Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Monday 27 May 2002 10:12 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Gerald: I got the same rpm from www.rpmfind.net; it worked fine for me. What KDE are you running? -- cmg I am using KDE 2.2.1-7 It installed with my Mandrake 3 CD set. I found this URL for the rpm, but it won't download. ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/8.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS//kdebase-nsplugins-2.2.1-7mdk.i586.rpm Does anyone happen to have this RPM? And can I get it. -- Gerald Waugh http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com :: Phone. [011] 203.785.0699 Front Street Networks LLC | SOHO Networks, Web Site Hosting, Cobalt Consulting 229 Front Street, Ste. #C, New Haven, CT, 06513-3203 United States:wq Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Tuesday 28 May 2002 02:04 am, Gerald Waugh opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I am using KDE 2.2.1-7 It installed with my Mandrake 3 CD set. I found this URL for the rpm, but it won't download. ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/8.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS//kdebase-nsplugin s-2.2.1-7mdk.i586.rpm Does anyone happen to have this RPM? And can I get it. if you have the 3 cd set the nsplugins rpm should be on your cds. if you don't see it with software manager have a look manually. it should be there. since i still have the 8.1 cds _somewhere_ here i can get it to you if you still can't find it. -- I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system of all time. -Bill Gates shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 17:44, shane wrote: On Tuesday 28 May 2002 02:04 am, Gerald Waugh opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I am using KDE 2.2.1-7 It installed with my Mandrake 3 CD set. I found this URL for the rpm, but it won't download. ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/8.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS//kdebase-nsplugin s-2.2.1-7mdk.i586.rpm Does anyone happen to have this RPM? And can I get it. if you have the 3 cd set the nsplugins rpm should be on your cds. if you don't see it with software manager have a look manually. it should be there. since i still have the 8.1 cds _somewhere_ here i can get it to you if you still can't find it. Try ftp://sunsite.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr/pub/linux/mandrake/8.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS If that doesn't work you can also use http. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Tuesday 28 May 2002 04:30 pm, Robin wrote: On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 17:44, shane wrote: On Tuesday 28 May 2002 02:04 am, Gerald Waugh opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I am using KDE 2.2.1-7 It installed with my Mandrake 3 CD set. I found this URL for the rpm, but it won't download. ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/8.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS//kdebase-nsplug in s-2.2.1-7mdk.i586.rpm Does anyone happen to have this RPM? And can I get it. if you have the 3 cd set the nsplugins rpm should be on your cds. if you don't see it with software manager have a look manually. it should be there. since i still have the 8.1 cds _somewhere_ here i can get it to you if you still can't find it. Try ftp://sunsite.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr/pub/linux/mandrake/8.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS If that doesn't work you can also use http. Thank you Sir Robin and it works -- Gerald Waugh http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com :: Phone. [011] 203.785.0699 Front Street Networks LLC | SOHO Networks Web Site Hosting 229 Front Street, Ste. #C, New Haven, CT, 06513-3203 United States Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 12:56, Gerald Waugh wrote: On Saturday 25 May 2002 11:32 pm, Brian Parish wrote: Carroll, OK - I have it working! Turned out that there were two problems: 1. Some plugins from mozilla were somehow getting in on the act and confusing things. 2. By installing kdebase-plugins, I thought I was installing flash. It was only when reading your message that I realized there must be an additional rpm for flash. So, to make it work, I only had to install the flash rpm using software manager, remove all the paths in Konq for plugins apart from /usr/lib/netscape/plugins, then scan. Thanks for your perseverance! Brian I looked in help and found the following, Netscape® Plugins Currently, Konqueror supports Netscape® 4.x plugins. If you select Preferences-Web Browsing-Netscape Plugins from the K menu you will get a dialog box with two tabbed pages; Scan and Plugins. I can't do this because I don't have Netscape Plugins option. WHY? -- Gerald Waugh Have you installed the kdebase-nsplugins rpm? Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 12:56, Gerald Waugh wrote: On Saturday 25 May 2002 11:32 pm, Brian Parish wrote: Carroll, OK - I have it working! Turned out that there were two problems: 1. Some plugins from mozilla were somehow getting in on the act and confusing things. 