Re: [newbie] PHP-Nuke..... check this out!

2003-01-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 19 Jan 2003 6:37 pm, Charlie wrote:
 On Sunday 19 January 2003 11:11 am, Anthony Abby wrote:
  Just in case no one had happen to notice this
  http://phpnuke.org/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=5325mode=orde
 r= 0thold=0
 
  Am I wrong here?  Didn't Mandrake support Burzi from the beginning of
  his project?

 You aren't wrong. Mandrake supported a lot of projects that will (possibly)
 run for the hills since the bankruptcy protection application.

 It's all about who writes (can write) the checks. Show me the money in
 other words.

 I can't really blame him or anyone else with a project under development.

 Developers have to eat too.

I can.  Not for moving, but for despicable slights on Mandrake when they have 
supported him.

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Re: [newbie] PHP-Nuke..... check this out!

2003-01-19 Thread Sascha Noyes
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On Sunday 19 January 2003 01:37 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Sunday 19 Jan 2003 6:37 pm, Charlie wrote:
  On Sunday 19 January 2003 11:11 am, Anthony Abby wrote:
   Just in case no one had happen to notice this
   http://phpnuke.org/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=5325mode=or
  de r= 0thold=0
  
   Am I wrong here?  Didn't Mandrake support Burzi from the beginning of
   his project?
 
  You aren't wrong. Mandrake supported a lot of projects that will
  (possibly) run for the hills since the bankruptcy protection application.
 
  It's all about who writes (can write) the checks. Show me the money
  in other words.
 
  I can't really blame him or anyone else with a project under development.
 
  Developers have to eat too.

 I can.  Not for moving, but for despicable slights on Mandrake when they
 have supported him.

 Anne

I also can, as he is not being paid by RedHat.

Sascha

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Re: [newbie] PHP-Nuke..... check this out!

2003-01-19 Thread Charlie
On Sunday 19 January 2003 11:37 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
snip
  I can't really blame him or anyone else with a project under development.
 
  Developers have to eat too.

 I can.  Not for moving, but for despicable slights on Mandrake when they
 have supported him.

 Anne

Hi Anne;

Understandable and agreed but I don't think I was clear. What I should have 
posted was; 

I understand why a developer with an open project would abandon ship if 
he/she/they were getting any sort of support from a distribution vendor. 
Sorry for not being clear on that point previously.

His comments about Mandrake however were completely out of line. I agree with 
that statement completely. 

As for what level and kind of support was in place, I have no idea; but I 
don't really think Mandrake needs fair weather friends that would be 
inclined to crap on the distribution or company just for a sponsorship deal 
of some sort from a competitor.

Do you? I've never liked the colour of that hat anyway.

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Re: [newbie] PHP-Nuke..... check this out!

2003-01-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 19 Jan 2003 7:58 pm, Charlie wrote:
 On Sunday 19 January 2003 11:37 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 snip

   I can't really blame him or anyone else with a project under
   development.
  
   Developers have to eat too.
 
  I can.  Not for moving, but for despicable slights on Mandrake when they
  have supported him.
 
  Anne

 Hi Anne;

 Understandable and agreed but I don't think I was clear. What I should have
 posted was;

 I understand why a developer with an open project would abandon ship if
 he/she/they were getting any sort of support from a distribution vendor.
 Sorry for not being clear on that point previously.

 His comments about Mandrake however were completely out of line. I agree
 with that statement completely.

 As for what level and kind of support was in place, I have no idea; but I
 don't really think Mandrake needs fair weather friends that would be
 inclined to crap on the distribution or company just for a sponsorship deal
 of some sort from a competitor.

 Do you? I've never liked the colour of that hat anyway.

OK - seems we are pretty much in agreement :)

Anne
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Re: [newbie] PHP-Nuke..... check this out!

2003-01-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 05:37, Anne Wilson wrote:

  Developers have to eat too.
 
 I can.  Not for moving, but for despicable slights on Mandrake when they have 
 supported him.
 
 Anne

Look at it this way - if your job is on the line because you drive a
Ford and the Ford keeps choking and puking, and then you find out that
Ford might be out of business soon, are you going to continue to drive
the Ford, or are you going to buy a Honda that you KNOW is more reliable
instead?

