Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-21 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Thursday 21 March 2002 02:47 am, Mandrake Newbie wrote:

 When I'm about to install SNF in my old Intel Pentium 166 at 32MB
 RAM using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive it asked me what modules shall I
 use for my CD-ROM drive?  Also, the GUI installation is very poor
 and very slow.

I've also got a BTC 40X.  I bought it some time ago in an pinch 
'cause I could pick it up locally.  It's not a very good drive (el 
cheapo). I keep threatening to replace it, but then all of a sudden 
it'll start cooperating ;)  It often has problems with install CD's. 
Many times taking several attempts and a many threats to get it kick 
started.   I'd imagine that 32mb would be slow.
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RE: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-20 Thread Mandrake Newbie

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just an add-on reply. P166 with 32MB should be enough to run SNF, it may
not be snappy, but it works, I had it running on a P120. Have you tried
text mode install?

But why is it that when I'm about to install SNF in my old Intel Pentium 166 at 32MB 
RAM using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive it asked what modules shall I use for my CD-ROM 
drive?  Also, the GUI installation is very poor and very slow.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-20 Thread Mandrake Newbie

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Hmmm...  How did the install fail?  SNF has a newer 2.2 kernel than the 
original and the newer one overcomes some errors that could be 
attributed to the strange timing and unique geometry of some WD drives. 
 There is no real reason an SNF install should fail on such a system.  I 
am running it on an IBM PC350 P166 with 32Mb of RAM and two network 
cards.  Of course, I do have to keep a mouse attached so the BIOS will 
allow a boot, but the video and keyboard were long ago removed.

You cannot have any other system on a machine running SNF.  Dual-boots 
are impossible.

When I'm about to install SNF in my old Intel Pentium 166 at 32MB RAM using BTC 40x 
IDE CD-ROM drive it asked me what modules shall I use for my CD-ROM drive?  Also, the 
GUI installation is very poor and very slow.

Thanks in advance.

=)

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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-20 Thread Mandrake Newbie

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

why would it not support it? mayhaps you had some configuration problem that 
the fine folks on this list could have helped with, since the hardware you 
list should be no problem w/ SNF

I don't know.  AFAIK, when I am about to install SNF in my old Intel Pentium 166 at 
32MB RAM using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive it asked what modules shall I use for my 
CD-ROM drive?  Also, the GUI installation is very poor and very slow.

Thanks in advance.

=)

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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-20 Thread Mandrake Newbie

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Get the source and  compile it.

I'm sorry for asking a very newbie question again but how can I compile the source of 
SNF if my hard disk drive is fresh?

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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-20 Thread civileme

Mandrake Newbie wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hmmm...  How did the install fail?  SNF has a newer 2.2 kernel than the 
original and the newer one overcomes some errors that could be 
attributed to the strange timing and unique geometry of some WD drives. 
There is no real reason an SNF install should fail on such a system.  I 
am running it on an IBM PC350 P166 with 32Mb of RAM and two network 
cards.  Of course, I do have to keep a mouse attached so the BIOS will 
allow a boot, but the video and keyboard were long ago removed.

You cannot have any other system on a machine running SNF.  Dual-boots 
are impossible.


When I'm about to install SNF in my old Intel Pentium 166 at 32MB RAM using BTC 40x 
IDE CD-ROM drive it asked me what modules shall I use for my CD-ROM drive?  Also, the 
GUI installation is very poor and very slow.

Thanks in advance.

=)

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Use a different CDROM and use text mode install.  You have nothing to 
gain from GUI install anyway, since the installed version can operate 
headless and has no local GUI.  The poor quality and slow speed of 
install with the GUI is from your video card which doesn't support 
framebuffer, so VGA (16 color) gets used instead.

Once installed, you use a web browser from one of your local computers 
to configure the firewall with graphical tools.  The firewall itself can 
run (if the BIOS permits) without monitor, keyboard, and mouse, and 
possibly with the video card removed.  My little IBM P166 runs with only 
a mouse because its BIOS will stop booting and complain if it is not 
there on boot.


