RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 installation hangs
Title: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 installation hangs -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Rye Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 11:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 installation hangs On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:26:01 -0600 Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 12/16/02 9:14:29 PM, Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Th 60GB Western Digital HDD was formated with windoze 98 SE installed. I first tried installing 9.0 for a dual boot the standard way by just useing the Mandrake installation disc and that was the first time that the installation hung. Next I installed Partion Magic on windoze and put in a 30 GB free space partition to install mandrake 9.0 on and tried again , same result, then tried 8.2 and again same result. I then tried 8.1 and that installed with no problems, Great I thought!! I then tried to upgrade to 8.2 and 9.0 and again the same hang on both. Thanks for giving it a shot though Marc Marc I'm very late coming in on this. There was some major discussion way back in the days of 8.2 being developed on Western Digital drives. Memory is a little faded but as I recall the problem was to do with the method in which the data was written to the media ?? sans CRC I think. Do you have another brand drive to test with? For my part, Santa came early and I have a new beast to play with. PCChips M825ULR, AthlonXP 1.8, 256Mb Ram, GeForce2 MX 32mb, Seagate ST34081A hdd LG DVD-ROM DRD-8160B - dvdrom LG CDRW GCE-8240B - cdrw It will NOT accept a 9.0 install! It boots to first splash screen off either drive or floppy bootdisk without hesitation, but crashes at about 80% of the progress bar when I try to start the install process regardless of what parameters I append (noapic etc). However, 8.2 download and propak versions install without problems. Go figure!! I'll stick with 8.2 for the time being!! Cheers John One last piece of input here, Linux Journal had an inquiry about the install stall, and the guru answer was that DMA setting for the hard drive should be checked in bios, an incorrect setting can cause the install hang in any distro. For what it is worth. Maybe the CDROM is set wrong for DMA also? Somebody elses $.02. : ) Dennis M.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 installation hangs
12/13/02 12:18:26 PM, Vasiliy Boulytchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentlemen, I have had this error in the past, but I believe with FreeBSD 4.6. I do NOT remember what exactly it was that I did. OH YEAH!!! I think it was the CDROM. Believe it or not. Replace the IDE cdrom, and install will fly right through, unbelievable, but im 99 percent sure thats what i did, because Ive swapped a few HDs and it was doing the same . You can at least try. On Friday 13 December 2002 08:31 am, wouter pos wrote: I had have the same problem HELP US greetings wouter pos --- Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a set of 9.0 CDs that I am shure are good because I have used them to install 9.0 on 2 other machines. Last night I went to install mandrake on a friends machine , things seemed to be going well for the first minite or 2 and then it hung while on hard drive detection part of the installation. I tried to repeat the installation several times useing the reccomended and then the expert mode. I even tried to use Partition Magic to repartiton the hard drive first still no luck. This machine allready has windoze 98se installed on a 60 GB western digital hard drive, Athlon 1.7XP processor and 256 MB ram I was useing a cd drive installed on IDE channel 2 and operating as a slave. Could this be the problem ? I have never tried to install off a cd that was a slave before however it seems to me that It should be ok. Any one have any Ideas where this installation is going wrong? Thanks in advance Marc I tried switching the CD drive to master, no luck Then I replaced the CD drive with a new one fresh out of the box and still no luck. Tried mandrake 8.2 instead of 9.0 and still no luck. I then tried to install 8.1 IT WORKED!!! After that I tried to upgrade to 9.0 and back to the same old story, the installation hung in the same spot again. Anyone have any idea what is going on and how to fix it? Thanks Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 installation hangs
Marc, Yeap, its a driver issue, its the limited amount of drivers loaded into 9.0 kernel. H, did you replace the CDROM with the same model of the CDROM? Search on Mandrake for errate on your Hardware manufacturers. I thought we were done with this crap years ago On Monday 16 December 2002 06:59 am, Marc wrote: 12/13/02 12:18:26 PM, Vasiliy Boulytchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentlemen, I have had this error in the past, but I believe with FreeBSD 4.6. I do NOT remember what exactly it was that I did. OH YEAH!!! I think it was the CDROM. Believe it or not. Replace the IDE cdrom, and install will fly right through, unbelievable, but im 99 percent sure thats what i did, because Ive swapped a few HDs and it was doing the same . You can at least try. On Friday 13 December 2002 08:31 am, wouter pos wrote: I had have the same problem HELP US greetings wouter pos --- Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a