Overall, sure, it's nice to be DEDICATED to a particular distribution of
linux, but c'mon - the guys working on linux overall - don't slight him
for his preference.

I have MY preferences - and strong opinions to back my preferences up -
but I'm not going to slight anyone for using say, Suse or
Debian...everyone has their own cuppa tea...so it's useless for anyone
to digress into slamming anyone...

Developers do quite a bit of work - heaps of work in fact - and they
deserve stability - it's a pain to write code on a machine that isn't
performing to your specifications or needs...

At least the guy didn't say he's not going to write code for PHP
excluding Mandrake, did he? Nah...so that's a good thing!

Peace! (And I drive a Honda - and I was born in Detroit - so as far as
loyalty to a product goes, I've just slighted Ford, Chevy/GM and
Chrysler, didn't I?)

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Re: [newbie] PHP-Nuke..... check this out!

2003-01-19 Thread Todd Slater
On 20 Jan 2003 17:34:37 +1100
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 
 Peace! (And I drive a Honda - and I was born in Detroit - so as far as
 loyalty to a product goes, I've just slighted Ford, Chevy/GM and
 Chrysler, didn't I?)

Do they have roads in Australia?

(I used to live in Mexico and when I came back to the US I taught
hight school Spanish; that's one of the questions my students asked me :))

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[newbie] PHP-Nuke..... check this out!

2003-01-19 Thread Anthony Abby
Just in case no one had happen to notice this
http://phpnuke.org/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=5325mode=order=0thold=0

Am I wrong here?  Didn't Mandrake support Burzi from the beginning of
his project?


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Re: [newbie] PHP-Nuke..... check this out!

2003-01-19 Thread Anthony Abby
On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 13:37, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Sunday 19 Jan 2003 6:37 pm, Charlie wrote:
  On Sunday 19 January 2003 11:11 am, Anthony Abby wrote:
   Just in case no one had happen to notice this
   http://phpnuke.org/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=5325mode=orde
  r= 0thold=0
  
   Am I wrong here?  Didn't Mandrake support Burzi from the beginning of
   his project?
 
  You aren't wrong. Mandrake supported a lot of projects that will (possibly)
  run for the hills since the bankruptcy protection application.
 
  It's all about who writes (can write) the checks. Show me the money in
  other words.
 
  I can't really blame him or anyone else with a project under development.
 
  Developers have to eat too.
 
 I can.  Not for moving, but for despicable slights on Mandrake when they have 
 supported him.

Yes he did make some unsupported claims about Redhat/Mandrake, which is
pretty weird in and of itself.  But I wasn't aware he was a paid
employee of Mandrake.  Can anyone substantiate that?  Everything I'd
read about PHP-Nuke prior to adopting it as the basis for my website a
few weeks ago, simply stated Mandrake provided un-named support since
the inception of the project.  Can anyone shed some light on exactly
what support Mandrake provided him?  I'd certainly like to know more.




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Re: [newbie] PHP-Nuke..... check this out!

2003-01-19 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 17:43, Todd Slater wrote:
 On 20 Jan 2003 17:34:37 +1100
 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
  
  Peace! (And I drive a Honda - and I was born in Detroit - so as far as
  loyalty to a product goes, I've just slighted Ford, Chevy/GM and
  Chrysler, didn't I?)
 
 Do they have roads in Australia?
 
 (I used to live in Mexico and when I came back to the US I taught
 hight school Spanish; that's one of the questions my students asked me :))
 
 Todd
 

(g)

Yeah we have roads, but they're backwards mate. You drive down north,
and up south...none of the roads are paved, we all have 'roos and
wombats in our backyards, we all wear akubras and shorts that are two
sizes too small, jackboots and blue singlets, we eat koalas for brekkie
and sleep in the open bush at night.

(Oh, by the way, Chevy's in Australia are not Chevy's - or GM's - it's
HOLDEN - so the age old Ford vs Chevy competition is VERY alive here -
and very vehement as well - even moreso than back home in the US)

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