Re: [newbie] OT Journaling, gotta love it
On Thu, 30 May 2002 05:23, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 29 May 2002 09:17 am, daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Wed, 29 May 2002, Tom Brinkman wrote: Which file system? Anyhow, you really should have your system on an UPS if power outages are any more than a very rare occurrence. An UPS will also keep power steady and protect your hardware from spikes and brownouts. While the FS can escape damage, your hardware sometimes can't. Just out of curiosity, how many systems can you safely run on one UPS? Mark I've got a Tbird oc'd to 1.55 gig, Cdrom, CD-RW, 2 HDD's, 17 monitor, and a Altec Lansing subwoofer sound system IOW's a real power hog. I've got an old APC BackUPS 500 that'll keep it all runnin for ~15 minutes when the power goes south. The batteries are original, and I've not needed to replace 'em, or seen a drop in their performance. Just as important, maybe more so tho, an UPS feeds clean power to the system, no spikes or drops. Very important for sensitive electronics reliability and performance. It's only a 500VA UPS, but plenty for a single desk top system. Price was $123 some 5 years ago. They make other UPS systems that can handle multiple systems, even up to multiple rack servers. 'Course they cost more $$'s. APC is the preferred brand, but there's other good ones. They're heavy, so buyin one locally (I got mine at Wall*Mart) is probly a better option than buyin online and payin lot'sa shipping. FWIW, since I asked, after 3 experiences with XFS, I'm back to good 'ol tried'n true ReiserFS for all my Linux partitions. Sort'a way OT, I got a 350W inverter for $47 from Wally World a few months ago. It'll run a 19 TV for 5 to 6 hours off the battery in my Chevy ... and then the truck still starts like nothin was drainin it. It's magic!! So after I have to shut down the computer when the power goes out at least I can still watch TV by candle light ;) Ah, re your earlier question. it was XFS. First power cut this year. I pull the plug when lightnings around. That many volts can jump a switchgap anyway if it feels like it. I have a zapguard multiway power box with all 'puter sockets plugged into it to get in the way of small spikes. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT Journaling, gotta love it
Had a power cut last night. I had bluefish, kwrite, Mozilla, and a terminal all open. The power went came back up for two seconds then died again. I switched the switch at the wall and chewed my nails until the power came back up an hour later. Mandrake started as if i had asked for a restart. No apps, but no corruption. Thankyou god/s. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Journaling, gotta love it
On Wednesday 29 May 2002 03:22 am, Michael Adams wrote: Had a power cut last night. I had bluefish, kwrite, Mozilla, and a terminal all open. The power went came back up for two seconds then died again. I switched the switch at the wall and chewed my nails until the power came back up an hour later. Mandrake started as if i had asked for a restart. No apps, but no corruption. Thankyou god/s. Which file system? Anyhow, you really should have your system on an UPS if power outages are any more than a very rare occurrence. An UPS will also keep power steady and protect your hardware from spikes and brownouts. While the FS can escape damage, your hardware sometimes can't. -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Journaling, gotta love it
On Wed, 29 May 2002, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 29 May 2002 03:22 am, Michael Adams wrote: Had a power cut last night. I had bluefish, kwrite, Mozilla, and a terminal all open. The power went came back up for two seconds then died again. I switched the switch at the wall and chewed my nails until the power came back up an hour later. Mandrake started as if i had asked for a restart. No apps, but no corruption. Thankyou god/s. Which file system? Anyhow, you really should have your system on an UPS if power outages are any more than a very rare occurrence. An UPS will also keep power steady and protect your hardware from spikes and brownouts. While the FS can escape damage, your hardware sometimes can't. Hi Tom, Just out of curiosity, how many systems can you safely run on one UPS? Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Journaling, gotta love it