set of 9.0 CDs that I am shure are good because I have used them to install 9.0 on 2 other machines. Last night I went to install mandrake on a friends machine , things seemed to be going well for the first minite or 2 and then it hung while on hard drive detection part of the installation. I tried to repeat the installation several times useing the reccomended and then the expert mode. I even tried to use Partition Magic to repartiton the hard drive first still no luck. This machine allready has windoze 98se installed on a 60 GB western digital hard drive, Athlon 1.7XP processor and 256 MB ram I was useing a cd drive installed on IDE channel 2 and operating as a slave. Could this be the problem ? I have never tried to install off a cd that was a slave before however it seems to me that It should be ok. Any one have any Ideas where this installation is going wrong? Thanks in advance Marc I tried switching the CD drive to master, no luck Then I replaced the CD drive with a new one fresh out of the box and still no luck. Tried mandrake 8.2 instead of 9.0 and still no luck. I then tried to install 8.1 IT WORKED!!! After that I tried to upgrade to 9.0 and back to the same old story, the installation hung in the same spot again. Anyone have any idea what is going on and how to fix it? Thanks Marc -- Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies Inc. (719) 473-2800 x15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 installation hangs
I replaced it with a different model and manufactuer cd drive. Also it does make it to the second level part of the installation. The first part where I am asked to select language and type of installation , reccomended or expert seems to work just fine. The problem is in the next stage. it hangs on detecting hard drive. At this point I can still use the mouse pointer that appears as a wrist wach however I am unable to do anything else. To get out of the installation I have to do a hard restart. I really dont understand the fine points of installing a OS but it seems to me that if it was a issue with a driver for the cd the installation would not make it through the first stage. Please correct me if I am wrong. Just trying to mae some sense of it all and maybe learn a bit along the way. Thanks for all the help so far. Marc Marc, Yeap, its a driver issue, its the limited amount of drivers loaded into 9.0 kernel. H, did you replace the CDROM with the same model of the CDROM? Search on Mandrake for errate on your Hardware manufacturers. I thought we were done with this crap years ago On Monday 16 December 2002 06:59 am, Marc wrote: 12/13/02 12:18:26 PM, Vasiliy Boulytchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentlemen, I have had this error in the past, but I believe with FreeBSD 4.6. I do NOT remember what exactly it was that I did. OH YEAH!!! I think it was the CDROM. Believe it or not. Replace the IDE cdrom, and install will fly right through, unbelievable, but im 99 percent sure thats what i did, because Ive swapped a few HDs and it was doing the same . You can at least try. On Friday 13 December 2002 08:31 am, wouter pos wrote: I had have the same problem HELP US greetings wouter pos --- Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a set of 9.0 CDs that I am shure are good because I have used them to install 9.0 on 2 other machines. Last night I went to install mandrake on a friends machine , things seemed to be going well for the first minite or 2 and then it hung while on hard drive detection part of the installation. I tried to repeat the installation several times useing the reccomended and then the expert mode. I even tried to use Partition Magic to repartiton the hard drive first still no luck. This machine allready has windoze 98se installed on a 60 GB western digital hard drive, Athlon 1.7XP processor and 256 MB ram I was useing a cd drive installed on IDE channel 2 and operating as a slave. Could this be the problem ? I have never tried to install off a cd that was a slave before however it seems to me that It should be ok. Any one have any Ideas where this installation is going wrong? Thanks in advance Marc I tried switching the CD drive to master, no luck Then I replaced the CD drive with a new one fresh out of the box and still no luck. Tried mandrake 8.2 instead of 9.0 and still no luck. I then tried to install 8.1 IT WORKED!!! After that I tried to upgrade to 9.0 and back to the same old story, the installation hung in the same spot again. Anyone have any idea what is going on and how to fix it? Thanks Marc -- Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies Inc. (719) 473-2800 x15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 installation hangs
