Re: [newbie] M9.1beta1 install

2003-01-14 Thread Mark Weaver
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On Tuesday 14 January 2003 06:11 am, Anne Wilson scribbled nervously:
> On Monday 13 Jan 2003 10:16 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> > I've just had a very trying experience trying to install this.
> >
> > 1) ps2 mouse scrole wheel not detected at all, hardly important though.
> >
> > 2) no /swap partition detected
>
> Although 9.1 is downloaded I haven't had time to look at it, so I'm reading
> with interest.  Just wanted to comment - 9.0 didn't see my swap partition -
> it installed another.  I have two swap partitions 
>
> Anne

Hi Anne,

have you checked the cooker list at all for this particular weirdness? I've 
heard this a few times, but no one has yet really followed up on it. On my 
box the 9.1 install saw the swap partition without a problem.
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Re: [newbie] M9.1beta1 install

2003-01-14 Thread Mark Weaver

Dennis Myers scribbled nervously after reading Mark's message:
> On Sunday 12 January 2003 06:56 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
>> > 3) Bootloader refused non install , insisted on being installed
>> >
>> > 4) refused opportunity to create boot disc
>> >
>> > 5) upon reboot , found lilo had not been installed after
>> all,though it certainlyleft you the impression it had.
>>
>> I ALWAYS use an expert install (press f1 when the cdrom first
>> boots and at boot: type expert) since it gives one more options.
>> lilo can be installed on the first sector of the boot partition
>> (hda7 in your case), boot disk option is available.
>>
>> jerry
> I used expert install on my second harddrive with cdrom as secondary
> slave and  ide0 disabled. Install was flawless, except I couldn't
> get kmail to work  (might have been firewall problem if I could find
> the firewall) sound card is  recognized but can't find the volume
> control, it is very sparse for apps with  only one cd.  Oh yeah, I
> forgot that I had hdc mounted on my main hda and so  when it changed
> the partitions with the OS install on hdc my hda boot up  install
> failed on errors on /dev/hdc1, couldn't get a recovery so had to
> reinstall and wipe /usr and the /hdc1 and /hdc6 partitions to get
> hda back.  Dumb mistake. Any hoo, I am not thrilled with the default
> KDE icons colors  etc and wish I knew why kmail can recieve but not
> send. Said that senders  address was missing a ? can't remember.
> Will try again on beta 2.  Charge on, --
> Dennis M.  linux user # 180842

Dennis,

I'm curious as to the type of error you got with Kmail, because I've
been running it under 9.1 and it's working just fine. I'm wondering
what I've done, or you've done differently.

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Re: [newbie] M9.1beta1 install

2003-01-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 13 Jan 2003 10:16 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> I've just had a very trying experience trying to install this.
>
> 1) ps2 mouse scrole wheel not detected at all, hardly important though.
>
> 2) no /swap partition detected

Although 9.1 is downloaded I haven't had time to look at it, so I'm reading 
with interest.  Just wanted to comment - 9.0 didn't see my swap partition - 
it installed another.  I have two swap partitions 

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Re: [newbie] M9.1beta1 install

2003-01-14 Thread John Richard Smith
Dennis Myers wrote:


On Sunday 12 January 2003 06:56 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
 

3) Bootloader refused non install , insisted on being installed

4) refused opportunity to create boot disc

5) upon reboot , found lilo had not been installed after all,though
it certainlyleft you the impression it had.
 

