Re: [newbie] Printing to print server not working - SOLVED

2004-02-06 Thread Steve Kaufman






Thanks all who replied.

The solution was to use cups and define the printer as an LPR:\\192.168.x.x\lp and use the use the HP laserjetIIIP generic driver.

Then in case there are any other real newbies out there I also had a deskjet 720 installed on myparallel port which was the default. In order to make the laserjet the defaultI entered lp -d HP (HP = the name I gave the lasrejet).

One more small problem solved.

You people all rave about LINUX and put down the WINDOxx (I won't even say the name) BUT things sure are a whole lot easier in DOZE. Believe me I hate microsoft and the doze family but sure like the ease of use.

There is a real high learning curve.

But I'll stick with it as long as I have you people to help me.

Steve
Linux user number 344404
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Date: 02/05/04 09:07:24
To: newbie linux-mandrake
Subject: [mandrake] Re: [newbie] Printing to print server not working

On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 12:01, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 February 2004 10:21 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:
  I am trying to print to my d-link Router/printserver and can't see to get
  it to work.
 
  I am running MD9.2 and using a D-Ling DI-713P the P means that it is a
  router with a printer port. Under windows I just set up a port and put in
  the router base address and print to it. No problem.
 
  I tried the CUPS setup and it goes all the way through. I put in that it
  was an LPR printer and gave it the ip address but don't have a quename to
  give it. I tried MCC add a printer but it can't see the printer so it won't
  let me go farther. Also read a lot of man pages about lpr and print and
  other stuff like that. Tried those things to no avail.
 
  If anyone can give me a hint on what to do I would appreciate it. Have done
  the google think and don't seem to find anything. The d-link sit was not
  much help either although I did fine one thing where it said to put in the
  ipaddress and lp so I'm not that lp was the que name ot what. I have
  switched back to my doze system so I can't test that right now. Will
  tomorrow so I thought I would just drop this out to you helpfull people and
  see what other ideas people have.

 You were right, lp is the queue name.I had an old 704P and had it setup and
 printing with an HP Deskjet printer.Since then, I have changed printers and
 routers so I don't use it anymore.Concept is the same though, LPR printer,
 IP address of the router and lp for queue name should work, if it doesn't
 then I can try to help you troubleshoot it.

 BTW, based on my experience, using the router as a print server is only useful
 under windows.Under windows, the computer that the printer is connected to
 slows down when others are printing to it (Possibly higher resolutions
 supported under windows or postscript drivers rather than pcl drivers).
 Using a Linux machine for the print server, I never had that problem with a
 shared printer.

I have a netgear print server attached to a router and this link tells
how to set it up.
http://www.aplawrence.com/Linux/netgearcups.html

Worked like a dream first time - might help tho hardware differs.

david














Re: [newbie] Printing to print server not working

2004-02-05 Thread Lanman
On 2/4/2004 at 10:21 PM Steve Kaufman wrote:

I am trying to print to my d-link Router/printserver and
can't see to get
it
to work.

I am running MD9.2 and using a D-Ling DI-713P the P means
that it is a
router with a printer port. Under windows I just set up a
port and put in
the router base address and print to it. No problem. 

I tried the CUPS setup and it goes all the way through. I
put in that it
was
an LPR printer and gave it the ip address but don't have a
quename to give
it. I tried MCC add a printer but it can't see the printer
so it won't let
me go farther. Also read a lot of man pages about lpr and
print and other
stuff like that. Tried those things to no avail.

If anyone can give me a hint on what to do I would
appreciate it. Have done
the google think and don't seem to find anything. The
d-link sit was not
much help either although I did fine one thing where it
said to put in the
ip  address and lp so I'm not that lp was the que name ot
what. I have
switched back to my doze system so I can't test that right
now. Will
tomorrow so I thought I would just drop this out to you
helpfull people and
see what other ideas people have. 

By the way the printer I have attached to it is a HP
Laserjet IIIP.

TIA
   

Steve
Linux user number 344404

*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

Steve; I had a look at the unit on D-LINK's web-site and it
doesn't seem to support any protocols other than Windows
printing, that means SMB is your friend. The problem is
that while it is accepting SMB connections, the print
server is NOT broadcasting it's existance. Your best bet
with this unit is to try the following;

1) Using the Windows software for the router, or the
web-based interface, log into the router and configure it
for your network. By the sounds of things that's already
been done since you're using the router in Windows for
printing.

2) Once you're logged into the router, go to each panel or
page of the Interface where there is a space to enter a
host name for the unit, and put in the following name
exactly as I have it here in brackets - ( dlink_printer ) -
don't include the brackets.

3) Make sure that the router has a static IP address - ie;
192.168.0.1 and a subnet that matches your network setup
- ie; 255.255.255.0

4) Boot your PC into Mandrake, and change to the root user.

5) In the /etc folder, find the file called hosts, and
add the following line to the file - 192.168.0.1
dlink_printer , making sure that you leave a space between
the IP address and the name of the router. Save and close
the file.

6) In Mandrake Control Center, go to the Hardware section,
then go to printers. Try setting up the printer using
Windows SMB and it should give you a line to put in
information about the location of the printer like this -
smb:// - Note that you may only see this type of entry if
you are in expert or advanced mode. When you get this
option, enter the name dlink_printer without the quotes,
and make sure that it's exactly the way you typed it in the
/etc/hosts file. 

