Re: [newbie] Recording Audio from Cassettes
On Saturday 07 Jun 2003 11:48 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: At 06:03 PM 6/7/2003 +0100, you wrote: snip The snag to ogg is that no hardware players exist for it yet. We are promised one sometime this year. I can't remember which manufacturer it was, but I have a printout of an article somewhere, in which it said that the manufacturer had teamed up with ahead.de, the Nero people, for software support. Try googling on that if you're interested. I fancied an mp3 player, but I'm waiting until the ogg player comes out. Anne There is ONE Ogg player. It sucks Is proprietary. Read it in Maximum PC about 3 months back when I was on morphine...so my timeline may be pooched. Forgive me. :( I do remember that it sucks ... they gave it a 5 or 6 out of 10. Bleahplus it had issues of some sort I don't remember what else. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Hadn't heard that - it obviously hadn't hit the english press. Once again, though, we are up against commercial interests that will try to stifle ogg players, but I would think that players that can manage ogg and mp3 are inevitable, and, hopefully, not far away. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recording Audio from Cassettes
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 02:42, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 07 Jun 2003 11:48 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: At 06:03 PM 6/7/2003 +0100, you wrote: snip The snag to ogg is that no hardware players exist for it yet. We are promised one sometime this year. I can't remember which manufacturer it was, but I have a printout of an article somewhere, in which it said that the manufacturer had teamed up with ahead.de, the Nero people, for software support. Try googling on that if you're interested. I fancied an mp3 player, but I'm waiting until the ogg player comes out. Anne There is ONE Ogg player. It sucks Is proprietary. Read it in Maximum PC about 3 months back when I was on morphine...so my timeline may be pooched. Forgive me. :( I do remember that it sucks ... they gave it a 5 or 6 out of 10. Bleahplus it had issues of some sort I don't remember what else. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Hadn't heard that - it obviously hadn't hit the english press. Once again, though, we are up against commercial interests that will try to stifle ogg players, but I would think that players that can manage ogg and mp3 are inevitable, and, hopefully, not far away. Anne Check out this link luv http://www.xiph.org/ it has a lot of stuff on OGG __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recording Audio from Cassettes
On Sunday 08 Jun 2003 8:39 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 02:42, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 07 Jun 2003 11:48 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: At 06:03 PM 6/7/2003 +0100, you wrote: snip The snag to ogg is that no hardware players exist for it yet. We are promised one sometime this year. I can't remember which manufacturer it was, but I have a printout of an article somewhere, in which it said that the manufacturer had teamed up with ahead.de, the Nero people, for software support. Try googling on that if you're interested. I fancied an mp3 player, but I'm waiting until the ogg player comes out. Anne There is ONE Ogg player. It sucks Is proprietary. Read it in Maximum PC about 3 months back when I was on morphine...so my timeline may be pooched. Forgive me. :( I do remember that it sucks ... they gave it a 5 or 6 out of 10. Bleahplus it had issues of some sort I don't remember what else. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Hadn't heard that - it obviously hadn't hit the english press. Once again, though, we are up against commercial interests that will try to stifle ogg players, but I would think that players that can manage ogg and mp3 are inevitable, and, hopefully, not far away. Anne Check out this link luv http://www.xiph.org/ it has a lot of stuff on OGG Ah - I think it was on that site that I originally read about it. All the same, it says Further, many players support Ogg Vorbis; see vorbis.com for a list of all the players we know about. but I didn't find the 'many players' listed. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recording Audio from Cassettes
El vie, 06-06-2003 a las 21:50, Dennis Myers escribió: As the subject implies, I am recording my old cassette tapes to make CDs. Some of them are nearing 22 years old and I don't want to lose them. I am using gramofile since I can't quite get audacity to record to harddrive. Now the question is, what's the best way to do this, do the record as a .wav and then burn as mp3s or record as mp3s and burn CDs as mp3s? I record to .wav, normalize using normalize, and encode as ogg with oggenc. Sounds great. is there a faster way to do the process than just play the tape and record? No. This is not a gramofile limitation, this is a limitation of the analog cassette format. Even pro quality cassette to cassette duplicating machines should be not be run at faster than playback speed if you want the highest quality sound. If you are willing to sacrifice quality, I suppose you could record to .wav at a higher than normal speed (you'll need to find a cassette deck with a high speed dupe function) and later stretch out the .wav's time scale, but methinks that you'll sacrifice a lot of quality to save a little time. -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras http://srcopan.vze.com/ -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras http://srcopan.vze.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recording Audio from Cassettes
