Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice
- Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice Just thought I would mention this as a future aid maybe. Whenever I do an install I install from scratch, but, I always have a partition called /obj that I save all of my /home stuff that I want to keep. Like photos or mail etc. Before I wipe the disk I transfer that /home stuff to /obj and then when I format the drive I keep the /obj intact and do not reformat it. What this does is gives me a clean /var, /usr, /home and / partitions and I can pull the good stuff back into home as desired. Hope that was clear and not badly put. It does save me a problem with conflicting files as the release numbers go up. HTH. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 No that was put quite excellent. I think I do the same thing, Calling my area /storage instead. I put rpms, pics, text files, user backups, etc in there. But, Your reply raises another burning question. Something I've wondered about, And have yet to receive a satifying answer for : What is the best way to partition your drive, and Why ? Why set up / , /var , / usr , / home , What's the logic, or purpose of this ? I've set mine up with seperate partitions for / , and /user. I've also set partitions up / , and /home. also, just one partition for / . of the three ways I've done it, going / , /home seemed like the best when it came time for a reinstall , ( reload / No need to worry about / home everything is restored as it was before mucking up / ). When I went / , /usr I had to format both partitions, or neither. So I lost my / home settings. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice
On Wednesday 04 Dec 2002 10:14 am, Dennis Sue wrote: Something I've wondered about, And have yet to receive a satifying answer for : What is the best way to partition your drive, and Why ? Why set up / , /var , / usr , / home , What's the logic, or purpose of this ? I've set mine up with seperate partitions for / , and /user. I've also set partitions up / , and /home. also, just one partition for / . of the three ways I've done it, going / , /home seemed like the best when it came time for a reinstall , ( reload / No need to worry about / home everything is restored as it was before mucking up / ). When I went / , /usr I had to format both partitions, or neither. So I lost my / home settings. Supplementary question: I have /home set as a separate partition and all the rest in one. I did this because it seemed to me that this would be a more 'elastic' way, in the sense that I didn't know sensible sizes for other partitions, and I figured that just doing them as directories instead of partitions would allow them to self-adjust. Was I right? Are there any serious problems with this strategy? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [linux] Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice
On 04 December 2002 10:33 Anne Wilson said: Supplementary question: I have /home set as a separate partition and all the rest in one. I did this because it seemed to me that this would be a more 'elastic' way, in the sense that I didn't know sensible sizes for other partitions, and I figured that just doing them as directories instead of partitions would allow them to self-adjust. Was I right? Yes Are there any serious problems with this strategy? No. That is, you don't gain in efficiency and you lose in flexibility by partitioning. There might be a small gain you can make by mounting the invarient parts read-only, but I've never heard of it being done. On a fragmented disk a partitioned system would have less widely seperated fragments, but would be more likely to fragment in the first place. A related question: On a two disk system what is the best arrangement? I would guess / on the first disk, and /var and /home on the second. -- Richard Urwin, Private Confirmed as a crazy system administrator (NAG p348) This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice
goodaye, i have been looking into setting up mdk8.2 on separate partitions on a 20gb disk and found the following document extremely useful. especially section 6 which may answer many questions you have raised here. there is a mass of other info on this site, pls have a good look around. regards, russell. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Installation-HOWTO/index.html --- Dennis Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice Just thought I would mention this as a future aid maybe. Whenever I do an install I install from scratch, but, I always have a partition called /obj that I save all of my /home stuff that I want to keep. Like photos or mail etc. Before I wipe the disk I transfer that /home stuff to /obj and then when I format the drive I keep the /obj intact and do not reformat it. What this does is gives me a clean /var, /usr, /home and / partitions and I can pull the good stuff back into home as desired. Hope that was clear and not badly put. It does save me a problem with conflicting files as the release numbers go up. HTH. