Re: [newbie] Modem difficulties
Original Message Follows From: Rick Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is. So, forget all these .config files we seem to have to manually edit with wonderful devices such as VI. [BLEAH!!] You know, there _are_ more intuitive editors out there--lots of them, in fact. I like pico, but kedit is pretty good as well. Of course, there aren't that many cases any more where you _have_ to manually edit the .conf files, as software like linuxconf and others tend to work as well. Also, I guess this means you've never had to hack the Windows registry? Nope. Never have. In as much as I'm comfortable using regedit, I've never had to use it to get something to work. That's not the point. Having to manually edit things was one of the major downfalls of OffulStinky/2. Then, of course, they were plagued by bad management, marketing and just a plain gawd awful stupid looking system. Heck, I'm running 2000 release candidate 1 now. Yes, the betas had their problems. But, that's why they call them BETA!!! When you can make a version of this Linux, whether it be Red Hat or Mandrake, that's better at plug 'n play than Windows, maybe more of us will start using it on a more pronounced basis. "So, quitcherbeleakin" yourself. Linux is getting much better at PnP, though it admittedly isn't to the level of Windows yet. Windows isn't anywhere near the level of the Mac, either, so why are you holding Windows out as the holy grail of PnP? Because it is. Unix has been around eons before Mr. Gates' MSDOS or even Windows. You'd think that someone would have gotten it right by now. Gates took the MacIntrash environment and made it work. One of my many employment endeavors was collecting shareware and freeware for the PC, Mac, Amiga [now THERE's an underrated machine] and the Atari. I've been there, done that and saw the movie. My first computer was in 1979. It was a TRS-80 Model I Level I with 16K of memory and the only storage device was a casette recorder. That was back just before the Crapple ][ came out with it's TRS-80 wannabe style. ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
[newbie] Modem difficulties
Thus far I have figured out how to get connected to my ISP. I have setup Kppp with the DNS and everything dials up seemingly correct. But, this is where my issue is, when I attempt to use Netscape it can't look up any pages I try to access. Even when I put the IP address in directly so a domain look up isn't needed. I also have a second issue. I have a 56k V.90 Acer Modem and it can't seem to get it to connect any higher than 38600 in Linux but I get 49333 in windows. Any suggestions? Thanks to everyone, Brian P.S. Thanks to all who have helped so for with my Voodoo3 questions.
Re: [newbie] Modem difficulties
On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, you wrote: Thus far I have figured out how to get connected to my ISP. I have setup Kppp with the DNS and everything dials up seemingly correct. But, this is where my issue is, when I attempt to use Netscape it can't look up any pages I try to access. Even when I put the IP address in directly so a domain look up isn't needed. I also have a second issue. I have a 56k V.90 Acer Modem and it can't seem to get it to connect any higher than 38600 in Linux but I get 49333 in windows. Any suggestions? Thanks to everyone, Brian P.S. Thanks to all who have helped so for with my Voodoo3 questions. -- Well I will address your modem speed issue since I hear some of our users complain about this quite a bit. Modems initially connect at the best speed. however windows is not always true with it. Sometimes it connects at a speed a little too high. Your modem will retrain itself to get to its maximal speed whether it be slowing down or speeding up. I would do a file transfer to see if the transfer speed is the same. If not try playing around with init strings. You'd be amazed at how many people connect at 49k and then we look at there actual speed on the terminal server and its like 40k. this used to be a big flaw in the old x2. I think v.90 is the worst thing since windows. Anyone who doesnt connect at the impossible 56,000 thinks that there isp is messed up little do they know that their is many factors that play roles in your connect speed. Regards, Gavin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ENTER.NET - "The Road to the Internet Starts Here!" (tm) (610) 437-2221 * http://www.enter.net/ * email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Modem difficulties
Douglas Nordwall New Mexico Highlands University [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rex.nmhu.edu/~musashi On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Sengir wrote: Thus far I have figured out how to get connected to my ISP. I have setup Kppp with the DNS and everything dials up seemingly correct. But, this is where my issue is, when I attempt to use Netscape it can't look up any pages I try to access. Even when I put the IP address in directly so a domain look up isn't needed. Are you behind a proxy/firewall? trying pinging an internet address. That should tell you a lot. Also. do an ifconfig and a route to make sure that you have the ppp interface up and that it has a route out. I also have a second issue. I have a 56k V.90 Acer Modem and it can't seem to get it to connect any higher than 38600 in Linux but I get 49333 in windows. Any suggestions? turn off your flow control. This one got me for a while. Thanks to everyone, Brian P.S. Thanks to all who have helped so for with my Voodoo3 questions.