2. By installing kdebase-plugins, I thought I was installing flash. It was only when reading your message that I realized there must be an additional rpm for flash. So, to make it work, I only had to install the flash rpm using software manager, remove all the paths in Konq for plugins apart from /usr/lib/netscape/plugins, then scan. Thanks for your perseverance! Brian I looked in help and found the following, Netscape® Plugins Currently, Konqueror supports Netscape® 4.x plugins. If you select Preferences-Web Browsing-Netscape Plugins from the K menu you will get a dialog box with two tabbed pages; Scan and Plugins. I can't do this because I don't have Netscape Plugins option. WHY? -- Gerald Waugh BTW, I have given up on Konq for flash stuff. Even after getting it going, whether I used 4.0 or 5.0 plugins, I found it freezing up frequently on sites using flash. Galeon works just fine, so my kids can neopet using that. cheers Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Monday 27 May 2002 09:53 am, you wrote: On Monday 27 May 2002 08:42 am, Brian Parish wrote: On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 12:56, Gerald Waugh wrote: I looked in help and found the following, Netscape® Plugins Currently, Konqueror supports Netscape® 4.x plugins. If you select Preferences-Web Browsing-Netscape Plugins from the K menu you will get a dialog box with two tabbed pages; Scan and Plugins. I can't do this because I don't have Netscape Plugins option. WHY? Have you installed the kdebase-nsplugins rpm? No, I looked in software-manager and did a search but I could not find it,. I found and tried this one, but it don't like my version of KDE rpm -ivh kdebase-nsplugins-2.2.2-93mdk.i586.rpm Gerald: OK, what I did was based on Flash 5.0, KDE 2.2.2 and Mandrake 8.2 (fresh install -- pretty much workstation default). Reckon that's a clue? On a more serious note, I don't understand why it's necessary to jump through all of these hoops just so a two-year-old can watch Tebo slide down Clifford's back. There's just gotta be an easier way; makes me wish I knew something about programming. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 18:46, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On a more serious note, I don't understand why it's necessary to jump through all of these hoops just so a two-year-old can watch Tebo slide down Clifford's back. There's just gotta be an easier way; makes me wish I knew something about programming. Time for some kind person to write a Flash wizard! In my own case, I don't really need or want flash - I'd just like something that will zap websites that write their jaascript so badly that my screen fills up with dozens of invitations to download Flash. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Monday 27 May 2002 08:42 am, Brian Parish wrote: On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 12:56, Gerald Waugh wrote: I looked in help and found the following, Netscape® Plugins Currently, Konqueror supports Netscape® 4.x plugins. If you select Preferences-Web Browsing-Netscape Plugins from the K menu you will get a dialog box with two tabbed pages; Scan and Plugins. I can't do this because I don't have Netscape Plugins option. WHY? Have you installed the kdebase-nsplugins rpm? No, I looked in software-manager and did a search but I could not find it,. I found and tried this one, but it don't like my version of KDE rpm -ivh kdebase-nsplugins-2.2.2-93mdk.i586.rpm [root@gail gerald]# rpm -ivh kdebase-nsplugins-2.2.2-93mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: /kdebasekdebase = 2.2.2-93mdk is needed by kdebase-nsplugins-2.2.2-93mdk /kdebas libpng.so.3 is needed by kdebase-nsplugins-2.2.2-93mdk I get the above error when I try to rpm -ivh kdebase-nsplugins-2.2.2-93mdk.i586.rpm -- Gerald Waugh http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com :: Phone. [011] 203.785.0699 Front Street Networks LLC | SOHO Networks, Web Site Hosting, Cobalt Consulting 229 Front Street, Ste. #C, New Haven, CT, 06513-3203 United States:wq Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Saturday 25 May 2002 11:32 pm, Brian Parish wrote: Carroll, OK - I have it working! Turned out that there were two problems: 1. Some plugins from mozilla were somehow getting in on the act and confusing things. 2. By installing kdebase-plugins, I thought I was installing flash. It was only when reading your message that I realized there must be an additional rpm for flash. So, to make it work, I only had to install the flash rpm using software manager, remove all the paths in Konq for plugins apart from /usr/lib/netscape/plugins, then scan. Thanks for your perseverance! Brian I looked in help and found the following, Netscape® Plugins Currently, Konqueror supports Netscape® 4.x plugins. If you select Preferences-Web Browsing-Netscape Plugins from the K menu you will get a dialog box with two tabbed pages; Scan and Plugins. I can't do this because I don't have Netscape Plugins option. WHY? -- Gerald Waugh http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com :: Phone. [011] 203.785.0699 Front Street Networks LLC | SOHO Networks, Web Site Hosting, Cobalt Consulting 229 Front Street, Ste. #C, New Haven, CT, 06513-3203 United States:wq Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