I ALWAYS use an expert install (press f1 when the cdrom first boots and at
boot: type expert) since it gives one more options.  lilo can be installed
on the first sector of the boot partition (hda7 in your case), boot disk
option is available.

jerry
   

I used expert install on my second harddrive with cdrom as secondary slave and 
ide0 disabled. Install was flawless, except I couldn't get kmail to work 
(might have been firewall problem if I could find the firewall) sound card is 
recognized but can't find the volume control, it is very sparse for apps with 
only one cd.  Oh yeah, I forgot that I had hdc mounted on my main hda and so 
when it changed the partitions with the OS install on hdc my hda boot up 
install failed on errors on /dev/hdc1, couldn't get a recovery so had to 
reinstall and wipe /usr and the /hdc1 and /hdc6 partitions to get hda back. 
Dumb mistake. Any hoo, I am not thrilled with the default KDE icons colors 
etc and wish I knew why kmail can recieve but not send. Said that senders 
address was missing a ? can't remember. Will try again on beta 2.  Charge on,
 


 

Yep, I think its going to be an f1 expert install next time.

John

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Re: [newbie] M9.1beta1 install

2003-01-14 Thread John Richard Smith
Jerry Barton wrote:


3) Bootloader refused non install , insisted on being installed

4) refused opportunity to create boot disc

5) upon reboot , found lilo had not been installed after all,though
it certainlyleft you the impression it had.

   

I ALWAYS use an expert install (press f1 when the cdrom first boots and at boot: type expert) since it gives one more options.  lilo can be installed on the first sector of the boot partition (hda7 in your case), boot disk option is available.

jerry

 

Yes, I agree, I will have to go the f1 expert route next time,
I have always had the choice of expert install in the first of the
install windows before, seems like something had changed.
John

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Re: [newbie] M9.1beta1 install

2003-01-14 Thread John Richard Smith
H.J.Bathoorn wrote:


On Monday 13 January 2003 23:16, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

I've just had a very trying experience trying to install this.

1) ps2 mouse scrole wheel not detected at all, hardly important though.

2) no /swap partition detected

3) Bootloader refused non install , insisted on being installed

4) refused opportunity to create boot disc

   


Up to here I agree, same experience.
Bootloader is no big deal, just use a Slackware boot floppy (or CD) and boot 
by typing "linux mount root=/dev/hdwhatever your / partition is" on the 
prompt.

 

5) upon reboot , found lilo had not been installed after all,though
it certainlyleft you the impression it had.

6) upon reboot old M9.0 lilo and /etc/lilo.conf presents for booting,but,

7) fsck M9.0 completed, but,

8) fsck M91beta1 fails, with error message,

repair filesystem 2# fsck /dev/hda7 (M91beta)
fsck ext2:filesystem unsupported feature(s) (/dev/hda7)
e2fsck:get newer version of e2fsck ,
repair system : yes 
   


Just wondering: I always get that crap after I use diskdrake to prepare 
partitions. (C)Fdisk is the way to go, providing you reboot before you try to 
format the freshly created partitions. Don't know why though=:o(

After hosing my fresh install I used ext3.fsck BTW. Seemed to work allright.

 

and what should I try next ?

I'm back on M9.0 desktop, with a formatted /dev/hda7

John
   

I haven't given up on it yet. Not by a long chalk.
I just want to understand the issues a bit better, I've come
to distrust error messages these days, I guess the
developers only have a limited librarry of messages to use
at any given time and plump for one that sounds nearest
and may give you a clue.

What I want to know is what was it about my /hda7
file system that the bootloading process didn't like.
I know hda7 was formatted, well it certainly felt like
it was, it was the only partition I formatted, it used
to be M8.2 , but is now formatted over
Also , why didn't drakx find the /swap partition .

Now when I chose the partition to format, and it
did so I didbn't see any way of knowing what file
system it was formatting in, but as it must of been
the default, and in the past that has always been ext2
I assumed it would be ext2  again. Maybe I'm wrong.
As you can see I didn't have to do  any partitioning.
I simply reused an existing partition.So I don't
think this has anything to do with the partition
table . Something about the nature of the install
troubled M9.0's original lilo/lilo.conf boot process
from booting, nothing I did to try and repair it
except formatting hda7 again helped to resolve it.
It seems like it's a file system matter/issue.

I suppose I could skip the formatting process
in M9.1beta1 install, altogether, after all I've
successfully formatted hda7 now , so it should
in theory install. Maybe that's what I will do tonight
when I get some more time to do this. Anyone
got any other ideas ?

