[newbie] General advice??

2000-02-20 Thread Joerg Reinhardt


Hi,
I already tryed to make my problem clear in a mail called "help!",
but it was six in the morning, I was frustrated and it got quit chaotic,
so here is my problem struktured a little more:
- basic "anatomie" of linux

I'm experienced with MS-DOS (not Windows!), so I know what a device,
a partition, a file, and a directory is, but, how do these work to
gether in Linux?
--can I open a directory from everywhere, or do I have to "go the path"?
--are there some directorys opened from everywhere, others not?
--why are all program starters appear in /usr/bin, can I change that
?(cause it's quite full, but there are other
 partitions...)
--where does a program starter know from, where to find the other parts,
wich belong to its program?
I ask these questions, cause my installed system is working well (exept
the printer), but programs I download from the net don't! No matter if
RPM or tar.gzip, I can unpack and install these programs, they create a
lot of directorys and files, but whatever I "clik" to the program isn't
starting.
This happend with Staroffice, the Realplayer and some other programs,
they all have starters in /usr/bin, wich don't seem to start anything
(maybe cause they "don't know" where to find?), and directorys do appear
spread over the harddrive, full with files, wich theme to belong to these
programs. I can see each "Button" of the real player as .jpg for instant,
but no "setup" or "install" or something like that, and "rvplayer" wich
appears in /.usr/bin, isn't doing anything. The same with staroffice

wich is connected to what?
In DOS each program was a "standalone" using the DOSthe same way
like the others to use the hardware, each program brought it's own graphic,
sound etc. But what about Linux, different parts do "use" or "suspend"
each other, but how?
-- what is the Kernel doing?
-- what is x-free doing
-- what is the window manager doing (or is it identical with xfree
?)
-- what is a desktop manager doing (or is it identic with the window
manager ?)
-- do different window/desktop managers have same "permission" or "power"
 --can I do everything from KDE
or Gnome, or do I have to go to "Anotherlevel"
 --is there some absolute base
level like DOS under Windowns, were all other parts of the System refer
to?
I ask these questions, to find out:
--why my printer is printing the prntool testpage perfectly, but nothing
else
--why my graphics and sounds are great performing under KDE and horrible
under Gnome
--why my 5,76k-baud modem is doing not more than 1,5k-baud most of
the time (or is that normal
 "internet-speed" and a problem of providers
and to many users? (I'm brand new in the net))
Well, I know, these are still many, many questions, but what shall I
do? I'm shure I can find all these Information in man-pages or HOWTOW's
or the manual, but these informations are absolutely chaotic struktered!
Wich HOWTO to read, if you have no idear where the problem lies?
please send me help and advice, or a hint where to find these "basic"-informations.
Joerg Reinhardt
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Re: [newbie] General advice??

2000-02-20 Thread Glyn Millington

: The soul is greater than the hum of its parts


Dear Friend, 

You need to have a good look at /usr/doc and its contents, and if you can get
hold of the O'Reilly "Running Linux" by Matt Welsh Matthias Kalle Dalheimer and
Lar Kaufman (3rd edition) its worth it!

Good luck

Glyn


On Sun, Feb 20, 2000 at 01:54:41PM +, thus spake Joerg Reinhardt:
 Hi,
 I already tryed to make my problem clear in a mail called "help!", but
 it was six in the morning, I was frustrated and it got quit chaotic, so
 here is my problem struktured a little more:
 
 - basic "anatomie" of linux
 
 



Re: [newbie] General advice??

2000-02-20 Thread Joerg Reinhardt

Glyn Millington wrote:

 : The soul is greater than the hum of its parts

 Dear Friend,

 You need to have a good look at /usr/doc and its contents, and if you can get
 hold of the O'Reilly "Running Linux" by Matt Welsh Matthias Kalle Dalheimer and
 Lar Kaufman (3rd edition) its worth it!

 Good luck

 Glyn

 On Sun, Feb 20, 2000 at 01:54:41PM +, thus spake Joerg Reinhardt:
  Hi,
  I already tryed to make my problem clear in a mail called "help!", but
  it was six in the morning, I was frustrated and it got quit chaotic, so
  here is my problem struktured a little more:
 
  - basic "anatomie" of linux
 
 

Hi Glyn,
first thanks for your hint, i'll try to get the book.
Well... the /usr/doc/realplayer_5.0 directory is a nice one. Many pictures and
htm's in and an install notification, wich I already read before. It explains, how
to plug the player into the navigator, it also explains, how to use the player
itself, but it says not much about how to just start it (rvplayer in usr/bin isn't
working at all, but at least it's there.).
Did I got something wrong?? Well shure I did, but what? Is the player only working
togeter with the navigator maybe?

Please give me further advice,

thanks a lot!



Re: [newbie] General advice??

2000-02-20 Thread Lance Borden

Joerg,

After browsing through the messages to and from you, I thought I might go ahead
and add a couple of thoughts.

Books:
The O'Reilly Running Linux is available in German as well as English.
I also picked up the book Linux fuer Anwender, but didn't find it very helpful.
As a newbie I've found Linux: Installation, Configuration, Use 2nd Ed. (by
Michael Kofler) to be my favorite. Just the other day I was in a bookstore and
noticed that it is also available in German. For me, it gave the best overview,
plus a lot of practical stuff that I've used.
Finally, if you haven't seen it, CHIP published a special Linux Ausgabe in
January, which also provides some useful tips.

Real Player:
No clue on that one

Starting programs:
My first try is to use the command line (right click on the kde desktop and
select Execute Command) or console. From anywhere, just type in the name of the
program. Seems like some programs "don't like" to be started from the icons in
kfm, but will then run from a command line. Not sure why, though.

Lance