Brian: When I ran nspluginscan, a bunch of unfriendly messages also flew by, but I decided to ignore them, and so far I have not had any problems. Let's make sure we're talking about the same things here -- I have a (fairly) clean new install of 8.2 and KDE 2.2.2. I installed Flash from the PowerPack Commercial CD. (Netscape 6 had already been installed.) This put ShockwaveFlash.class and libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/netscape/plugins; it also put README and readme.html in /usr/share/doc/FlashPlayer-5.0. I then downloaded kdebase-plugins-2.2.2-93mdk.i586.rpm and installed it with Software Manager, ran nspluginscan and rebooted. After that, it was just a matter of running the Scan for new plugins function from Konquer -- Settings -- Configure -- Netscape Plugins. Possible problems: 1. Check that /usr/lib/netscape/plugins does contain the two Flash files mentioned above. It's possible that Flash may have put them someplace else -- perhaps a /flash_linux directory. 2. Did you close and re-open KDE after running nspluginscan? (Hmm -- my notes show that I did a reboot -- old habits are hard to break. Think it makes any difference?) 3. Did then you run the Scan for new plugins in Konqueror? -- cmg On Thursday 23 May 2002 10:30 pm, you wrote: Sorry to have appeared dim here, but after another careful look I think maybe it's not me - something is screwy. I have visited the path you describe before (also available from the KDE config menu). After clicking on the Scan for nsplugins button I see under the plugins tab: Mozilla's real audio plugin Mozilla's pdf plugin Netscape's real audio plugin Netscape's pdf plugin No flash or whatever. For the record, when I run nspluginscan, I get: kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined symbol: NP_GetValue kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/lib/netscape/plugins/raclass.zip: file=/usr/lib/netscape/plugins/raclass.zip: /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/raclass.zip: invalid ELF header kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined symbol: NP_GetValue kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so: file=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so: /usr/lib/lib1: shared object not open kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined symbol: NP_GetValue kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/raclass.zip: file=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/raclass.zip: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/raclass.zip: invalid ELF header kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined symbol: NP_GetValue A look at the rpm shows that the plugin files end up in /usr/lib. Presumably they are linked to other locations, but just for fun I added /usr/lib to the paths in the nsplugins window and clicked the scan button again. Took a long time, but eventually it finished and made no difference at all. Still the same four listed in the plugins windows. Still no flash. Any more ideas anyone? Can anyone shed some light on whether the warnings from nspluginscan are normal or fatal? TIA Brian On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 01:04, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Brian: Open Konqueror. Select Settings and then Configure Konqueror. There should be a Netscape Plugins icon in the left hand column. Open it; there will be a sheet with two tabs. On the Scan tab, click Scan for Nsplugins. Then, under the Plugin tab, there will be a list -- mine shows that the Shockwave Flash and FutureSplash Player have been installed. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
Brian: If I may chip in my two cents worth I've had a great deal of success with flash by downloading the Macromedia Flash Player from http://macromedia.com to my home directory and just unpacking the files there. This will leave you with /home/myname/flash_linux folder, then the directory to be scanned for plugins in my case as /home/tom/flash_linux. Substitute the myname for whatever you've named your home directory of course. Works flawlessly for me. Tom On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 11:19, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Brian: When I ran nspluginscan, a bunch of unfriendly messages also flew by, but I decided to ignore them, and so far I have not had any problems. Let's make sure we're talking about the same things here -- I have a (fairly) clean new install of 8.2 and KDE 2.2.2. I installed Flash from the PowerPack Commercial CD. (Netscape 6 had already been installed.) This put ShockwaveFlash.class and libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/netscape/plugins; it also put README and readme.html in /usr/share/doc/FlashPlayer-5.0. I then downloaded kdebase-plugins-2.2.2-93mdk.i586.rpm and installed it with Software Manager, ran nspluginscan and rebooted. After that, it was just a matter of running the Scan for new plugins function from Konquer -- Settings -- Configure -- Netscape Plugins. Possible problems: 1. Check that /usr/lib/netscape/plugins does contain the two Flash files mentioned above. It's possible that Flash may have put them someplace else -- perhaps a /flash_linux directory. 