[newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)

2004-07-19 Thread Marc Hultquist
What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well 
while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its 
unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\

Anyone care to shed some light on this ?
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Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)

2004-07-19 Thread Aron Smith
On Monday 19 July 2004 12:19 am, Marc Hultquist wrote:
 What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well
 while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its
 unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\

 Anyone care to shed some light on this ?
Several theory's
Mandrake the Magician 
Mandrake root
Mandrake was often used and referred to in the classical world, where it was 
said to excite delirium and madness. It was also used to help put one to 
sleep during intense pain, and was chewed as an mild anaesthetic. Mandrake 
had a long reputation for being able to expell demons and act as an 
excorcist. Demons reportedly can not tolerate it's aroma. In both Eastern and 
Jewish writings there are references to Mandrake as a remover of sterility. 


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Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)

2004-07-19 Thread donmeliton
On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 09:19, Marc Hultquist wrote:
 What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well 
 while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its 
 unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\
 
 Anyone care to shed some light on this ?

http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/m/mandra10.html

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Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)

2004-07-19 Thread John Richard Smith
Marc Hultquist wrote:
What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well 
while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its 
unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\

Anyone care to shed some light on this ?
 

Webster's  says,
Mandrake \Mandrake\, n. [AS. mandragora, L. mandragoras, fr.
  Gr. ?: cf. F. mandragore.]
  1. (Bot.) A low plant (Mandragora officinarum) of the
 Nightshade family, having a fleshy root, often forked, and
 supposed to resemble a man. It was therefore supposed to
 have animal life, and to cry out when pulled up. All parts
 of the plant are strongly narcotic. It is found in the
 Mediterranean region.
   And shrieks like mandrakes, torn out of the earth,
   That living mortals, hearing them, run mad. --Shak.
  Note: The mandrake of Scripture was perhaps the same plant,
but proof is wanting.
I believe it was used in english medieval times for medicinal purposes.
I expect it was an early ruling class version of coke.
John
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Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)

2004-07-19 Thread PM
On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 12:49, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Marc Hultquist wrote:
 
 What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well 
 while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its 
 unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\
 
 Anyone care to shed some light on this ?

 
 I believe it was used in english medieval times for medicinal purposes.
 I expect it was an early ruling class version of coke.
 
 John

Don't forget also that King Features sued Mandrake last year over the
use of the name - 'Mandrake the Magician', seems everybody had been
confusing the distribution with the comic strip. (That's why I couldn't
get 'The Gimp' to work!).

***

http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/R/real_wizards/witches_t.html

describes mandrake's use by witches - a witch I knew 30 years ago was
using it (he ground it to a paste  rubbed it on his temples).

Through the ages, magic often involved taking drugs and seeing things.
Where the druids had ergot and the shamans had mushrooms, witches had
mandrake. The mandrake has long been regarded as having magical
properties, perhaps because its forked root gives the plant a human-like
shape. According to tradition, the plant would scream when it was pulled
out of the ground. Consequently, mandrake was not dug up by hand;
instead, a dog would be harnessed to the root and encouraged to drag it
out of the ground. 


The mysteries of the mandrake are not limited to its shape. It is
related to henbane and deadly nightshade. All three contain a number of
very powerful alkaloids. When absorbed into the body, these chemical
substances can cause double vision, hallucination and even coma. With
their knowledge of the effects of mandrake, witches would have been able
to dose themselves to produce the required effects without risking their
lives. 

The witch's cauldron would have been used to boil the herbs in a fatty
solution; this produced an ointment that the witch would smear on her
body. A trance-like state would follow, with the witch experiencing
sensations of flying - this is probably the origin of the familiar
imagery of witches flying on broomsticks. Witches, like druids and
shamans before them, derived some of their authority from their apparent
ability to travel into another world.

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he's on.
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Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)

2004-07-19 Thread JRH
Also, go back to the early 1970's..

Anyone remember the group Deep Purple??

Why did they call their track Mandrake Root?? did they know something way
back then?

JRH

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Subject: Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)


 On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 12:49, John Richard Smith wrote:
  Marc Hultquist wrote:
 
  What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and
well
  while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out.
Its
  unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\
  
  Anyone care to shed some light on this ?

 
  I believe it was used in english medieval times for medicinal purposes.
  I expect it was an early ruling class version of coke.
 
  John

 Don't forget also that King Features sued Mandrake last year over the
 use of the name - 'Mandrake the Magician', seems everybody had been
 confusing the distribution with the comic strip. (That's why I couldn't
 get 'The Gimp' to work!).

 ***

 http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/R/real_wizards/witches_t.html

 describes mandrake's use by witches - a witch I knew 30 years ago was
 using it (he ground it to a paste  rubbed it on his temples).

 Through the ages, magic often involved taking drugs and seeing things.
 Where the druids had ergot and the shamans had mushrooms, witches had
 mandrake. The mandrake has long been regarded as having magical
 properties, perhaps because its forked root gives the plant a human-like
 shape. According to tradition, the plant would scream when it was pulled
 out of the ground. Consequently, mandrake was not dug up by hand;
 instead, a dog would be harnessed to the root and encouraged to drag it
 out of the ground.


 The mysteries of the mandrake are not limited to its shape. It is
 related to henbane and deadly nightshade. All three contain a number of
 very powerful alkaloids. When absorbed into the body, these chemical
 substances can cause double vision, hallucination and even coma. With
 their knowledge of the effects of mandrake, witches would have been able
 to dose themselves to produce the required effects without risking their
 lives.

 The witch's cauldron would have been used to boil the herbs in a fatty
 solution; this produced an ointment that the witch would smear on her
 body. A trance-like state would follow, with the witch experiencing
 sensations of flying - this is probably the origin of the familiar
 imagery of witches flying on broomsticks. Witches, like druids and
 shamans before them, derived some of their authority from their apparent
 ability to travel into another world.

 -- 
 pm
 
 The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side
 he's on.
 Joseph Heller, Catch 22









 
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Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)

2004-07-19 Thread Marc Hultquist
 Also, go back to the early 1970's..
 Anyone remember the group Deep Purple??
 Why did they call their track Mandrake Root?? did they know something way
 back then?
 JRH
Can't say I was alive back then :-) but yes, maybe its a whole big thing that 
the developers of MDK Linux were origionally in the band. Maybe not but I am 
trying to pass time so I can go home ! ;-)
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 Quote: Its a bad idea for geeks to be on low-carb diets. Low-carb means no 
sugar, no sugar means cravings, cravings mean a loss of concentration, losing 
concentration makes geeks irritable and geeks run the computers that run the 
world's banks and militaries !!! . . . . . . .  . YE GODS !!! Give me a 
frosted chocolate cake before we plunge into anarchy !!! - (c) J.D. Illad 
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Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)

2004-07-19 Thread et
On Monday 19 July 2004 08:33 am, Marc Hultquist wrote:
  Also, go back to the early 1970's..
  Anyone remember the group Deep Purple??
  Why did they call their track Mandrake Root?? did they know something
  way back then?
  JRH

 Can't say I was alive back then :-) but yes, maybe its a whole big thing
 that the developers of MDK Linux were origionally in the band. Maybe not
 but I am trying to pass time so I can go home ! ;-)
hey Marc, can I invite you over to the OT list? where we attempt to keep the 
none Mandrake related stuff off the tech lists? it's pretty quite there 
today, but is a ?decent? bunch, that have not robbed a freight train (this 
morning anyway).
[EMAIL PROTECTED], should get you a conformation that you want to 
join, ifn you send a message.


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