I managed to get a bargain : Dell Denmark will deliver an Optiplex with only a rudimentary DOS in it. He claimed that it would be necessary in order to get the hard disk running (???) and maybe for legal reasons. The price cutoff would be around 70-80 euros relative to a box with WindowsXP. Sounds good, eh ? Kaj Haulrich === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 10:17:07AM +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 8:34 am, Vaessen, E.M.J. (Ed) wrote: Glad to hear that the Danish are at least a bit flexible. Didn't get the Dutch Dell that far: they told me that they simply don't have time to check the correct working of their machine other than by testing it with WindowsXP. And furthermore there seems to be a law that forbids selling of PC's without an OS on it. Wonder who made that law. Dell in the UK told me years ago that it was illegal to sell a box without windows on it. This was when I was buying a replacement box for my granddaughter. I stuck out, saying that it certainly was not, quoted my registration code, and insisted. What registration code would that be? --hendrik After several phone calls I got the box - with a totally unformatted disk. That was not the bad news they may have expected, since I always prefer to partition my disks anyway :) Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 6:54 pm, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 10:17:07AM +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 8:34 am, Vaessen, E.M.J. (Ed) wrote: Glad to hear that the Danish are at least a bit flexible. Didn't get the Dutch Dell that far: they told me that they simply don't have time to check the correct working of their machine other than by testing it with WindowsXP. And furthermore there seems to be a law that forbids selling of PC's without an OS on it. Wonder who made that law. Dell in the UK told me years ago that it was illegal to sell a box without windows on it. This was when I was buying a replacement box for my granddaughter. I stuck out, saying that it certainly was not, quoted my registration code, and insisted. What registration code would that be? --hendrik Just the Win98 keycode from her installation disk for the soon-to-be-retired cum my-first-look-at-linux box. Of course I realise now that it didn't prove much - I could have had 20 boxes installed from the same disk, I suppose, but at the time I was full of righteous indignation. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 08:57 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: snip Thanks, Lyvim and Tony. The story goes on : 5 minutes ago I had a telephone conversation with a Dell Denmark representative. He wasn't sure what linux-distro they offered, only he gave a guarantee, that an Optiplex SX260 would run linux. After some additional pressure I managed to get a bargain : Dell Denmark will deliver an Optiplex with only a rudimentary DOS in it. He claimed that it would be necessary in order to get the hard disk running (???) and maybe for legal reasons. The price cutoff would be around 70-80 euros relative to a box with WindowsXP. Sounds good, eh ? Kaj Haulrich === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === AFAICR the agreement between Dell and Microsoft says that Dell can't ship barebones boxes; but doesn't exactly specify what operating system must be included. Note: included, not installed. One of the ways that's been found to circumvent MS's heavy handed interference was to just toss a copy of FreeDOS in with the tower and ship it. A 70 to 80 Euros discount is certainly better than none; but I'd be curious to know how much of the actual OEM price they're passing along in that discount. Last I checked here in Canada Retail Win XP Home Edition goes for CDN$159.00. The stores in town here that sell barebones boxen add that to the price. If one is buying a preconfigured system; meaning one that's advertised as a Plug'n'Play, the discount (for those willing to do such a thing) is only CDN$100 or so. The excuse is We have to test whether we ship a system with an Operating System or not. which may sound reasonable but I don't think so. They have to test, granted, and the testing is included in the price of the system, not a part of the OS price in my opinion. It's still better than nothing though. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered Linux user # 244963; http://counter.li.org Powered by - Mandrake 9.1 beta2 (cooker) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 07:49 pm, Charlie wrote: On Tuesday 28 January 2003 08:57 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: snip Thanks, Lyvim and Tony. The story goes on : 5 minutes ago I had a telephone conversation with a Dell Denmark representative. He wasn't sure what linux-distro they offered, only he gave a guarantee, that an Optiplex SX260 would run linux. After some additional pressure I managed to get a bargain : Dell Denmark will deliver an Optiplex with only a rudimentary DOS in it. He claimed that it would be necessary in order to get the hard disk running (???) and maybe for legal reasons. The price cutoff would be around 70-80 euros relative to a box with WindowsXP. Sounds good, eh ? Kaj Haulrich === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === AFAICR the agreement between Dell and Microsoft says that Dell can't ship barebones boxes; but doesn't exactly specify what operating system must be included. Note: included, not installed. One of the ways that's been found to circumvent MS's heavy handed interference was to just toss a copy of FreeDOS in with the tower and ship it. A 70 to 80 Euros discount is certainly better than none; but I'd be curious to know how much of the actual OEM price they're passing along in that discount. Last I checked here in Canada Retail Win XP Home Edition goes for CDN$159.00. The stores in town here that sell barebones boxen add that to the price. If one is buying a preconfigured system; meaning one that's advertised as a Plug'n'Play, the discount (for those willing to do such a thing) is only CDN$100 or so. The excuse is We have to test whether we ship a system with an Operating System or not. which may sound reasonable but I don't think so. They have to test, granted, and the testing is included in the price of the system, not a part of the OS price in my opinion. It's still better than nothing though. Regards; That demystifies things, Charlie. Coming to think about it, the explanation about DOS *to make the hard drive spin* seems utterly nonsense to me. Actually, I wondered if the man knew what he was talking about. The reason to have DOS installed must serve testing purposes, I guess : to test serial, parallel and USB ports, monitor-outlets, floppy drive etc. etc.. That comes for a price, of course. Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
On Tuesday January 28 2003 01:49 pm, Charlie wrote: AFAICR the agreement between Dell and Microsoft says that Dell can't ship barebones boxes; but doesn't exactly specify what operating system must be included. Note: included, not installed. One of the ways that's been found to circumvent MS's heavy handed interference was to just toss a copy of FreeDOS in with the tower and ship it. A 70 to 80 Euros discount is certainly better than none; but I'd be curious to know how much of the actual OEM price they're passing along in that discount. Last I checked here in Canada Retail Win XP Home Edition goes for CDN$159.00. The main reason OEM's sign up with M$ is to get discounted licences, but also either sign up or get none. So about half price seems sort'a reasonable (CDN$159.00 = 100 USD = about the same in Euros, roughly). OTOH, it's also a tool M$ uses to force them to only load winsux ...either do, or loose your discount. 'Course if you don't sign you also get none. Most OEM business is still with the unwashed M$ users worldwide, so there's no alternative except to sign up. M$ keeps a vigilant eye on what percent of units an OEM like Dell ships (brokers is more accurate, they don't really manufacture 'em, particularly laptops) without their OS. The legal aspects mean little, the discount and availability from M$ does. One'a them under the table deals and arm twisting M$ is infamous for. Unfortunately not known of, or cared to know about by the unwashed masses. I also suspect there's a M$ tax, that even if you do ship an allowed percentage without M$ OS, you still gotta cough up x $$'s per non M$ unit ... to keep your M$ discount. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 02:20 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: snip That demystifies things, Charlie. Coming to think about it, the explanation about DOS *to make the hard drive spin* seems utterly nonsense to me. Actually, I wondered if the man knew what he was talking about. The reason to have DOS installed must serve testing purposes, I guess : to test serial, parallel and USB ports, monitor-outlets, floppy drive etc. etc.. That comes for a price, of course. Kaj Haulrich. Yes, testing the components has to be; or should be, done or the prospective customer is a potential PR disaster. But I still think the testing is already a part of the overhead costs calculation without any consideration of the OS cost. Maybe Dell (and a few others) will learn from their past agreements with Microsoft and not be quite so hamstrung. One can hope so at any rate. Since they offered a guarantee (in writing?) that the box will run GNU/Linux it would seem the proper advice would be; Go for it! It will doubtless save time and at least a certain amount of money versus building from hardware available at retail. You'll let the list know the result should you go ahead Kaj? I'd be curious at the least. :-) Thanks and regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org There are three reasons for becoming a writer: the first is that you need the money; the second that you have something to say that you think the world should know; the third is that you can't think what to do with the long winter evenings. -- Quentin Crisp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
