Re: [newbie] KdeprintFax
On Friday 18 Jul 2003 2:37 am, owenb wrote: Thanks Derek I followed your instructions for adding, kdeprintfax %in I now have Send to Fax available in KFax word processor but not in Open Office Writer. How do I check to see if KDe is using CUPS? SNIP Follow the tutorial on my web site http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/fax_cups.html You know if you are using CUPS if cups is listed as active in the services window of Mandrake Control CentreSystem. It is the default for Mandrake so it should be running. (If it is not you can select the print system with the printer GUI in Mandrake Control Centre) In the KDE print window make sure CUPS is selected in the Print service used drop down. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KdeprintFax
owenb wrote: I checked and CUPS is running.on boot CUPS-LPD is stopped. Mandrake Control Center / System/ CUPS is running on boot Mandrake Contril Center/ System/ CUPS - LPD is stopped Mandrake Control Center/Harware/ Printer Drake/ shows Local Printer HP Deskjet 855 on parallel port #0 (default) which is my printer. Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 18 Jul 2003 2:37 am, owenb wrote: Thanks Derek I followed your instructions for adding, kdeprintfax %in I now have Send to Fax available in KFax word processor but not in Open Office Writer. How do I check to see if KDe is using CUPS? SNIP Follow the tutorial on my web site http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/fax_cups.html You know if you are using CUPS if cups is listed as active in the services window of Mandrake Control CentreSystem. It is the default for Mandrake so it should be running. (If it is not you can select the print system with the printer GUI in Mandrake Control Centre) In the KDE print window make sure CUPS is selected in the Print service used drop down. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KdeprintFax
On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 10:15 am, Anne Wilson wrote: I use a service like this provided by my isp - I was thinking more of a native app, something like winfax for both sending and receiving, but running over adsl. You certainly wont get that, probably ever. At some point the fax has to hit the phone lines and there is no linkage between the Internet and the phone lines, even using ADSL. Add to that the fact that phone companies tend to charge money to make calls and you have to have a company with an accounting procedure in place. Nobody is going to offer outgoing faxes for free. A few of those links did offer incoming faxes free, but you still need to set up an account so they know where to send them. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KdeprintFax
On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 7:21 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: That certainly seems to be the position, but I question whether it's really impossible. After all, a fax is only a bit stream (isn't it?), so could be transmitted just like any other bit stream. The problem is in the telephone number that the fax is sent to. Perhaps the solution would be to map a telephone number to an ip address? If my isp can offer it as a free service even on pay-as-you-go accounts it can't be a costly business. There is no link between the Internet and the phone system. No amount of local software will route traffic between the two as there is no link. Any such link has to be provided by someone or some company with hardware connected to both. Traffic on the Internet is free, but as soon as the traffic hits the phone network it starts to cost money. In the USA a gateway in every local area would make it free, but would be costly for whoever implemented it. In other places even local calls cost money. Such a technology would be in danger of shortcircuiting the phone companies' cashflow, so they'd fight it. With incoming traffic there is a solution where the originator pays a slightly higher cost, virtual national rate numbers that give a small kickback to the providing company. But for outgoing traffic the originating computer must pay for the call, or it must be born by the gateway. I don't see how any company could incur charges and offer the service free, especially if some of the traffic involved long distance phone calls. At some point in the next few years micro-payments will be sorted out and outgoing traffic through a commercial gateway could be made next to transparent; pay-per-use with a cost only slightly higher than the phone call involved. But also within a few years the fax will be redundant. Who uses telex any more? OK, it's not impossible. If you could put a gateway in every country and negotiate a flat rate with the local phone companies, and that flat rate still made it commercially viable. If the technologies involved limited the usability to faxes then maybe you could get the phone companies to let it go. Just thinking - but for a project for someone to tackle, I reckon there's a big demand. My grandfather used to say that only two things are impossible - to whilstle and laugh at the same time, and to play a fiddle with boxing gloves on. Now there's a challenge. Where can I lay my hands on a pair of boxing gloves... -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KdeprintFax
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 14:21, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 4:38 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 10:15 am, Anne Wilson wrote: I use a service like this provided by my isp - I was thinking more of a native app, something like winfax for both sending and receiving, but running over adsl. You certainly wont get that, probably ever. At some point the fax has to hit the phone lines and there is no linkage between the Internet and the phone lines, even using ADSL. Add to that the fact that phone companies tend to charge money to make calls and you have to have a company with an accounting procedure in place. Nobody is going to offer outgoing faxes for free. A few of those links did offer incoming faxes free, but you still need to set up an account so they know where to send them. That certainly seems to be the position, but I question whether it's really impossible. After all, a fax is only a bit stream (isn't it?), so could be transmitted just like any other bit stream. The problem is in the telephone number that the fax is sent to. Perhaps the solution would be to map a telephone number to an ip address? If my isp can offer it as a free service even on pay-as-you-go accounts it can't be a costly business. Just thinking - but for a project for someone to tackle, I reckon there's a big demand. My grandfather used to say that only two things are impossible - to whilstle and laugh at the same time, and to play a fiddle with boxing gloves on. Anne your father ever manage to kiss the outside of his elbow? g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KdeprintFax
