Re: [newbie] How to add session types to users
eric huff wrote: How can I add session types ( kde, gnome etc ) to users when you are not yet on desktop. I can drop to a root terminal, but what do I call ? big snip Where do I go to add these desktops to the login managers session menu ? I thin kthis is what you want. Here are excerpts from emails on Speednix (using pekwm as an example): -- From Derek: It is quite easy to get an entry in kdm,gdm,Xtart Just define a file /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19pekwm Containing :- NAME=pekwm ICON=pekwm.png EXEC=/usr/bin/pekwm (or wherever your executable is) DESC=Windowmanager based on the original blackbox-code SCRIPT: exec /usr/bin/pekwm Then pekwm will come up as an option in kdm etc as the 19th Window Manager (1 to 18 have already been defined by Mandrake) derek - From Todd: Sweet, now I have entries for fluxbox, xfce4, oroborus, and pekwm. I did have to go into /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc and add those to the list there. I couldn't find a program that would do it. I thought maybe it would scan /etc/X11/wmsession.d/ for you and update the list automagiclly. That looks like it , thanks, I will look into it some and report. John Later = [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /mnt/ext2-vol4/etc/X11/wmsession.d [EMAIL PROTECTED] wmsession.d]# ls 01KDE 02GNOME 03WindowMaker 07IceWM So, these look to be the session file scripts that boot the desktops [EMAIL PROTECTED] wmsession.d]# cat 01KDE NAME=KDE ICON=kde-wmsession.xpm DESC=The K Desktop Environment EXEC=/usr/bin/startkde SCRIPT: exec /usr/bin/startkde The Kde script [EMAIL PROTECTED] wmsession.d]# cat 02GNOME NAME=GNOME ICON=gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png DESC=GNOME Environment EXEC=/usr/bin/startgnome SCRIPT: exec /usr/bin/startgnome the gnome script [EMAIL PROTECTED] wmsession.d]# cat 03WindowMaker NAME=WindowMaker ICON=wmaker-wmsession.xpm EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/startwindowmaker DESC=Window manager which emulates the look and feel of the NeXTSTEP (TM) graphical user interface SCRIPT: exec /usr/X11R6/bin/startwindowmaker the windowmaker script [EMAIL PROTECTED] wmsession.d]# cat 07IceWM NAME=IceWM ICON=icewm-wmsession.xpm EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/starticewm DESC=Lightweight desktop environment SCRIPT: exec /usr/X11R6/bin/starticewm the icewarm script So that's how to restore session types to login window then. Thanks everyone concerned, it's always nice to know how things work, and I'm about to make a persomal note of this for future reference. John === -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to add session types to users
eric huff wrote: How can I add session types ( kde, gnome etc ) to users when you are not yet on desktop. I can drop to a root terminal, but what do I call ? big snip Where do I go to add these desktops to the login managers session menu ? I thin kthis is what you want. Here are excerpts from emails on Speednix (using pekwm as an example): -- From Derek: It is quite easy to get an entry in kdm,gdm,Xtart Just define a file /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19pekwm Containing :- NAME=pekwm ICON=pekwm.png EXEC=/usr/bin/pekwm (or wherever your executable is) DESC=Windowmanager based on the original blackbox-code SCRIPT: exec /usr/bin/pekwm Then pekwm will come up as an option in kdm etc as the 19th Window Manager (1 to 18 have already been defined by Mandrake) derek - From Todd: Sweet, now I have entries for fluxbox, xfce4, oroborus, and pekwm. I did have to go into /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc and add those to the list there. I couldn't find a program that would do it. I thought maybe it would scan /etc/X11/wmsession.d/ for you and update the list automagiclly. That looks like it , thanks, I will look into it some and report. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to add session types to users
g wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: I had this your needs if nothing posted, jrs, are you up? :) forgot yesterday was tuesday, 25 min late to golum meet. just now back in. will pull em to see if any replied to your needs. being i init 3 boot, i have not set x-wins to enabled thru user's start up files. which and how? from scanning menu doc pages thru desktop's 'linux docs' for other info, i would believe it to be in there. imbr. do you have grepmail? peace out. tc,hago. g . -- =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to add session types to users
John Richard Smith wrote: wanted to learn how to set up the graphical login window to include my session choices, ie kde, gnome and icewarm, and blackbox etc., etc. just from a quick look thru 'mandrake control center | system | user', user set up has entries for dt selections. user set up doc is in 'linux documentation' in md 9.0, may be diff vnum in md 9.1, howto's are in; howto-html-en-9.0-0.1mdk and howto-utils-0.2.9-1mdk rpms. as long as you are logging in as root, you might install doc pack, if you do not have it. it is a lot of reading, if you read all of it. but, until you do, just go thru menu pages to see what is there. then, build bookmarks to get to what you want quicker. hth. or, break them in right. install 'xstart', log them in cl with 'xstart' as login prog. :) peace out. tc,hago. g . -- =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to add session types to users
