Re: [newbie] My network hates Linux ='(...how can I fix this?
On Monday 26 January 2004 08:26 pm, marc resnick wrote: The linksys is a BEFW11S4, a Wireless-B Broadband Router. I'll try the hard reset, and get back to you on that. Okay, on that router, on the DHCP tab, there is a starting IP addresses that allows you to specify the beginning IP address. I would guess that this is set to 100. There is also a DHCP Clients button, this brings up the section that allows you to assign a permanent IP address by MAC address. The reason that you would want to have a permanent IP address is for port forwarding. When you forward a port, say port 21 to enable an ftp server, you need to send it to the same machine. The easiest way to do this is to specify an IP address and make sure that the server always gets the same IP. If you were previously running servers, then you probably have at least one or two IP's specified as static. Either clear out permanent assignments or make sure that that the assigned IP falls outside the range of dynamic addresses. So, if the starting address is 100 and you have allowed 50 users, you can assign either 192.168.1.151-253 or 192.168.1.2-99. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] My network hates Linux ='(...how can I fix this?
On Tuesday 27 January 2004 06:55 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Monday 26 January 2004 08:26 pm, marc resnick wrote: The linksys is a BEFW11S4, a Wireless-B Broadband Router. I'll try the hard reset, and get back to you on that. Okay, on that router, on the DHCP tab, there is a starting IP addresses that allows you to specify the beginning IP address. I would guess that this is set to 100. There is also a DHCP Clients button, this brings up the section that allows you to assign a permanent IP address by MAC address. The reason that you would want to have a permanent IP address is for port forwarding. When you forward a port, say port 21 to enable an ftp server, you need to send it to the same machine. The easiest way to do this is to specify an IP address and make sure that the server always gets the same IP. If you were previously running servers, then you probably have at least one or two IP's specified as static. Either clear out permanent assignments or make sure that that the assigned IP falls outside the range of dynamic addresses. So, if the starting address is 100 and you have allowed 50 users, you can assign either 192.168.1.151-253 or 192.168.1.2-99. There is no option to set a permanent IP in the DHCP clients table... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] My network hates Linux ='(...how can I fix this?
On Tuesday 27 January 2004 03:44 pm, marc resnick wrote: Either clear out permanent assignments or make sure that that the assigned IP falls outside the range of dynamic addresses. So, if the starting address is 100 and you have allowed 50 users, you can assign either 192.168.1.151-253 or 192.168.1.2-99. There is no option to set a permanent IP in the DHCP clients table... I downloaded the manual and took a look. The screen for the DHCP clients table is missing from the pdf manual so I can't see what it looks like. I have a Dlink 624+ and you can go to dlink's site here: http://support.dlink.com/techtool/di624_revc/emulator/h_dhcp.html and take a look at the emulator that simulates the web interface on that router. You can see that there is a section to enable the DHCP server, specify the starting and ending IP address (Linksys specifies starting IP and the number of connections which is the equivalent thing), the lease time and underneath, you can see a section for static DHCP right above the section for dynamic DHCP. You can specify by MAC address which dynamic IP is supposed to go to which MAC address. My previous router was also a Dlink, prior to that one, I did have a Linksys and have specified DHCP assignments on every single one of them, so I assume that the feature is still included. Forcing a user to use a dynamic address with NAT is very limiting given that one must forward ports to a specific IP address to enable servers and the only way to do that reliably is to know in advance which IP the server machine will get from the DHCP server. Another way to do this would be to specify the starting address as 192.168.0.105 and then set your computer up to use 192.168.0.101, since the dynamic addresses always start at 105, 101 is free to be taken as a static address. It has been quite a while since I owned a Linksys device, I do not currently have one to play with to look at the settings. If you need a step by step for your router, I would suggest trying to find someone to help you in the dslreports.com forums which you can locate here: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/equip,16 Someone there should be able to talk you through checking or setting permanent DHCP assignments on your router. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] My network hates Linux ='(...how can I fix this?
