Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
There is a swap partition of about 150 MB. I am running with 128 MB of ram. Wade - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:53 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome I would suggest running with standard security until you understand your system a lot better. On 'High' the Mandrake security system (msec) is going to make quite a lot of restrictions on you. Not being able to log in as root is just one of them. As I said 'Standard' is still pretty darn secure. This is out of date, but still interesting http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/msec.php You can switch between security levels from Mandrake Control Centre. Trouble is you need to have X working before you can see it. The command 'df' will tell you how much free space you have on your partitions. And finally. Did you create a swap partition? How big, and how much memory do you have? derek On Wednesday 25 Jun 2003 2:33 am, Wade Waldron wrote: I have selected Higher Security, since I am considering using my system as a web server at some point (after I have a much more indepth knowledge). The partition I am using is approximately 1.7GB in size. I did a very minimal install when I installed Linux. I installed the internet package, as well as both Gnome and KDE, but nothing else. I should have had at least 1GB of space left. Wade SNIP -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 14:43, Wade Waldron wrote: Okay, some progress. I managed to login as root. I think I was just logging in at the wrong place. Checked /var/log/messages. From there I found out that the sequence of messages leading up to the error was: 1. Jun 23 18:09:07 localhost kde3 (pam_unix)[12697]: session opened for user root by (uid=0) 2. Jun 23 18:09:07 [22437]: warning: can't get client address: transport endpoint is not connected 3. Jun 23 19:09:07 localhost xinetd[22437]:libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from no address 4. Jun 23 18:09:07 localhostrc: stopping kheader succeeded The last 3 messages loop over and over with changes in the numbers but identical otherwise ( I tried to reproduce the messages as closely as possible, but they may vary slightly). These messages repeat until I reboot the system. Can any one decipher these and explain what is happening? I still curious on how exactly you try to start XWindows when you're logging in...have you installed XTart yet, or are you just using startx to start your XWindow session? -- Tue Jun 24 16:05:00 EST 2003 16:05:00 up 3 days, 1:15, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Salut ca fart' Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
On Tuesday 24 Jun 2003 1:20 am, Wade Waldron wrote: I have tried to run both KDE and Gnome and get hung up on either. They start to load and then just stop and the system hangs. I have pressed Alt Ctrl F1 to get to a prompt. From here I pressed the windows key on my keyboard. This brings up a list of errors which are scrolling by so fast I can not read them. I have been able to make out part of the error. It says localhost xinetd [A seemingly random number] sgi fam PID [A process number I assume] from no address I can not tell what is here local host is not connected It also flashes warning: can't get client address although I can not tell where this fits in. Does anyone know what this error means and how I can stop it? I should note that the number for xinetd and PID both change each time the message flashes. It seems like the system gets hung up because it is trying to perform an operation but keeps failing so it tries again. Incidentally, someone suggested that I look in var/log/messages. I tried, but I can not access the file because I do not have permission. I tried to login as root, but that does not seem to work. The login prompt I am recieving is localhost login: when I enter root and the password it tells me incorrect login. I know the password is correct so am I also doing something wrong here? Please, any help would be very much appreciated. Wade When you installed did you select 'High Security' ? If so then console logins as root are not permitted. You can get around the issue by logging in as a normal user then entering su enter followed by root password. You will then become root user. ( If you have selected High Security, then it is really over the top for a desktop system. Standard Security is much more secure than any Windows System you have used.) As for your messages 'fam' is a process which checks to see if disc partitions are full. So I wonder if you have installed in a partition that is too small. (or have installed too much) HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