How long is a rope? I have 4 boxes on one ups. 1200 watt supply Just the boxes. No monitors or anything else. I'm probably pushing my luck, though. We have many small outages this time of year and I haven't run out of volts yet. Lee On Wednesday 29 May 2002 10:17 am, daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Wed, 29 May 2002, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 29 May 2002 03:22 am, Michael Adams wrote: Had a power cut last night. I had bluefish, kwrite, Mozilla, and a terminal all open. The power went came back up for two seconds then died again. I switched the switch at the wall and chewed my nails until the power came back up an hour later. Mandrake started as if i had asked for a restart. No apps, but no corruption. Thankyou god/s. Which file system? Anyhow, you really should have your system on an UPS if power outages are any more than a very rare occurrence. An UPS will also keep power steady and protect your hardware from spikes and brownouts. While the FS can escape damage, your hardware sometimes can't. Hi Tom, Just out of curiosity, how many systems can you safely run on one UPS? Mark -- Registered Linux user #223705 The best indication that there is intelligent life elsewhere is that they haven't contacted us. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance - Derek Bok Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Journaling, gotta love it
Just to provide another datapoint: I run three (older) boxes on one UPS rated at 300 VA, 180 Watts. The power supplies total 750 watts (IINM (If I'm Not Mistaken) -- 2 200s and 1 350)). 2 cpus are ~300 MHz, 3rd is 700 MHz, all AMD. I also am looking for protection from short outages (2-60 seconds). UPS is Conexant. Includes an indicator light to show if the UPS is overloaded -- no indication so far. One day I will try a fourth system. BTW, if you live near a Staples, Staples had (and might still have) a $40 rebate running on two different brand 500 VA UPSs (Conexant and APC, IIRC), brought the price down to $10. Nothing fancy like a serial output to shut down your computer, but will do quite well if you deal mainly with short outages like I do. Randy Kramer Lee wrote: I have 4 boxes on one ups. 1200 watt supply Just the boxes. No monitors or anything else. I'm probably pushing my luck, though. We have many small outages this time of year and I haven't run out of volts yet. On Wednesday 29 May 2002 10:17 am, daRcmaTTeR wrote: Just out of curiosity, how many systems can you safely run on one UPS? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Journaling, gotta love it
On Wednesday 29 May 2002 10:51 am, you wrote: How long is a rope? snip roflmao,,, I was gonna offer a 35Kw standby gen as my secondary UPS, and I am sure an entire automobile dealership and a cargo airline can stay up for a reallly long time Hi Tom, Just out of curiosity, how many systems can you safely run on one UPS? Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Journaling, gotta love it
On Wednesday 29 May 2002 09:17 am, daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Wed, 29 May 2002, Tom Brinkman wrote: Which file system? Anyhow, you really should have your system on an UPS if power outages are any more than a very rare occurrence. An UPS will also keep power steady and protect your hardware from spikes and brownouts. While the FS can escape damage, your hardware sometimes can't. Just out of curiosity, how many systems can you safely run on one UPS? Mark I've got a Tbird oc'd to 1.55 gig, Cdrom, CD-RW, 2 HDD's, 17 monitor, and a Altec Lansing subwoofer sound system IOW's a real power hog. I've got an old APC BackUPS 500 that'll keep it all runnin for ~15 minutes when the power goes south. The batteries are original, and I've not needed to replace 'em, or seen a drop in their performance. Just as important, maybe more so tho, an UPS feeds clean power to the system, no spikes or drops. Very important for sensitive electronics reliability and performance. It's only a 500VA UPS, but plenty for a single desk top system. Price was $123 some 5 years ago. They make other UPS systems that can handle multiple systems, even up to multiple rack servers. 'Course they cost more $$'s. APC is the preferred brand, but there's other good ones. They're heavy, so buyin one locally (I got mine at Wall*Mart) is probly a better option than buyin online and payin lot'sa shipping. FWIW, since I asked, after 3 experiences with XFS, I'm back to good 'ol tried'n true ReiserFS for all my Linux partitions. Sort'a way OT, I got a 350W inverter for $47 from Wally World a few months ago. It'll run a 19 TV for 5 to 6 hours off the battery in my Chevy ... and then the truck still starts like nothin was drainin it. It's magic!! So after I have to shut down the computer when the power goes out at least I can still watch TV by candle light ;) -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Journaling, gotta love it