7) At the next section, you should be asked about the
printer drivers for your printer so select the drivers for
your HP printer. 

8) Do a test page.

9) If it doesn't work, it's because Mandrake still can't
see the router/printer-server, and chances are that it
never will.

There's no guarantee that it will work, but it's something
you might try though.

I had the exact same problem with another brand of All in
One router, but I checked it out before buying to make
sure it supported LPD or CUPS. Once I found out what
was needed, it took 3 minutes to set up on each of 5
Mandrake Systems.

Good luck.

Lanman 
  



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Re: [newbie] Printing to print server not working

2004-02-05 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 10:21 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:
 I am trying to print to my d-link Router/printserver and can't see to get
 it to work.

 I am running MD9.2 and using a D-Ling DI-713P the P means that it is a
 router with a printer port. Under windows I just set up a port and put in
 the router base address and print to it. No problem.

 I tried the CUPS setup and it goes all the way through. I put in that it
 was an LPR printer and gave it the ip address but don't have a quename to
 give it. I tried MCC add a printer but it can't see the printer so it won't
 let me go farther. Also read a lot of man pages about lpr and print and
 other stuff like that. Tried those things to no avail.

 If anyone can give me a hint on what to do I would appreciate it. Have done
 the google think and don't seem to find anything. The d-link sit was not
 much help either although I did fine one thing where it said to put in the
 ip  address and lp so I'm not that lp was the que name ot what. I have
 switched back to my doze system so I can't test that right now. Will
 tomorrow so I thought I would just drop this out to you helpfull people and
 see what other ideas people have.

You were right, lp is the queue name.  I had an old 704P and had it setup and 
printing with an HP Deskjet printer.  Since then, I have changed printers and 
routers so I don't use it anymore.  Concept is the same though, LPR printer, 
IP address of the router and lp for queue name should work, if it doesn't 
then I can try to help you troubleshoot it.

BTW, based on my experience, using the router as a print server is only useful 
under windows.  Under windows, the computer that the printer is connected to 
slows down when others are printing to it (Possibly higher resolutions 
supported under windows or postscript drivers rather than pcl drivers).  
Using a Linux machine for the print server, I never had that problem with a 
shared printer.

-- 
Bryan Phinney
Software Test Engineer


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Re: [newbie] Printing to print server not working

2004-02-05 Thread David Little
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 12:01, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 February 2004 10:21 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:
  I am trying to print to my d-link Router/printserver and can't see to get
  it to work.
 
  I am running MD9.2 and using a D-Ling DI-713P the P means that it is a
  router with a printer port. Under windows I just set up a port and put in
  the router base address and print to it. No problem.
 
  I tried the CUPS setup and it goes all the way through. I put in that it
  was an LPR printer and gave it the ip address but don't have a quename to
  give it. I tried MCC add a printer but it can't see the printer so it won't
  let me go farther. Also read a lot of man pages about lpr and print and
  other stuff like that. Tried those things to no avail.
 
  If anyone can give me a hint on what to do I would appreciate it. Have done
  the google think and don't seem to find anything. The d-link sit was not
  much help either although I did fine one thing where it said to put in the
  ip  address and lp so I'm not that lp was the que name ot what. I have
  switched back to my doze system so I can't test that right now. Will
  tomorrow so I thought I would just drop this out to you helpfull people and
  see what other ideas people have.
 
 You were right, lp is the queue name.  I had an old 704P and had it setup and 
 printing with an HP Deskjet printer.  Since then, I have changed printers and 
 routers so I don't use it anymore.  Concept is the same though, LPR printer, 
 IP address of the router and lp for queue name should work, if it doesn't 
 then I can try to help you troubleshoot it.
 
 BTW, based on my experience, using the router as a print server is only useful 
 under windows.  Under windows, the computer that the printer is connected to 
 slows down when others are printing to it (Possibly higher resolutions 
 supported under windows or postscript drivers rather than pcl drivers).  
 Using a Linux machine for the print server, I never had that problem with a 
 shared printer.

I have a netgear print server attached to a router and this link tells
how to set it up.
http://www.aplawrence.com/Linux/netgearcups.html

Worked like a dream first time - might help tho hardware differs.

david



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[newbie] Printing to print server not working

2004-02-04 Thread Steve Kaufman
I am trying to print to my d-link Router/printserver and can't see to get it
to work.

I am running MD9.2 and using a D-Ling DI-713P the P means that it is a
router with a printer port. Under windows I just set up a port and put in
the router base address and print to it. No problem. 

I tried the CUPS setup and it goes all the way through. I put in that it was
an LPR printer and gave it the ip address but don't have a quename to give
it. I tried MCC add a printer but it can't see the printer so it won't let
me go farther. Also read a lot of man pages about lpr and print and other
stuff like that. Tried those things to no avail.

If anyone can give me a hint on what to do I would appreciate it. Have done
the google think and don't seem to find anything. The d-link sit was not
much help either although I did fine one thing where it said to put in the
ip  address and lp so I'm not that lp was the que name ot what. I have
switched back to my doze system so I can't test that right now. Will
tomorrow so I thought I would just drop this out to you helpfull people and
see what other ideas people have. 

By the way the printer I have attached to it is a HP Laserjet IIIP.

TIA
   

Steve
Linux user number 344404


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