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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-20 Thread Femme

Ugh... great suggestions But I do lack $.  *Sigh*

I will keep forging ahead with SNF *have yet to set it up*, and if that
fails I will investigate LRP.  Thanks Gerald, as always your info is
useful.

Femme
On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 18:33, Gerald Waugh wrote:
 On Wednesday 20 March 2002 05:15 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
  Gerald Waugh wrote:
   Someone recently posted a URL for source.
   In your case you will have to install some kind of a Linux distro, maybe
   LM 7.X, then compile it.???
   Having looked at the issues for a while, I don't think SNF is the thing
   for a 486. I would get LRP on an IDE flash disk.
   search google for LRP Linux Router Project
  
  why do you recommend that particular solution  whats a flash disk?
 
  Femme
 
 
 LRP is a very small system that does routing and firewall among others
 It will actuall fit on floppy. It is very stable.
 
 An (IDE) flash disk is a solid state disk, you plug it in just like a hard 
 disk. You can get flash disk with LRP installed (I think).
 
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 New Haven, Connecticut USA
 
 
 
 

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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-20 Thread mooseman

i personally on a 486-8mb ram, no HDD only floppy have had better success 
with freesco than LRP.

http://www.freesco.org

LRP is htpp://www.linuxrouter.org

moose.

On March 20, 2002 10:05 am, you wrote:
 On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Mandrake Newbie wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Get the source and  compile it.
 
  I'm sorry for asking a very newbie question again but how can I compile
  the source of SNF if my hard disk drive is fresh?

 Someone recently posted a URL for source.
 In your case you will have to install some kind of a Linux distro, maybe LM
 7.X, then compile it.???
 Having looked at the issues for a while, I don't think SNF is the thing for
 a 486. I would get LRP on an IDE flash disk.
 search google for LRP Linux Router Project

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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-20 Thread FemmeFatale

why do you recommend that particular solution  whats a flash disk?

Femme

Gerald Waugh wrote:

 Someone recently posted a URL for source.
 In your case you will have to install some kind of a Linux distro, maybe LM 7.X,
 then compile it.???
 Having looked at the issues for a while, I don't think SNF is the thing for a
 486. I would get LRP on an IDE flash disk.
 search google for LRP Linux Router Project
 
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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-19 Thread Mandrake Newbie

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have another suggestion Fix your system time.  I am getting 
letters before you mail them. (and after dealing with 37 inches of snow 
in 24 hours, I am likely to be mildly amused by that)


I overlooked this problem.  I'm using M$ Win98 when I'm reading and sending e-mails 
using this account.  The rest of my jobs, I use my Mandrake 8.1.

Thanks for reminding me.

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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-19 Thread Mandrake Newbie

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes, it is OK.  Put the actual servers behind that one.  There is a 
package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those 
components and is configurable from the local network side by a web 
browser--quite a neat package.


I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old Intel Pentium 
166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive.  So, 
eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I wasn't able to install it.

Thanks...

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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-19 Thread Gerald Waugh

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Mandrake Newbie wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Yes, it is OK.  Put the actual servers behind that one.  There is a 
 package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those 
 components and is configurable from the local network side by a web 
 browser--quite a neat package.
 
 
 I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old Intel Pentium 
166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive.  So, 
eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I wasn't able to install it.
 

Get the source and  compile it.

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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-19 Thread ed tharp

On Tuesday 19 March 2002 11:34, you wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Mandrake Newbie wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Yes, it is OK.  Put the actual servers behind that one.  There is a
  package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those
  components and is configurable from the local network side by a web
  browser--quite a neat package.
 
  I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old
  Intel Pentium 166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x
  IDE CD-ROM drive.  So, eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I
  wasn't able to install it.
why would it not support it? mayhaps you had some configuration problem that 
the fine folks on this list could have helped with, since the hardware you 
list should be no problem w/ SNF



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RE: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-19 Thread Robin

Just an add-on reply. P166 with 32MB should be enough to run SNF, it may
not be snappy, but it works, I had it running on a P120. Have you tried
text mode install?