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 No that was put quite excellent. I think I do the same thing, Calling my area /storage instead. I put rpms, pics, text files, user backups, etc in there. But, Your reply raises another burning question. Something I've wondered about, And have yet to receive a satifying answer for : What is the best way to partition your drive, and Why ? Why set up / , /var , / usr , / home , What's the logic, or purpose of this ? I've set mine up with seperate partitions for / , and /user. I've also set partitions up / , and /home. also, just one partition for / . of the three ways I've done it, going / , /home seemed like the best when it came time for a reinstall , ( reload / No need to worry about / home everything is restored as it was before mucking up / ). When I went / , /usr I had to format both partitions, or neither. So I lost my / home settings. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com http://www.yahoo.promo.com.au/hint/ - Yahoo! Hint Dropper - Avoid getting hideous gifts this Christmas with Yahoo! Hint Dropper! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice
On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 10:48 am, Dennis Sue wrote: Hello folks, My harddrive is finally dying, and due to be replaced this weekend hopefully ). At this moment, there are only 2 good partitions left ( both Windows ). So anyway, with the new harddrive comes the opportunity to load whatever version of Linux I prefer. Up until yesterday, It was Mandrake 8.2. I liked this version, As did my wife, ( Plenty of card games, eye candy, ease of use for her, etc ). You get the point. Now, I am wondering about version 9. I am intrigued by KDE 3, and would probably like it. However, from this list it seems there are some bugs that I might not enjoy, Actually it seems like quite a few. I am wondering if it is worth it when the time comes to load version 9, or stick with 8.2, and wait for a new version say, 9.1 or something. Does version 9 have the card games like 8.2 ? Especially the gnome freecell, and Klondike ( solitaire ) ? Thank you for your input. I liked 8.2 very much.. I like 9.0 even better...I cannot think of a single problem I have had with it. Not everyones experience is the same, but just because you read of people having a problem does not mean that everyone is. (Besides which.. A lot of problems posted on this list are 'self inflicted') derek Oh and it has all the games 8.2 had plus a couple of new ones like Frozen Bubble and Tower Toppler which my kids love. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice
On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 10:48 am, Dennis Sue wrote: Hello folks, My harddrive is finally dying, and due to be replaced this weekend hopefully ). At this moment, there are only 2 good partitions left ( both Windows ). So anyway, with the new harddrive comes the opportunity to load whatever version of Linux I prefer. Up until yesterday, It was Mandrake 8.2. I liked this version, As did my wife, ( Plenty of card games, eye candy, ease of use for her, etc ). You get the point. Now, I am wondering about version 9. I am intrigued by KDE 3, and would probably like it. However, from this list it seems there are some bugs that I might not enjoy, Actually it seems like quite a few. I am wondering if it is worth it when the time comes to load version 9, or stick with 8.2, and wait for a new version say, 9.1 or something. Does version 9 have the card games like 8.2 ? Especially the gnome freecell, and Klondike ( solitaire ) ? Thank you for your input. I would say that if you can you should keep 8.2 AND install 9.0. Experiences of 9.0 have been very different. If you get a good install, as mine was, you will have few problems and you can then ditch 8.2 And yes, there are as many card games etc. as you could want Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice
Go 9.0...and learn not to blame the software always for user errors. My first move to 9.0 was a disaster, but then i learnt that there were a lot of things I did wrong!! All is smooth now..much slicker! Richard Mollel --- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 10:48 am, Dennis Sue wrote: Hello folks, My harddrive is finally dying, and due to be replaced this weekend hopefully ). At this moment, there are only 2 good partitions left ( both Windows ). So anyway, with the new harddrive comes the opportunity to load whatever version of Linux I prefer. Up until yesterday, It was Mandrake 8.2. I liked this version, As did my wife, ( Plenty of card games, eye candy, ease of use for her, etc ). You get the point. Now, I am wondering about version 9. I am intrigued