On Sunday 25 January 2004 10:12 pm, Glenn wrote: On Sunday 25 January 2004 00:36, Marc Resnick wrote: My network, running on a linksys router, really hates my linux box. It uses no encryption, and has a DHCP server providing IP info for all of the connected boxes. The problem is, every time I boot linux, I have to reset the router by unplugging it then plugging it back in, kicking my whole family offline. Then I need to do a service network restart on linux, and then disable and enable the connection on another windoze box. I've downloaded a bunch of DHCP bugfixes and updates on mdk 9.2, and upgraded the firmware for my router. Anyone have a way around it? I'm on the verge of getting tech support from linksys, and I've had some nasty experiences with tech support. There are a number of possibilities that might account for this behavior. First, the Linux box is set with a static IP address assigned that conflicts with one of the IP's that is being delegated by the linksys Router device. So, for example, the linux box is set to use 192.168.0.101 and the Router is trying to assign that address to one of the Windows boxen. When you start up, there is a conflict, when you restart the router, that removes the assigned IP addresses, restart linux claims that IP address from the router and then the other machines get other IP addresses. The solution here is to tell the router to start assigning addresses after the static one, thus start at 192.168.0.105 and leave the first few addresses for static assignments. Another possibility. You have set the router to assign a specific IP address to a MAC address that belongs to the network card in the LInux box. But the address assignments start at that address. So, the router gives the address to one of the windows boxen, then the Linux box tries to claim the address via MAC assignment, again there is a conflict with the restart resolving the conflict. This happens when you create a static assignment in the Linksys but then tell the router to start assigning addresses before or at the static assignment. I.E., I tell the router to assign 192.168.0.101 to MAC address AA-EB-16-02-DC, then tell it to start assigning addresses at 192.168.0.100. The first box on the net gets 100, the second 101, then the MAC address comes along and can't pick up 101 cause it has already been assigned. The solution here is the same as the first one, tell the router to start assigning addresses after the static ones, so start at 192.168.0.105 and leave the first few for static assignments. If you really want to troubleshoot this, we would need to know any static assignments in the router, where it starts assigning addresses and how each of the windows and linux boxen are configured. Another possible solution is to hard reset the Linksys router, clearing all of the configuration info from the device and then see if the problem goes away. If so, my guess would be a configuration conflict in the router. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] My network hates Linux ='(...how can I fix this?
On Monday 26 January 2004 05:44 pm, marc resnick wrote: Brian, These possibilities seem probably, thank you for your help. My router(192.168.1.1) is a Linksys, if that helps at all. In the administrative settings, I go to DHCP. I see no option to start with static IPs, nor do I see it in any other category. Would it go by some technical word that I'm unaware of? There are a number of Linksys routers, you might want to be more specific. I don't have a Linksys myself so I would need to check the documentation in the manual to suggest where you might find the settings. The other method involves doing a hard reset to restore the router to factory default settings. There is usually a reset button on router devices that you press by inserting a pin or needle into the small hole. If you hold it pressed down for 30 seconds or so, the router should reset to factory defaults. If that fixes the problem, you can then go back in and input settings again being careful to pay attention to the configuration. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] My network hates Linux ='(...how can I fix this?
On Monday 26 January 2004 08:10 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Monday 26 January 2004 05:44 pm, marc resnick wrote: Brian, These possibilities seem probably, thank you for your help. My router(192.168.1.1) is a Linksys, if that helps at all. In the administrative settings, I go to DHCP. I see no option to start with static IPs, nor do I see it in any other category. Would it go by some technical word that I'm unaware of? There are a number of Linksys routers, you might want to be more specific. I don't have a Linksys myself so I would need to check the documentation in the manual to suggest where you might find the settings. The other method involves doing a hard reset to restore the router to factory default settings. There is usually a reset button on router devices that you press by inserting a pin or needle into the small hole. If you hold it pressed down for 30 seconds or so, the router should reset to factory defaults. If that fixes the problem, you can then go back in and input settings again being careful to pay attention to the configuration. The linksys is a BEFW11S4, a Wireless-B Broadband Router. I'll try the hard reset, and get back to you on that. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] My network hates Linux ='(...how can I fix this?
