Re: [newbie] Install results vary
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 06:38 pm, you wrote: On Tuesday 24 June 2003 11:22 pm, Roland Hughes wrote: I have done 3-4 install's and everyone was different. I think mandrake is becoming like windows ( I am joking!). Roly snip Anyone know why the install is different each time? How can I get WindowMaker onto my friend's computer? Why would IceWM run slower than Win98? (Sorry for so many questions, but I felt they're all related somewhat.) Thanks, Allan I often wonder the same thing. I just had to do a minor reinstall on the machine that would not play xmms. Guess what, it now plays. I choose all the same packages and input the answers on the setup and yet now it works when before it didn't. Oh, well. Mysteries are for solving. snip Ya know, it occurred to me that there was a difference this time. I did not install alsa and the alsamixer-gui. My CDROM works with xmms now. I had those loaded before and also had the alsa plugin installed for xmms but it wouldn't play using the alsa sound or OSS sound. Now it works with OSS just fine.: So, I must say that the seat socket can come unplugged. I found that my sound problems revolve around the fact that I have a sblive! card and had only one set of speakers plugged into the socket next to the serial connector. i.e. the plugin for the back speakers. I put the plug in the next socket over and I had sound in the xmms and games. My only excuse is that in the wrong socket I still had system sounds and couldn't figure out why I had no cdplayer sounds. Yes I do forget to watch what I am doing or need new glasses. Hope this helps someone having sound problems. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
I've installed 9.1 nine times now (different machines, including 2 laptops). I have to say, even on very similar machines I've had things come up differently (all work, mind you). What I haven't figured out is why some have the classic style text boot messages, and some the graphical boot messages. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it. And one machine has no shutdown messages whatsover, just a blank screen with a blinking cursor--then it turns off. Obviously, it is closing what it needs to, and shutting down properly, but why? I had no option for quiet shutdown at install. Kinda weird--I've probably done 75 or more Linux installs, and I've never seen it before. e. On Wednesday 25 June 2003 01:36 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 23 June 2003 10:30 pm, Allan wrote: Hi, Does anyone know why Mandrake 9.1 seems to come up with different results each time I install it? I'm guessing two characteristics are at work together, one, the installer somehow learns something of the nature of your equipement each time, and second the human behind the installer learns something more about the installer's idiosyncracies. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
El mié, 25 de 06 de 2003 a las 00:11, Allan escribió: On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 01:00, Damian Gatabria wrote: You wanna hear a funny one? If i choose ext3 for the /, my soundcard chipset is not correctly detected... it still works, but the sound is lower quality and choppy... Damian I have the same problem with my sound. Were you able to fix this? Well, as i said, it depends on the file system i choose! it only happens when my / is ext3. When i use Reiser or XFS it works perfectly. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 11:22 pm, Roland Hughes wrote: I have done 3-4 install's and everyone was different. I think mandrake is becoming like windows ( I am joking!). Roly On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 20:03, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 23 June 2003 10:30 pm, Allan wrote: Hi, Does anyone know why Mandrake 9.1 seems to come up with different results each time I install it? I installed it twice on my machine and another time on a friend's machine. On my system the end result was different each time, with minor differences showing up in KDE. (I've since switched to Window Maker and love it.) However, the WindowMaker default setup varies between users added on the same system. For instance, some users by default had the wmCalClock dockapp and others didn't, some have an extra WPrefs dock icon, etc. Also, I wanted to help my friend get started with Linux, but when we were installing it, it didn't show a lot of packages to select from. In particular, I wanted to install Window Maker and Aterm. Neither showed up in the package selection screen during initial installation or afterwards with rpmdrake. I thought it might be because my friend has an older machine (~400 MHz CPU, 64MB RAM, etc.), but KDE and Gnome installed okay so I don't think it's the hardware support that's lacking. IceWM installed successfully, but it still runs slower than Win98 on the same computer (dual boot). Anyone know why the install is different each time? How can I get WindowMaker onto my friend's computer? Why would IceWM run slower than Win98? (Sorry for so many questions, but I felt they're all related somewhat.) Thanks, Allan I often wonder the same thing. I just had to do a minor reinstall on the machine that would not play xmms. Guess what, it now plays. I choose all the same packages and input the answers on the setup and yet now it works when before it didn't. Oh, well. Mysteries are for solving. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ya know, it occurred to me that there was a difference this time. I did not install alsa and the alsamixer-gui. My CDROM works with xmms now. I had those loaded before and also had the alsa plugin installed for xmms but it wouldn't play using the alsa sound or OSS sound. Now it works with OSS just fine.: -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 01:00, Damian Gatabria wrote: You wanna hear a funny one? If i choose ext3 for the /, my soundcard chipset is not correctly detected... it still works, but the sound is lower quality and choppy... Damian I have the same problem with my sound. Were you able to fix this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 03:33, C. Tresenriter wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:03:55 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 23 June 2003 10:30 pm, Allan wrote: Hi, Does anyone know why Mandrake 9.1 seems to come up with different results each time I install it? I installed it twice on my machine and another time on a friend's machine. Glad to hear this, I thought it was just me. Curt Ohmygod the O/S is smarter than I am1 Smitty __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