Robin

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ed tharp
 Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:00 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
 
 
 On Tuesday 19 March 2002 11:34, you wrote:
  On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Mandrake Newbie wrote:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   Yes, it is OK.  Put the actual servers behind that one.  
 There is a 
   package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all 
   those components and is configurable from the local 
 network side by 
   a web browser--quite a neat package.
  
   I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't 
 support my old 
   Intel Pentium 166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and 
 using BTC 
   40x IDE CD-ROM drive.  So, eventhough I would like to try 
 Mandrake 
   SNF, I wasn't able to install it.
 why would it not support it? mayhaps you had some 
 configuration problem that 
 the fine folks on this list could have helped with, since the 
 hardware you 
 list should be no problem w/ SNF
 
 


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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-19 Thread civileme

Mandrake Newbie wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes, it is OK.  Put the actual servers behind that one.  There is a 
package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those 
components and is configurable from the local network side by a web 
browser--quite a neat package.



I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old Intel Pentium 
166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive.  So, 
eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I wasn't able to install it.

Thanks...

=)

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Hmmm...  How did the install fail?  SNF has a newer 2.2 kernel than the 
original and the newer one overcomes some errors that could be 
attributed to the strange timing and unique geometry of some WD drives. 
 There is no real reason an SNF install should fail on such a system.  I 
am running it on an IBM PC350 P166 with 32Mb of RAM and two network 
cards.  Of course, I do have to keep a mouse attached so the BIOS will 
allow a boot, but the video and keyboard were long ago removed.

You cannot have any other system on a machine running SNF.  Dual-boots 
are impossible.

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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-19 Thread FemmeFatale


I have yet to be able to find the source  don't have a clue how to
compile it. URLs? :)

Femme

Gerald Waugh wrote:

 
 Get the source and  compile it.
 
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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-19 Thread Gerald Waugh

On Tuesday 19 March 2002 09:09 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 I have yet to be able to find the source  don't have a clue how to
 compile it. URLs? :)


You are TOO good at triming (no content),
what are we talking about.?

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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-19 Thread FemmeFatale

oops
SNF Pls ;)

apologies  I over cut

Femme

Gerald Waugh wrote:
 
 On Tuesday 19 March 2002 09:09 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
  I have yet to be able to find the source  don't have a clue how to
  compile it. URLs? :)
 
 
 You are TOO good at triming (no content),
 what are we talking about.?
 
 --
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 http://frontstreetnetworks.com
 New Haven, Connecticut USA
 
   
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[newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-18 Thread Mandrake Newbie

Hello Linux gurus,

Is it okay to put up a firewall, router and proxy servers/packages, all in one 
computer?  Can you give me your recommended packages and what's their individual use, 
for this kind of setup?  Also, can you give your how-to's in setting up this kind of 
setup?

Thank you in advance.

God bless you all...

Just a newbie...

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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-18 Thread civileme

Mandrake Newbie wrote:

Hello Linux gurus,

Is it okay to put up a firewall, router and proxy servers/packages, all in one 
computer?  Can you give me your recommended packages and what's their individual use, 
for this kind of setup?  Also, can you give your how-to's in setting up this kind 
of setup?

Thank you in advance.

God bless you all...

Just a newbie...

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Yes, it is OK.  Put the actual servers behind that one.  There is a 
package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those 
components and is configurable from the local network side by a web 
browser--quite a neat package.

Civileme






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Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions

2002-03-18 Thread civileme

Mandrake Newbie wrote:

Hello Linux gurus,

Is it okay to put up a firewall, router and proxy servers/packages, all in one 
computer?  Can you give me your recommended packages and what's their individual use, 
for this kind of setup?  Also, can you give your how-to's in setting up this kind 
of setup?

Thank you in advance.

God bless you all...

Just a newbie...

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I have another suggestion Fix your system time.  I am getting 
letters before you mail them. (and after dealing with 37 inches of snow 
in 24 hours, I am likely to be mildly amused by that)

Civileme






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