My network, running on a linksys router, really hates my linux box. It uses no encryption, and has a DHCP server providing IP info for all of the connected boxes. The problem is, every time I boot linux, I have to reset the router by unplugging it then plugging it back in, kicking my whole family offline. Then I need to do a service network restart on linux, and then disable and enable the connection on another windoze box. I've downloaded a bunch of DHCP bugfixes and updates on mdk 9.2, and upgraded the firmware for my router. Anyone have a way around it? I'm on the verge of getting tech support from linksys, and I've had some nasty experiences with tech support. Thanks in advance, Marc
Re: [newbie] My network hates Linux ='(...how can I fix this?
On Sunday 25 January 2004 00:36, Marc Resnick wrote: My network, running on a linksys router, really hates my linux box. It uses no encryption, and has a DHCP server providing IP info for all of the connected boxes. The problem is, every time I boot linux, I have to reset the router by unplugging it then plugging it back in, kicking my whole family offline. Then I need to do a service network restart on linux, and then disable and enable the connection on another windoze box. I've downloaded a bunch of DHCP bugfixes and updates on mdk 9.2, and upgraded the firmware for my router. Anyone have a way around it? I'm on the verge of getting tech support from linksys, and I've had some nasty experiences with tech support. Thanks in advance, Marc Wish I could help with your problem, but I never had this problem with my Linksys router in over 3 years of use. I'm currently having to use an Actiontech combination DSL modem/router, which is also not having any problems, but feels way less secure. Thanks for the goofy toy, Qwest. Glenn -- 20:07:18 up 4 days, 3:23, running Mandrake Linux 9.2, kernel 2.4.22-26mdk on an Intel P4 1.8 Registered Linux user #324360 Everybody is given the same amount of hormones, at birth, and if you want to use yours for growing hair, that's fine with me. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] My network hates Linux ='(...how can I fix this?
On Saturday 24 January 2004 11:36 pm, Marc Resnick wrote: My network, running on a linksys router, really hates my linux box. It uses no encryption, and has a DHCP server providing IP info for all of the connected boxes. The problem is, every time I boot linux, I have to reset the router by unplugging it then plugging it back in, kicking my whole family offline. Then I need to do a service network restart on linux, and then disable and enable the connection on another windoze box. I've downloaded a bunch of DHCP bugfixes and updates on mdk 9.2, and upgraded the firmware for my router. Anyone have a way around it? I'm on the verge of getting tech support from linksys, and I've had some nasty experiences with tech support. Thanks in advance, Marc This may not help at all, but a friend of mine mentioned he had a problem with a Linksys router. IIRC, he said that one of the ports (4, I think) was shared with the outbound line, or something to that effect. He stopped using that port and the problem went away. YMMV Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] My network hates Linux ='(...how can I fix this?
I think your right Erylon. Look for the port label'd uplink on the front of the router. if you have something plugged into there and the wan side, you will need to see if there is a flag you can set in the setup to disable it as an uplink port. Troy - Original Message - From: Erylon Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2149 N6REJ Subject: Re: [newbie] My network hates Linux ='(...how can I fix this? On Saturday 24 January 2004 11:36 pm, Marc Resnick wrote: My network, running on a linksys router, really hates my linux box. It uses no encryption, and has a DHCP server providing IP info for all of the connected boxes. The problem is, every time I boot linux, I have to reset the router by unplugging it then plugging it back in, kicking my whole family offline. Then I need to do a service network restart on linux, and then disable and enable the connection on another windoze box. I've downloaded a bunch of DHCP bugfixes and updates on mdk 9.2, and upgraded the firmware for my router. Anyone have a way around it? I'm on the verge of getting tech support from linksys, and I've had some nasty experiences with tech support. Thanks in advance, Marc This may not help at all, but a friend of mine mentioned he had a problem with a Linksys router. IIRC, he said that one of the ports (4, I think) was shared with the outbound line, or something to that effect. He stopped using that port and the problem went away. YMMV Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.562 / Virus Database: 354 - Release Date: 1/16/04 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