John




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Re: [newbie] M9.1beta1 install

2003-01-13 Thread Jerry Barton

> > jerry
> I used expert install on my second harddrive with cdrom as secondary slave and 
> ide0 disabled. Install was flawless, except I couldn't get kmail to work 
> (might have been firewall problem if I could find the firewall) sound card is 
> recognized but can't find the volume control, 

the only volume control ap i could see was gnome-volume-control
aumix won't compile actally LOTS of thing won't compile...but it is a 1cd distro 
after all


>it is very sparse for apps with 
> only one cd.  Oh yeah, I forgot that I had hdc mounted on my main hda and so 
> when it changed the partitions with the OS install on hdc my hda boot up 
> install failed on errors on /dev/hdc1, couldn't get a recovery so had to 
> reinstall and wipe /usr and the /hdc1 and /hdc6 partitions to get hda back. 
> Dumb mistake. Any hoo, I am not thrilled with the default KDE icons colors 
> etc and wish I knew why kmail can recieve but not send. Said that senders 
> address was missing a ? can't remember. Will try again on beta 2.  Charge on,

I had the same problem with kmail.

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> 
> 
Jerry

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Re: [newbie] M9.1beta1 install

2003-01-13 Thread Dennis Myers
On Sunday 12 January 2003 06:56 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
> > 3) Bootloader refused non install , insisted on being installed
> >
> > 4) refused opportunity to create boot disc
> >
> > 5) upon reboot , found lilo had not been installed after all,though
> > it certainlyleft you the impression it had.
>
> I ALWAYS use an expert install (press f1 when the cdrom first boots and at
> boot: type expert) since it gives one more options.  lilo can be installed
> on the first sector of the boot partition (hda7 in your case), boot disk
> option is available.
>
> jerry
I used expert install on my second harddrive with cdrom as secondary slave and 
ide0 disabled. Install was flawless, except I couldn't get kmail to work 
(might have been firewall problem if I could find the firewall) sound card is 
recognized but can't find the volume control, it is very sparse for apps with 
only one cd.  Oh yeah, I forgot that I had hdc mounted on my main hda and so 
when it changed the partitions with the OS install on hdc my hda boot up 
install failed on errors on /dev/hdc1, couldn't get a recovery so had to 
reinstall and wipe /usr and the /hdc1 and /hdc6 partitions to get hda back. 
Dumb mistake. Any hoo, I am not thrilled with the default KDE icons colors 
etc and wish I knew why kmail can recieve but not send. Said that senders 
address was missing a ? can't remember. Will try again on beta 2.  Charge on,
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[newbie] M9.1beta1 install

2003-01-13 Thread John Richard Smith
I've just had a very trying experience trying to install this.

1) ps2 mouse scrole wheel not detected at all, hardly important though.

2) no /swap partition detected

3) Bootloader refused non install , insisted on being installed

4) refused opportunity to create boot disc

5) upon reboot , found lilo had not been installed after all,though
it certainlyleft you the impression it had.

6) upon reboot old M9.0 lilo and /etc/lilo.conf presents for booting,but,

7) fsck M9.0 completed, but,

8) fsck M91beta1 fails, with error message,

repair filesystem 2# fsck /dev/hda7 (M91beta)
fsck ext2:filesystem unsupported feature(s) (/dev/hda7)
e2fsck:get newer version of e2fsck ,
repair system : yes 
y
y
y
y
y
etc etc

have to do , Alt-SysRq -b to get it to reboot,

first I try reinstalling M9.0's lilo again, no luck, same result,

so eventually after trying failsafea, nonfb, and many such efforts,
I resirt to and f1 job on M9.0 cd1 and after getting root privelages
I format /dev/hda7 , and she reboots normally.

So what's with this "e2fsck:get newer version of e2fsck ",

and what should I try next ?

I'm back on M9.0 desktop, with a formatted /dev/hda7

John


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