Re: [[newbie] Modem difficulties]
"Sengir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thus far I have figured out how to get connected to my ISP. I have setup Kppp with the DNS and everything dials up seemingly correct. But, this is where my issue is, when I attempt to use Netscape it can't look up any pages I try to access. Even when I put the IP address in directly so a domain look up isn't needed. == Try entering "nameserver DNS#" (w/o quotes) in /etc/resolv.conf If your ISP has provided you with two numbers, you can repeat this on a second line. === I also have a second issue. I have a 56k V.90 Acer Modem and it can't seem to get it to connect any higher than 38600 in Linux but I get 49333 in windows. Any suggestions? = Not sure on this one. I get almost identical speeds either way [though I haven't booted into windows in a while ;o)] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [[newbie] Modem difficulties]
- Original Message - From: Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [[newbie] Modem difficulties] I also have a second issue. I have a 56k V.90 Acer Modem and it can't seem to get it to connect any higher than 38600 in Linux but I get 49333 in windows. Any suggestions? = Not sure on this one. I get almost identical speeds either way [though I haven't booted into windows in a while ;o)] Windows has a bad habit of lying about it's true connect speed...it reports the MAXIMUM connect speed and you modem often retrains BACK down to a more stable speed. John
Re: [newbie] Modem difficulties
I'm sorry Gavin but as one that just left a position as technical support for a medium sized ISP after almost 2 years, I can say that most of my customers are smart enough to not expect that mythical 56K speed. For the most part, we're aware that the speed is multidependent in that it comes close to the restrictions on DSL connects. Things like number of pairs in any given cable, the ambient temperature around those pairs and the possibility of noise from outside influences including the number of birds sitting on any given cable and how many of their toes are touching the wires. They would, however, like to achieve at least 33.6K or at least the average 40K connect speeds. Also, you *nix guys that seem to have nothing but bad things to say about Windows are slowly realizing what some of us are finding out about *nix in a more pronounced way. Obviously these vendors, such as Diamond and others, that refuse to write drivers for *nix must know something that we don't. Somebody once commented about the plug 'n play capabilities of Windows. I'm finding that it's even less pronounced in *nix. So, quitcherbeleakin. Some of us don't really care how to make a watch. We just want to know what time it is. So, forget all these .config files we seem to have to manually edit with wonderful devices such as VI. [BLEAH!!] When you can make a version of this Linux, whether it be Red Hat or Mandrake, that's better at plug 'n play than Windows, maybe more of us will start using it on a more pronounced basis. It's starting to sound like the OS/2 wars we used to get into years ago. Then, let's not forget about CP/M even a few more years ago that I owned 3 different copies of that were totally incompatible with each other. Forget the competition. [Oh yeah, I'm leaving my position as technical support because of an acquisition and a merger. Not because of anything I did.] Original Message Follows On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, you wrote: You'd be amazed at how many people connect at 49k and then we look at there actual speed on the terminal server and its like 40k. this used to be a big flaw in the old x2. I think v.90 is the worst thing since windows. Anyone who doesnt connect at the impossible 56,000 thinks that there isp is messed up little do they know that their is many factors that play roles in your connect speed. Regards, Gavin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ENTER.NET - "The Road to the Internet Starts Here!" (tm) (610) 437-2221 * http://www.enter.net/ * email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Modem difficulties
From: Rick Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] more pronounced way. Obviously these vendors, such as Diamond and others, that refuse to write drivers for *nix must know something that we don't. And what, do you think, would that be? I can tell you one thing that we all know: there are more Windows users than there are Linux users (duh!). So, where will Diamond's efforts most efficiently be invested? In Windows development, so that a given amount of effort will have the greatest return. They may or may not be right, but I expect that's their motivation. In any case, I'd be willing to bet that it has nothing to do with the capabilities of the OS. it is. So, forget all these .config files we seem to have to manually edit with wonderful devices such as VI. [BLEAH!!] You know, there _are_ more intuitive editors out there--lots of them, in fact. I like pico, but kedit is pretty good as well. Of course, there aren't that many cases any more where you _have_ to manually edit the .conf files, as software like linuxconf and others tend to work as well. Also, I guess this means you've never had to hack the Windows registry? When you can make a version of this Linux, whether it be Red Hat or Mandrake, that's better at plug 'n play than Windows, maybe more of us will start using it on a more pronounced basis. "So, quitcherbeleakin" yourself. Linux is getting much better at PnP, though it admittedly isn't to the level of Windows yet. Windows isn't anywhere near the level of the Mac, either, so why are you holding Windows out as the holy grail of PnP?