Ermm. I do not understand why this is being discussed. Whenever a new Window Manager RPM is installed an entry is automatically put into the list of Window Managers. There is no need to do anything. That of course is true so long as the RPM was a 'Mandrake' RPM The mail from me quoted below was how to get a session type for a 'non Mandrake' RPM. So if you want an entry for Blackbox for example, all you need do is urpmi blackbox derek On Friday 20 Jun 2003 8:17 am, John Richard Smith wrote: eric huff wrote: How can I add session types ( kde, gnome etc ) to users when you are not yet on desktop. I can drop to a root terminal, but what do I call ? big snip Where do I go to add these desktops to the login managers session menu ? I thin kthis is what you want. Here are excerpts from emails on Speednix (using pekwm as an example): -- From Derek: It is quite easy to get an entry in kdm,gdm,Xtart Just define a file /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19pekwm Containing :- NAME=pekwm ICON=pekwm.png EXEC=/usr/bin/pekwm (or wherever your executable is) DESC=Windowmanager based on the original blackbox-code SCRIPT: exec /usr/bin/pekwm Then pekwm will come up as an option in kdm etc as the 19th Window Manager (1 to 18 have already been defined by Mandrake) derek - From Todd: Sweet, now I have entries for fluxbox, xfce4, oroborus, and pekwm. I did have to go into /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc and add those to the list there. I couldn't find a program that would do it. I thought maybe it would scan /etc/X11/wmsession.d/ for you and update the list automagiclly. That looks like it , thanks, I will look into it some and report. John -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to add session types to users
Ermm. I do not understand why this is being discussed. Whenever a new Window Manager RPM is installed an entry is automatically put into the list of Window Managers. There is no need to do anything. That of course is true so long as the RPM was a 'Mandrake' RPM The mail from me quoted below was how to get a session type for a 'non Mandrake' RPM. I should have mentioned that. I guess i just assumed it was for something else... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How to add session types to users
How can I add session types ( kde, gnome etc ) to users when you are not yet on desktop. I can drop to a root terminal, but what do I call ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How to add session types to users
How can I add session types ( kde, gnome etc ) to users when you are not yet on desktop. I can drop to a root terminal, but what do I call ? John Later - I did, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# kde _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running Fatal server error: Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already run ning When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. This can be found in the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log. Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# GOT SIGHUP startkde: Starting up... kbuildsycoca running... running as realtime process now (priority 50) mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding ERROR: kmix: Mixer cannot be found. Please check that the soundcard is installed and that the soundcard driver is loaded. ERROR: kmix: Mixer cannot be found. Please check that the soundcard is installed and that the soundcard driver is loaded. ERROR: kmix: Mixer cannot be found. Please check that the soundcard is installed and that the soundcard driver is loaded. ERROR: kmix: Mixer cannot be found. Please check that the soundcard is installed and that the soundcard driver is loaded. ERROR: kmix: Mixer cannot be found. Please check that the soundcard is installed and that the soundcard driver is loaded. ERROR: kmix: Mixer cannot be found. Please check that the soundcard is installed and that the soundcard driver is loaded. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. ERROR: kmix: Mixer cannot be found. Please check that the soundcard is installed and that the soundcard driver is loaded. ERROR: kmix: Mixer cannot be found. Please check that the soundcard is installed and that the soundcard driver is loaded. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KActionCollection::KActionCollection( QObject *parent, const char *name, KInstance *instance ) -- Which gets me to kde desktop but not via the gui login manager which does not give me the luxury of kde or gnome etc amoungst the session types in the dropdown menu. Where do I go to add these desktops to the login managers session menu ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to add session types to users
John Richard Smith wrote: How can I add session types ( kde, gnome etc ) to users when you are not yet on desktop. I can drop to a root terminal, but what do I call ? what are you trying to accomplish? end results? do you boot cl or x? Later I did, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# kde _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running if you boot, or, where already in 'x', this is proper. need replies to above before trying below; [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# GOT SIGHUP startkde: Starting up... kbuildsycoca running... if in x, dropped how ever to cl, return with 'alt+f7'. works for me when i 'ctrl+alt+fx' [x=1,2,3,4,5,6] from x to cl. also, cyoa. be very careful playing root. ;) [how is monitor?] peace out. tc,hago. g . -- =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to add session types to users
g wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: How can I add session types ( kde, gnome etc ) to users when you are not yet on desktop. I can drop to a root terminal, but what do I call ? what are you trying to accomplish? end results? do you boot cl or x? Later I did, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# kde _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running if you boot, or, where already in 'x', this is proper. need replies to above before trying below; [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# GOT SIGHUP startkde: Starting up... kbuildsycoca running... if in x, dropped how ever to cl, return with 'alt+f7'. works for me when i 'ctrl+alt+fx' [x=1,2,3,4,5,6] from x to cl. also, cyoa. be very careful playing root. ;) [how is monitor?] peace out. tc,hago. g . Hi George, How are you. I had this experience with knoppix, ok don't laugh. Anyway the long and the short of it is that I was left with a graphical login with an odd set of users I have never ever had anything to do with, and it was not difficult in MCC ro remove these clandestined users and put back my user, fine. Trouble is something didn't just remove and replace users it eliminated my graphical desktop choices from session types. Yes I know I can boot to desktop on the Cl, I just did so, via my previous email including kde, I guess gmone will be similar. I just wanted to learn how to set up the graphical login window to include my session choices, ie kde, gnome and icewarm, and blackbox etc., etc. I gave up in the end and elected to reinstall, but that is a windblowish solution, and I just think I would like to know how to get my session choices back in the login window. That's all. About the monitor, not had a good working M9.1 dektop to work with yet, so I'm still with M9.0 for the time being. Until and unless I get that fully working M9.1 desktop I'm affraid I cannot give a definative answer. I know the screensaver is ok, that works fine. I am not sure about full screen shutdown, don't think the settern arguement applies though ? , doesn't seem to, but I do get the old involutary screen shutdown in M9.0 as before, even with the replacement screen , so it's looking OS related to me, meaning the likelyhood of an identicle problem in both monitors is extremely long odds, but one thing I have definately noticed the involuntary screen shutdown occures infrequently BUT is most often occuring with a temperature DROP, not a rise in temperature as previously thought. So if I have a warm day or too with rising temperatures , everything is OK, but just as soon as I get a drop in temperatures , it plays up for a while. so the involuntary blank screen thing seems to be monitor related, while the planned blankscreen shutdown (with the setterm command) seems to be OS related, and therein lies the crux of the matter, two problems manifesting themselves as one problem. Hope I make sense to you. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to add session types to users
John Richard Smith wrote: I had this experience with knoppix, ok don't laugh. i have had a few with k, but not like yours. I just think I would like to know how to get my session choices back in the login window. That's all. that clears it up. got me on that one, that is, i have never had to go thru setup you need. i still boot cl and type 'kde' when i use x. your needs have been posted before, i do not recall what solutions is, and grepmail did not show up anything in current lists. you will most likely get a reply answer before i can gather cd archives and pull answer. if not, will check when i get back this afternoon. i am on my way out door to finish up a control system i have been setting up. i will not be back until after 0 gmt and you will be long time asleep. if nothing posted, will pull archive and check. About the monitor, will also run some searches on screen blanker. it can be set, just do not recall how and where. later. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to add session types to users
How can I add session types ( kde, gnome etc ) to users when you are not yet on desktop. I can drop to a root terminal, but what do I call ? big snip Where do I go to add these desktops to the login managers session menu ? I thin kthis is what you want. Here are excerpts from emails on Speednix (using pekwm as an example): -- From Derek: It is quite easy to get an entry in kdm,gdm,Xtart Just define a file /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19pekwm Containing :- NAME=pekwm ICON=pekwm.png EXEC=/usr/bin/pekwm (or wherever your executable is) DESC=Windowmanager based on the original blackbox-code SCRIPT: exec /usr/bin/pekwm Then pekwm will come up as an option in kdm etc as the 19th Window Manager (1 to 18 have already been defined by Mandrake) derek - From Todd: Sweet, now I have entries for fluxbox, xfce4, oroborus, and pekwm. I did have to go into /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc and add those to the list there. I couldn't find a program that would do it. I thought maybe it would scan /etc/X11/wmsession.d/ for you and update the list automagiclly. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