2. Did you close and re-open KDE after running nspluginscan? (Hmm -- my notes show that I did a reboot -- old habits are hard to break. Think it makes any difference?) 3. Did then you run the Scan for new plugins in Konqueror? -- cmg On Thursday 23 May 2002 10:30 pm, you wrote: Sorry to have appeared dim here, but after another careful look I think maybe it's not me - something is screwy. I have visited the path you describe before (also available from the KDE config menu). After clicking on the Scan for nsplugins button I see under the plugins tab: Mozilla's real audio plugin Mozilla's pdf plugin Netscape's real audio plugin Netscape's pdf plugin No flash or whatever. For the record, when I run nspluginscan, I get: kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined symbol: NP_GetValue kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/lib/netscape/plugins/raclass.zip: file=/usr/lib/netscape/plugins/raclass.zip: /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/raclass.zip: invalid ELF header kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined symbol: NP_GetValue kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so: file=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so: /usr/lib/lib1: shared object not open kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined symbol: NP_GetValue kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/raclass.zip: file=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/raclass.zip: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/raclass.zip: invalid ELF header kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined symbol: NP_GetValue A look at the rpm shows that the plugin files end up in /usr/lib. Presumably they are linked to other locations, but just for fun I added /usr/lib to the paths in the nsplugins window and clicked the scan button again. Took a long time, but eventually it finished and made no difference at all. Still the same four listed in the plugins windows. Still no flash. Any more ideas anyone? Can anyone shed some light on whether the warnings from nspluginscan are normal or fatal? TIA Brian On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 01:04, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Brian: Open Konqueror. Select Settings and then Configure Konqueror. There should be a Netscape Plugins icon in the left hand column. Open it; there will be a sheet with two tabs. On the Scan tab, click Scan for Nsplugins. Then, under the Plugin tab, there will be a list -- mine shows that the Shockwave Flash and FutureSplash Player have been installed. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Tom Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Saturday 25 May 2002 01:47 pm, Tom wrote: Brian: If I may chip in my two cents worth I've had a great deal of success with flash by downloading the Macromedia Flash Player from http://macromedia.com to my home directory and just unpacking the files there. This will leave you with /home/myname/flash_linux folder, then the directory to be scanned for plugins in my case as /home/tom/flash_linux. Substitute the myname for whatever you've named your home directory of course. Works flawlessly for me. Tom Tom: But does this work in Konqueror? I see that you use Ximian Evolution, and that's a somewhat different kettle of fish. The hassle Brian's having is not so much installing Flash as it is getting Konq to find it. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
Tom: How did you convince Konqueror that Flash was available? I didn't have any problems installing Flash in Mandrake 8.1. Perhaps that's because 8.1 installed Netscape 4.x as part of the default installation, so that the necessary file structure was present when Flash was installed. In 8.2, however, Netscape is _not_ installed unless it is explicitly specified (which I didn't do). Konqueror seems to want the necessary Flash references installed in /netscape/plugins. And, if you don't go through the kdebase-nsplugins installation and then run nspluginscan, there isn't any way to tell Konqueror to look for Flash -- at least from the GUI side. -- cmg On Saturday 25 May 2002 10:36 pm, you wrote: Carrol, Sorry, I should have clarified that, yes it does work extremely well for Konqueror. Tom On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 16:41, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Saturday 25 May 2002 01:47 pm, Tom wrote: Brian: If I may chip in my two cents worth I've had a great deal of success with flash by downloading the Macromedia Flash Player from http://macromedia.com to my home directory and just unpacking the files there. This will leave you with /home/myname/flash_linux folder, then the directory to be scanned for plugins in my case as /home/tom/flash_linux. Substitute the myname for whatever you've named your home directory of course. Works flawlessly for me. Tom Tom: But does this work in Konqueror? I see that you use Ximian Evolution, and that's a somewhat different kettle of fish. The hassle Brian's having is not so much installing Flash as it is getting Konq to find it. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