On Tuesday 15 Jul 2003 10:55 pm, owenb wrote: My computer is a dedicated 9.1 The installation was straight forward. I have not added any additional software or made any changes. But when I went to use KdeprintFax the following troubles manifested themselves. The Address book only shows a Icon although I have entered addresses. When I activate, Edit Addressbook my entries are there. When I enter a text file and manually enter a fax phone # and try to send I get the following error message. 'Fax Error. See Log Message For More Information The log tells me, Usage: anytops[-m filters] [- - mime =mime - type.] [ -p page] ]- -help] infile outfile I have no idea what any of it means but it looks very complicated and I am very dumb. I really need a fax program . If someone would have the patience to help me fix this one or recommend another software package I would be most grateful. Owen I think the file has to be a postscript file. The easy way to use kdeprintfax is to open whatever file you want to fax in an editor or word processor and then press the 'Print' button. When the printer dialogue box appears use the drop down menu in the printer selection to select Print to fax You will then enter kdeprintfax. There is a tip on my web site about using faxes from OpenOffice which may help you. www.jennings.homelinux.net derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KdeprintFax
Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 15 Jul 2003 10:55 pm, owenb wrote: My computer is a dedicated 9.1 The installation was straight forward. I have not added any additional software or made any changes. But when I went to use KdeprintFax the following troubles manifested themselves. The Address book only shows a Icon although I have entered addresses. When I activate, Edit Addressbook my entries are there. When I enter a text file and manually enter a fax phone # and try to send I get the following error message. 'Fax Error. See Log Message For More Information The log tells me, Usage: anytops[-m filters] [- - mime =mime - type.] [ -p page] ]- -help] infile outfile I have no idea what any of it means but it looks very complicated and I am very dumb. I really need a fax program . If someone would have the patience to help me fix this one or recommend another software package I would be most grateful. Owen Thanks for the tip but in my printer selection, Print to fax is not a option. I think the file has to be a postscript file. The easy way to use kdeprintfax is to open whatever file you want to fax in an editor or word processor and then press the 'Print' button. When the printer dialogue box appears use the drop down menu in the printer selection to select Print to fax You will then enter kdeprintfax. There is a tip on my web site about using faxes from OpenOffice which may help you. www.jennings.homelinux.net derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KdeprintFax
Is there any kind of fax program like kdeprintfax which can use normal (ethernet) network card to send a fax? I have tried kdeprintfax and found that it must(?) use a modem. Many thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KdeprintFax
On Wednesday 16 Jul 2003 2:02 pm, owenb wrote: Owen Thanks for the tip but in my printer selection, Print to fax is not a option. If you are using KDE and CUPS then when you print a dialogue box appears. The drop down 'Name' selects the printer to use. Underneath your real printers there are four 'pseudo' printers :- Mail PDF File Print to File (PDF) Print to File (Postscript) Send to Fax (not Print to fax) If they are not there then it is easy enough to add them. Open KDE ControlCentrePeripheralsPrinters Select Administrator mode. Right click in the white area, select 'Add special (pseudo) printer' In the pop up configuration box give it a name and in the 'Command Settings' box enter kdeprintfax %in derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KdeprintFax
On Wednesday 16 Jul 2003 3:19 pm, qhwang wrote: Is there any kind of fax program like kdeprintfax which can use normal (ethernet) network card to send a fax? I have tried kdeprintfax and found that it must(?) use a modem. Many thanks. I spoke to my adsl provide, who said that he doesn't think it is possible under any os. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KdeprintFax
I spoke to my adsl provide, who said that he doesn't think it is possible under any os. Many thanks . I am waiting for some guys to make it possible. QingHua Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KdeprintFax
On Wednesday 16 Jul 2003 5:31 pm, qhwang wrote: I spoke to my adsl provide, who said that he doesn't think it is possible under any os. Many thanks . I am waiting for some guys to make it possible. QingHua You're not alone there g Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KdeprintFax
My computer is a dedicated 9.1 The installation was straight forward. I have not added any additional software or made any changes. But when I went to use KdeprintFax the following troubles manifested themselves. The Address book only shows a Icon although I have entered addresses. When I activate, Edit Addressbook my entries are there. When I enter a text file and manually enter a fax phone # and try to send I get the following error message. 'Fax Error. See Log Message For More Information The log tells me, Usage: anytops[-m filters] [- - mime =mime - type.] [ -p page] ]- -help] infile outfile I have no idea what any of it means but it looks very complicated and I am very dumb. I really need a fax program . If someone would have the patience to help me fix this one or recommend another software package I would be most grateful. Owen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KdeprintFax
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 14:55, owenb wrote: My computer is a dedicated 9.1 The installation was straight forward. I have not added any additional software or made any changes. But when I went to use KdeprintFax the following troubles manifested themselves. The Address book only shows a Icon although I have entered addresses. When I activate, Edit Addressbook my entries are there. When I enter a text file and manually enter a fax phone # and try to send I get the following error message. 'Fax Error. See Log Message For More Information The log tells me, Usage: anytops[-m filters] [- - mime =mime - type.] [ -p page] ]- -help] infile outfile I have no idea what any of it means but it looks very complicated and I am very dumb. I really need a fax program . If someone would have the patience to help me fix this one or recommend another software package I would be most grateful. Owen Having used a couple of computer-fax programs I find that they are for the most part a monumental PIA Unless money is really tight buy a used fax machine. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