by KDE 3, and would probably like it. However, from this list it seems there are some bugs that I might not enjoy, Actually it seems like quite a few. I am wondering if it is worth it when the time comes to load version 9, or stick with 8.2, and wait for a new version say, 9.1 or something. Does version 9 have the card games like 8.2 ? Especially the gnome freecell, and Klondike ( solitaire ) ? Thank you for your input. I would say that if you can you should keep 8.2 AND install 9.0. Experiences of 9.0 have been very different. If you get a good install, as mine was, you will have few problems and you can then ditch 8.2 And yes, there are as many card games etc. as you could want Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice
- Original Message - From: Tru64 User [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice Go 9.0...and learn not to blame the software always for user errors. My first move to 9.0 was a disaster, but then i learnt that there were a lot of things I did wrong!! All is smooth now..much slicker! Richard Mollel --- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 10:48 am, Dennis Sue wrote: Hello folks, My harddrive is finally dying, and due to be replaced this weekend hopefully ). At this moment, there are only 2 good partitions left ( both Windows ). So anyway, with the new harddrive comes the opportunity to load whatever version of Linux I prefer. Up until yesterday, It was Mandrake 8.2. I liked this version, As did my wife, ( Plenty of card games, eye candy, ease of use for her, etc ). You get the point. Now, I am wondering about version 9. I am intrigued by KDE 3, and would probably like it. However, from this list it seems there are some bugs that I might not enjoy, Actually it seems like quite a few. I am wondering if it is worth it when the time comes to load version 9, or stick with 8.2, and wait for a new version say, 9.1 or something. Does version 9 have the card games like 8.2 ? Especially the gnome freecell, and Klondike ( solitaire ) ? Thank you for your input. I would say that if you can you should keep 8.2 AND install 9.0. Experiences of 9.0 have been very different. If you get a good install, as mine was, you will have few problems and you can then ditch 8.2 And yes, there are as many card games etc. as you could want Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from Ok It's decided then, Mandrake 9 here we come ! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice
On Tuesday 03 December 2002 10:59 am, Dennis Sue wrote: - Original Message - From: Tru64 User [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fresh Install Advice Go 9.0...and learn not to blame the software always for user errors. My first move to 9.0 was a disaster, but then i learnt that there were a lot of things I did wrong!! All is smooth now..much slicker! Richard Mollel --- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 10:48 am, Dennis Sue wrote: Hello folks, My harddrive is finally dying, and due to be replaced this weekend hopefully ). At this moment, there are only 2 good partitions left ( both Windows ). So anyway, with the new harddrive comes the opportunity to load whatever version of Linux I prefer. Up until yesterday, It was Mandrake 8.2. I liked this version, As did my wife, ( Plenty of card games, eye candy, ease of use for her, etc ). You get the point. Now, I am wondering about version 9. I am intrigued by KDE 3, and would probably like it. However, from this list it seems there are some bugs that I might not enjoy, Actually it seems like quite a few. I am wondering if it is worth it when the time comes to load version 9, or stick with 8.2, and wait for a new version say, 9.1 or something. Does version 9 have the card games like 8.2 ? Especially the gnome freecell, and Klondike ( solitaire ) ? Thank you for your input. I would say that if you can you should keep 8.2 AND install 9.0. Experiences of 9.0 have been very different. If you get a good install, as mine was, you will have few problems and you can then ditch 8.2 And yes, there are as many card games etc. as you could want Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from Ok It's decided then, Mandrake 9 here we come ! Just thought I would mention this as a future aid maybe. Whenever I do an install I install from scratch, but, I always have a partition called /obj that I save all of my /home stuff that I want to keep. Like photos or mail etc. Before I wipe the disk I transfer that /home stuff to /obj and then when I format the drive I keep the /obj intact and do not reformat it. What this does is gives me a clean /var, /usr, /home and / partitions and I can pull the good stuff back into home as desired. Hope that was clear and not badly put. It does save me a problem with conflicting files as the release numbers go up. HTH. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