I don't know if this is relevant but I had a similar problem with my g/fs machine which turned out to be the MS blue USB optical mouse she was using (she liked the colour). In desperation I took everything back to basics an used my Logitech USB mouse and everything went thru fine. I was curious and tried a complete re-install with the MS USB mouse and got the problem back again. Tried again with the Logitech mouse and no further problems. I can only suggest that mdk 9 is touchy about the 'rodent' you use as I've noticed previously others had mouse problems after 9 was released. May not be the problem but just sharing my experience with the list. HTH Graham Marc wrote: I replaced it with a different model and manufactuer cd drive. Also it does make it to the second level part of the installation. The first part where I am asked to select language and type of installation , reccomended or expert seems to work just fine. The problem is in the next stage. it hangs on detecting hard drive. At this point I can still use the mouse pointer that appears as a wrist wach however I am unable to do anything else. To get out of the installation I have to do a hard restart. I really dont understand the fine points of installing a OS but it seems to me that if it was a issue with a driver for the cd the installation would not make it through the first stage. Please correct me if I am wrong. Just trying to mae some sense of it all and maybe learn a bit along the way. Thanks for all the help so far. Marc Marc, Yeap, its a driver issue, its the limited amount of drivers loaded into 9.0 kernel. H, did you replace the CDROM with the same model of the CDROM? Search on Mandrake for errate on your Hardware manufacturers. I thought we were done with this crap years ago On Monday 16 December 2002 06:59 am, Marc wrote: 12/13/02 12:18:26 PM, Vasiliy Boulytchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentlemen, I have had this error in the past, but I believe with FreeBSD 4.6. I do NOT remember what exactly it was that I did. OH YEAH!!! I think it was the CDROM. Believe it or not. Replace the IDE cdrom, and install will fly right through, unbelievable, but im 99 percent sure thats what i did, because Ive swapped a few HDs and it was doing the same . You can at least try. On Friday 13 December 2002 08:31 am, wouter pos wrote: I had have the same problem HELP US greetings wouter pos --- Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a set of 9.0 CDs that I am shure are good because I have used them to install 9.0 on 2 other machines. Last night I went to install mandrake on a friends machine , things seemed to be going well for the first minite or 2 and then it hung while on hard drive detection part of the installation. I tried to repeat the installation several times useing the reccomended and then the expert mode. I even tried to use Partition Magic to repartiton the hard drive first still no luck. This machine allready has windoze 98se installed on a 60 GB western digital hard drive, Athlon 1.7XP processor and 256 MB ram I was useing a cd drive installed on IDE channel 2 and operating as a slave. Could this be the problem ? I have never tried to install off a cd that was a slave before however it seems to me that It should be ok. Any one have any Ideas where this installation is going wrong? Thanks in advance Marc I tried switching the CD drive to master, no luck Then I replaced the CD drive with a new one fresh out of the box and still no luck. Tried mandrake 8.2 instead of 9.0 and still no luck. I then tried to install 8.1 IT WORKED!!! After that I tried to upgrade to 9.0 and back to the same old story, the installation hung in the same spot again. Anyone have any idea what is going on and how to fix it? Thanks Marc -- Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies Inc. (719) 473-2800 x15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake 9.0 installation hangs
I have a set of 9.0 CDs that I am shure are good because I have used them to install 9.0 on 2 other machines. Last night I went to install mandrake on a friends machine , things seemed to be going well for the first minite or 2 and then it hung while on hard drive detection part of the installation. I tried to repeat the installation several times useing the reccomended and then the expert mode. I even tried to use Partition Magic to repartiton the hard drive first still no luck. This machine allready has windoze 98se installed on a 60 GB western digital hard drive, Athlon 1.7XP processor and 256 MB ram I was useing a cd drive installed on IDE channel 2 and operating as a slave. Could this be the problem ? I have never tried to install off a cd that was a slave before however it seems to me that It should be ok. Any one have any Ideas where this installation is going wrong? Thanks in advance Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 installation hangs
I had have the same problem HELP US greetings wouter pos --- Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a set of 9.0 CDs that I am shure are good because I have used them to install 9.0 on 2 other machines. Last night I went to install mandrake on a friends machine , things seemed to be going well for the first minite or 2 and then it hung while on hard drive detection part of the installation. I tried to repeat the installation several times useing the reccomended and then the expert mode. I even tried to use Partition Magic to repartiton the hard drive first still no luck. This machine allready has windoze 98se installed on a 60 GB western digital hard drive, Athlon 1.7XP processor and 256 MB ram I was useing a cd drive installed on IDE channel 2 and operating as a slave. Could this be the problem ? I have never tried to install off a cd that was a slave before however it seems to me that It should be ok. Any one have any Ideas where this installation is going wrong? Thanks in advance Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = Visit http://www.xs4all.nl/~wpos For dj exalted online !! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