Carroll, I removed all the defaults from Konqueror then clicked on add new and that brought up my /home/tom, double clicked on flash_linux and basically gave Konqueror no other options when I scanned for plugins. BTW, this is Flash 5.0 also, I also copy it to my mozilla plugins. My nine year old son likes to visit a site or two that Flash 4.0 can't seem to deal with. Tom On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 22:43, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Tom: How did you convince Konqueror that Flash was available? I didn't have any problems installing Flash in Mandrake 8.1. Perhaps that's because 8.1 installed Netscape 4.x as part of the default installation, so that the necessary file structure was present when Flash was installed. In 8.2, however, Netscape is _not_ installed unless it is explicitly specified (which I didn't do). Konqueror seems to want the necessary Flash references installed in /netscape/plugins. And, if you don't go through the kdebase-nsplugins installation and then run nspluginscan, there isn't any way to tell Konqueror to look for Flash -- at least from the GUI side. -- cmg On Saturday 25 May 2002 10:36 pm, you wrote: Carrol, Sorry, I should have clarified that, yes it does work extremely well for Konqueror. Tom On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 16:41, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Saturday 25 May 2002 01:47 pm, Tom wrote: Brian: If I may chip in my two cents worth I've had a great deal of success with flash by downloading the Macromedia Flash Player from http://macromedia.com to my home directory and just unpacking the files there. This will leave you with /home/myname/flash_linux folder, then the directory to be scanned for plugins in my case as /home/tom/flash_linux. Substitute the myname for whatever you've named your home directory of course. Works flawlessly for me. Tom Tom: But does this work in Konqueror? I see that you use Ximian Evolution, and that's a somewhat different kettle of fish. The hassle Brian's having is not so much installing Flash as it is getting Konq to find it. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Tom Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 14:32, Tom Sparks wrote: Carroll, I removed all the defaults from Konqueror then clicked on add new and that brought up my /home/tom, double clicked on flash_linux and basically gave Konqueror no other options when I scanned for plugins. BTW, this is Flash 5.0 also, I also copy it to my mozilla plugins. My nine year old son likes to visit a site or two that Flash 4.0 can't seem to deal with. Tom OK, this worked nicely for me too. You're right - the flash player that comes on the distro doesn't work at all sites. My 7 year old can now happily click away on neopets. thanks Tom and Carroll Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Thu, 23 May 2002 13:09, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 06:47 pm, you wrote: On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:25, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Brian: According to my notes, it's nspluginscan, not nsplugin. Then you'll have to close and reopen KDE. If all has gone well, the Netscape Plugins option will show up in the Konqueror configuration menu. However, I've found that those damn popups still appear on some sites. I'm not sure why, but I'm inclined to blame it on the HTML at the other end. Of course, I could be wrong on that. AFAIK, it's bad javascript. I wrote to the webmaster of a site that filled my desktop with twelve macromedia popups, and he fixed it the same day. Sir Robin Sir Robin: Thanks. As I said, I wasn't too sure if it was me or them. In cases like that, I usually take the easy way out, and blame it on them. Your comment about writing to the webmaster is interesting. When I first started using the Net (six years ago), almost every site had a link to the webmaster; failing that, there would be something like Mail us, Comments, etc. Have you noticed that those links have pretty much vanished -- particularly on major commercial sites? Not a good trend. -- cmg Carroll, many of the e-mail systems now have a catch all basket. It doesn't matter if you write to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] They get filtered to someones inbox. Of course d*[EMAIL PROTECTED] is likely to get biffed unopened. So if i find a broken link or whatever and there is no contact page i just fire the e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usually somebody gets it and fixes it. 90% or more of the time they send back a thankyou. After all if there is no such e-mail address the mail bounces and you get to know it. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