I have selected Higher Security, since I am considering using my system as a web server at some point (after I have a much more indepth knowledge). The partition I am using is approximately 1.7GB in size. I did a very minimal install when I installed Linux. I installed the internet package, as well as both Gnome and KDE, but nothing else. I should have had at least 1GB of space left. Wade - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome On Tuesday 24 Jun 2003 1:20 am, Wade Waldron wrote: I have tried to run both KDE and Gnome and get hung up on either. They start to load and then just stop and the system hangs. I have pressed Alt Ctrl F1 to get to a prompt. From here I pressed the windows key on my keyboard. This brings up a list of errors which are scrolling by so fast I can not read them. I have been able to make out part of the error. It says localhost xinetd [A seemingly random number] sgi fam PID [A process number I assume] from no address I can not tell what is here local host is not connected It also flashes warning: can't get client address although I can not tell where this fits in. Does anyone know what this error means and how I can stop it? I should note that the number for xinetd and PID both change each time the message flashes. It seems like the system gets hung up because it is trying to perform an operation but keeps failing so it tries again. Incidentally, someone suggested that I look in var/log/messages. I tried, but I can not access the file because I do not have permission. I tried to login as root, but that does not seem to work. The login prompt I am recieving is localhost login: when I enter root and the password it tells me incorrect login. I know the password is correct so am I also doing something wrong here? Please, any help would be very much appreciated. Wade When you installed did you select 'High Security' ? If so then console logins as root are not permitted. You can get around the issue by logging in as a normal user then entering su enter followed by root password. You will then become root user. ( If you have selected High Security, then it is really over the top for a desktop system. Standard Security is much more secure than any Windows System you have used.) As for your messages 'fam' is a process which checks to see if disc partitions are full. So I wonder if you have installed in a partition that is too small. (or have installed too much) HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
Currently, my system is automatically configured to start XWindows when it boots. Before my current install I had tried to do it using just startx. I have not installed XTart to my knowledge. Wade - Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 14:43, Wade Waldron wrote: Okay, some progress. I managed to login as root. I think I was just logging in at the wrong place. Checked /var/log/messages. From there I found out that the sequence of messages leading up to the error was: 1. Jun 23 18:09:07 localhost kde3 (pam_unix)[12697]: session opened for user root by (uid=0) 2. Jun 23 18:09:07 [22437]: warning: can't get client address: transport endpoint is not connected 3. Jun 23 19:09:07 localhost xinetd[22437]:libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from no address 4. Jun 23 18:09:07 localhostrc: stopping kheader succeeded The last 3 messages loop over and over with changes in the numbers but identical otherwise ( I tried to reproduce the messages as closely as possible, but they may vary slightly). These messages repeat until I reboot the system. Can any one decipher these and explain what is happening? I still curious on how exactly you try to start XWindows when you're logging in...have you installed XTart yet, or are you just using startx to start your XWindow session? -- Tue Jun 24 16:05:00 EST 2003 16:05:00 up 3 days, 1:15, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Salut ca fart' Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
I have tried to run both KDE and Gnome and get hung up on either. They start to load and then just stop and the system hangs. I have pressed Alt Ctrl F1 to get to a prompt. From here I pressed the windows key on my keyboard. This brings up a list of errors which are scrolling by so fast I can not read them. I have been able to make out part of the error. It says "localhost xinetd [A seemingly random number] sgi fam PID [A process number I assume] from no address I can not tell what is here local host is not connected" It also flashes "warning: can't get client address" although I can not tell where this fits in. Does anyone know what this error means and how I can stop it? I should note that the number for xinetd and PID both change each time the message flashes. It seems like the system gets hung up because it is trying to perform an operation but keeps failing so it tries again. Incidentally, someone suggested that I look in var/log/messages. I tried, but I can not access the file because I do not have permission. I tried to login as root, but that does not seem to work. The login prompt I am recieving is "localhost login: "when I enter root and the password it tells me incorrect login. I know the password is correct so am I also doing something wrong here? Please, any help would be very much appreciated. Wade
Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 10:20, Wade Waldron wrote: I have tried to run both KDE and Gnome and get hung up on either. They start to load and then just stop and the system hangs. I have pressed Alt Ctrl F1 to get to a prompt. From here I pressed the windows key on my keyboard. This brings up a list of errors which are scrolling by so fast I can not read them. I have been able to make out part of the error. It says localhost xinetd [A seemingly random number] sgi fam PID [A process number I assume] from no address I can not tell what is here local host is not connected It also flashes warning: can't get client address although I can not tell where this fits in. Does anyone know what this error means and how I can stop it? I should note that the number for xinetd and PID both change each time the message flashes. It seems like the system gets hung up because it is trying to perform an operation but keeps failing so it tries again. Incidentally, someone suggested that I look in var/log/messages. I tried, but I can not access the file because I do not have permission. I tried to login as root, but that does not seem to work. The login prompt I am recieving is localhost login: when I enter root and the password it tells me incorrect login. I know the password is correct so am I also doing something wrong here? Please, any help would be very much appreciated. Wade Something is definitely wrong if you can't login as root - if anything, you can boot from the first CD, choose F1 at the initial prompt, then choose to run the linux resuce - once logged on, you can run passwd to change the root password and verify that you can login properly. If you can get that done, then, after booting normally, login to the system as root again, and see if you can access the /var/log/messages -- Tue Jun 24 10:55:00 EST 2003 10:55:00 up 2 days, 20:05, 3 users, load average: 0.19, 0.38, 0.37 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The reason they're called wisdom teeth is that the experience makes you wise. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 13:26, Wade Waldron wrote: Tried to run passwd from rescue. The file is listed in /etc. It does not have * beside it, implying that it is not runnable. When I type the name, it does not work because it is not runnable. So now what? Wade Sorry - you should probably mount the system: chroot /mnt/syslinux (or however yours is setup) THEN you can successfully run passwd -- Tue Jun 24 14:30:00 EST 2003 14:30:00 up 2 days, 23:40, 3 users, load average: 0.23, 0.24, 0.11 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Where's SANDY DUNCAN? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
This is a PIA, but, there is a way to recover a system without a password (digging through old notes--I've done this, I know I have it somewhere)--oh, here it is: 1. reboot and type: linux init=/bin/sh rw 2. at the Lilo boot prompt (if you are using Grub hit the 'e' key twice and add init=/bin/sh rw to the boot command and then enter and 'b' to boot This will boot into the non-protected minimal root shell. 3. Once the sysem is up, type vi /etc/passwd Have a look at this file. It can't contain any blank lines, comments or non_ASCII characters. If you find any, delete them (x). The entry for 'root' must look exactly like this: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash If it's not, change it with the insert command (i) and save the file (ESC and then :wq!). 4. Check permissions with ls -l /etc/passwd They should be -rw-r--r--. 5. Run #vi /etc/shadow The format of entries in '/etc/shadow' is [accountname]:[password]:[other stuff] etc root:$1$KODLG[etc]:10979:0:9:7::: The password entry is encrypted. Delete it by moving the cursor to the first character of the password (usually the first '$') and typingdw Now type wq! to save the file. 6. Look at /etc/securettywhich should contain entries for tty1 through tty6 7. Ownership of /root/.bash_profile, /root/.bashrc, and /etc/gettydefs must be 'root' and must be read/writable by root. 8. Type the command sync mount -o remount,ro / This writes the buffer content to disk and remounts the partition read-only. 9. Press CTRL-ALT-DEL to reboot 10. At login, type 'root' for the account name and hit ENTER at the 'password' prompt. Type passwdto give root' a password You should be able to troubleshoot your problems as 'root', now. On Monday 23 June 2003 08:26 pm, Wade Waldron wrote: Tried to run passwd from rescue. The file is listed in /etc. It does not have * beside it, implying that it is not runnable. When I type the name, it does not work because it is not runnable. So now what? Wade Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
Okay, some progress. I managed to login as root. I think I was just logging in at the wrong place. Checked /var/log/messages. From there I found out that the sequence of messages leading up to the error was: 1. Jun 23 18:09:07 localhost kde3 (pam_unix)[12697]: session opened for user root by (uid=0) 2. Jun 23 18:09:07 [22437]: warning: can't get client address: transport endpoint is not connected 3. Jun 23 19:09:07 localhost xinetd[22437]:libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from no address 4. Jun 23 18:09:07 localhostrc: stopping kheader succeeded The last 3 messages loop over and over with changes in the numbers but identical otherwise ( I tried to reproduce the messages as closely as possible, but they may vary slightly). These messages repeat until I reboot the system. Can any one decipher these and explain what is happening? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