On Wednesday 25 Jun 2003 5:37 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 14:22, Roland Hughes wrote: I have done 3-4 install's and everyone was different. I think mandrake is becoming like windows ( I am joking!). Roly It's really funny that last October I tried to point this out to people on the list, but no one believed me... I don't remember that, Stephen. I for one would have agreed with you. It's been so since I started using Mandrake with 8.0. Of course, Femme's experience has probably run through all the possible combinations g Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 21:45, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 25 Jun 2003 5:37 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 14:22, Roland Hughes wrote: I have done 3-4 install's and everyone was different. I think mandrake is becoming like windows ( I am joking!). Roly It's really funny that last October I tried to point this out to people on the list, but no one believed me... I don't remember that, Stephen. I for one would have agreed with you. It's been so since I started using Mandrake with 8.0. Of course, Femme's experience has probably run through all the possible combinations g Anne So you don't happen to remember that I was testing 9.0 installations on several test machines here and getting different results from different installations and that I was still a RedHatter at the time and was casting doubt upon whether or not I could use Mandrake as my desktop due to problems with the 9.0 installation and that I was awaiting the 9.1 distro before giving it serious consideration - and that I had mentioned NUMEROUS times that I don't trust whole numbers in distros? Geez...I'd have though that heaps of y'all would have remembered that...(and I'm a man! To think that MY memory is better than a woman's eternal memory? Wow...)(g) -- Wed Jun 25 22:10:01 EST 2003 22:10:01 up 21:56, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.14, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Have you reconsidered a computer career? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
At 12:45 PM 6/25/2003 +0100, you wrote: On Wednesday 25 Jun 2003 5:37 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 14:22, Roland Hughes wrote: I have done 3-4 install's and everyone was different. I think mandrake is becoming like windows ( I am joking!). Roly It's really funny that last October I tried to point this out to people on the list, but no one believed me... I don't remember that, Stephen. I for one would have agreed with you. It's been so since I started using Mandrake with 8.0. Of course, Femme's experience has probably run through all the possible combinations g Anne heh so far ya... sorta i swear each time I install its a new adventure in errors tracking down weirdness. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
On Monday 23 June 2003 10:30 pm, Allan wrote: Hi, Does anyone know why Mandrake 9.1 seems to come up with different results each time I install it? I installed it twice on my machine and another time on a friend's machine. On my system the end result was different each time, with minor differences showing up in KDE. (I've since switched to Window Maker and love it.) However, the WindowMaker default setup varies between users added on the same system. For instance, some users by default had the wmCalClock dockapp and others didn't, some have an extra WPrefs dock icon, etc. Also, I wanted to help my friend get started with Linux, but when we were installing it, it didn't show a lot of packages to select from. In particular, I wanted to install Window Maker and Aterm. Neither showed up in the package selection screen during initial installation or afterwards with rpmdrake. I thought it might be because my friend has an older machine (~400 MHz CPU, 64MB RAM, etc.), but KDE and Gnome installed okay so I don't think it's the hardware support that's lacking. IceWM installed successfully, but it still runs slower than Win98 on the same computer (dual boot). Anyone know why the install is different each time? How can I get WindowMaker onto my friend's computer? Why would IceWM run slower than Win98? (Sorry for so many questions, but I felt they're all related somewhat.) Thanks, Allan I often wonder the same thing. I just had to do a minor reinstall on the machine that would not play xmms. Guess what, it now plays. I choose all the same packages and input the answers on the setup and yet now it works when before it didn't. Oh, well. Mysteries are for solving. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
I have done 3-4 install's and everyone was different. I think mandrake is becoming like windows ( I am joking!). Roly On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 20:03, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 23 June 2003 10:30 pm, Allan wrote: Hi, Does anyone know why Mandrake 9.1 seems to come up with different results each time I install it? I installed it twice on my machine and another time on a friend's machine. On my system the end result was different each time, with minor differences showing up in KDE. (I've since switched to Window Maker and love it.) However, the WindowMaker default setup varies between users added on the same system. For instance, some users by default had the wmCalClock dockapp and others didn't, some have an extra WPrefs dock icon, etc. Also, I wanted to help my friend get started with Linux, but when we were installing it, it didn't show a lot of packages to select from. In particular, I wanted to install Window Maker and Aterm. Neither showed up in the package selection screen during initial installation or afterwards with rpmdrake. I thought it might be because my friend has an older machine (~400 MHz CPU, 64MB RAM, etc.), but KDE and Gnome installed okay so I don't think it's the hardware support that's lacking. IceWM installed successfully, but it still runs slower than Win98 on the same computer (dual boot). Anyone know why the install is different each time? How can I get WindowMaker onto my friend's computer? Why would IceWM run slower than Win98? (Sorry for so many questions, but I felt they're all related somewhat.) Thanks, Allan I often wonder the same thing. I just had to do a minor reinstall on the machine that would not play xmms. Guess what, it now plays. I choose all the same packages and input the answers on the setup and yet now it works when before it didn't. Oh, well. Mysteries are for solving. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- MicroSoft - The company that made the internet unsafe! Linux Counter #241069 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 14:22, Roland Hughes wrote: I have done 3-4 install's and everyone was different. I think mandrake is becoming like windows ( I am joking!). Roly It's really funny that last October I tried to point this out to people on the list, but no one believed me... -- Wed Jun 25 14:35:00 EST 2003 14:35:00 up 14:21, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.10, 0.05 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The only sure way to find bargain prices at an auction, is to consign your antiques there. -- Tucker Frey's Universal Truth Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
El mié, 25 de 06 de 2003 a las 01:37, Stephen Kuhn escribió: On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 14:22, Roland Hughes wrote: I have done 3-4 install's and everyone was different. I think mandrake is becoming like windows ( I am joking!). Roly It's really funny that last October I tried to point this out to people on the list, but no one believed me... You wanna hear a funny one? If i choose ext3 for the /, my soundcard chipset is not correctly detected... it still works, but the sound is lower quality and choppy... Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