Brian: Open Konqueror. Select Settings and then Configure Konqueror. There should be a Netscape Plugins icon in the left hand column. Open it; there will be a sheet with two tabs. On the Scan tab, click Scan for Nsplugins. Then, under the Plugin tab, there will be a list -- mine shows that the Shockwave Flash and FutureSplash Player have been installed. -- cmg On Thursday 23 May 2002 09:11 am, you wrote: Hmmm. OK I ran nspluginscan - tried it both as root and as me. Gave some warnings about unresolved symbols that may or may not be significant. Logout and restart X. Konq Settings Configure Konq Konq Browser Plugins All I see is a box saying Enable plugins globally (it's ticked). Methinks I was supposed to see something more? Brian On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 00:25, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Brian: According to my notes, it's nspluginscan, not nsplugin. Then you'll have to close and reopen KDE. If all has gone well, the Netscape Plugins option will show up in the Konqueror configuration menu. However, I've found that those damn popups still appear on some sites. I'm not sure why, but I'm inclined to blame it on the HTML at the other end. Of course, I could be wrong on that. The original thread was on this list as LM 8.2, Konqueror and Flash; there was a later thread Flash in Konqueror. -- cmg On Wednesday 22 May 2002 04:06 am, Jason wrote: Hi Brian, try nsplugin at the command line I think that is what i did but it was a while ago good luck cheers jason On Wednesday 22 May 2002 17:02, Brian wrote: Maybe it's because I have a lousy cold and a foggy brain (please insert sympathy here), but shouldn't installing kdebase-nsplugins result in Konqueror finding a flash player? There must be a really obvious step that I missed. I know there was a thread on the list (or was it expert?) recently, but I'm damned if I can find it in the archives. Probably the topic was It doesn't work or something equally useful for searching. Anyway, could one of you kind people save me from the Macromedia popup curse? I don't much want flash, but I want multiple download windows even less. TIA Brian Content-Type: text/plain; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Thursday 23 May 2002 09:46 am, you wrote: On Thursday 23 May 2002 09:11 am, Brian Parish wrote: Hmmm. OK I ran nspluginscan - tried it both as root and as me. Excuse me, where did you find nspluginscan? Gerald: It's in /usr/bin. Or it will be after you install kdebase-nsplugins-2.2.2.93mdk.i586.rpm. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
Sorry to have appeared dim here, but after another careful look I think maybe it's not me - something is screwy. I have visited the path you describe before (also available from the KDE config menu). After clicking on the Scan for nsplugins button I see under the plugins tab: Mozilla's real audio plugin Mozilla's pdf plugin Netscape's real audio plugin Netscape's pdf plugin No flash or whatever. For the record, when I run nspluginscan, I get: kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined symbol: NP_GetValue kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/lib/netscape/plugins/raclass.zip: file=/usr/lib/netscape/plugins/raclass.zip: /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/raclass.zip: invalid ELF header kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined symbol: NP_GetValue kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so: file=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so: /usr/lib/lib1: shared object not open kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined symbol: NP_GetValue kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/raclass.zip: file=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/raclass.zip: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/raclass.zip: invalid ELF header kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined symbol: NP_GetValue A look at the rpm shows that the plugin files end up in /usr/lib. Presumably they are linked to other locations, but just for fun I added /usr/lib to the paths in the nsplugins window and clicked the scan button again. Took a long time, but eventually it finished and made no difference at all. Still the same four listed in the plugins windows. Still no flash. Any more ideas anyone? Can anyone shed some light on whether the warnings from nspluginscan are normal or fatal? TIA Brian On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 01:04, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Brian: Open Konqueror. Select Settings and then Configure Konqueror. There should be a Netscape Plugins icon in the left hand column. Open it; there will be a sheet with two tabs. On the Scan tab, click Scan for Nsplugins. Then, under the Plugin tab, there will be a list -- mine shows that the Shockwave Flash and FutureSplash Player have been installed. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
Maybe it's because I have a lousy cold and a foggy brain (please insert sympathy here), but shouldn't installing kdebase-nsplugins result in Konqueror finding a flash player? There must be a really obvious step that I missed. I know there was a thread on the list (or was it expert?) recently, but I'm damned if I can find it in the archives. Probably the topic was It doesn't work or something equally useful for searching. Anyway, could one of you kind people save me from the Macromedia popup curse? I don't much want flash, but I want multiple download windows even less. TIA Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