axe enabled I think you're probably so close to 'on the money' with this analysis that it argument would be pointless. Better than all the quoted stuff above with just an I agree. tacked on at the bottom; don't you think? ;-) \ axe enabled Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org FORTUNE DISCUSSES THE OBSCURE FILMS: #5 THE ATOMIC GRANDMOTHER: This humorous but heart-warming story tells of an elderly woman forced to work at a nuclear power plant in order to help the family make ends meet. At night, granny sits on the porch, tells tales of her colorful past, and the family uses her to cook barbecues and to power small electrical appliances. Maureen Stapleton gives a glowing performance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
Personally.I used to work for Dell UNIX/Linux Server Support in Austin, TX (Dell Headquarters). RH is totally supported, and in general ANY Linux and UNIX b/c Dell supports their HW and making sure it works. FYI, Dell is the # 1 distributor of Linux Servers Pre-installed(when i worked there). http://lists.us.dell.com/ Dell is the #1 US Linux Server provider for 2001 and Q1-3 2002 http://www.dell.com/linux Also, ALL OUTSIDE DELL SERVERS ARE RH LINUX.NOT WINDOWS. The only thing is Dell in America will NOT talk to customers abroad (outside the continental US). I personally was on the Linux/UNIX Support Team from August till May and i had the best time ever, until i left for hands-on work. I personally have had MDK 8.2 AND 9.0 installed on 2 Optiplex's (GX1 450 and G1 266), both ran perfectly except for the 3Com NIC's the driver (module/kernel) puts a crap load of message/errors in /var/log/messages when it changes negotiation (10 to 100 or FX to TX). It didnt matter which module/driver i used, i had even DLed Scyld's driver with same effect. Also i DLed the Scyld diagnostics tool and set it to 100TX and tried 100FX and neither fixed the situation. This is the only issue i have ever had. I have had 8.2 running since it came out till i updated to 9.0. Everything was recognized (i never used the soundcard in linux so that is untested for me). Other than these minor issues i have NEVER had a problem with ANY Linux on ANY Optiplex's, again these systems have been out for years. Of course after a new system or server on my case, always have issues but are tweaked/fixed within a few weeks from someone (RH or Dell Engineers). Dell Servers specifically has a mandatory meeting (conference call) with the RH Engineers every week to find out the latest on any issues and such. Personally, RH/MDK are the most widely used distros on Dell when i worked there. I do not use anything BUT Dell if i buy a system. If you want to get technical RH 7.0 came out b/c Dell forced RH out onto the market too fast to sell Linux on Servers. Within a few weeks (a lot faster than normal) RH came out with 7.1 to fix the issues that werent fixed in 7.0. Other than this EVERYTHING thing is tested before it is pre-installed on Servers, dont know about Optiplex's. Hope This Helps. Robert Wideman, former Dell Linux/UNIX Server Support Linux+, A+, I-Net+ MCP, CIW Associate PS---If Dell states they dont support MDK, this is true b/c they sell RH instead. Workstation/Server Support does support the HW, not the OSto a point. IF something is NOT working just post it to the MDK mailing lists and it will get sorted out fairly quickly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kaj Haulrich Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 4:39 PM To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] Dell Optiplex Anyone here managed to install Mandrake 9.0 upon a Dell Optiplex ? - If yes, what's your mileage / experience ? My reason for asking : I just contacted Dell Denmark and asked for an *empty* Optiplex. They were quite negative, asking why I don't want Windows preinstalled. I told them that I wanted to install Mandrake. Long pause. Then they cheered up quite a bit : Actually, they could deliver an Optiplex with Linux ( RedHat, I suppose) preinstalled ! Now, I intend to purchase the thingy and install Mandrake, figuring I can put the golden star upon the red hat. Comments ? Regards Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
On Monday 27 January 2003 09:49 pm, Sabin, Matthew wrote: I'm running 9.0 on an Optiplex GX110 PIII 500MHz box. I'm a bit light on RAM, so I'm running BlackBox -- it's faster than when I had NT4.0 on the box, and no reboots yet (4 months) --Matthew Thanks, Matthew. That encourages me bigtime. The one I have in mind has a P4 2GHz with 512 MB RAM, so I guess that's all right. Regards Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
