[newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\ Anyone care to shed some light on this ? -- Marc Hultquist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Computerkit Systems (Pty) Ltd http://www.cks.co.za (P) +27 11 695 5317 (F) +27 11 312 1408 (C) +27 82 563 2861 Quote: Its a bad idea for geeks to be on low-carb diets. Low-carb means no sugar, no sugar means cravings, cravings mean a loss of concentration, losing concentration makes geeks irritable and geeks run the computers that run the world's banks and militaries !!! . . . . . . . . YE GODS !!! Give me a frosted chocolate cake before we plunge into anarchy !!! - (c) J.D. Illad Frazer(Userfriendly.org) Confidentiality Notice: The above message and all attachments may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from your computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the view of the entity transmitting the message. Computerkit Retail Systems (Pty) Ltd hereby distances itself from and accepts no liability in respect of the unauthorised use of its e-mail facility or the sending of e-mail communications for other than strictly business purposes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
On Monday 19 July 2004 12:19 am, Marc Hultquist wrote: What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\ Anyone care to shed some light on this ? Several theory's Mandrake the Magician Mandrake root Mandrake was often used and referred to in the classical world, where it was said to excite delirium and madness. It was also used to help put one to sleep during intense pain, and was chewed as an mild anaesthetic. Mandrake had a long reputation for being able to expell demons and act as an excorcist. Demons reportedly can not tolerate it's aroma. In both Eastern and Jewish writings there are references to Mandrake as a remover of sterility. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 09:19, Marc Hultquist wrote: What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\ Anyone care to shed some light on this ? http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/m/mandra10.html Germn. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
Marc Hultquist wrote: What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\ Anyone care to shed some light on this ? Webster's says, Mandrake \Mandrake\, n. [AS. mandragora, L. mandragoras, fr. Gr. ?: cf. F. mandragore.] 1. (Bot.) A low plant (Mandragora officinarum) of the Nightshade family, having a fleshy root, often forked, and supposed to resemble a man. It was therefore supposed to have animal life, and to cry out when pulled up. All parts of the plant are strongly narcotic. It is found in the Mediterranean region. And shrieks like mandrakes, torn out of the earth, That living mortals, hearing them, run mad. --Shak. Note: The mandrake of Scripture was perhaps the same plant, but proof is wanting. I believe it was used in english medieval times for medicinal purposes. I expect it was an early ruling class version of coke. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 12:49, John Richard Smith wrote: Marc Hultquist wrote: What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\ Anyone care to shed some light on this ? I believe it was used in english medieval times for medicinal purposes. I expect it was an early ruling class version of coke. John Don't forget also that King Features sued Mandrake last year over the use of the name - 'Mandrake the Magician', seems everybody had been confusing the distribution with the comic strip. (That's why I couldn't get 'The Gimp' to work!). *** http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/R/real_wizards/witches_t.html describes mandrake's use by witches - a witch I knew 30 years ago was using it (he ground it to a paste rubbed it on his temples). Through the ages, magic often involved taking drugs and seeing things. Where the druids had ergot and the shamans had mushrooms, witches had mandrake. The mandrake has long been regarded as having magical properties, perhaps because its forked root gives the plant a human-like shape. According to tradition, the plant would scream when it was pulled out of the ground. Consequently, mandrake was not dug up by hand; instead, a dog would be harnessed to the root and encouraged to drag it out of the ground. The mysteries of the mandrake are not limited to its shape. It is related to henbane and deadly nightshade. All three contain a number of very powerful alkaloids. When absorbed into the body, these chemical substances can cause double vision, hallucination and even coma. With their knowledge of the effects of mandrake, witches would have been able to dose themselves to produce the required effects without risking their lives. The witch's cauldron would have been used to boil the herbs in a fatty solution; this produced an ointment that the witch would smear on her body. A trance-like state would follow, with the witch experiencing sensations of flying - this is probably the origin of the familiar imagery of witches flying on broomsticks. Witches, like druids and shamans before them, derived some of their authority from their apparent ability to travel into another world. -- pm The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on. Joseph Heller, Catch 22 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