Hi Brian, try nsplugin at the command line I think that is what i did but it was a while ago good luck cheers jason On Wednesday 22 May 2002 17:02, you wrote: Maybe it's because I have a lousy cold and a foggy brain (please insert sympathy here), but shouldn't installing kdebase-nsplugins result in Konqueror finding a flash player? There must be a really obvious step that I missed. I know there was a thread on the list (or was it expert?) recently, but I'm damned if I can find it in the archives. Probably the topic was It doesn't work or something equally useful for searching. Anyway, could one of you kind people save me from the Macromedia popup curse? I don't much want flash, but I want multiple download windows even less. TIA Brian Content-Type: text/plain; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 00:02, Brian Parish opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Maybe it's because I have a lousy cold and a foggy brain (please insert sympathy here), but shouldn't installing kdebase-nsplugins result in Konqueror finding a flash player? There must be a really obvious step that I missed. if you are suffering foggy brain, first check that you have flash. :) i know that would be were i would mess up. the most obvious place, cot copying the flash files to /usr/lib/netscape/plugins then, did you run the nsplugins thing and tell it to scan for plugins? -- We know what we are, but not what we may become -William Shakespeare shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
Brian: According to my notes, it's nspluginscan, not nsplugin. Then you'll have to close and reopen KDE. If all has gone well, the Netscape Plugins option will show up in the Konqueror configuration menu. However, I've found that those damn popups still appear on some sites. I'm not sure why, but I'm inclined to blame it on the HTML at the other end. Of course, I could be wrong on that. The original thread was on this list as LM 8.2, Konqueror and Flash; there was a later thread Flash in Konqueror. -- cmg On Wednesday 22 May 2002 04:06 am, Jason wrote: Hi Brian, try nsplugin at the command line I think that is what i did but it was a while ago good luck cheers jason On Wednesday 22 May 2002 17:02, Brian wrote: Maybe it's because I have a lousy cold and a foggy brain (please insert sympathy here), but shouldn't installing kdebase-nsplugins result in Konqueror finding a flash player? There must be a really obvious step that I missed. I know there was a thread on the list (or was it expert?) recently, but I'm damned if I can find it in the archives. Probably the topic was It doesn't work or something equally useful for searching. Anyway, could one of you kind people save me from the Macromedia popup curse? I don't much want flash, but I want multiple download windows even less. TIA Brian Content-Type: text/plain; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:25, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Brian: According to my notes, it's nspluginscan, not nsplugin. Then you'll have to close and reopen KDE. If all has gone well, the Netscape Plugins option will show up in the Konqueror configuration menu. However, I've found that those damn popups still appear on some sites. I'm not sure why, but I'm inclined to blame it on the HTML at the other end. Of course, I could be wrong on that. AFAIK, it's bad javascript. I wrote to the webmaster of a site that filled my desktop with twelve macromedia popups, and he fixed it the same day. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash plugin in Konq again
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 06:47 pm, you wrote: On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 17:25, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Brian: According to my notes, it's nspluginscan, not nsplugin. Then you'll have to close and reopen KDE. If all has gone well, the Netscape Plugins option will show up in the Konqueror configuration menu. However, I've found that those damn popups still appear on some sites. I'm not sure why, but I'm inclined to blame it on the HTML at the other end. Of course, I could be wrong on that. AFAIK, it's bad javascript. I wrote to the webmaster of a site that filled my desktop with twelve macromedia popups, and he fixed it the same day. Sir Robin Sir Robin: Thanks. As I said, I wasn't too sure if it was me or them. In cases like that, I usually take the easy way out, and blame it on them. Your comment about writing to the webmaster is interesting. When I first started using the Net (six years ago), almost every site had a link to the webmaster; failing that, there would be something like Mail us, Comments, etc. Have you noticed that those links have pretty much vanished -- particularly on major commercial sites? Not a good trend. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