On Saturday 07 June 2003 03:35 am, Richard Urwin wrote: On Saturday 07 Jun 2003 4:50 am, Dennis Myers wrote: As the subject implies, I am recording my old cassette tapes to make CDs. Some of them are nearing 22 years old and I don't want to lose them. I am using gramofile since I can't quite get audacity to record to harddrive. Now the question is, what's the best way to do this, do the record as a .wav and then burn as mp3s or record as mp3s and burn CDs as mp3s? I don't find any helpful guidelines as to what gives the best sound quality in the end. recording and burning as .WAV gives you: loss-less recording CDs you can play on any CD player recording as .MP3 gives you: smaller files, so fewer CDs required recording with good quality should be able to match the tape quality. you can only play the CDs on the computer or MP3-aware players. recording as .WAV and burning as .MP3 gives you the worst of both, but you may have more control over the MP3 quality. I would record as .WAV and then burn as an audio CD, one disc per tape, or per tape side. And is there a faster way to do the process than just play the tape and record? no Also be sure you mute system sounds, or they might appear on the recording. Thanks for the advice. This is a new adventure and I am finding that not only are some of my tapes wearing out but old stereo equipment is getting a bit old and cranky too. So this transfer may be just in time. It is going to take a couple of weeks of off and on work. Your advice is appreciated. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recording Audio from Cassettes
recording and burning as .WAV gives you: loss-less recording CDs you can play on any CD player I would record as .WAV and then burn as an audio CD, one disc per tape, or per tape side. Also be sure you mute system sounds, or they might appear on the recording. Reading in another email there was a reference to a recording engineer who was very impressed with the quality of the Ogg audio format. Here's the URL: http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5847717353.html I'll be looking into Ogg myself based on his experience and recommendation. The Other Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recording Audio from Cassettes
On Saturday 07 Jun 2003 5:06 pm, The Other wrote: recording and burning as .WAV gives you: loss-less recording CDs you can play on any CD player I would record as .WAV and then burn as an audio CD, one disc per tape, or per tape side. Also be sure you mute system sounds, or they might appear on the recording. Reading in another email there was a reference to a recording engineer who was very impressed with the quality of the Ogg audio format. Here's the URL: http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5847717353.html I'll be looking into Ogg myself based on his experience and recommendation. The snag to ogg is that no hardware players exist for it yet. We are promised one sometime this year. I can't remember which manufacturer it was, but I have a printout of an article somewhere, in which it said that the manufacturer had teamed up with ahead.de, the Nero people, for software support. Try googling on that if you're interested. I fancied an mp3 player, but I'm waiting until the ogg player comes out. Anne The Other Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recording Audio from Cassettes
On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 09:06, The Other wrote: recording and burning as .WAV gives you: loss-less recording CDs you can play on any CD player I would record as .WAV and then burn as an audio CD, one disc per tape, or per tape side. Also be sure you mute system sounds, or they might appear on the recording. Reading in another email there was a reference to a recording engineer who was very impressed with the quality of the Ogg audio format. Here's the URL: http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5847717353.html I'll be looking into Ogg myself based on his experience and recommendation. The Other __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Now if I could just get a small personal player that can handle Ogg Vorbis then I would be in Hog Heaven -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recording Audio from Cassettes
At 06:03 PM 6/7/2003 +0100, you wrote: snip The snag to ogg is that no hardware players exist for it yet. We are promised one sometime this year. I can't remember which manufacturer it was, but I have a printout of an article somewhere, in which it said that the manufacturer had teamed up with ahead.de, the Nero people, for software support. Try googling on that if you're interested. I fancied an mp3 player, but I'm waiting until the ogg player comes out. Anne There is ONE Ogg player. It sucks Is proprietary. Read it in Maximum PC about 3 months back when I was on morphine...so my timeline may be pooched. Forgive me. :( I do remember that it sucks ... they gave it a 5 or 6 out of 10. Bleahplus it had issues of some sort I don't remember what else. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Recording Audio from Cassettes
As the subject implies, I am recording my old cassette tapes to make CDs. Some of them are nearing 22 years old and I don't want to lose them. I am using gramofile since I can't quite get audacity to record to harddrive. Now the question is, what's the best way to do this, do the record as a .wav and then burn as mp3s or record as mp3s and burn CDs as mp3s? I don't find any helpful guidelines as to what gives the best sound quality in the end. And is there a faster way to do the process than just play the tape and record? Fumbling in the dark here. TIA for any advice. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