Also, go back to the early 1970's.. Anyone remember the group Deep Purple?? Why did they call their track Mandrake Root?? did they know something way back then? JRH - Original Message - From: PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-) On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 12:49, John Richard Smith wrote: Marc Hultquist wrote: What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\ Anyone care to shed some light on this ? I believe it was used in english medieval times for medicinal purposes. I expect it was an early ruling class version of coke. John Don't forget also that King Features sued Mandrake last year over the use of the name - 'Mandrake the Magician', seems everybody had been confusing the distribution with the comic strip. (That's why I couldn't get 'The Gimp' to work!). *** http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/R/real_wizards/witches_t.html describes mandrake's use by witches - a witch I knew 30 years ago was using it (he ground it to a paste rubbed it on his temples). Through the ages, magic often involved taking drugs and seeing things. Where the druids had ergot and the shamans had mushrooms, witches had mandrake. The mandrake has long been regarded as having magical properties, perhaps because its forked root gives the plant a human-like shape. According to tradition, the plant would scream when it was pulled out of the ground. Consequently, mandrake was not dug up by hand; instead, a dog would be harnessed to the root and encouraged to drag it out of the ground. The mysteries of the mandrake are not limited to its shape. It is related to henbane and deadly nightshade. All three contain a number of very powerful alkaloids. When absorbed into the body, these chemical substances can cause double vision, hallucination and even coma. With their knowledge of the effects of mandrake, witches would have been able to dose themselves to produce the required effects without risking their lives. The witch's cauldron would have been used to boil the herbs in a fatty solution; this produced an ointment that the witch would smear on her body. A trance-like state would follow, with the witch experiencing sensations of flying - this is probably the origin of the familiar imagery of witches flying on broomsticks. Witches, like druids and shamans before them, derived some of their authority from their apparent ability to travel into another world. -- pm The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on. Joseph Heller, Catch 22 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
Also, go back to the early 1970's.. Anyone remember the group Deep Purple?? Why did they call their track Mandrake Root?? did they know something way back then? JRH Can't say I was alive back then :-) but yes, maybe its a whole big thing that the developers of MDK Linux were origionally in the band. Maybe not but I am trying to pass time so I can go home ! ;-) -- Marc Hultquist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Computerkit Systems (Pty) Ltd http://www.cks.co.za (P) +27 11 695 5317 (F) +27 11 312 1408 (C) +27 82 563 2861 Quote: Its a bad idea for geeks to be on low-carb diets. Low-carb means no sugar, no sugar means cravings, cravings mean a loss of concentration, losing concentration makes geeks irritable and geeks run the computers that run the world's banks and militaries !!! . . . . . . . . YE GODS !!! Give me a frosted chocolate cake before we plunge into anarchy !!! - (c) J.D. Illad Frazer(Userfriendly.org) Confidentiality Notice: The above message and all attachments may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from your computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the view of the entity transmitting the message. Computerkit Retail Systems (Pty) Ltd hereby distances itself from and accepts no liability in respect of the unauthorised use of its e-mail facility or the sending of e-mail communications for other than strictly business purposes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
On Monday 19 July 2004 08:33 am, Marc Hultquist wrote: Also, go back to the early 1970's.. Anyone remember the group Deep Purple?? Why did they call their track Mandrake Root?? did they know something way back then? JRH Can't say I was alive back then :-) but yes, maybe its a whole big thing that the developers of MDK Linux were origionally in the band. Maybe not but I am trying to pass time so I can go home ! ;-) hey Marc, can I invite you over to the OT list? where we attempt to keep the none Mandrake related stuff off the tech lists? it's pretty quite there today, but is a ?decent? bunch, that have not robbed a freight train (this morning anyway). [EMAIL PROTECTED], should get you a conformation that you want to join, ifn you send a message. -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com