Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)
On Friday 18 July 2003 09:08 am, aron smith wrote: what would be the best system that one could put together for under $1,000.00 USD Rules of the game 1 Commercially available Hardware (no surplus SGI 2 It has to run Mandraike : How about this? I decided to let you recycle your monitor, keyboard, NIC, and speakers, and set this little multimedia rockstar up for you: $163.00 AMD Athlon XP2800 333 MHz FSB $146.00 2 sticks PC3200 DDR 512 Mb $84.00 Asus A7N8X Mobo (has onboard LAN and Sound not supported by Mandrake yet) otherwise its a totally rockin' board. $176.00 Seagate Cheetah 73.4Gb SCSI 1RPM $31.00 Samsung 12xDVD/40xCD $45.00 Mitsumi 54x-32x-54x CDRW $158.00 Geforce 4 4400Ti 8xAGP $82.00 Creative SB Audigy2- 6.1 $885.00 Total You will need a SCSI card for this system that is not in this quote. I build up a system with a XP2100, 512 Mb, GeForce 440Mx, and SBLive Card on the A7N8X, and it rocks, and cost me about $550. This is a higher end dream system that I would like to own. But I doubt that my wife would let me buy it. Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 23:55, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Friday 18 July 2003 09:08 am, aron smith wrote: what would be the best system that one could put together for under $1,000.00 USD Rules of the game 1 Commercially available Hardware (no surplus SGI 2 It has to run Mandraike : How about this? I decided to let you recycle your monitor, keyboard, NIC, and speakers, and set this little multimedia rockstar up for you: $163.00 AMD Athlon XP2800 333 MHz FSB $146.00 2 sticks PC3200 DDR 512 Mb $84.00Asus A7N8X Mobo (has onboard LAN and Sound not supported by Mandrake yet) otherwise its a totally rockin' board. $176.00 Seagate Cheetah 73.4Gb SCSI 1RPM $31.00Samsung 12xDVD/40xCD $45.00Mitsumi 54x-32x-54x CDRW $158.00 Geforce 4 4400Ti 8xAGP $82.00Creative SB Audigy2- 6.1 $885.00 Total You will need a SCSI card for this system that is not in this quote. I build up a system with a XP2100, 512 Mb, GeForce 440Mx, and SBLive Card on the A7N8X, and it rocks, and cost me about $550. This is a higher end dream system that I would like to own. But I doubt that my wife would let me buy it. Rob Rocks Alternatevly go the other way how cheap can you go? We have to use the advantages that we have Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 22:07, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 02:08, aron smith wrote: what would be the best system that one could put together for under $1,000.00 USD Rules of the game 1 Commercially available Hardware (no surplus SGI 2 It has to run Mandraike : What about a nice surplus iMac? Welll if thats your dream (Imac sounds more like a nightmare to meG Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 19:51, aron smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 22:07, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 02:08, aron smith wrote: what would be the best system that one could put together for under $1,000.00 USD Rules of the game 1 Commercially available Hardware (no surplus SGI 2 It has to run Mandraike : What about a nice surplus iMac? Welll if thats your dream (Imac sounds more like a nightmare to meG You'd be surprised at these little boxes; you can upgrade the video RAM on them (it's an ATI Rage card - just slap 32mb RAM in it) and then pack in 512mb of RAM, they take a standard EIDE hard drive (and CDROM); so sticking an 80gb in there ain't bad (done it for a customer before) - and the PPC MDK 9.1 - mate, you'd be swinging bigtime! Instead of using the crappy little one-button mouse, just stick a hot little Logitech or MS Intellimouse on there and voila! Nice little workstation... ...that is, IF you can find one at an auction or one that fell off the back of a truck... -- Sat Jul 19 20:55:01 EST 2003 20:55:01 up 5 days, 12:58, 2 users, load average: 0.19, 0.09, 0.02 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * QOTD: Everything I am today I owe to people, whom it is now to late to punish. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:40:44 -0400 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 19 July 2003 02:55 am, Rob Blomquist wrote: $163.00 AMD Athlon XP2800 333 MHz FSB Or you could get yourself a TbredB 1700+ for $45 and clock it to 2400+ at 333fsb. That processor comes multiplier unlocked and is the easiest overclock that ever existed. I'm also looking for a new processor and motherboard. What if I got a 2400+, how much could I overclock that? I want to have good performance for games and office apps. $84.00 Asus A7N8X Mobo (has onboard LAN and Sound not supported by Mandrake yet) otherwise its a totally rockin' board. Or if you want total compatibility without messing around, a KT400 board is fully supported and the lan and sound will both work. I was thinking along the lines of a Soyo Dragon Ultra KT400 or Soyo Dragon Lite. What are the main differences between these two? /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx John Drouhard -- Sat Jul 19 12:04:33 CDT 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)
On Saturday 19 July 2003 06:40 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 19 July 2003 02:55 am, Rob Blomquist wrote: $163.00 AMD Athlon XP2800 333 MHz FSB Or you could get yourself a TbredB 1700+ for $45 and clock it to 2400+ at 333fsb. That processor comes multiplier unlocked and is the easiest overclock that ever existed. $146.00 2 sticks PC3200 DDR 512 Mb If you go KT400, PC 3200 RAM is a waste because the board actually runs faster with the cpu and ram in sync at 333fsb, so PC2700 RAM will do. Also, remember that the Mandrake kernel will have problems with memeory above 864, so you'll have to use the enterprise kernel, although 512MB RAM is probably more than enough unless you do a lot of video editing. $84.00 Asus A7N8X Mobo (has onboard LAN and Sound not supported by Mandrake yet) otherwise its a totally rockin' board. Or if you want total compatibility without messing around, a KT400 board is fully supported and the lan and sound will both work. The dual channel DDR on the nforce2 boards gives you a bit of a performance boost, about the same as going from SDR to DDR RAM, but if compatibility is your game, it's not worth it because you have to install the nVidia binary drivers to get full funtionality. Not a problem unless you can't get on the net to download them because the LAN doesn't work or if you are a pureist that will not use closed source drivers. Buying a A7V8X using the KT400 chipset saves $20 over the A7N8X, but for the advantages of the A7N8X I would say its wasted money. The onboard dual NICs and soundcard make it worth the money, as someone always seems to build an open source driver that works. Look at WinModems. My apologies, my price was for PC2700 ram, my text was not updated. Overclocking always causes the chip to suffer, espeically in a 1700 to 2400 jump. I use it only as a last resort, I would not build a new computer overclocked. -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)
On Saturday 19 July 2003 02:55 am, aron smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 23:55, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Friday 18 July 2003 09:08 am, aron smith wrote: what would be the best system that one could put together for under $1,000.00 USD Rules of the game 1 Commercially available Hardware (no surplus SGI 2 It has to run Mandraike : How about this? I decided to let you recycle your monitor, keyboard, NIC, and speakers, and set this little multimedia rockstar up for you: $163.00 AMD Athlon XP2800 333 MHz FSB $146.00 2 sticks PC3200 DDR 512 Mb $84.00 Asus A7N8X Mobo (has onboard LAN and Sound not supported by Mandrake yet) otherwise its a totally rockin' board. $176.00 Seagate Cheetah 73.4Gb SCSI 1RPM $31.00 Samsung 12xDVD/40xCD $45.00 Mitsumi 54x-32x-54x CDRW $158.00 Geforce 4 4400Ti 8xAGP $82.00 Creative SB Audigy2- 6.1 $885.00 Total You will need a SCSI card for this system that is not in this quote. I build up a system with a XP2100, 512 Mb, GeForce 440Mx, and SBLive Card on the A7N8X, and it rocks, and cost me about $550. This is a higher end dream system that I would like to own. But I doubt that my wife would let me buy it. Rob Rocks Alternatevly go the other way how cheap can you go? We have to use the advantages that we have Swap out the components in my specing for the components in my machine, and