Re: [newbie] Problems shutting-down in M-L 9.0
On Tuesday 29 Oct 2002 4:44 am, Miark wrote: I figured out tonight that if I, using drakxservices, shutdown autofs, then I can halt or reboot without a problem. I expect you'll experience the same thing, Dave. So what is autofs and what happens if I leave it off permanently? Miark autofs is a method of automatically mounting file systems such as CDs or NFS shares whenever they become available. It is like an alternative to supermount. If you have not started autofs intentionally, then you almost certainly do not want it running. You should stop it starting at boot. http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs.html derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems shutting-down in M-L 9.0 - FIXED
Thanks Derek. I killed autofs and stopped it from running automatically at boot. My shutdown problems have now been eliminated. Great! Miark On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:22:39 + Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 29 Oct 2002 4:44 am, Miark wrote: I figured out tonight that if I, using drakxservices, shutdown autofs, then I can halt or reboot without a problem. I expect you'll experience the same thing, Dave. So what is autofs and what happens if I leave it off permanently? Miark autofs is a method of automatically mounting file systems such as CDs or NFS shares whenever they become available. It is like an alternative to supermount. If you have not started autofs intentionally, then you almost certainly do not want it running. You should stop it starting at boot. http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs.html derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Problems shutting-down in M-L 9.0
Hi all. Well, just installed M-L 9.0 and it certainly looks pretty nice. Bit over the top with all the GUI stuff on logon and shutdown, but it certainly gives you heaps more info about what is going on than Windoze ever has... The problem of the minute is, when I go to shutdown the PC (from inside and outside of KDE, it starts to do the shutdown then gets to the line: Unmounting NFS filesystems: Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Program not registered Next two lines have this: umount2: Device or resource busy umount: /net: device is busy Tried switching sessions (Ctrl+Alt+F1, F2 etc.) but it won't let me enter anything from the letter keysstrange! From here, all I seem to be able to do is power-down. Tried running TOP but when it asks for a number for a process to kill, it's not accepting what I put in. shutdown -h now is not working either.sigh. TIA, DaveA. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Problems shutting-down in M-L 9.0
Hi ET, This box resides on a Windoze network (although eventually it would be nice to get rid of that!) with an IPCop box as the firewall, and whilst it would be cool to be able to access the data on the Windoze boxes, it's not crucial as I'm mainly using this box as a learning exercise. Given that it's locked-up at this error message, how do I now go about shutting-down cleanly? And yeah, how do I disable NFS? TIA, DaveA. -Original Message- From: ET [mailto:etharp;earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, 28 October 2002 8:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems shutting-down in M-L 9.0 dave, this is from a hard nfs mount. do you need nfs? you can kill the service and set it to not start at boot, if you don't need it, (like if you only have one *nix box on the network). On Monday 28 October 2002 06:07 am, DaveA wrote: Hi all. Well, just installed M-L 9.0 and it certainly looks pretty nice. Bit over the top with all the GUI stuff on logon and shutdown, but it certainly gives you heaps more info about what is going on than Windoze ever has... The problem of the minute is, when I go to shutdown the PC (from inside and outside of KDE, it starts to do the shutdown then gets to the line: Unmounting NFS filesystems: Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Program not registered Next two lines have this: umount2: Device or resource busy umount: /net: device is busy Tried switching sessions (Ctrl+Alt+F1, F2 etc.) but it won't let me enter anything from the letter keysstrange! From here, all I seem to be able to do is power-down. Tried running TOP but when it asks for a number for a process to kill, it's not accepting what I put in. shutdown -h now is not working either.sigh. TIA, DaveA. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems shutting-down in M-L 9.0
the automount stuff involves /misc and /net, i don't really understand it myself but have a look in /etc/auto.* and see if there are any clues there bascule On Monday 28 Oct 2002 11:07 am, DaveA wrote: The problem of the minute is, when I go to shutdown the PC (from inside and outside of KDE, it starts to do the shutdown then gets to the line: Unmounting NFS filesystems: Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Program not registered Next two lines have this: umount2: Device or resource busy umount: /net: device is busy -- 'I'll tell you this!' shouted Rincewind. 'I'd rather trust me than history! Oh, shit, did I just say that?' (Interesting Times) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems shutting-down in M-L 9.0
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:01:15 +0930 DaveA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ET, This box resides on a Windoze network (although eventually it would be nice to get rid of that!) with an IPCop box as the firewall, and whilst it would be cool to be able to access the data on the Windoze boxes, it's not crucial as I'm mainly using this box as a learning exercise. Given that it's locked-up at this error message, how do I now go about shutting-down cleanly? And yeah, how do I disable NFS? TIA, DaveA. snip file:/usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/Starter.html/troubleshooting-system-freeze.html : Abstract When stuck in a freeze, your computer will not respond to commands anymore and input devices like keyboard and mouse seem to be blocked. This is a worst case scenario and could mean that you have a very severe error in either your configuration, your software or your hardware. Here we will show you to deal with this annoying situation. In the case of a system freeze, your top priority should be trying to shutdown your system properly. Let's assume you are under X, if so, try these steps consecutively: Try to kill the X server by pressing the Alt-Ctrl-Backspace keys. Try to switch to another console by pressing the Alt-Ctrl-Fn keys (where n is the console number, from 1 to 6). If you succeed, login as root and issue the command: kill -15 $(pidof X) or the command kill -9 $(pidof X), if the first command shows no effect. (Check with top to see if X is still running). If you are part of a local network, try to use ssh to connect into your machine from another box. It is advisable to ssh into the remote machine as an unprivileged user and then use the su command