On Wed, 29 May 2002, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 29 May 2002 09:17 am, daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Wed, 29 May 2002, Tom Brinkman wrote: Which file system? Anyhow, you really should have your system on an UPS if power outages are any more than a very rare occurrence. An UPS will also keep power steady and protect your hardware from spikes and brownouts. While the FS can escape damage, your hardware sometimes can't. Just out of curiosity, how many systems can you safely run on one UPS? Mark I've got a Tbird oc'd to 1.55 gig, Cdrom, CD-RW, 2 HDD's, 17 monitor, and a Altec Lansing subwoofer sound system IOW's a real power hog. I've got an old APC BackUPS 500 that'll keep it all runnin for ~15 minutes when the power goes south. The batteries are original, and I've not needed to replace 'em, or seen a drop in their performance. Just as important, maybe more so tho, an UPS feeds clean power to the system, no spikes or drops. Very important for sensitive electronics reliability and performance. It's only a 500VA UPS, but plenty for a single desk top system. Price was $123 some 5 years ago. They make other UPS systems that can handle multiple systems, even up to multiple rack servers. 'Course they cost more $$'s. APC is the preferred brand, but there's other good ones. They're heavy, so buyin one locally (I got mine at Wall*Mart) is probly a better option than buyin online and payin lot'sa shipping. FWIW, since I asked, after 3 experiences with XFS, I'm back to good 'ol tried'n true ReiserFS for all my Linux partitions. Sort'a way OT, I got a 350W inverter for $47 from Wally World a few months ago. It'll run a 19 TV for 5 to 6 hours off the battery in my Chevy ... and then the truck still starts like nothin was drainin it. It's magic!! So after I have to shut down the computer when the power goes out at least I can still watch TV by candle light ;) Ok then...thanks for the input. that pretty much settles it then. at least for now I'll setup a medium sized UPS to attach the main server and my desktop workstation to to guard against sudden outages brought on by the daily T-storms that we've been getting in Pennsylvania these last few weeks. It's been great though and I'm not complaining. I keep backups of data, and would gladly sacrifice an FS for a farmers field full of corn. How about it Randy K.? you guys down your way getting any of these storms or are they petered out till then get to that end of the state? Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Journaling, gotta love it
daRcmaTTeR wrote: How about it Randy K.? you guys down your way getting any of these storms or are they petered out till then get to that end of the state? We had a good downpour a few nights ago, and some rain, but not all that much, and not enough to end the drought concern. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Journaling, gotta love it
On Wed, 29 May 2002, et wrote: On Wednesday 29 May 2002 10:51 am, you wrote: How long is a rope? snip roflmao,,, I was gonna offer a 35Kw standby gen as my secondary UPS, and I am sure an entire automobile dealership and a cargo airline can stay up for a reallly long time Ed! where the heck ya been man! seems like it's been forever since I've seen you post here. so, what are you saying grin? Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Journaling, gotta love it
On Wed, 29 May 2002, Randy Kramer wrote: Just to provide another datapoint: I run three (older) boxes on one UPS rated at 300 VA, 180 Watts. The power supplies total 750 watts (IINM (If I'm Not Mistaken) -- 2 200s and 1 350)). 2 cpus are ~300 MHz, 3rd is 700 MHz, all AMD. I also am looking for protection from short outages (2-60 seconds). UPS is Conexant. Includes an indicator light to show if the UPS is overloaded -- no indication so far. One day I will try a fourth system. BTW, if you live near a Staples, Staples had (and might still have) a $40 rebate running on two different brand 500 VA UPSs (Conexant and APC, IIRC), brought the price down to $10. Nothing fancy like a serial output to shut down your computer, but will do quite well if you deal mainly with short outages like I do. Randy Kramer actually Randy, there is not only a Staples near where I live, but also an Office Max and another tech store that I can't remember the name of at the moment. all of which I'm forbidden to enter under pain of immasculation. :) Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