you will drop down in the $500 to 600 range. -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:24:30 -0700 Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 19 July 2003 02:55 am, aron smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 23:55, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Friday 18 July 2003 09:08 am, aron smith wrote: what would be the best system that one could put together for under $1,000.00 USD Rules of the game 1 Commercially available Hardware (no surplus SGI 2 It has to run Mandraike : How about this? I decided to let you recycle your monitor, keyboard, NIC, and speakers, and set this little multimedia rockstar up for you: $163.00 AMD Athlon XP2800 333 MHz FSB $146.00 2 sticks PC3200 DDR 512 Mb $84.00Asus A7N8X Mobo (has onboard LAN and Sound not supported by Mandrake yet) otherwise its a totally rockin' board. $176.00 Seagate Cheetah 73.4Gb SCSI 1RPM $31.00Samsung 12xDVD/40xCD $45.00Mitsumi 54x-32x-54x CDRW $158.00 Geforce 4 4400Ti 8xAGP $82.00Creative SB Audigy2- 6.1 $885.00 Total You will need a SCSI card for this system that is not in this quote. I build up a system with a XP2100, 512 Mb, GeForce 440Mx, and SBLive Card on the A7N8X, and it rocks, and cost me about $550. This is a higher end dream system that I would like to own. But I doubt that my wife would let me buy it. Rob Rocks Alternatevly go the other way how cheap can you go? We have to use the advantages that we have Swap out the components in my specing for the components in my machine, and you will drop down in the $500 to 600 range. Very Good but you people can do better than that lets add another rule It is a system that you are setting up for a computer Illerate friend. : ain't I evil -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)
On Saturday 19 July 2003 01:08 pm, John Drouhard wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:40:44 -0400 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 19 July 2003 02:55 am, Rob Blomquist wrote: $163.00 AMD Athlon XP2800 333 MHz FSB Or you could get yourself a TbredB 1700+ for $45 and clock it to 2400+ at 333fsb. That processor comes multiplier unlocked and is the easiest overclock that ever existed. I'm also looking for a new processor and motherboard. What if I got a 2400+, how much could I overclock that? I want to have good performance for games and office apps. The 1700+ is a particularly good overclocker, so I don't think you'd get the same kind of percentage increase with a 2400+, but check out the forums at overclockers.com for more info on that. $84.00 Asus A7N8X Mobo (has onboard LAN and Sound not supported by Mandrake yet) otherwise its a totally rockin' board. Or if you want total compatibility without messing around, a KT400 board is fully supported and the lan and sound will both work. I was thinking along the lines of a Soyo Dragon Ultra KT400 or Soyo Dragon Lite. What are the main differences between these two? I run the Soyo Dragon Ultra Black edition. It works flawlessly in Linux, and will take the Barton core processors. The only thing that does not work is the Highpoint RAID controller which is a windows only thing. It works fine as an additional IDE controller though. I think the difference betwen the Ultra and the light is an onboard nic and the extra Highpoint controller. The nforce2 boards are nice, but if you are a purist and don't like closed source drivers, you won;t get full function -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Dream system(simi OT)
what would be the best system that one could put together for under $1,000.00 USD Rules of the game 1 Commercially available Hardware (no surplus SGI 2 It has to run Mandraike : Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 02:08, aron smith wrote: what would be the best system that one could put together for under $1,000.00 USD Rules of the game 1 Commercially available Hardware (no surplus SGI 2 It has to run Mandraike : What about a nice surplus iMac? -- Sat Jul 19 15:04:59 EST 2003 15:04:59 up 5 days, 7:08, 2 users, load average: 0.57, 0.37, 0.24 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * BOFH excuse #362: Plasma conduit breach Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