to become root. If the system does not respond to any of these steps, you have to go through the SysRq (System Request) sequence. The SysRq sequence involves pressing three keys at once, the left Alt key, the SysRq key (labeled PrintScreen on older keyboards) and a letter key. Alt-SysRq-R puts the keyboard in raw mode. Now try pressing Alt-Ctrl-Backspace again to kill X. If that does not work, carry on. Alt-SysRq-S attempts to write all unsaved data to disk (sync the disk). Alt-SysRq-E sends a termination signal to all processes, except for init. Alt-SysRq-I sends a kill signal to all processes, except for init. Alt-SysRq-U attempts to re-mount all mounted filesystems read-only. This removes the dirty flag and will avoid a file system check upon reboot. Alt-SysRq-B reboots the system. You might just as well press the reset button on your machine. Note Remember that this is a sequence, i.e. you have to press one combination after the other in the right order: Raw, Sync, tErm, kIll, Umount, reBoot[16]. Read the kernel documentation for more information on this feature. If none of the above helps, cross fingers and press the reset switch on your machine. If you are lucky, GNU/Linux will just run a disk check upon reboot. By all means, try to find out what causes these lockups because they can do severe damage to the file system. You might also want to consider using ext3 or ReiserFS, journaling file systems included in Mandrake Linux, which handle such failures more gracefully. However, replacing ext2FS with ext3 or ReiserFS requires reformatting your partitions. [16] Mnemonic phrase: Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring end_quote Although your system hangs during shutdown I hope this freeze info is helpfull. Btw.: I think these Mandrake Linux manuals can be browsed from CD under Windows (just run the first CD). HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems shutting-down in M-L 9.0
I figured out tonight that if I, using drakxservices, shutdown autofs, then I can halt or reboot without a problem. I expect you'll experience the same thing, Dave. So what is autofs and what happens if I leave it off permanently? Miark On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:37:05 +0930 DaveA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. Well, just installed M-L 9.0 and it certainly looks pretty nice. Bit over the top with all the GUI stuff on logon and shutdown, but it certainly gives you heaps more info about what is going on than Windoze ever has... The problem of the minute is, when I go to shutdown the PC (from inside and outside of KDE, it starts to do the shutdown then gets to the line: Unmounting NFS filesystems: Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Program not registered Next two lines have this: umount2: Device or resource busy umount: /net: device is busy Tried switching sessions (Ctrl+Alt+F1, F2 etc.) but it won't let me enter anything from the letter keysstrange! From here, all I seem to be able to do is power-down. Tried running TOP but when it asks for a number for a process to kill, it's not accepting what I put in. shutdown -h now is not working either.sigh. TIA, DaveA. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Problems shutting-down
Hi all. Well, just installed M-L 9.0 and it certainly looks pretty nice. Bit over the top with all the GUI stuff on logon and shutdown, but it certainly gives you heaps more info about what is going on than Windoze ever has... The problem of the minute is, when I go to shutdown from within KDE, it starts to do the shutdown then gets to the line: Unmounting NFS filesystems: Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Program not registered Next two lines have this: umount2: Device or resource busy umount: /net: device is busy Tried switching sessions (Ctrl+Alt+F1, F2 etc.) but it won't net me enter anything from the letter keysstrange! From here, all I seem to be able to do is power-down. Tried running TOP but when it asks for a number for a process to kill, it's not accepting what I put in. shutdown -h now is not working either.sigh. TIA, DaveA. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems shutting down
On Tuesday 13 February 2001 15:51, you wrote: Every time I try to shutdown the OS, I have a problem. When I am at the login screen, and click Shutdown, I get the menu asking if I want to shutdown, restart, etc...but I cannot choose anything on this menu with my mouse or my keyboard. I cannot choose OK or Cancel either, therfore I cannot shut the OS down properly. Anyone have any ideas as to that is causing this? Thanks! Devin Type: shutdown -h now instead of the h you can type a number giving the minutes before definite shutdown - be su root tho!- Luck, Harm Bathoorn
Re: [newbie] Problems shutting down
On Tuesday 13 February 2001 15:51, you wrote: Every time I try to shutdown the OS, I have a problem. When I am at the login screen, and click Shutdown, I get the menu asking if I want to shutdown, restart, etc...but I cannot choose anything on this menu with my mouse or my keyboard. I cannot choose OK or Cancel either, therfore I cannot shut the OS down properly. Anyone have any ideas as to that is causing this? Thanks! Devin Sorry about my first message, you meant graphical logout. Did you set shutdown permissions for all users or root only? Luck, Harm Bathoorn
Re: [newbie] Problems shutting down
Tim Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure why that's happening, but you can get around that by opening up a prompt as root and type shutdown -r now. That will reboot the machine. You can do a shutdown --help for all the other parameters if you'd like. Does that problem happen ALL the time? I've never heard of that happening but the shutdown -r now command should help you out in the mean time. tdh == If it's got to be done as root, he probably wants "shutdown -h now" rather than rebooting. Mike -- "Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there." --Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re: [newbie] Problems shutting down
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every time I try to shutdown the OS, I have a problem. When I am at the login screen, and click Shutdown, I get the menu asking if I want to shutdown, restart, etc...but I cannot choose anything on this menu with my mouse or my keyboard. I cannot choose OK or Cancel either, therfore I cannot shut the OS down properly. Anyone have any ideas as to that is causing this? Thanks! Devin Check to make sure users have permission to shutdown. Only root might have that privilege. Mike -- "Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there." --Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re: [newbie] Problems shutting down
"H.J.Bathoorn" wrote: Type: shutdown -h now instead of the h you can type a number giving the minutes before definite shutdown - be su root tho!- Luck, Harm Bathoorn Umm, I don't have to su here. It just asks me for my users password then works fine... -- /\ DarkLord \/