On Monday 27 January 2003 05:38 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Anyone here managed to install Mandrake 9.0 upon a Dell Optiplex ? - If yes, what's your mileage / experience ? My reason for asking : I just contacted Dell Denmark and asked for an *empty* Optiplex. They were quite negative, asking why I don't want Windows preinstalled. I told them that I wanted to install Mandrake. Long pause. Then they cheered up quite a bit : Actually, they could deliver an Optiplex with Linux ( RedHat, I suppose) preinstalled ! Now, I intend to purchase the thingy and install Mandrake, figuring I can put the golden star upon the red hat. I have run Mandrake on GX1's to the newer GX260. Mandrake loaded and ran just fine. Even got to watch DVD's on the GX260. -- Jose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Mandrake, Redhat and SuSE user Children - the most commonly transmitted sexual disease Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
I have MDK 9.0 installed on Dell Optiplex GX1, with 350MHz PII, 352meg of ram helps. It runs fine, although, for some reason, i have had some problem, with losing it on network after a few hours of inactivity. I dont know why. That has been only problem with it. I got so tired of that problem, however, i reinstalled Xandros on another partition, and am using that currently on that machine. Xandros doenst recognize the onboard sound card, but otherwise works well. --- Monday, January 27, 2003, 7:11:44 PM, you wrote: J On Monday 27 January 2003 05:38 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Anyone here managed to install Mandrake 9.0 upon a Dell Optiplex ? - If yes, what's your mileage / experience ? My reason for asking : I just contacted Dell Denmark and asked for an *empty* Optiplex. They were quite negative, asking why I don't want Windows preinstalled. I told them that I wanted to install Mandrake. Long pause. Then they cheered up quite a bit : Actually, they could deliver an Optiplex with Linux ( RedHat, I suppose) preinstalled ! Now, I intend to purchase the thingy and install Mandrake, figuring I can put the golden star upon the red hat. J I have run Mandrake on GX1's to the newer GX260. Mandrake loaded and ran J just fine. Even got to watch DVD's on the GX260. -- Best regards, hihorsenewsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 10:01, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Monday 27 January 2003 09:49 pm, Sabin, Matthew wrote: I'm running 9.0 on an Optiplex GX110 PIII 500MHz box. I'm a bit light on RAM, so I'm running BlackBox -- it's faster than when I had NT4.0 on the box, and no reboots yet (4 months) --Matthew Thanks, Matthew. That encourages me bigtime. The one I have in mind has a P4 2GHz with 512 MB RAM, so I guess that's all right. What kinda video card does it have - and how much RAM on it? What size the disks? What kinda CDROM unit it got? C'mon - details! Details! I reckon that if it's that fast, it might just run Mandrake... (Let the flames begin) -- Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:40:00 +1100 5:40pm up 1 day, 7:29, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.12, 0.17 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Good night, Austin, Texas, wherever you are! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 17:38, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Anyone here managed to install Mandrake 9.0 upon a Dell Optiplex ? - If yes, what's your mileage / experience ? My reason for asking : I just contacted Dell Denmark and asked for an *empty* Optiplex. They were quite negative, asking why I don't want Windows preinstalled. I told them that I wanted to install Mandrake. Long pause. Then they cheered up quite a bit : Actually, they could deliver an Optiplex with Linux ( RedHat, I suppose) preinstalled ! Now, I intend to purchase the thingy and install Mandrake, figuring I can put the golden star upon the red hat. Comments ? Regards Kaj Haulrich. Fascinating. I'm glad to hear that they are giving consumers a choice. Although I'm disappointed to hear that they expect to give winblows preinstalled. My comment is that I would like to know what their partitioning scheme is on the system that you get, before it is wiped forevermore. Also, it does sound like a good plan, cause they will have to get all devices working before it is shipped out to you. It might be a good idea to review what modules are loaded with an lsmod b4 you wipe all the partitions. That way, if you've got something exotic, you've got a heads up on it before you go into the Mandrake installation. Not saying that LM won't autodetect everything. But the info may come in handy. LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
